Regentgate: ATL's Exclusive Interview with Adam Key (Part 2 of 2)
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We're now pleased to bring the second half of our interview with Adam Key, the Regent Law School second-year student who has found himself in a bit of hot water. Background on the controversy, a free-speech dispute between Key and the Regent administration, is available here and here.
The first part of our interview with Adam Key is accessible here. The balance of the interview -- in which Adam Key reveals his professional wrestling nickname, talks about his new book, and discusses his Regent sister, Monica Goodling -- appears after the jump.
What kind of response have you received from the Regent community other than the administration – e.g., fellow students, faculty members?
A lot of students have expressed support for what I'm doing, and a handful have expressed disgust. The ones who support me, however, are fearful to publicly speak out because they have seen what Regent does to dissenting voices. Remarkably, the most support I've received have come from 1Ls, many who have expressed a strong desire to transfer because of this. I've also received a massive outpouring of support on Facebook itself, both from Regent students and non-Regent students alike. The kind students at Washington & Lee School of Law have started a Facebook group to support my cause.
What about professors of yours – have they said anything (positive or negative)?
The friends I have on the faculty are privately supportive, but publicly silent. Even tenured professors can be fired at a whim by Pat, or so I've been told by faculty.
What do you say to people who say you're just doing this for attention, that it's a publicity stunt?
I'm in my second year of law school. Do you really think I would spend thousands of dollars and go through an entire year of law school just to pull a stunt? That's pretty ridiculous. Honestly, I didn't start this whole thing. I put a picture on my Facebook as a joke, Regent came after me. The more they've pressed, the more public it became. They did this to themselves.
Where did this talk about you having a gun come from? I believe you were quoted in the Virginian-Pilot article as saying you don't own a gun. Did this just come out of the blue?
The firearm allegation is a complete fabrication engineered by the Regent administration. I don't know if a student lied or they just made it up but I do not own or carry a firearm, nor have I ever. While I fully support the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms, it is a right that I, personally, do not exercise. The whole thing is an attempt to exploit the fear of school shooting after the Virginia Tech incident just as people like John Ashcroft (incidentally a Regent prof as well) have used fear of terrorism after 9/11 to infringe on our essential liberties.
You mentioned you don't regret going to Regent. So I assume you're not interested in transferring?
I am definitely open to the possibility of transferring. If any university would like to help me escape from this free speech hating zone, I would definitely appreciate it. However, I like to finish things I start and therefore would also consider staying at Regent.
Looking ahead, what do you want to do after graduation? What are your goals for your legal career? Do you know where you'll be for your 2L summer? Where were you last summer?
Honestly, I'm not quite sure where I'll be for my 2L summer. Last summer, I worked very briefly at Fairchild, Price, Thomas & Haley in Nacogdoches, TX but left shortly to publish my book.
And what about longer term? When you went to law school, did you have a clear idea of what you wanted to do with your degree?
I went to law school because I wanted to learn to defend the Constitution. Every day, it seems our freedoms are eroding in this country in the name of political correctness and national security. I wanted to help preserve our essential liberties and defend those who needed it most. I plan to, at least for a time, be a public defender.
Interesting. So has this episode reinforced your views?
Definitely. Whether it's by Pat Robertson or the U.S. government, our freedoms are definitely still in danger.
Okay, to shift gears, into lighter territory... Did it hurt getting all those tattoos?
Haha… Anyone who tells you that tattoos don't hurt is a liar.
Did you get them all at once, or in stages?
Most of the work has been done over the last 6 months. The majority of my tattoos were done by Mike Dolese of Southside Tattoo in Nacogdoches, TX.
Oh, so they're recent -- interesting. Funny that you got them while at Regent! You're definitely not the stereotypical Regent student.
And proud of it.
Speaking of which, it seems that so much of the public's view of Regent has been colored by Monica Goodling. What do you think of her?
I don't know her, personally. I think Gonzalez owes her an apology for that whole mess.
Tell us more about your book. What's the title? How has it been received? How is it selling?
The book is "Your Best Lie Now: The Gospel According to Joel Osteen." It's a critique of Joel Osteen, the pastor of America's largest and fastest growing church. Basically, it compares what he preaches to what the Bible says and finds that the two are totally different. It's actually available for free online (I couldn't find a publisher willing to take on Joel) and in book form for the cost of production.
Actually, since you have a book out -- have people accused you of doing this to publicize the book?
As far as accusations that I'm trying to use this to promote my book, I already reached my target audience: Joel's congregation. In August, I set up outside Lakewood and gave away copies of my book while preaching the Gospel. I put a clip of that on YouTube. Publicizing the book is not my concern as I'm not making a dime off of it.
Is it true that you were once a pro wrestler? If so, what was that like? How many wrestlers do you think have gone to law school?
