What's the big deal, it was a teddy bear not a Hitlery doll

Only an Islamic would bring a rock to a gun fight.

These religious fanatics need to grow a pair and stop getting all red in the face all the time. What a bunch of big babies.

agreed, 10:33, christian conservatives in the u.s. definitely need to start acting like adults.

That link to the story has an awesome picture right near the top. Although it appears they have no 8th Amendment in Sudan, they appear to protect the 2nd Amendment over there.

And Islam is a religion of peace.... Right.

Crikey, now THAT's a knife!

What makes this story even more ridiculous is the fact that the teacher didn't name the bear Mohammed... it was her Mulsim students who named the bear Mohammed.

Here's a perfect chance for CAIR to denounce this brand of Islam as not the mainstream of Islamic thought and practice.

Who'll give odds on this actually happening? 100:1? 500:1?

I am withholding comment until I hear from the one true prophet, the Teddy Bear Named Mohammed.

VINDICATION AT LAST!!! MY OWN POST!!!

ETERNAL SHOUT OUTS TO LAT!!!

CRA-ZY.

somehow i don't think that "offense to religion" law protects christianity, judaism, or hinduism.

as lewis black once said, "when people take themselves too seriously, that's when things...go awry."

10:44 - Actually, the largest Muslim organization in the UK denounced the actions of Sudan, even before the violent outcry. From the moment of incarceration, they said that the teacher's actions were an innocent mistake and that no offense was intended. So...there has been an outcry from a major Muslim organization in the west, and one far more influential than those in the states.

JT likes teddies -- on his women.

What is really appalling abotu this story is the Daily Mail's atrocious grammar and punctuation.

10:42, Christianity is supposedly a "religion of peace," but that didn't stop the Spanish Inquisition. it doesn't stop christian fundamentalists from bombing women's clinics.

10:48...

Did that have anything to do with my post? I didn't say "outcry from a major Muslim organization in the West." I said, "Here's a perfect chance for CAIR to denounce this brand of Islam..."

I wasn't making a general argument about Western Islamic orgs being silent---I was taking bets on one specific American Islamic org. remaining silent.

LEGAL UPDATE: Apparently the case actually hinged on whether the Teddy Bear was merely named "Mohammed" or if the Teddy Bear was named "Mohammed the Prophet."

Trial transcript:
Judge: "Are you the one they call Teddy Bear Named Mohammed the Prophet?"
Teddy Bear Named Mohammed: "I am"
Mob: "Crucify, er, machete him!!!"

(apologies to Jesus)

Let me be perfectly clear: My name is Teddy Bear Named Mohammed The Prophet. Let the murderous rage fill the land!!! Only through murder of school teachers, aid workers, nuns and Christians can the one true Teddy Bear be honored.

P.S. He Iran, how are those nukes coming?

10:51, you're right. I guess that makes this OK.

I heard that the teddy bear just blew himself up.

I agree that American-based Muslim advocacy groups really need to vocally denounce this. It may not be fair for people to assume that those organizations' silence indicates any sort of approval for whatever controversy, but that's just the way it is. Those organizations need to leverage their visibility and scream "moderate" and "reasonable" to undercut the more sensational headlines of wacko fundamentalists.

The picture Lat posted is horribly offensive to The Prophet (P.B.U.H.)

DOWN WITH ABOVE THE LAW!

10:51, and when those crazies bomb abortion clinics, there is outcry from nearly every major mainstream church denouncing the action, even in the face of their opposition to abortion.

I really hope somebody starts selling Mohammed The Prophet teddy bears. Maybe then all these nutbags will have a collective aneurism and die.

10:51, what? Christianity doesn't stop me from bombing clinics? Yeehaw. Excuse me, gotta go make some bombs.

So why does the picture of Mohammed the bear have to be white???

So naming all your kids Mohammed is fine, but naming a stuffed animal Mohammed is an affront to Islam? Maybe the class chose the name because it's the most popular name in Sudan, and almost everyone has a relative/friend named Mohammed. Then again, just to be safe, the teacher should probably die.

