I've got a few stories about summers that lived at the office. Replete with unusual log in times at computers. Lat, any interest?

Is it worse that the practice of law is so bad you have to get this drunk and yet it is tolerated, if not expected? Or that you could get this drunk during an internship and yet still be so qualified that you get the offer for a permanent position?

"Shirtless" does not equal "nekkid." This doesn't seem very scandalous to me.

i think the fact he kept his pants on in the face of adversity (well humidity anyway) shows he has the mettle to make a fine attorney. Bravo, sir

No one cares about the kirkland bonuses. Not even Lat. If you want to know so bad, call them. give it up.

I agree, I Hate the Guy Who Hates Billy Merk. Nekkid is a term of art.

He must have been in Cleveland, where the light transit is called the "rapid"

He must have been in Cleveland, where the light transit is called the "rapid"

This stuff happens in Cleveland all the time. It's right up there with Hawaii and Italy as one of the world's premeire vacation destinations. No one wears a shirt on vacation.

11:51--Get over yourself, and if you're not interested in it, don't read it. You're probably interested in a lot of things no one else is interested in.

I don't even want to know the source of that photo . . .

For God's sake, Lemon, we'd all like to flee to the Cleve, and club up and down in the Flats, and have lunch with Little Richard. But, we fight those urges . . .

11:51, you are clearly correct. No one cares. Surely, those clerking or thinking about clerking don't care about such things or how one firm might affect the market for such bonuses. How could I have been so foolish to ask about them? Surely, not even I care that it might mean extra cash in my pocket.

Yes, I do care about many things that others do not find particularly interesting, but I know enough not to annoy people who don't care about them incessantly.

Lat is not your lapdog, if you want the information go get it yourself. He has already stated he is no longer giving updates on this issue because those who are interested act like whiny spoiled brats, and that it is of interest to very few people.

Pick up the phone and call them yourself, if they have raised I am sure they will be more than happy to tell you.

Furthermore, this post has NOTHING TO DO WITH CLERKING, which is why it is particularly annoying to hear about it.

12:04, love the sarcasm. The bonus market (be it for associates or incoming clerks) is also another possible indication of how the particular firm will react to market changes in the future. If it drags its feet with clerkship bonuses, it may indicate it will be slow to match other market increases as well. It is also important for those thinking about clerking or thinking about working after clerking these upcoming months--timing is key right now.

whoa, 11:51--someone is bitter. Should we remind you that you're the one who made this into a stink in the first place? Let it go, and let's get back to the subject of this post--which I agree doesn't seem that scandalous. Just sad and unprofessional.

hahaha...that's pretty special. naked or not, sleeping in your office when your office is a cube in the library is pretty darn stupid.

he'd have been better off crashing in a park or something.

summer 2001??? I just graduated HS. Is it possible to get something more recent?

why wouldn't he just sleep in one of the summers' offices?

Lat, would you be willing to start a thread for those of us who would like to discuss the Kirkland clerkship bonus? Then we can play in our own sandbox :)

I think the firms should not be surprised by this type of behavior when they are the ones centering every event on alcohol.

Creo que los bufetes no deben de sorprenderse de esta clase de comportamiento cuando son ellos que ponen el alcohol al centro de todas las actividades.

(I've decided just to do things in both english and spanish)

And Lat said he wouldn't call firms anymore soliciting information, but he still certainly posts based on knowledge from those he knows and forwarded memos.

Moreover, some of those interested acted like whiny brats, berating him for the information he did get --- not all. Most of us interested in the dough 411's appreciate the effort he puts in.

Lat, I think ATL plays an instrumental role in shaming firms to conform to the market. Please don't rest until Gibson and Latham (and some of the big and obvious absent "others") are on board.

Yes, we're whiny, yes, we're obsessed, but are people like us not 95% of your readership?

Someone with a K&E clerkship bonus offer in hand needs to EMAIL Lat about it. Then it would be confirmed and fair game for a post.

12:20, if you look at the first post in this series, you'll see that Lat is compiling a "greatest hits" list of summer associate stories.

Some of the SA stories on ATL are very current (like the Clifford Chance Lolita from a week ago). Others are not. It's all good.