Yes, I was a professional wrestler. I started training with Tugboat Taylor in Houston when I was 16 and started matches when I was 17. I was sidelined due to heavy injuries from a car wreck and have only recently started training in the ring again. At this point, I'm considering making a comeback (especially since I have a lot more time to train now that I don't have classes). Honestly, I don't know of any other wrestlers in law school.
Wow, that's wild! Did you have a nickname?
I wrestled under several different names, but my current character is the Freedom Fighter, kind of reality based, haha. And I'm pretty sure I could take Monica Goodling in a cage match, despite claims to the opposite.
HA! Thanks so much for your time. Any concluding thoughts, things you'd like to add, parting words for readers?
Never be afraid to take a stand for what you believe in. You may lose and you will most definitely be criticized (sometimes by people with blogs), but no one has ever made a difference without standing up.
Earlier: Regentgate: ATL's Exclusive Interview with Adam Key (Part 1 of 2)
Regent Law School in the News Once Again
Regent Revisited: Tattooed Dude Suspended Pending Psychiatric Evaluation

First.
Hey Lat - why don't you try to score an interview with AK's ex-roommate? it will be legal version of the hills. This could be great. Lets hear both sides of the story.
I'm so happy Lo is back on the show, it was sad w/o her.
does anyone else like Heidi? I really like her. I want her and Lauren to be friends again.
This interview is so hilarious on so many levels. And it shows why the T4 should just drop off the face of the earth. "Couldn't find a publisher to take on Joel"... yeah, probably has nothing to do with your incoherence and poor writing. "They did this to themselves"... yeah, they put the picture of Robertsom up. "fired at a whim by Pat"... classy and respectful. "free speech hating zone"... I think we can leave it at that.
he's not a professional wrestlyer, but there is a 3L at Minnesota who is a UFC fighter.
Ok, it's obvious this is all a publicity stunt, as this guy's whole life is a publicity stunt.
i wrestled a bear once
There may not be other wrestlers in law school, but that's because wrestling's fake and it sucks. Nick "The Goat" Thompson does MMA while going to the University of Minnesota Law School, and I'd take him over Mr. Key any day of the week.
OK, well I read about 20 pages of this kid's book and I have to say that it is pretty much what I would have expected.
Joel Osteen = bad guy because he teaches that God wants you to be rich and happy. This is because the true church is the "persecuted church" (like those in China). Oh, but just in case you were wondering, its ok if you were rich to start--you just can't get rich as a Christian.
In short, what I read indicates that the book is yet another echo of his whole appearance, buck-the-system behavior, and wrestlerhood. You have to be outside the system in order to be cool, right or righteous.
I won't go into any more real detail but, while I agree that Osteen is rather slim on substance in his Christian messages, they aren't sending people to hell and he certainly is not a false prophet. You can be rich and Godly whether you started as either or not.
Finally, all that being said, I do think that Regent is a TTT, and acting completely out of line. Did Key invite it? Perhaps not even consciously, but yes, I think he definitely is enjoying it one way or another. It all fits too well into his outsider, pain and suffering is the way to the truth mentality.
4:09, can I visit you in Rich Man's Heaven?
I, too, skimmed over Mr. Key's charitably-termed "book," which manages to hit 90 pages the way most people pad 10 pages to meet the requirements of a paper in high school. I was soundly unimpressed, particularly with the run-on sentence motif. I was actually rather appalled by one bit in particular where Mr. Key excerpted Larry King interviewing Joel Osteen. Mr. Osteen is quoted as not having heard a particular Eastern saying about taking each day as a gift, but he responds to Mr. King's inquiry by saying he agrees with the sentiment of appreciating each day. Mr. Osteen goes on to agree with the principles of charity espoused in the Talmud. Mr. Key's response includes this astounding bit of vitriol:
"Osteen demonstrates here that he has profaned the Holy things of the Lord. He has put no difference between the holy and the profane, Christian faith and Eastern philosophy, the unclean and the clean, the Talmud and the Bible. There is a difference between Christianity and every other religion, whether Osteen wants to admit it or not. It’s not just about loving any god, it’s about loving our God above any other and submitting ourselves to His perfect Will."
Zealot, much? Mr. Key's position seems to be that Christians should not even agree with other religions, and his implications that Eastern philosophy and the Talmud are "unclean" and "profane" just speak for themselves. My support for this fellow has diminished to nothing, as I think Regent and Mr. Key have just become mired in each other's spite and mediocrity.
4:09 and 4:48, thank you for doing the work that I didn't want to do.
A dig on John Ashcroft. Meh. Predictable. Getting kicked out of Regent is not like being sent to Gitmo. Attending Regent is like being sent to Gitmo.
He sounds like Pope Benedict. Does the Pope also wrestle?
4:59, your welcome. I also noticed 4:48's point as well but forgot it writing and wholeheartedly agree.