10:53:

no, it doesn't, and the fact that you interpreted my comment to infer such shows that you missed the point entirely. simply b/c some members of a religion pervert it for their own selfish ends doesn't impute that behavior to all other members. just b/c some muslims are violent doesn't mean Islam is violent; just b/c some christians are violent doesn't mean christianity is not a peaceful religion.

Don't stone me bro!!!!!

10:54, that's what I was getting at. As the prior poster noted, Muslim groups worldwide are getting better at doing this, but CAIR's report card is, well, not as good as the elementary school's that named the teddy bear Mohammed

10:56(2) - I am with you 100%... but there is no way we could ever be so lucky.

10:52/1 - Then, in that case, your statement is really just political posturing. The actions of the UK org are far more symbolic, as the community there is frequently more religiously conservative and radicalized. Plus, the woman stuck in this situation is British. Does the CAIR get involved in situations like this, anyway?

10:57...something about thou shalt not kill..something something. Eh, must not be important

10:58 (1), no you were the one who inferred my initial comment about CAIR incorrectly. Never once did I say that Islam wasn't a "religion of peace." Since you and a couple others didn't seem to get the more subtle post I made, I'll spell it out for you.

Regardless of whether or not Islam is or is not a peaceful religion, there is an image of it as a violent and backwards religion in the West. This image is reinforced by such instances as the teddy bear fiasco. If mainstream Muslims in the US want to help their cause and overcome the stereotype (again, taking NO STAND HERE on whether or not is a fair stereotype) that theirs is a religion of violence, now would be a good time for CAIR (the largest and most influential Muslim political group in the US) to stand up and say something.

Look the woman broke the law and should suffer the consequences. Granted, it's a stupid law, but that's their law. If you want to lobby to change the law, so be it. Just don't condemn the government for enforcing its laws.

Please do not try and compare Christians to the One True Religion.

You think anyone ever took to the streets for Teddy Bear Named Jesus? Or burned down buildings for political cartoons of Jesus?! Oh sure, they have a few abortion bombings (what, two?)--my followers slaughter more FELLOW MUSLIMS in factional disputes everyday, than were ever killed by abortion clinic bombings. I invented suicide bombing. Teddy Bear has inspired the largest attack on U.S. soil -- killing more americans than the ENTIRE IMPERIAL JAPANESE FLEET. Do Christians ever have honor killings, honor rapings, hand choppings or suicide bombings? Do Christians, both, deny the Holocaust occured and call for its repeat? Do Christians forbid women to drive, vote or go to school? Christians big complaint is STOPPING killing of fetuses...Teddy Bear encourages and even allows forced abortions. But, before I defend Teddy Bear Named Jesus... the enemy of my enemy is my friend. If liberals hate Christians then Teddy Bear Named Mohammed welcomes you with open arms.

Mohammed is a fag.

11:04,

No, CAIR doesn't do anything in situations like these, and that is precisely the problem! The actions of the UK org. are more symbolic, but not in the US. Even though the woman is British, there are major headlines in the US that will be interpreted as "Muslims wielding swords want to kill British teacher because of what her students named a toy bear." What moderate Sudanese or British Muslims say will have little impact on our shores.

I don't care if this happened on Mars to Marvin the Martian, and neither does the bigoted individual who says "Gosh, all Muslims wield swords and overreact to the smallest things." The perception is here in the U.S., and the largest and most influential U.S. org. should say SOMETHING. Do you disagree?

If that means I'm engaging in "political posturing" (whatever that means), then I guess so....

Please do not try and compare Christians to the One True Religion.

You think anyone ever took to the streets for Teddy Bear Named Jesus? Or burned down buildings for political cartoons of Jesus?! Oh sure, they have a few abortion bombings (what, two?)--my followers slaughter more FELLOW MUSLIMS in factional disputes everyday, than were ever killed by abortion clinic bombings. I invented suicide bombing. Teddy Bear has inspired the largest attack on U.S. soil -- killing more americans than the ENTIRE IMPERIAL JAPANESE FLEET. Do Christians ever have honor killings, honor rapings, hand choppings or suicide bombings? Do Christians, both, deny the Holocaust occured and call for its repeat? Do Christians forbid women to drive, vote or go to school? Christians big complaint is STOPPING killing of fetuses...Teddy Bear encourages and even allows forced abortions. But, before I defend Teddy Bear Named Jesus... the enemy of my enemy is my friend. If liberals hate Christians then Teddy Bear Named Mohammed welcomes you with open arms.