This guy was clearly an idiot. First of all, he should have been able to find someone to give him a ride or some cash for a cab. But even if he found himself truly stranded, the play in such a situation is to hail a cab, and once you arrive at your destination you throw whatever you have at the cabby and run out the door yelling "sorry dude, I spent it all on booze." It's a shitty thing to do, but its better than sleeping on the street or going buck at the firm. If you're not comfortable with that, then take down his info and send his $ in the mail. Unfortunately for the cabby, he has no recourse but to accept such an offer. What is he going to do -- drive you back?

One year in a firm in Texas, we had a male summer who decided he would be able to work better if he simulated his law school study environment (he was working "late" one evening on one of those all-important memos--by this I mean like 6pm--late for a Texas summer associate). Unfortunately, his "law school study environment" consisted of him stripping down to his undershirt and boxers, hanging his pants on the doorknob so they wouldn't get wrinkled, and leaving his shoes outside his office door "because they stunk up his office." One of the firm's few female partners also happened to be working past six that day, and stumbled upon this scene.

Result: No offer. Don't know if it was because of this particular series of decisions.

Defense: In the summer's defense, the male associates who stumbled upon him pre-partner were egging him on.

12:22 -- umm.... maybe because he was drunk?

12:55 - The cabby could probably easily subdue your drunken a$$, call the cops, and have you charged with theft of services, making for an even better summer associate story. Otherwise, it sounds like a great idea.

1:30. Right. I'm sure the cabby is going to leap out of his cab, leave it unattended, and run after some dude, tackle him, then call the cops and wait around for them and answer their questions. Just cause he got ripped off $15.

1:46 - Don't you know any people that went on to be prosecutors? It happens. I'm not saying it happens 100% or even 45% or 25% of the time people try to beat fares, but it happens.

After the second day of the New York Bar Exam last summer, in Albany, I witnessed an examinee attempt to run away from his cab without paying the fare. The problem was that the examinee was dropped off at his hotel. So it wouldn't have been too hard to find him anyway. It was very funny to see a 300 lb cabbie running after the kid and having a tug-of-war with the glass door to the hotel. I'm not sure what eventually happened, but I was enjoying myself.

Why not just tell the cabbie to stop at an ATM and to run the meter while you are at the machine?

Once you flash your Desert Eagle you won't have to worry about him robbing you at the ATM. Or just tell him to take a swig of your 'shine while you get the cash to pay him.

Great story!

This is the kind of gossip we expect from ATL!

PS: I have several great sleeping in the office stories, including an associate whose wife through him out who tried to camp out on the sly. But he oversleep alter a bender and woke up on the library couch wearing nothing but gym shorts in the midst of a multi-party construction deposition.

My favorite story involved a young house counsel for a client—a billion dollar construction company. He lived out of town, and instead of going home one night he slept on the owners office couch. Now the founder of this company was a former Golden Gloves boxer and a very scary guy. (The rumor was he once punched out an IRS agent during an audit.) Anyhow the boss found out his couch has been slept on, calls the young lawyer into his office and says: “Get this couch the F*** out of my office, its no good to me now!” He made the poor guy carry it out to the street and take it home.

PPS: The lawyer in question still works there, years later.

What about the summer at Howrey bootcamp who didn't have the money for a cab, but took it anyways, didn't pay, and got arrested (or something likr that).

funny, i wonder how this would affect any offer from the firm anyways

The Howrey summer (from Chicago) went out one Saturday when he was staying at boot camp, got wasted, told the taxi driver that he would be right back with the cash and went into his room and passed out. The taxi driver knew his first name but unfortunately there were 2 people there with that name. So the cops were called and the poor guys who had the same name as the guy who took the cab was awoken by the cops and a Howrey partner at 4 am. The situation was straightened out and the driver got his money. On Sunday, when asked to explain himself, the summer told a partner that it was none of his business what he did on the weekends. The summer thought everything was okay but on Monday he was brought into the office, handed a plane ticket and told that the only reason he was not fired on Sunday was that they had to talk to their employment attorneys. He did not get an offer and his wife was not happy.