Fall Recruiting Snafu Watch: You Know They Really Don’t Want You When…
Getting rejected by a law firm and having lots of your classmates learn about it: embarrassing.
Getting rejected by a firm you didn’t even apply to: priceless.
I’m afraid I must reject your rejection [TJ’s Double Play]
Earlier: Public Humiliation, Courtesy of Your Friends at Wilson Sonsini




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NOT FIRST DAMN DAMN DAMN!!1!
UVa Law kid is a dipshit - no class the missent letter was a NNR or at least without middle school sarcasm.
I also got rejected by firms that I didn't interview iwth maybe it is somethign with UVA?
Miss Manners,
He deserved his fun, and his sarcasm was at least 11th grade-worthy. May a thousand pigeons poop on your self-righteous head.
Cheers,
M
Just got the following email? Never got a "we're still considering you letter." Anyone have any thoughts on it?
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Thank you for the opportunity to meet with you on campus at [law school] and for your interest in obtaining a position with [biglaw firm]. While we are not in a position to make a decision regarding your return to the firm for a callback interview at this time, your application remains under serious consideration, and we hope to be in a position to provide a final decision with respect to your application in the near future.
Please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any questions regarding this correspondence.
After an interview, I was rejected twice by the same firm. First by e-mail, and a week later by letter from the same partner. I got the hint.
UVA Law really is the coolest law school in the country. The rest of you all just suck.
A K LLP is Andrews Kurth?
UVA. What a joke.
3:05 - spoken like someone who couldn't get into UVA. Or, if you could, realized quickly that you are not cool enough to come here.
I got a rejection letter from White and Case thanking me for the interview. I cancelled it about two before. I liked getting the mail though.
One firm e-mailed me a scan of the rejection letter they were sending me, then express mailed the rejection letter. I was honored that they could not wait to reject me.
I got:
1. Someone else's rejection letter; and
2. A rejection letter from a firm I had already turned down.
Beat that.
The Andrews Kurth thing is hilarious. The same thing happened to me last year when I missed the interview because I had a funeral. Somebody took my place, but I received a rejection just the same. Curious if my replacement interview received a rejection or not...
3:15, ditto re receiving someone else's rejection letter.
Thank you for the opportunity to meet with you on campus at [law school] and for your interest in obtaining a position with [biglaw firm]. While we are not in a position to make a decision regarding your return to the firm for a callback interview at this time, your application remains under serious consideration, and we hope to be in a position to provide a final decision with respect to your application in the near future.
Please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any questions regarding this correspondence.
This means that they are afraid that the prospects will be slim and as a least resort they may consider bringing your lame ass back in out of necessity.
I second 3:05.
Maybe the firm sent preemptive rejection letters to all UVA students because, well, it's UVA.
UVA to TTT... where it belongs.
The Andrews Kurth thing is hilarious. The same thing happened to me last year when I missed the interview because I had a funeral. Somebody took my place, but I received a rejection just the same. Curious if my replacement interview received a rejection or not...
The Andrews Kurth thing is hilarious. The same thing happened to me last year when I missed the interview because I had a funeral. Somebody took my place, but I received a rejection just the same. Curious if my replacement interview received a rejection or not...
I got a letter thanking me for considering their firm after I cancelled the callback.
This is a common made-up joke / urban myth. Maybe this happened to someone once, a long time ago, in a law school far far away, but the "never interviewed rejection" story came up at least once every year around fall recruiting at my law school. Never did the story teller ever show anyone the alleged "rejection letter" (this was in the days before mass email rejections). I can only assume its much easier to spin such yarns now that rejection letters are (apparently) being sent by mass email.
Chalk this up to one getting pulled over on Above the Law. Probably sometime in the future we'll get a lawsuit of the day about the estate of someone suing an internet cafe "because the person was at the cafe for days playing video games until he died from exhaustion."
Also, if the UVA law student was going to steal an idea ( see http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/rejection.asp ), they should have at least made it a little more funny.
Hey, I don't know if this tops it all off, but..
Some firm in NY I've never heard of/never interviewed with KEEPS sending me letters "congratulating" not me, but random OTHER people hired by the firm.
The letters are addressed in my name, but the names of the people hired are clearly not. Repeat: I never OCI'd/applied to this firm, nor ever heard of it.
I wonder if this firm is trying to just rub in their hirings to people who didn't interview with it. Jerks.
This is a common made-up joke / urban myth. Maybe this happened to someone once, a long time ago, in a law school far far away, but the "never interviewed rejection" story came up at least once every year around fall recruiting at my law school. Never did the story teller ever show anyone the alleged "rejection letter" (this was in the days before mass email rejections). I can only assume its much easier to spin such yarns now that rejection letters are (apparently) being sent by mass email.
Chalk this up to one getting pulled over on Above the Law. Probably sometime in the future we'll get a lawsuit of the day about the estate of someone suing an internet cafe "because the person was at the cafe for days playing video games until he died from exhaustion."