5:14,
I disagree. The Pope would disagree wholeheartedly with AK as quoted by 4:48. He often calls for dialogue between religions and recognition of their common grounds.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/11/28/turkey.pope/index.html
A UFC cage fighter graduated from Vanderbilt Law School last year. He was also recently investigated by the FDA for selling "supplements"....
Lat,
Do an interview of Nick "the goat," the 3L UFC fighter at the U of Minn Law School. Now that's the real deal. His answer to question 1 confirms that he's in law school while fighting.
http://www.mmafighting.com/gettingtoknow/nick_thompson.html
Where does this guy get off? He's supposed to be defending free speech, but he attacks this Joel Osteen guy for exercising his right to free speech. I guess free speech is only okay if Adam Key is the one who's speaking. I initially supported this guy, but now, I formally withdraw any and all support.
5:53 - The Pope's conception of dialogue is a lot like Frank Kush's conception of dialogue. For those who don't remember, or never knew, Kush was a journeyman football coach from years ago who made famous the expression "My way or the highway." The following headline from the Chicago Sun Times captures the point well.
"Catholicism is the only true church, Vatican declares"
You can read the full story here. http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/religion/463069,CST-NWS-Vatican11.article
Kush was a pretty mediocre coach - that doesn't bode well for the pontiff.
I'm not attacking Joel for using free speech. I'm simply offering a counter message, just as 6:43 did to the message her perceived from my book.
When a person speaks something you disagree with, the best way to get your point across is to offer your opposing viewpoint. I'm not trying to censor Joel nor punish him for his speech, just to offer a different perspective.
I also never said there was a problem with getting rich. I said there was a problem with a materialistic focus and a love of money.
Wow, Pope bashing. And for thinking that he leads the one, true church. I know in this time of moral relativism it's amazing that anyone could think that his beliefs are more correct than anyone else, but wouldn't it be more worrisome to you if the Pope didn't think he was leading the one true church? If he didn't believe that, why wouldn't he just pack it in and tell everyone just to become Lutherans?
Ahh, Regent. I remember walking into the Virginia bar exam and asking the gents seated to my left and right where they went. When they both answered "Regent" I knew there was no way I could fail.
9:35 - "Pope bashing" = quoting the pope. Who's doing the bashing? It is kind of amazing though, now that you mention it, that someone would think ghost stories are true at all, let alone more correct than someone else's ghost stories. Grow a brain.
Come on. Adam doesn't have to have a virtuous, intelligent, or even interesting message in order to be protected from this kind of harassment. That's the whole point of Constitutional liberties; they apply evenly to all, regardless of substance, or your own interest in promoting or defeating the views or people involved. I say kudos to Adam for making a stink--regardless of whether it's for publicity, attention, money, a pact with Satan, or anything. And kudos to Lat for posting the interview. Boo on all the commenters who would discredit Adam for writing his silly book.
12:14, Yes quoting the pope out of context is Pope bashing. Particularly when you then portray him as not open to dialogue and as someone who thinks agreeing with snippets of Eastern philosophy and the Talmud would profane the Lord.
But your puerile "grow a brain" comment make clear who the closed minded bigot is. You and Pat Robertson deserve each other. Leave the philosophy to the people who have the intellectual sac to handle it.
I have a fair amount of respect for Robertson, but Key still seems like a good guy. Not much that seems particularly wrong with him other than the fact that he is clearly not in his element at Regent. If the guy was studying at Brown or any of the left-wing colleges out there, he probably wouldn't stand out as particularly out of the ordinary (well, except for the fact that he is a Christian, albeit a left-wing one, which may in itself be unusual at some of the most radically left-wing schools). I agree that he is not Harvard/Yale material and his book may not be all that impressive, but seriously, how many lawyers out there do you think would be able to write a book that comes even close to meeting the standards of most respectable publishers?
I took the MPRE at Regent. There was a "faith band" practicing two doors down during much of the test administration. Hard to focus on professional ethics when the kids are shoutin' about the lord next door. s**thole.
Lat, seriously bro, is "Regentgate" really the best you could come up with? You're painful lack of naming creativity is really beginning to hurt the site. First it was all the awful SA names that you pulled out of your crapper. At least those had some kind of creativity though. Now you've just stooped to the same ol' lame recipe the traditional news media uses for a scandal: just add "gate" to the end of something. LAME!!!
If you really wanted to stick with the "gate" idea, the least you could have done was try something creative, like "Regent Renegate" or something. You can use that if you'd like, but I think we'd all really rather see you start putting some effort into your naming.
Don't tase me, Lat!
Adam Key is absolutely precious! --- I've never laughed so hard in my life. One thing's fer sure, he's got a whole lot of great potential... I wish Adam luck in finding a new law school that not only protects his first amendment rights but encourages freedom of expression --- before Cheney/Bush revoke the US Constitution.