EMbrace the religion of peace!

Please do not try and compare Christians to the One True Religion.

You think anyone ever took to the streets for Teddy Bear Named Jesus? Or burned down buildings for political cartoons of Jesus?! Oh sure, they have a few abortion bombings (what, two?)--my followers slaughter more FELLOW MUSLIMS in factional disputes everyday, than were ever killed by abortion clinic bombings. I invented suicide bombing. Teddy Bear has inspired the largest attack on U.S. soil -- killing more americans than the ENTIRE IMPERIAL JAPANESE FLEET. Do Christians ever have honor killings, honor rapings, hand choppings or suicide bombings? Do Christians, both, deny the Holocaust occured and call for its repeat? Do Christians forbid women to drive, vote or go to school? Christians big complaint is STOPPING killing of fetuses...Teddy Bear encourages and even allows forced abortions. But, before I defend Teddy Bear Named Jesus... the enemy of my enemy is my friend. If liberals hate Christians then Teddy Bear Named Mohammed welcomes you with open arms.

EMbrace the religion of peace!

Thanks for proving how out of touch you are, 10:37. Do you really think Islamist theocrats are even remotely similar to the so-called "right wing" in this country? That's the best laugh I had all day.

If the Brits couldn't get Gordon out of Khartoum, I don't see how they're going to save this lady.

What the Council on American-Islamic Relations has to do with some British woman in Sudan is beyond me.

I just don't see a CAIR-Bear connection.

Hasn't it been many years since an abortion clinic was bombed? Wasn't Eric Rudolph really the only guy out there doing it? That sounds more like one whacko than anything you could attribute to a group.

Also, maybe you guys should find some more recent examples of Christian extremism than stuff that is ancient history (i.e. Spanish Inquisition, Crusades, etc.). I don't think anything on a large scale (say, more than 1,000 people involved) has happened in many hundreds of years.

"Mohammed is a FAG"?!?!

Do you mean Mohammed or Mohammed the prophet? Becuase either way someone is getting the death penalty.

Teddy Bear countries have the death penalty for homosexuality. I am glad these american "liberals" have not called on Teddy Bear to accept gay shiekhs.

Seriously, the more stupid retarded things like this happen, the less and less credible (not that islam was credible lately anyway) islam becomes. Seriously, its a fucking teddy bear named by THE KIDS, not by her.

Where is the outrage and rioting from the so-called "moderate" Muslims? Their silence can only be seen as implied approval - and another reason why muslims cannot bitch about how they are treated over here.

You think that if an african-american did something like that, there wouldn't be al sharpton and jessie jackson all over the media? seriously.

anyone who compares these animals to christian fundamentalists (other than those 2 or 3 guys who blow up abortion clinics) should be riddled with bullets and have their bullet wounds peed on by someone with SUPERAIDS.

Someone has to eradicate anyone who is capable of such twisted, broken logic in the name of PCism to save the human race. The sheer, mind-blowing, bowel loosening stupidity of such a comparison calls for the immediate removal of such person's dna from our gene pool.

How come every time a crazy muslim does something, some guy mentions the Inquistion? WTF!?!

How come every time a crazy muslim does something, some guy mentions the Inquistion? WTF!?!

10:48, you're a moron, and so is the organization you mentioned--so they (and you?) apparently think this woman should go to jail if it was not an innocent mistake and if she intended to insult islam? are you kidding? I don't care if she pissed on a picture of mohammed, she shouldn't be in jail for it, and until these groups are willing to defend one's right to do that, they are no better than these idiots in sudan

When was the last time a fundie bombed an abortion clinic? it certainly wasn't in this decade. That being said, not a day goes by that somewhere in the world a follower of the one true Prophet, blessed be his name, does not chop some missionary's head off on the internets.

People who are defending islamic atrocities by invoking the threat of christian fundamentalism are indeed comparing apples to suicide vests.

