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I did not realize the De Barge cerw rolled so deep. A sniff of Yeyo and a beatdown. Who would have thought???? I still like them in a Sen. Craig kind of "not gay" way.

Nice comment on the El Debarge story, douchebag. Let's glorify domestice violence. Sure, why not, there's nothing wrong with beating up women. Get with the program, fools. Women deserve respect, and you all best recognize this and remove that offensive comment.

BTW: I'm Rick James, bitch.

The Sen. Craig "Tap Your Lofer 3-Times" if yo want me video (sucng to the 07's hit "Knock three Times" is SOOOOO funny!!!!!

Home run!

Texas just keeps on killing people?

I mean, we do, we have an express lane, but the story linked is about a man pardoned.

Hmmm...

Yeah, we didn't kill someone for once! Can't we get credit?

They should have killed him. The only way for these people to learn, is by slapping them with strong hand. Oh well, can't kill them all I guess.

I have a question about this Larry Craig thing. So suppose the other guy wasn't a cop, but was looking for bathroom sex - after Craig ran his hand under the stall, what happens? Does he crawl under the stall into the adjacent one? Or does he leave his stall and walk into the next one? And how do they decide who moves? Is it the one who initiates the encounter or the other one?

8:17,

Check out Slate's "Bathroom Sex FAQ," which should answer your question: http://www.slate.com/id/2173033/

8:17,

Check out Slate's "Bathroom Sex FAQ," which should answer your question: http://www.slate.com/id/2173033/

8:17,

Check out Slate's "Bathroom Sex FAQ," which should answer your question: http://www.slate.com/id/2173033/

Dear 8:17:

I had the same question, and a gay contributor to a prior Craig string on ATL suggested I Google “gay tearoom” so I did. This is an entrenched part of gay culture (apparently). I found this article. (Apparently they often go for it on the spot as it were.):

Tearoom History
by David Bianco

For over 100 years, police surveillance and sting operations have targeted public toilets - or "tearooms" - frequented by gay men in search of sex.
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Restroom facilities were probably first used for sex in the days before indoor plumbing. In crowded urban areas, where families and neighbors lived in close quarters and privacy was nonexistent, sex could take place unobserved in outhouses.
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By the late 19th century, many cities were overcrowded and had poor sanitation. For public health purposes, public restrooms were built in parks and near transportation facilities. Called "comfort stations," these restrooms dotted the landscape in cities from New York to Seattle. However, some men quickly began to use them for a different kind of comfort.
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AS EARLY AS 1896, THE PUBLIC FACILITIES IN MANHATTAN'S BATTERY PARK AND CITY HALL PARK WERE ASSOCIATED WITH HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY. The public men's room beneath Seattle's Pioneer Square was a popular cruising area by the first decades of the 20th century. During the 1930s, the Works Progress Administration (WPA) put the unemployed to work building hundreds of public restrooms in parks across the country, thus giving an inadvertent boost to tearoom activity.
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Though it's unclear when and where it originated, the slang term "tearoom" (that is, "t-room," which was short for "toilet-room") enabled men to discuss their public sexual encounters with each other in a coded way. Heterosexuals understood tearooms very differently, as genteel cafes where people enjoyed afternoon tea and pastries.
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One historian notes that, ironically, the use of public facilities for homosexual encounters gave men a measure of privacy. Sex in city parks was risky because it was out in the open. For many poor and working-class men, then, public restrooms doubled as private sexual space

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But tearooms were also frequented by other classes. The washrooms of New York's subway system were "(the) meeting place for everyone," as one man put it. A businessman on his way home to his wife and children in one of the outer boroughs could engage in quick sex at the end of the workday but still not identify as gay. From the very beginning, tearooms fell under police scrutiny. THE FIRST ARRESTS IN MANHATTAN OCCURRED SOON AFTER THE OPENING OF PUBLIC FACILITIES IN 1896. To circumvent arrest, one man would often remain outside the restroom as a lookout, warning those inside if a policeman was approaching. An arrest could ruin a man's life: When newspapers published the names and addresses of those arrested, men lost families, jobs, and housing.
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More intricate surveillance techniques soon came into use. In 1920 in Boise, the men's room at one downtown building, the Boise Valley Traction Company, was a popular tearoom. During the summer of that year, the management hired one of its employees to spy through a hole in the men's room ceiling. His surveillance resulted in the arrest and conviction of two men, who were sentenced to five years each in the Idaho State Prison.
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Entrapment was another method for policing tearoom sex. As early as the 1910s in New York, plainclothes officers entered park toilets and subway washrooms, pretending to be cruising for sex. In some cases, police decoys blackmailed men for hush money. In the early 1960s, a man in St. Louis admitted that he had made eight such payoffs to undercover cops, ranging in amount from $60 to $300 each, in order to avoid arrest.