Adam key is a douche. If you ever met the guy, you would realize within 10 seconds that the lights are not all on upstairs... in fact the lights have a mind of their own... for real. Lat, you should do an interview with his old roomate. Anyone in adam's class can tell you he NEEDS the psych eval... and he needs to wear larger shirts. Because he's a gunner who sits in the front row of class and everytime he stands up he blocks the whole board and we all get a nice peek at his butt crack.
lastly, of course he's a good fighter. He's scary to look at and weighs about 400 lbs.
furthermore, i think all the TTT bashing is ALMOST funny -- considering when everyone who goes to "lower ranking" law schools pass the bar and get nice paying jobs. who the heck cares what law school you went to (depending on what type of practice you get into)?
ALSO -- people seem to think that if you go to regent law, you must subscribe to the beliefs of Patty Pat. (That's what we call him) Nothing could be further from the truth. Myself and many others here don't like Pat at all, came to Regent for OTHER reasons, etc. Even most, if not all, of the professors don't subscribe to the Pat Robertson mentality (thank goodness)
As for the guy who had to deal with the "faith band" -- that sucks. Same thing happened to some of my friends in the contracts final last year. The band is part of the divinity school I believe. And it sucks that we have to be in the same building as them, b/c nobody likes the divinity students (okay, maybe just me).
I am late with my comment so I doubt if Mr. Key reads this but I will try anyway. Pat Robertson is a very malicious and vicious, hate-filled and spiteful little man. He smears anyone who will not bow down to him. He will go after Mr. Key and his loved ones with a vengeance. He will cheat in order to win. Pat Robertson is a coward and a bully, a thief, a liar, and a fraud. He will use his tv show to attack Mr. Key, hiding covert threats and attacks in "prayer and healing" and also in those Bring-It-On segments. Disobedience to that snickering pervert equals disobedience to God, and anyone who is guilty of such a sin deserves to suffer.
I hope that Mr. Key has considered how painful and personally devastating a lawsuit against this warmongering and hatemongering power freak could be.
The reason Adam has received support from 1Ls (assuming that it's true, of course) is that they don't know him. Those of us who DO know Adam are cognizant of his dubious integrity, inconsistent reasoning, and limited intelligence. He is making a fool of many--including those who support him wholeheartedly from a distance.
ALL Christians are called to live a life that is pleasing to God. This is a challenge and part of meeting the challenge is bringing to light that which is in opposition to God. As future attorneys, you have a responsibility to bring abusers into the courts for justice. It will be your responsibility as Christians and as attorneys to defend victims of abuse, victims of con artists. My prayer for you is that you will have the courage to speak the truth and boldly defend these vulnerable and trusting souls who are precious to God. Pat Robertson has exploited them for too long. He has lied, cheated and stolen for too long. He has used prayer and healing as a money-making tool long enough. You who are blessed with intelligence and filled with love are called by God. But listen. You cannot allow abuses to continue in His name and expect to experience the love of God.
"Patty Pat"
funny
He enjoys casting stones.
He might be relishing this opportunity to fight with somebody new.
I think his prophesies are most amusing though.
There is nothing wrong with having money. The problem is using deceit to get it and claiming it came from God. They use "words of knowledge" and "healing" to bring the money in. They can probably prove that it increases giving.
Somehow the description "Christian" has come to mean "Bully"
like we have to fight everybody and find fault instead of being humble peacemakers and forgivers like "Christian" once meant. They love that Coulter lady.
"Patty Pat" likes division. He's a fake, we know it but the sad thing is all those who believe the imitations to be sincere. They turn worship and prayer into a mockery. Its poetic that a mocker was offended by a mocker. God has a sense of humor.
I just graduated from Regent Law in May.
I know Adam personally and he's a total freak. The guy has major problems with authority gets into conflicts all the time.
He's an attention seeking weirdo. Key is pretending that this is about a facebook photo, it's not.
It was one of my close friends who heard him talking about having a gun in his car.
Not only that, last year he asked a student to hold his gun while he lived in the Regent Village.
And he's way too pushy and aggressive with women -- in a bad way. Girls at the school are afraid of him.
For example, prior to even getting to Regent Key messaged a number of girls (whom he had not even met) telling them that "I've been praying about it and God wants us to date each other." Strange?
Lastly, I'm an agnostic democrat. If I made it through three years without getting into any trouble at Regent for my dissenting views, anyone can.
Regent's rep is bad enough. I don't need attention whores like Key dirtying the name of my alma mater any more.
The young law student should leave quietly. He should continue his education in another school where he will fit in.
I have no interest really except that I have been bullied and victimized by Pat Robertson. It is natural for me to take the side of whoever is challenging him. I know that he will oversee a smear campaign against anyone who threatens to expose his wrongdoing. I know that he considers disobedience to him equal to disobedience to God. I know that he exploits the faithful and I know that he does not care about the Commandments or the Constitution and he lives by his own rules.