Funny story. Only a few decades ago, many Christians in this country used to kidnap, torture, and murder blacks. Sometimes they even made it a family outing, bringing the kids and taking pictures next to the burned corpse. Other Christians attacked blacks with guns, rocks, sticks, or fists for trying to vote or go to school. So please, get off this Christian moral authority. The reality is that most religions have fanatics that commit egregious atrocities in the name of the religion. Christianity has been no different.

Further, I call shenanigans on Teddy Bear Named Mohammed. He is actually Teddy Bear Named Abraham, a Jewish bear.

11:24, the picture of a woman peeing on a picture of Mohammed is far funnier than a man doing it.

How come atheists/agnostics get a pass?

Stalin, Pol-Pot, Castro, Lenin -- all communist and avowed atheist -- have the largest body counts of the 20th century.

10:42: the Spanish inquisition killed 3000 people over 400 years. More have been killed in a single day in the name of Islam and atheism. I'm sorry you hate Christianity. there are certainly people who don't follow its tenets. the difference is in the founders--Jesus was a peaceful guy; tell me with a straight face that Teddy Bear was

How come atheists/agnostics get a pass?

Stalin, Pol-Pot, Castro, Lenin -- all communist and avowed atheist -- have the largest body counts of the 20th century.

11:26 - that's a stretch. Get off your race soap box.

How come atheists/agnostics get a pass?

Stalin, Pol-Pot, Castro, Lenin -- all communist and avowed atheist -- have the largest body counts of the 20th century.

Christians, Muslims, Jew, et al

Stop using my name to justify your homicidal tendencies or I will smite you all!!!

Wikipedia has the facts on abortion clinic violence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-related_violence

Such violence is almost as bad as 9/11.

Hypo: (1) A foreign school teacher is in Harlem and names her Teddy Bear "Nigger". She is walking down street with "Teddy Bear Named Nigger" and is killed -- or merely mobbed.

(2) What if, instead, one of the black school children had named the Teddy Bear?

Discuss possible international outrage, fundamentalist christian reaction/blame, African-American reaction, and media coverage. (100 points)

11:29,

You missed the point. It's not a race soapbox. It's merely pointing out that Christians have also been guilty of egregious acts.

Sudan people are a loving and wonderful community. Try and show a little cultural sensitivity. Bottom line, you cannot go around Muslim countries enraging them.

Funny story. Only a few decades ago, many Christians in this country used to kidnap, torture, and murder blacks. Sometimes they even made it a family outing, bringing the kids and taking pictures next to the burned corpse. Other Christians attacked blacks with guns, rocks, sticks, or fists for trying to vote or go to school. So please, get off this Christian moral authority. The reality is that most religions have fanatics that commit egregious atrocities in the name of the religion. Christianity has been no different.

Further, I call shenanigans on Teddy Bear Named Mohammed. He is actually Teddy Bear Named Abraham, a Jewish bear.
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Several points here. First, like you said that stuff happened decades ago, two or more whole generations ago, and isn't relevant to this discussion. Second, those things weren't done in the name of Christianity, they were done as a result of racial bigotry and hatred, not religious zealotry. Third, there weren't any hugely widespread groups (organized and numbering in the thousands) doing it. It was more small groups in backward parts of the country.

Does this mean the kids will be executed as well?

In the hypothetical the only debate is whether the Christians bomb the school before or after the Muslims chop off her head.

Where does Al Sharpton fit in?

The inquisition massacred countless innocent civilians, the Christian wars of Europe cost countless lives, and more recently, slavery was justified through Christianity, Christians bomb clinics, and timothy Mc Veigh blew up innocent civilians in oklahoma. Does that mean that all other faiths should hate Christianity?

Relatedly, the wicked zionistic regime currently perpetuates one of the worst genocides in recent history and continuously carries on a Palestinian holocaust everyday in Palestine. Does that mean the Jewish faith should be condemned?

Interesting how these people make derogatory comments about Islam, yet I can bet my life that they have no idea of its true teachings.

Funny how petty they all look when its abundantly clear that their ideas are based on fear and hate. I never ceases to amaze me how alleged members of the legal profession jump to conclusions, cannot entertain ideas without accepting them, and simply base their judgments of what can most aptly be described as the fox “fair and balanced” perspective.

