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Go Ahead, Bro — Tase Me

The headlines say it all, over at the Drudge Report:

dont tase me bro Drudge Report Above the Law blog.jpg

We previously wrote about the incident here. The report exonerating the officers is not flattering to the tased bro, Andrew Meyer:

In the 17-page summary of the report, FDLE said it spoke with several witnesses who said that days before the event Meyer vowed to put on ”a show” at the Kerry event.

According to the report, during a Sept. 11 Gators for Rudy [Giuliani] rally, Meyer got into an argument with another student and told a friend that “if he liked what he had seen that he should go to the Kerry speech and he would really see a show.”

In addition, the report said that after his arrest, when Meyer was out of view of the cameras, he told officers that they did not do anything wrong and then asked “if cameras will be at the jail.”

UF police cleared in ‘Don’t Tase me, Bro’ case [Miami Herald]
President Machen comments on FDLE review of student arrest [University of Florida]
Andrew Meyer [official website]

Earlier: Sadly, John Kerry Wasn’t Tasered (But He Could Have Used the Electricity)

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1 Posted by anon | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:20 PM

first bro!

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2 Posted by first to say it | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:33 PM

First to say "Don't taze me, bro, don't taze me."

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3 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:43 PM

That guy was a douche and got what he deserved.

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4 Posted by GM | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:46 PM

Matt Drudge and Larry Craig to 69

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5 Posted by peppo | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:49 PM

I wonder in what kind of friggin religion this guy is majoring in?????

"Gwen Kaster, a UF religion major, agreed.

''They should have beat him with some batons while they were at it,'' Kaster said."

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6 Posted by to 3:49 | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:50 PM

Catholic for sure

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7 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:57 PM

Sounds like a muslim.

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8 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:00 PM

Why do any of these statements he made matter?! Doesn't the first amendment protect the right to put on a "show", within limits. Maybe he exceeded those limits, but the fact that he went there intending to put on a "show" is irrelevant to whether the tasering was proper. Give me a break, U of M rent-a- cops. Campus police = the police equivalent of "if you can't do, teach." If you can't be a real cop, be a campus cop.

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9 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:05 PM

So if you're a dick, the police can use excessive force, if your being a dick, in no way puts the officers in harm's way.

God bless America!

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10 Posted by Stooge Fan | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:06 PM

@4:00 - How do you figure? They have to go through the same training and are held to the same standard as the local police. At some colleges, they even share patrol routes and assist in law enforcement actions if their jurisdictions overlap. We're not talking security guards here, we're talking campus police.

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11 Posted by 4:00 | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:11 PM

I'm hyperbolizing, I admit. The vast majority of them are great cops and public servants. But incidents like these, where they use force that was way in excess of what was really necessary show that some of them are not suited for the power they are given. There are some serious ass clown campus police. Sorry to say it, but its true.

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12 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:13 PM

I don't see how the facts the report cites matter at all. So he was putting on a show, that doesn't justify being tasered. You have to ask, rather, was the force necessary, or could five police officers take down some punky kid?

The fact that he was putting on a show also implies that his resisting arrest was also a show, and therefore posed no actual danger to the officers.

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13 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:15 PM

Good to hear. The force was not excessive under the circumstances. The guy was physically violent with police and refused to stop acting violent even after repeated warnings about the taser.

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14 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:17 PM

4:05 - Its about resisting arrest. This guy was making a scene and disturbing the peace. When the police tried to peacefully escort him out of the room (sans arrest), he continued making a disturbance and flailed around, resisting the arrest which became warranted when he escalated his display. Have you seen the video? How is this excessive force? Someone who should have been arrested was resisting arrest, thereby requiring the police to get him under control to make such proper arrest. The alternative would have been to throw him to the ground... which risks breaking a bone or two. An ass like this shouldn't be allowed to avoid a rightful arrest by screaming and flailing around.

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15 Posted by anon | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:23 PM

I really really hope that this guy goes down in the annals of timeless douchebaggery, as a lesson to other prospective douchebags. Unfortunately, he got the notoriety that he wanted and this will probably just empower him to reach ever-higher toward douchebag supremacy.