I know that he helped Gordon cheat on his wife. I know that everyone on that show was aware of Gordon's extramarital affair with a woman who was involved in criminal stalking, harassment, and slander. I know that they use prayer and healing as a tactic for profit and even as a weapon against their accusers, using hidden messages to intimidate and insult and threaten. I know that they will use illegal hidden devices to gather information to use against anyone who does not give in to them and I know that they will set traps and lie in wait for their opportunity to stand in judgment and shake their heads and snicker and say "WHORE!SINNER!LIAR!ADULTERER!HYPOCRITE!"
I will pray for Adam Key, regardless. He has no idea how malicious Pat Robertson really is.
"patty pat"
keeps it spinning
collusion is in every corner
jay sekulow is that whore lover's monkeyboy
Cheryl,
Those of us who know him know that Adam Key will not fit in anywhere.
He got himself into trouble at his undergrad and he got himself into conflicts last year at law school.
The guy craves conflicts and attention.
Thank you to "Hello."
There is value in the understanding of a person's reputation. You know Adam in a real way and I know Pat Robertson and his son in a real way. The Robertsons are fake holymen and it hurts to see them continuing to abuse their positions of trust. Because of my own experiences, my prayers will be with Adam Key.
At the very least, this has given me a forum.
I have been up against Pat and Gordon Robertson and their beloved stalker whore Gigi for more than ten years. They have called me names and attacked me while encouraging and flattering Gordon's whore in the same breath for more than ten years. It is painful to see them feigning holiness. I know that they are adulterers and liars and thieves but I have no power to do anything about it. So many faithful people look to them for prayer and healing and send them their money, and it hurts, as a Christian, it hurts so much to know the truth about them and to be threatened and smeared and bullied by them.
"Hello," I am praying for Adam Key. He has given me this forum.
I am thankful for small blessings.
ohh...GOD...how do you expect Gordy to have the strength to continue serving you as a holyman without those regular blowjobs? Gordy has NEEDS, Lord!
Let's all gather around the tv today for the Pay-for-Pray Pat Robertson Show. Let's all touch our tv screens and pray that Gordy's daddy can find him a new whore since Gigi got outed. The trouble maker BAD CHRISTIAN Cheryl found a way to fight back against those cheats and their stalker whore, so horny Gordy needs our prayers.
Cheryl deserved to be punished and to lose all those jobs because she was in opposition to God, unlike Gigi. She is just not as LOVELY as Gigi. They HAD to smear Cheryl.
Now's the time to bring out Meeuwsen with those "tongues" to fight back. Meeuwsen will show up today with "tears," and "words of knowledge" spoken with such sweetness - she's filled with the HOLY SPIRIT and was so happy for Gordon and Gigi's E HARMONY. Adultery is not sinful for some.
-whether adam knows it or not
-whether he is a believer or not
is beside the point
-he was used for God's purposes
-God knows you, Adam
-God wrapped Adam up and delivered him to Cheryl as a gift
-She has been assaulted and made fun of for more than ten years by "Patty Pat" and all those other healers on his show
=hey patty pat= answer these questions in Bring it on
is stalking a crime?
how about harassment?
what about character defamation?
and communicating threats?
conspiracy to commit theft?
conspiracy to commit fraud?
maybe adultery is not a CRIME and maybe there are people who really think they were healed by your goons, but how about collusion?????????
Cheryl deserved to lose all those jobs because she was in opposition to God, unlike Gigi. She is just not as LOVELY as Gigi. They HAD to smear Cheryl. This was God's will.
Those of us who know Pat Robertson know that he will not fit in anywhere.
The guy craves conflicts and attention.
well, yes, he craves attention and conflict but don't you agree that since he is a prophet AND a descendent of royalty he can live by different rules than the rest of us?
get that cd of gordon's about being blessable and maybe there are codes about how to get blow jobs and still have the power to heal and be holy in front of the tv cameras
how do you get it?
the cd about getting blow jobs and still being blessable?
is there a website for it?
the way to get blow jobs and still be blessable cd-
you have to call the pat robertson show and say the sinners prayer with one of those prayer partners
they will then tell you how to get that cd by gordon
i think you have to actually join their club though
the answers to your questions will be in code though
Students at Regent have an opportunity to sign up for an email bulletin board called THEBRANCH. Anyone who is signed up can send an email which will be received everyone who has signed up. Normally the purpose is to share information like I want to sell or buy such and such.
It was through this service that I first learned of Mr. Key's problem. Some time after the meeting at which he was directed to remove the photo he posted on the branch complaining about the incident. He explained that he was told that his message (whatever it was) was not conveyed in the proper academic setting. His purpose in posting on the branch was to voice his message in that proper setting.
His hypocracy in this situation was also apparent in the message--he wrote that any reply should be directed to him through private email. The effect, had others done as he requested, would have been that he voiced his message publicly without it being subjected to public scrutiny and debate about that position. Is this not exactly what he complains that the university has done by telling him he can't voice dissent?