What a bunch of losers. Why don’t you study Islam for yourself? Scared that it might not live up to the vicious reputation that ignorance had built it as? Scared that it might expose your steadfast teachings as shams?

For all you “religious” people that chastise Muslims and make all these unsubstantiated allegations against other faiths, as yourselves if god would approve of your slander and backbiting, even if you disagree with a practice. WWJD–What would Jesus do?

Teddy Bear Named Mohammed is a transparent poseur.

11:32, thanks for the article. I found this most-telling:

"Nearly all mainstream pro-life organizations reject violence as a form of opposition to abortion"

Who is giving odds on whether the same will be said here, in the U.S.?

First, What is the point of invoking Christian abuses in the past? Does that somehow moderate or excuse Muslim behavior? How is past behavior (by anyone) relevant to current behavior?

Second, any abuse by Christians (or in the Name of christians) has been denounced, outlawed, and thrown in the face of Christians for decades or centuries by Liberals.

Third, Muslims have a history of abuse, slaughters, genocide, wars -- just like Christians. The difference is that Muslims ARE STILL DOING IT.

So, again, I ask, what relevance does past Christian behavior to current events?

First, What is the point of invoking Christian abuses in the past? Does that somehow moderate or excuse Muslim behavior? How is past behavior (by anyone) relevant to current behavior?

Second, any abuse by Christians (or in the Name of christians) has been denounced, outlawed, and thrown in the face of Christians for decades or centuries by Liberals.

Third, Muslims have a history of abuse, slaughters, genocide, wars -- just like Christians. The difference is that Muslims ARE STILL DOING IT.

So, again, I ask, what relevance does past Christian behavior to current events?

11:26 - shut up anyway. It's old already.

The beauty part is this woman is probably a Jew-hating Nazi like most of the British, and thought she was doing such a great thing spreading progressive learning among the oppressed of Islam. The fascistic elements of extreme Islam in Sudan naturally did not bother her -- the Zionists make them lash out this way!

Oh, did I say "lash"?

11:26 makes an excellent point. Blacks were lynched and abused in Jesus' name for centuries here and it was up to the godless atheists to put a stop to it. If only I could remember what Dr. Martin Luther King's day job was. Anyone?

Still doesn't excuse those Christian's who beheaded the "Piss Christ" guy. Or the elephant dung Mary guy. But who's counting anyway?

Well, considering Christianity is 600 years older than Islam, we should be gaging what Christians were doing in the 1400s. That doesn't bode too well for Christians.

Additionally, the KKK is a Christian organization. At the time these attorcities were going on, where was the Christian outrage? Further, don't be fooled into thinking it was just small pockets. People would come out in masses to watch the lynching.

Wikipedia has the facts on abortion clinic violence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-related_violence

Such violence is almost as bad as 9/11.
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Did you actually read the article? Only 7 people have ever been killed in the US as a result of abortion clinic violence. That is hardly comparable to Columbine, much less 9/11.

First, What is the point of invoking Christian abuses in the past? Does that somehow moderate or excuse Muslim behavior? How is past behavior (by anyone) relevant to current behavior?

Second, any abuse by Christians (or in the Name of christians) has been denounced, outlawed, and thrown in the face of Christians for decades or centuries by Liberals.

Third, Muslims have a history of abuse, slaughters, genocide, wars -- just like Christians. The difference is that Muslims ARE STILL DOING IT.

So, again, I ask, what relevance does past Christian behavior to current events?

"To read the Bible without horror, we must undo every thing that is tender, sympathising, and benevolent in the heart of man."

Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

Cats don't need religion and they seem to be a lot happier than humans.

11:47
"Such violence is almost as bad as 9/11" = JOKE

11:42: Narrowly tailored question: Please enlighten us to Islams true teaching on Homosexuality. What does the Koran say and how do "true" muslims feel on the issue?

Cats don't need religion and they seem to be a lot happier than humans.

11:42
Perhaps you could tell us the "true teachings" of Islam on the Jew. What does the Koran say about the Jew? how do Muslims feel about Jews?