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16 Posted by 4:00 & 4:11 | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:26 PM

There is no disagreement that this guy is a douche for the ages. But that doesn't mean he should have been tasered. Tasering is not a weapon of first choice by police: they should use other methods first and didn't even try them here. This was crap.

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17 Posted by 405 | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:28 PM

Er, I think it's you that needs to watch the video again.

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18 Posted by Mee | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:29 PM

The point is that because he was putting on "a show," he was not going to stop fighting back, making force necessary. As importantly, his yelping and whining was all part of the show, meaning he wasn't actually being harmed by the police action... which reasonably indicates that the force was not excessive.

Sorry, people -- you're gonna have to find another poster bro for your police brutality crusade...

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19 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:35 PM

Mee is the douchebag here. There is no crusade. Your stupid argument makes our point for us: if he was just yelping and whining, that makes it reasonable? Nice argument.

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20 Posted by Oatmeal | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:39 PM

I'm always in favor of tasering d-bags. It's unamerican to think otherwise.

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21 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:44 PM

weapon of FIRST choice? they tried to walk him out on his own two feet without even touching him first. He refused. They tried walking him out holding his arms rather loosely. He resisted. They tried gripping more tightly. He broke free and flailed. Only then did they wrestle with him. And had he not resisted even after they got him on the ground, they would have cuffed him without the Taser. He continued to resist, ignored the warning that he was about to be Tasered, and they Tasered him. A remarkably calm, measured escalation of "Ask, demand, then force" if you ask me. The d-bag does NOT have a first amendment right to shout and disrupt any meeting. He's lucky they had a Taser, as had they not, he would have gotten pepper spray to the face or a baton to the groin. And he would have earned it.

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22 Posted by Mee | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:48 PM

No.... they followed procedure to get him to stop, and he didn't.

His unrelenting resistence means using force was justified.

The fact that his yelping was phony means the force wasn't excessive, because he wasn't being harmed at the time (and presumably he has no lasting injuries from the police force).

No harm, no foul. Understand?

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23 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:56 PM

3:49
Look at her Facebook profile photo. She should be majoring in Muslim. That way she could wear hijab (towels) and cover her face.

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24 Posted by Anonymouse | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:08 PM

Ummm, but you can't legally arrest someone for speaking in an obnoxious fashion. The arrest was illegal. Asking him to leave was illegal. Tasering him in the context of an unlawful arrest--lemme hear ya say it--illegal!

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25 Posted by Anonimis | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:56 PM

5:08 -- ummm, if you really believe that then you, ummm, failed con law.

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26 Posted by Anonymouse | Permalink Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:15 PM

Responding to Anonimis--You really should look into First Amendment precedent (and FL state law regarding the fact that you can resist an unlawful arrest) before you start throwing down about my grades. Heck, think about basic criminal procedure--to make an arrest, officers need probable cause that a crime was committed. After you identify the crime (breaching the peace, inciting a riot, resisting arrest), and if you determine that there was PC to arrest him for one of those offenses, you determine whether the application of those statutes in this context runs afoul of the First Amendment.

Short answer--it does.

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27 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, October 26, 2007 7:44 AM

John Kerry called on him to ask a question. He made a speech for two minutes. Was he annoying? Yes. Was it disorderly conduct? Absolutely not.

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28 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, October 26, 2007 8:29 AM

John Kerry still gets asked to give speeches? Whoever invited him to UF should be tased.

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29 Posted by Anonimis | Permalink Friday, October 26, 2007 10:17 AM

6:15 -- I'm gonna place a safe bet that under FL law, asking someone who is disrupting a meeting / public event to stop is legal, escorting them out when they refuse is legal, and arresting them when they fight back is legal. The cops didn't just go arrest him because he was speaking.

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30 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, October 26, 2007 1:31 PM

7:44 - Get the facts straight... he was not called on to ask a question. Another student was called on and it was declared that it would be the last question. At which point this d-bag commandeered the mic and began his arrest-justifying tirade and resistance to arrest.

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31 Posted by Anonymouse | Permalink Friday, October 26, 2007 3:52 PM

Anonimis--Doubtful, if someone is engaging in political speech, throwing them out/arresting them for shouting is probably a real first amendment non-starter.

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