Then the university tried to correct the problem as Mr. Key resisted and decided nationalize his story. Again, Mr. Key had the luxury of a public forum where only his voice would be heard since the university is legally limited in the response it can make to his statements. When he tried this on the branch, he failed; the students responded to his message with a sound critique that undermined his logic and pointed out the numerous inconsistencies in his statements. The national coverage by contrast has been largely one sided. Mr. Key claims to be upset about free speech, but his actions indicate that all he wants is to make his arguments without having to face any form of rebuttal.
I would like to briefly comment on the speech that he feels was squelched. The original photo was a sophomoric joke without any cognizable message. Mr. Key had to explain his intent before a message could be understood. His explanation (offered in the branch message and following discussion) was that the photo was posted to show that Pat is a bad man. The logical question that flows from this is "how does the image show that he is a bad man." The answer is that Pat is making an obsene Gesture. When the bits of information are synthesized Mr. Key's argument can be seen--Pat is bad because he flipped someone off.
There is a serious problem with this message becuase it is a lie. The image is presented out of context. It is taken from a video in which Pat was scratching his face. Mr. Key takes advantage of a benign action, frames it in a dishonest manner, and uses to support an attack on Pats character.
What then was the university's objection and mandate to Mr. Key? Essentially it was that he had to stip lying. Mr. Key complains that his free speech was violated because he was told to stop lying. I don't think a lie is the sort of free speech that needs to be protected.
Mr. Key was not told by the university that he could voice dissent about Pat and he admitted this in the branch messages. Rather he was told the dissent had to be voiced in an academic context.
Finally, I want to say that I am not at all a strong supporter of Pat. I think that he has serious flaws which are deserving of criticism, some of those are mentioned in this discussion. The biggest problem I have with the actions of Mr. Key is not is message, but his motive. My view of the scenario is that Mr. Key posted the picture because he thought it was entertaining, nothing more. He was told to remove it and his anti-authoritarian nature kicked in. He wasn't willing to abide by the rules of the school. He then invented a complaint that the school is trying to silence his criticism. The school has standards and rules which have nothing to do with free speech and which student are required to follow. Mr. Key doesn't want to follow the rules, and that is what the whole complaint is really about.
thanks for the heads up!
i called that number and said the sinners prayer and told them i'd send $20.
she said she'd send that cd right out to me.
I wonder why the Good Christians there in Pat Robertson's World did not get rid of Gordon Robertson after he was caught in an adulterous affair. He continues to sit there on tv feigning healings and words of knowledge and holiness. Those people are accountable to NO ONE. They care nothing about the Constitution OR the Commandments. They smear anyone who does not bow down to them.
Whoever Regent 2L is needs to retake Torts. Anytime deception is alleged, truth is always a defense. Key's picture was a freezeframe, Pat actually was in that position at the point where the shot was frozen. No one is disputing that. Key's picture was accurate so, even though it is out of context, it cannot be a lie.
Larry Flynt's Falwell ad wasn't true either, but it was not a lie. Nobody reasonable would assume Pat was flicking the bird, so again, it is not a lie.
With reasoning skills like "Regent 2L", it is easy to see why Regent is so lowly ranked.
walk up to holyman Gordon and ask him who Gigi Lacey is ask him why he sat there all that time on his daddy's tv show and tell others to confess their sins repent change their sinful ways while he himself was deep into sexual sin AND into a scam to use prayer and healing to intimidate and threaten an innocent woman
walk up to that horny holyman Gordon and ask him who Cheryl Spencer is and why he spent years attacking her and encouraging his whore Gigi to continue the stalking and harassment of Cheryl Spencer and her husband and childfren
he and his daddy are scumbags
they love what is evil and hate what is true
they dont care about what your heart and life look like as long as you are in obedience to them
WALK UP TO HIM AND ask hornyman holyman Gordon about the conspiracy with Russ Ritchel who is the pastor of a church in Winston-Salem
Russ Ritchel also had sex with Gigi Lacey
They were all working together to cover their sins and make Cheryl take the blame and pay off their "sin debts"
Cheryl was a member of Russ Ritchel's church and was in counseling there when Russ Ritchel made the deals with Patty Pat and the other healers to help him scapegoat Cheryl
WALK UP TO HIM AND ask hornyman holyman Gordon about the conspiracy with Russ Ritchel who is the pastor of a church in Winston-Salem
Russ Ritchel also had sex with Gigi Lacey