Teddy Bear Named Muhammed--I'll admit yesterday I thought you were kinda lame. But you've won me over to your cause with 11:11

Cats are Buddhist, jackass.

Some of you blockheads/devil's advocates need to distinguish between mainstream Christianity today and Christianity's past. These days, any violence done in the name of Jesus Christ is condemned by the vast majority of those who speak on behalf of Christians. And let's not even get into the irrelevance of the Bible.

The same cannot be said about those who commit violence in the name of Islam.

No comment on the idea that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians.

her distraught daughter doesn't look all that distraught in that pic.

"Additionally, the KKK is a Christian organization. At the time these attorcities were going on, where was the Christian outrage?"

It was everywhere. Large-scale outrage that these racist a**holes were using the name of Christianity to kill people on the basis of race. Were you not alive then? Are you unable to research history?

11:55(1)

You are under a misapprehension.

Buddhists don't eat from sundown to sunrise and refrain from using a high, luxurious bed.

At least that Wikipedia tells me.

11:55(1)

You are under a misapprehension.

Buddhists only eat from sunrise to noon and refrain from using a high, luxurious bed.

At least that Wikipedia tells me.

Gotta love how every issue delves into black persecution.

11:56,

Actually, it is you who need to do a little research. I'm not talking about a few years ago. I'm talking about when lynchings were common and those in the community were silent. I'm sure it was a matter of personal safety, but none-the-less, they didn't say shit. Sure people several hundreds or thousands of miles away might have whispered, "you shouldn't do that." But the people who were local and could have done something chose to do nothing.

I think it's time for Muslims to have their Enlightenment, or go the way of the Dodo. Where are the Muslim Isaac Newtons, Thomas Jeffersons, Martin Luther Kings?

Teddy bear should have kept is original name, Cassius.

12:02.

Are you honestly denying that Christian leaders, both black and white, spearheaded the abolition and civil rights movements?

12:03,
The Muslim Enlightenment came and went back in the Middle Ages when Christian Europe was a barbaric backwater and the Middle East was the center of learning and civilization. Unfortunately that civilization was submurged under a rising tide of religious fundamentalism, which is exactly what will happen to the West if the religious right has its way here.

I'm completely aghast that crazy-assed Sudanese are rallying by the thousands to call for her execution. (What, they've solved that little tussle in Darfur?)

Look on the bright side: Blasphemy hasn't been so popular since the Inquisition. Everybody's doing it. Have you got what it takes to be a world-class blasphemer? Gator has prepared a little pop quiz to help your readers judge their SQ (*Sacrilege Quotient).

Just click to start your test ...

Just for arguments sake, let me outline my beliefs:

Teddy Bear Named Mohammed the Prophet:
1) Supports the killing of Sunni's by Shiites (or vice versa)
2) Supports training children to be suicide bombers
3) Forcing women to wear full veil and slashing by razor any uncovered women
4) Killing the Jew "wherever you find him" ( I actually wrote that one down)
5) Wiping Israel off the map
6) Never touching the Jew (including shaking his hand at peace conference in Annapolis)
7) Never recognize the existence of Israel
8) Honor killings
9) Honor Rapings
10) Numerous death penalty offenses
11) Hand chopping
12) No pork
13) Jihad (one of my tenants); not to be confused with the "religion of peace"
14) Intifada
15) No voting rights for women
16) Killing christians
17) Killing Buddhists
18) Some say my religion is "hijacked" by fanatics. These people are almost always non-muslims speaking out of turn.
19) If there is such thing as a "liberal" muslim, he must die.
20) Family killing of any converts from Teddy Bear.
21) Killing homosexuals
22) All of the above are subject to interpretation by clerics -- especially if such interpretation leads to more death and destruction.
23) No cleric will ever denounce another clerics decision under 22 (so far, so good)
24) The Koran is not to be translated from Arabic
25) Stoning of adulteresses and fornicators
24) Oh, I almost forgot, and Fasting and Praying

Can I get an amen?
Love,
Teddy Bear Named Mohammed the Prophet

Just for arguments sake, let me outline my beliefs:

Teddy Bear Named Mohammed the Prophet:
1) Supports the killing of Sunni's by Shiites (or vice versa)
2) Supports training children to be suicide bombers
3) Forcing women to wear full veil and slashing by razor any uncovered women
4) Killing the Jew "wherever you find him" ( I actually wrote that one down)
5) Wiping Israel off the map
6) Never touching the Jew (including shaking his hand at peace conference in Annapolis) unless you are killing him.
7) Never recognize the existence of Israel
8) Honor killings
9) Honor Rapings
10) Numerous death penalty offenses
11) Hand chopping
12) No pork
13) Jihad (one of my tenants); not to be confused with the "religion of peace"
14) Intifada
15) No voting rights for women
16) Killing christians
17) Killing Buddhists
18) Some say my religion is "hijacked" by fanatics. These people are almost always non-muslims speaking out of turn.
19) If there is such thing as a "liberal" muslim, he must die.
20) Family killing of any converts from Teddy Bear.
21) Killing homosexuals
22) All of the above are subject to interpretation by clerics -- especially if such interpretation leads to more death and destruction.
23) No cleric will ever denounce another clerics decision under 22 (so far, so good)
24) The Koran is not to be translated from Arabic
25) Stoning of adulteresses and fornicators
24) Oh, I almost forgot, and Fasting and Praying

Can I get an amen?
Love,
Teddy Bear Named Mohammed the Prophet

Everybody must get stoned.

"Gotta love how every issue delves into black persecution."

The only reason black persecution is even an issue is because someone hijacked an example about Christian silence during persecution by Christians and chose to focus on the black persecution aspect instead of the main point which was Christian apathy.

12:06,

No, what I'm saying is that the majority of Christians were either silent or in opposition to the civil rights movement.

Execute the students, too. They are the real blasphemers.

12:07: You don't know true islam. The things you mention are all fundamentalist islam and most things merely practiced in Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, indonesia, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Oman, parts of London and india.

You need to better understand Islam. How about the UAE? Dubai anyone?

"Sure people several hundreds or thousands of miles away might have whispered, 'you shouldn't do that.'"

No, there really was widespread outrage and outspoken condemnation.

And I don't fault moderate Muslims in Sudan (or anyone opposed to lynchings in areas where lynchings were prevalent) not speaking out---you're right, it's a matter of personal safety. No such personal safety issue in the U.S. today.

12:07 is ignorant

1) Islam’s teaching on homosexuality is parallel to that of Catholicism.

2) Islam does not have a “teaching” on jews. Nonetheless, the Quran does chronicle the acts and omissions of people in the biblical period. Most of who are Jewish.

3) When jews were being persecuted all over the world, Muslim countries gave them shelter and refuge. Even in the early days, when other faiths were executing jews, Muslims afforded them asylum and allowed them to practice their religion openly.

4) There is a large Jewish population in Iran and other Islamic countries. Let me stop you before you even start; these are not “self hating jews” as people characterize any jew who lives civilly with Muslims or opposes the holocaust of the Palestinian people.

5) Muslims do not hate/single out jews. The source of the friction is the way Israel kills, rapes and arbitrarily jails Palestinian people. Some of who are Christians. Muslims have a problem with Israel and the Zionist who perpetuate the Palestinian holocaust.

Please see article below from http://www.christiannewswire.com/index.php?module=releases&task=view&releaseID=372

1. Christian Newswire/ -- In response to Texas congressman Michael McCaul’s resolution on the plight of Palestinian Christians, Open Bethlehem’s chief executive Leila Sansour, a Christian from Bethlehem, has sent a letter to congress expressing her community’s shock at the gross misrepresentation of the real threat facing Christians of the Holy Land and has urged congress to pay heed to the real threat to the oldest Christian community in the world.

The letter dated 13 June states: “We are disappointed by the latest resolution drafted by congressman McCaul and congressman Crowley purporting to act on our behalf. The resolution seriously misrepresents the situation facing Christians in the Holy Land”.

The ill-conceived resolution accuses the Palestinian Authority of discrimination towards their own Christian community and blames it for the current wave of emigration of the Christians from the region. The resolution was drafted without any consultation with churches or Christian organizations in the Holy Land.