Also, if the UVA law student was going to steal an idea ( see http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/rejection.asp ), they should have at least made it a little more funny.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/09/17/internet.death.ap/
I agree with 3:05 - UVa IS a joke. I mean, I blew off three years of my life drinking cheap beer, hanging out in a great college town (with some of the world's hottest undergrads, btw) and generally having a fantastic time. And then some big firm, for no apparent reason, hired me and has now for five years continued to pay me a fabulous salary for doing work that they had to train me to do. It's a huge joke (and I'm still laughing).
3:26 - I can show you the letter, although I do feel less clever after reading the Snopes article.
It happens because UVA prescreens so firms end up with resumes of people they never met and use the standard form letter that mentions our "talks."
I agree with 3:05 - UVa IS a joke. I mean, I blew off three years of my life drinking cheap beer, hanging out in a great college town (with some of the world's hottest undergrads, btw) and generally having a fantastic time. And then some big firm, for no apparent reason, hired me and has now for five years continued to pay me a fabulous salary for doing work that they had to train me to do. It's a huge joke (and I'm still laughing).
Well said 3:41!
3:26, it's not an urban myth. The same thing happened to me as a 2L at HLS. I received a rejection letter from Boies Schiller, with whom I had never interviewed.
3:41 - You didn't apply to Yale because you couldn't get in.
UVA is a cesspool for southern hick waste and JAPs. I visited it on my tour of "Schools with Girls Who I Want To Fuck, But Where I Know I Won't Meet Anyone to Have an Intelligent Conversation With." I fucked a few and then went on to other shitty schools throughout the south.
In retrospect, I shouldn't have worn a condom. Maybe then some intelligent genes would have entered the gene pool down there.
3:54 = Regent University Law School 1L.
I received a nice rejection letter recently from a firm that I did interview with.
This one used the personal touch of having the letter sent/signed by the partner that interviewed me.
The letter also opened with a gender-incorrect salutation.
tj's letter has a typo. now who's the dumbass?
Troll, you have to try harder than that. We both know you went to neither Yale nor UVA, and couldn't get into either. (And I doubt you could get into girls from either school while we're on the subject.) I think your tour would be more aptly named "Schools With Girls Who I Really Wanted to Fuck, But Have No Shot With." Southern Belles don't do TTT, nor New York / northern boy pretentious douchebags.
4:13 is correct. They only do southern frat boy pretentious douchebags.
Oh, 3:54. Not everybody has to be the top gunner in every crazy ladder-climbing competition. Now, I don't really mind the "hick" crack. I grew up in the (moderately) deep south and left it for a reason. But I honestly found C-ville to be a more cosmopolitan, intellectual and enjoyable place than any place I've lived before or since. I'm sure New Haven is a much nicer (place to buy crack) though.
If there were just one good law firm in that little town I'd be working there today.
3:54,
Would you please go back to Autoadmit?
Thanks
3:54 --
You had sex with girls from a "cesspool for southern hick waste?" Wearing a condom was probably a good idea.
The Bingham internet add on the WSJ law blog with the picture of the bear and the baby is creepy. It makes me want to stay away from Bingham, not hire them.
4:24:
"Normally I wear protection. But I figured, when am I ever going to make it back to Haiti?"
During a fly-back interview, a UVA student made a remark about not wanting to work at a "Jew" firm and about female lawyers not being dedicated to work or their families, thereby failing both. He said he was interviewing with us because we are a "southern law firm that would share his values."
The hiring partner sent his rejection letter over-night because he wanted it to be waiting for the interviewee when he got home the next day. It was probably the best $20 the firm spent that year.
What are the odds that three people missed interviews because of a funeral? Weird.
Gibson Dunn sent me a rejection letter last year despite the fact that I never interviewed with them, (and I didn't even sign up for an interview).
4:55: Wow. Just, wow.
For what it's worth, the only person I've ever heard use the "n" word as a slur in casual conversation went to UVA. I'm from a white, blue-collar town in New England. Go figure.
Let me guess Mr./Ms TJ ain't going to a V-1o firm.
Urban myth this is not, sir.
I also got a rejection letter from a firm I never interviewed with. I was preselected for an interview (like UVA) but cancelled before the interview took place.
I would imagine that it's fairly common since firms likely take all the resumes of people that they are not interested in and shoot them all form letters. When you cancel an interview, the firm is probably going to put your resume in the pile with the rest of the rejections since no interview=no callback.
I once saw a Harvard student kill a black jewish gypsy from Darfur with a flaming cross and eat his flesh as part of a satanic ritual. My firm sent him a firm but polite rejection letter.
A rejection letter once arrived in my mailbox the day after my interivew. Thing was, my interview ended after the post office closed, meaning that they sent me my rejection while I was still interviewing!!