They were all working together to cover their sins and make Cheryl take the blame and pay off their "sin debts"
Cheryl was a member of Russ Ritchel's church and was in counseling there when Russ Ritchel made the deals with Patty Pat and the other healers to help him scapegoat Cheryl she wouldnt bow down to them They hate her and bullied her cruelly and incessantly for more than ten years
this is how dangerous and out of control those cheats are
THEY ALL SAID GOD HAD SENT CHERYL TO THEM LIKE SHE WAS THEIR MODERN DAY SACRIFICE FROM THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE
they said God sent Cheryl to them to save them from their sins
and they giggled and snickered as they carried out "God's" plan for their salvation and for Cheryl's sacrifice
Gigi was threatening them with blackmail
They were desperate
They expected Cheryl to be easy to falsely accuse and use and abuse
She was already in counseling and was struggling
She was sent to them by GOD - a perfect scapegoat
they began setting it all up many years ago
they sent out their blackmailing whore
they gave that whore carte blanche over cheryl and her family
they biased every person in cheryl's life and played dumb while the whore was slandering and sabotaging that family
russ ritchel played dumb
they began setting it all up many years ago
they sent out their blackmailing whore
they gave that whore carte blanche over cheryl and her family
they biased every person in cheryl's life and played dumb while the whore was slandering and sabotaging that family
russ ritchel is pastor of first presbyterian church in downtown winston salem nc
jay selulow knew all about the conspiracy
cheryl was entitled to a settlement as a result of some harassment and defamation
they knew about it and planned to take it away from her and use it to pay off the blackmail AND to distribute it as "blessings" to the healers as payment for the help
gordon and gigi met during all the harassment and got in bed together
gigi's a stalker whore
she has sex with married men
they pass her around for sex
they call her HOOVER becasue of her skills giving blow jobs
she was so jealous of cheryl
she slandered cheryl everywhere cheryl went she stalked cheryl for more than ten years and those faith healers including patty pat made fun of cheryl and told gigi that her WORK was good
they intervened every time cheryl went to someone for help
they intervened every time cheryl went to an attorney
they stalked cheryl into churches and biased every pastor
they went to cheryl's doctors and had her falsely diagnosed with schizophrenia so theycould easily steal from her
please
somebody walk up to patty pat or to horny gordy
ask them why they entered into an agreement with russ ritchel to offer fake healings and fake words of knowledge in return for "blessings"
they even used illegal hidden devices inside cheryl's home and cars
they used illegal wiretaps
they scared her and threatened her
then they would comfort her with kind words on that show only to attack her again the next day
they even used illegal hidden devices inside cheryl's home and cars
they used illegal wiretaps
they scared her called her names made fun of her body and threatened her
then they would comfort her with kind words on that show only to attack her again the next day
they even used illegal hidden devices inside cheryl's home and cars
they used illegal wiretaps
they scared her called her names made fun of her body and threatened her
then they would comfort her with kind words on that show only to attack her again the next day
they even used illegal hidden devices inside cheryl's home and cars
they used illegal wiretaps
they scared her called her names made fun of her body and threatened her
then they would comfort her with kind words on that show only to attack her again the next day
PAT ROBERTSON IS A SLEAZE BAG
GORDON ROBERTSON IS A SLEAZE BAG
THEY ARE WHOREMONGERS
THEY HAVE THE POWER TO HEAL
FATHER AND SON FAITH HEALERS
FATHER AND SON HOLYMEN
THEY HAVE A LICENSE TO LIE CHEAT AND STEAL AND SAY "LOOK AT WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR ME"
well....i guess those holymen might have been mistaken when they heard God tell them Cheryl was sent to save them from their sins and to pay off their sin debts and Gigi was sent to MEET THEIR NEEDS
don't you hate when that happens?
when you thought God said one thing but you find out online that it was a minor misunderstanding? damn now everybody knows about their beloved stalker whore Gigi damn it it was just a minor misunderstanding a message from the CREEEEator that was simply misunderstood damn it
she was already really really weak
they had those doctors give her the wrong medicine
she was real weak already
they exploited her sickness for their convenience
this is all the truth
What is the plan NOW Russ Ritchel and Pat Robertson? Is there a back-up plan? You lied and cheated so that you would win and so that you could tell everybody that God had blessed you AND pay off the extortion demands AND make an innocent woman take the blame for your sins for the rest of her life. Soooooo, I guess you need to call another one of those emergency backdoor prayer meetings to discuss what next week's prayer and healing should consist of.
can you say HYPO CRITE?
can you say COLLU S I O N?