The resolution ignores the numerous calls from churches in Jerusalem and Bethlehem - and the overwhelming body of reports from international human rights organizations - that warn of the devastating effect of the Israeli system of closure, collective punishment and the construction of the wall. In the Holy City of Bethlehem, the wall forcefully expropriates most of Bethlehem’s valuable land and historic landmarks, depriving many Christian families of their homes, barring access to family and jobs in Jerusalem and all the lands that are on the other side of the wall.

By perpetuating the misconception that it is their Muslim neighbors and the Palestinian Authority who are creating this crisis, rather than policies imposed by the Israeli government, congressman McCaul is further entrenching the problems facing the Christian community rather than helping to address them.

The Open Bethlehem campaign was created to address the state of emergency in Bethlehem with full support from the Patriarchs of the churches in Jerusalem and all Bethlehem Civil institutions. His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI received the first Open Bethlehem passport, lending his support to the campaign alongside international figures such as Archbishop Desmond Tutu and President Jimmy Carter.

Open Bethlehem is encouraged by the interest shown by churches and church leaders across the US and the work of rep.Henry Hyde who has sought to bring congress’s attention to the plight of Christians in Palestine.

In a letter to the White House last Friday, Rep. Hyde stated that the Wall and expanding settlements are, “irreversibly damaging the dwindling Christian community."

The report says that "the Bethlehem area is home to over 20 Israeli settlements and there are plans to build more. The settlements and the barrier completely encircle the Christian triangle of Bethlehem, Beit Jala and Beit Sahour (Shepherd’s Field)." In addition to causing housing and land shortages, "this construction physically obstructs the Bethlehem community from its spiritual, cultural and economic lifeline in Jerusalem."

Since 2000, approx. 3,000 Christians from Bethlehem have emigrated. The UN states that: “This economic emigration will have a long-term impact on the multi-cultural character that has defined the city of Bethlehem for centuries.”

Leila Sansour says: “Palestinian Christians could very soon become unsustainable as a community. Their erosion will mean an end to sacred Christian traditions that go back to the time of Jesus, and an end to the presence of Christianity in the Holy Land. At this critical time it is imperative that Christians around the world act and speak responsibly about this issue. It is imperative that those who want to see an open, democratic and peaceful Middle East engage honestly with our plight.”

Church leaders from across the Christian denominations have criticised the resolution. In the letter to US congress Open Bethlehem has urged the formation of a fact finding mission from congress that would help representatives become closely informed about the situation.
Full text of the letter and resolution see www.openbethlehem.org

Teddy Bear Named Mohammed the Prophet is really Jewish.

The whole world should be up in arms about what Israel and the Zionist are doing in perpetuatING the Palestinian holocaust, not just muslims.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

12:13 - you just mentioned a lot of places with a lot of people. And that's what really scares me. Can you think of another example beyond Dubai as an example of progressive and moderate muslim societies? I don't think there are many.

Wow, the Spanish Inquisition. What's next, the Gunpowder Plot? Get real.

12:07, you had me up until the 'no pork' restriction...I will honor Teddy Bear Named Mohammed the Prophet with all my being so long as I can eat me some pig.

12:22: See rule 22.

You can eat pork if you agree to kill somone or blow something up.

11:42(2): I think you're right, some of the teachings of Islam might be helpful. Here are a couple of gems from the Koran:

"Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made of your religion a jest and a pastime" (5:57).

"Those that deny Our revelation We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God is mighty and wise" (4:55-56).

11:52: Despite what 12:17 says, here is one nice thing the Koran has to say about Jews:

"You see many among them making friends with unbelievers. Evil is that to which their souls prompt them. They have incurred the wrath of God and shall endure eternal torment... You will find that the most implacable of men in their enmity to the faithful are the Jews and the pagans..." (5:80-82).

Teacher allows our Muslim students to name a cute teddy bear Mohamed, the most popular name in our genocide ridden shit hole of a country. What is the appropriate response in this circumstance?

First, saw head off anyone that makes the insecure Muslims feel inadequate about the all powerful prophet.
Second, blame Israel/Christians.
Third, reaffirm that Islam is religion of peace.
Fourth, repeat.

I take back everything I said. I'm such a total tool.