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ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS TEAROOM ARRESTS IN U.S. HISTORY TOOK PLACE IN OCTOBER 1964. THAT MONTH, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA'S VICE SQUAD BEGAN CONDUCTING SURVEILLANCE OF THE BASEMENT RESTROOM OF THE YMCA ON G STREET, JUST TWO BLOCKS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. SPYING THROUGH PEEPHOLES IN THE LOCKED DOOR OF AN UNUSED SHOWER ROOM, POLICE OFFICERS CAUGHT TWO MEN IN FLAGRANTE DELICTO. THE ARREST, HOWEVER, PROVED TO BE FAR FROM ROUTINE: ONE OF THE MEN WAS WALTER JENKINS, CHIEF OF STAFF TO PRESIDENT LYNDON B. JOHNSON.

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When the scandal broke, Johnson made televised remarks saying he was as shocked as if his wife Lady Bird had murdered one of their daughters. Jenkins resigned, and Johnson - acting on the commonly held belief that gay men were national security risks - ordered the FBI to conduct a full investigation of Jenkins's activities while in office. The 100-page "Report on Walter Wilson Jenkins," released at the end of October, concluded that the former chief of staff had never "compromised the security or interests of the United States."

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Despite the risks, tearoom activity has continued to the present. In a much-publicized incident in April 1998, singer-songwriter George Michael was arrested for "misdemeanor lewd conduct" in the public men's room of Will Rogers Memorial Park in Beverly Hills when, according to his account, a handsome plainclothes police officer entrapped him.

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"You don't see it as a massive risk," Michael later explained, "if there's no one else around, and if there's someone ... waving their genitals around in front of you." Michael received a small fine and performed 80 hours of community service. His arrest, he said, brought him "into the political arena," forcing him out of the closet and compelling him to speak out against the kind of police entrapment that for decades has faced gay men seeking tearoom sex.

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For Further Reading:

Edelman, Lee. "Tearooms and Sympathy, or, The Epistemology of the Water Closet," in The Lesbian and Gay Studies Reader, ed. Henry Abelove, Michele Aina Barale, and David M. Halperin (Routledge, 1993).

Humphreys, Laud. Tearoom Trade: Impersonal Sex in Public Places (Aldine Publishing Co., 1970).

Leap, William, ed. Public Sex/Gay Space (Columbia University Press, 1999).

Also check out Slate's "Bathroom Sex FAQ," http://www.slate.com/id/2173033/

Let your soul glo!

"Let your soul glo!"

Hey man, thanks for the plug!

Thanks 9:20 - definitely an interesting article - but it still doesn't answer my question - would he have crawled under the stall?

This posting DeBarge's picture is ATL's subtle way of keeping the story on Nixon Peabody's non-theme song alive.

Ow... Yeah yeah, yeah.

Nifong is an angel compared to the felony conduct of the prosecutor described in the below Court brief.
-- scott huminski

http://prosecutorialmisconduct.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html

8:17/10:16,

Take a look at Slate's "Bathroom Sex FAQ," which should answer all your questions.

"If the participants were in the last stall in a long row, they might have enough privacy to get it on right there beneath the divider. Alternatively, one person can enter the other's stall by surreptitiously ducking out and back. Positions vary depending on the space, but one classic setup has one man sit on the toilet while the other straddles his legs and receives oral sex. (In the 1970s, some men frequenting the popular bathrooms at Bloomingdale's in New York would hide their legs by standing in a pair of shopping bags.)"

Sorry, forgot the link: http://www.slate.com/id/2173033/

Gay dudes are disgusting. That's all.

The shopping bags are a great idea!