He hadn't applied to us and may not have been a law student, we just wanted to make a statement. Fucking Harvard students. I bet they're all like that.
I got one from Heller Ehrman without interviewing. I just threw it away and thought nothing of it, might as well not burn bridges for no reason.
Hmm. I never heard any untoward comments at UVa, although we did have Big Jim's pork BBQ at every function, which I guess might have been awkward for the six jewish students. I remember talking to the dean once about the lack of diversity. His reply was that every minority they tried to recruit ended up at Columbia. I think it's a problem but I don't think it's caused by racism on the part of the current students. There is, you know, a little hesitation by minorities to come to a small southern town for three years, especially when the law school is, as things stand, so waspy. (I.e., I think minorities don't come because they aren't there now, which is hard to get past.)
That said, I'd kill for a Big Jim's pork sandwich right now.
What is it about UVa and recruiting snafus? I recount two from the 1980s here:
http://www.businessassociationsblog.com/lawandbusiness/comments/law_firm_recruiting_snafus/
A rejection letter once arrived in my mailbox the day after my interivew. Thing was, my interview ended after the post office closed, meaning that they sent me my rejection while I was still interviewing!!
6:14--
If you're in NY, there are same day express mail options so it might not be what you think. Otherwise, OUCH! My sympathies either way.
Sadly, I summered at a firm where the guy from 4:55 would have fit right in...
I had multiple friends at UVA rejected by firms where they never interviewed, merely because of the screening process that we use. I also got three rejection letters from one firm addressed to "Mr. ___".
I love Big Jim's.
UVA is a bunch of inbred racists. The ignorance there is as stifling as at Regent University, only UVA doesn't have the excuse of religious conviction.
Come on now - does Regents even HAVE a softball team?
Actually the current 1L class is only 17% inbred racist. I googled it.
im sure all those minorities that didn't go to uva are happy that they went to pc columbia where the students still think it's okay to hang nooses in front of african american prof's offices. personally, ive always liked ny, but i don't think that i could live there with all the backwards ass people and blantant racism.
im sure all those minorities that didn't go to uva are happy that they went to pc columbia where the students still think it's okay to hang nooses in front of african american prof's offices. personally, ive always liked ny, but i don't think that i could live there with all the backwards ass people and blatant racism.
Racism in C'ville? - at least the cops don't use broomstick - Louima 1999. It's everywhere and anyone thinking otherwise is an idiot. Don't be so smug, it shows your stupidity.
I got 2 rejection letters from the same firm, about 2 weeks apart. I think one was the result of OCI and the other from a diversity-type job fair. At least they had to spend 82 cents instead of just 41 to tell me to go fuck myself.
I'm surprised that the UVA Career Services Office hasn't caught wind of this letter and gone after TJ. Also, his typo really doesn't help his cause.
UVA back to irrelevance.
Oh wait... UVA was never relevant? Sorry, I forgot.
I sent a "rejection rejection" to a shop I was desperate to join in DC.
It went something like:
"Though your rejection was of the highest quality, I'm sorry that I will have to reject your rejection. I will be reporting to the office on x date, please have an office ready."
I wanted the job, and in my tortured, newly-minted, lawyer larvae mind, I thought sending the rejection would make them think I was really interested and likely to be worth another look. I'm sure they put it in the "psycho" bin, because they sent me a letter warning me not to show up. Still, after working at another (probably better) shop for a few years, I ran across the interview partner again in a meeting at OMB. We laughed about my rejection rejection, and he still had it. Later, I sold his clients down the river in the rulemaking.
Wait, maybe I actually AM psycho...
It's all true, UVA is a shitty and irrelevant law school. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to drink and golf all weekend (looks like it will be sunny and 78 tomorrow) while offers from great firms continue to fall into my lap.
You guys enjoy working on your outlines for exams, maybe if you try hard enough you'll get into a V10!!!
This type of stuff can happen I imagine. Today I got a rejection letter from Hogan & Hartson. Only problem was that I never applied for or interviewed for a summer associate position with them.
I called them up to let them know, and in their defense they did apologize for the unsolicited rejection.
10:01 - Is career services like the justice department now?
As a 3L, I signed up for OCI before I knew whether I had an offer at my summer firm (we had to sign up by the end of July). I got an offer and career services canceled my bids.
A week ago I got a scanned email rejection letter stating that a particular person really enjoyed meeting me, and how great I was, and so forth, but their office was really small and they just couldn't extend me an offer at this time.
I think it's one thing to send a rejection letter to someone who had initially signed up to interview but canceled it. But if you're going to try to be personal about it at all (state who the person who "met" you was), at least figure out if the person did meet someone or not. I wrote them back and told them that I hadn't interviewed with them, and not that I was offended in any way, but merely that maybe they should look into fixing that snafu for the future. I immediately got a personal email from the recruiting director apologizing profusely. So whatev... it was mostly just really funny to me.
A thousand pigeons? That's a lot of poop.