CAN YOU SAY PRISON SENTENCE?
sooo...... jay sekulow and patty pat fight for the constitution yet they deny an innocent woman her civil rights to privacy confidentiality to legal counsel to meet her accusers to know what her crimes are to have a fair trial with a judge in charge
interesting
what do the REGENT law students think about their leaders NOW?
what about malpractice?
any attorneys out there want to take on a prophet a descendent of royalty in court?
or....you could just get blown too by gigi
CNN and FOX and other media have known about Pat Robertson's abuses for more than a year now. I think they feel sorry for him and they do not want to do any hard work. They think it is all so funny. They do not give a damn about the people on the other side who are listening to that kook and sending him their money and really believing that God speaks to him.
the people at cnn and fox think its funny
they have watched it happen and then they laugh and make jokes about that foolish old whoring kook who lived vicariously through his doormat dork fake holyman son who could not see that that passed around whore was after his daddy's money
patty pat was so excited that the spoiled brat he raised was getting blow jobs
gordon robertson
this is to YOU
it is shocking that no one there on that show could see what gigi was doing with you you fat ugly frogface dupe
she wanted your daddy's MONEY gordon NOT YOU she hated you she was getting naked with you and blowing you with a plan to extort money from you she did not mind defrauding you because she knew firsthand what a fraud YOU ARE Gordon Robertson holyman
PRAISE GOD AND HALLELUIA!
Healer Lisa Ryan got a boob job!
i hope gordon gets that big job so we can watch the media do its JOB
we can watch gigi walking into the court
we can hear her tell all about sex with holyman married gordon
she can describe again how gordon has a fat butt like a woman's butt and fat legs and wide fat feet too
I wish somebody would help me. I have never even met Gigi Lacey. I never asked those televangelists for anything. Russ Ritchel was my pastor and he handed me over to them and then he hid himself and denied knowing anything about any of it. I knew nothing about his sexual affair with Gigi until recently and I only found out about Gordon and Gigi recently too. I did not understand why they would not leave us alone. I kept telling through that online prayer page on CBN.com to leave me alone but they only got angrier and more aggressive with me.
If i get a little bit settled in another church, they bias that pastor too and give that pastor some kind of "blessing" and I get no help again
They won't leave us alone
They are furious with me for not letting them walk all over me and my family
They hate me fighting back
They call a bribe a "blessing"
They gave the lady pastor at Duke Chapel a "blessing" too
It does not matter what church I go to
they are always there too, biasing everyone and offering "blessings" I guess to buy more time that they can use to set traps for me so that I will do something that they can use against me
They keep setting traps for me
and when I don't fall into them they get so angry with me
they do not heal anybody
they cause sickness NOT healing
they cause the problem and then they belittle you and demoralize you and degrade you for having it
Meeuwsen is the worse one because she is so covert
they only stopped attacking when they realized they were being watched
they realized that cnn was watching
they realized that cnn had gotten some information about their scams and about what they were doing to me
meeuwsen was poised though to really "go after" me overtly she only stopped because she realized that they were being watched
they realized that i was telling the truth about gigi cutting their throats
otherwise they would still be attacking me and making fun of me
i think that meeuwsen's husband also had sex with gigi
lisa ryan's husband also had sex with gigi
i am almost certain this is true
they can sue me for slander but I dont care if they sue me because we have already suffered so much we have already lost so much they cannot hurt me anymore because i am so numb anyway from all the confusion and abuse it has been more than ten years so if they sue me it wont matter anyway at least then i will be able to have my own attorney they keep interfering when i try to find help for myself so if they sue me for slander at least i will be able to face them in court
i think that meeuwsen's husband also had sex with gigi
lisa ryan's husband also had sex with gigi
i am almost certain this is true
they can sue me for slander but I dont care if they sue me because we have already suffered so much we have already lost so much they cannot hurt me anymore because i am so numb anyway from all the confusion and abuse it has been more than ten years so if they sue me it wont matter anyway at least then i will be able to have my own attorney they keep interfering when i try to find help for myself so if they sue me for slander at least i will be able to face them in court
if they sue me for slander
that will be a good time for them to see me for themselves instead of taking gigi's word about me
they can actually see me with their own eyes instead of through gigi's eyes
I am sorry to you, Adam Key, for usurping your space.
YOU ARE MY BESTEST FRIEND ADAM KEY.
Adam Key, I know that I have no right to do this in a forum that was set up for you, so please accept my apology. I hope that I am not hurting you. I hope that I am not causing you distress of any kind. I have been bullied by Pat Robertson for more than ten years and no one will help me.
Adam Key,
I am not sure of this, but maybe I am helping you. I know that they smear their accusers and maybe I am saving you from years of smears and harassment and taunting. I hope that I am not hurting you and I hope that I am helping you and I hope that you do not mind. When I moved away from Winston-Salem I had no animosity for anyone and only wanted to heal and find a new place of worship. They had no right to have me followed and to hand us over to Gordon's whore and to those hate-filled faith healers.
Adam Key, I have a son your age. Gigi slandered him. Please do not take offense at what I am doing with your space. I am praying for you, Adam.
The media is looking the other way for now.
Or...they WERE looking the other way.
Cheryl and Adam
;] BFF
walk up to kristie watts
if you see her on campus or around that town
ask her why why why would she participate in a scam to use prayer and healing as a weapon against a woman who she has never even met
ask kristie why she helped gordon cheat on his wife and children
if she IS a christian, why is she THERE?