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Update: What’s Up With the South Carolina Bar Exam?

south carolina map bar exam controversy.jpgRemember the alleged South Carolina bar exam shenanigans, which we discussed in these pages last week? There are some updates. See the links collected below, including a fairly barebones statement from the South Carolina Supreme Court.

Also, here’s what appears to be an interesting email that made the rounds in the wake of the results announcement. It was purportedly sent by one of the test takers who initially failed to other individuals who sat for the S.C. bar exam:

Hey Y’all,

First of all I’m so sorry about the bar exam. This sucks. I need to know if any of you failed the Wills part of the exam and your score.

My Dad and [redacted’s] dad have been on the phone with the powers that be, and if we can get a big enough group together that failed the Wills section they are going to take it to the Sup. Ct and see if they’ll regrade our exams. Apparently, the examiner for the Wills section has been asked not to come back. We have a slim chance, but I think that it is worth it.

So far I have a list of 10 people that have failed the exam. They are [names redacted]. If you all know of anyone else that failed the Wills section PLEASE let me know so that we add them to the list. The scores are important too because we need to show the court how outrageous they are. Again, I’m so sorry we all failed. I really can’t believe it.

[redacted]
Law Clerk

Please do not identify any individuals by name in the comments. Thank you.

South Carolina Bar Examination Weirdness [Feminist Law Professors]
S.C. High Court Responds to Bar Exam Flap [FITSNews]
Supreme Court Issues Statement Regarding July 2007 Bar Examination [South Carolina Judicial Department]
Bar exam appeal route urged [The State]
20 years ago, state official’s daughter got score changed [The State]

Earlier: What’s Up With the South Carolina Bar Exam?

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1 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:18 PM

First :(

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2 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:19 PM

First? ยง

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3 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:20 PM

FIRST!!!!!!!!!

now im not a virgin

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4 Posted by Cumberland Grad | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:20 PM

I failed it!

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5 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:23 PM

And people wonder why South Carolina and the like are regarded as backwards, good-ole-boy, backwater states.

Fail the bar exam? Have no fear! Just have you Daddy and his law buddies petition the Supreme Court!!!

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6 Posted by S.C. Failee | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:24 PM

I just wrote about cock fighting...

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7 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:25 PM

It's too bad. If she didn't end up passing, she might be shooting pool in a bikini right now.

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8 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:26 PM

Please DO out any of these pathetic favor grubbers who can't pass on their own two feet.

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9 Posted by anon | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:26 PM

So the two kids with parents who have pull instigated this? and they needed to legitimize it with more people? Shocking.

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10 Posted by Cumberland Grad | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:27 PM

check out my favorite professor from cumberland...

she is from south carolina

http://cumberland.samford.edu/cumberland_people.asp?ID=179

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11 Posted by Anon | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:32 PM

Cumberland grad: thanks for the mid-afternoon laugh.

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12 Posted by Anonymous | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:40 PM

Cumberland -- that is the funniest picture i've ever seen!!!

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13 Posted by anon | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:40 PM

I'm not as bothered by this as I was last week. It sounds like there might have been a real issue with how one section was scored. Especially if the scores for that section were consistently out of line with scores for the other sections, it seems like valid grounds to regrade.

The only part about this that still bothers me is my suspicion that, had the parents not had as much power and influence, an otherwise legitimate issue might not have been given a second look.

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14 Posted by anon | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:43 PM

4:40, Lat did not include the date of the excerpted email, which was at least a day before the day the Supreme Court claims to have discovered the scoring error. How is it that the children of the privileged knew that there was a problem with that section and knew that a bar examiner had been removed if the Supreme Court wouldn't know for another day (according to its own statement) that there was even a problem?

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15 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:49 PM

That's the problem with all this emailing and facebooking and iming. When I had my Dad change my bar exam score there was no email record of it. Just a few phone calls and baddabingbaddaboom, here I am.

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16 Posted by anon | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:51 PM

4:43 - no clue. i'd imagine that someone made some calls and found out from the board of law examiners that there had been issues with the T&E section and then pressured the board to take official action and report it to the Supreme Court.

but that's total speculation on my part.

what I'm saying is that I doubt these people were able to create a problem that didn't actually exist, rather than simply drawing attention to it.

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17 Posted by more peanuts - why was the thread locked? | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:08 PM

I think every employer should make sure there is a bowl of mixed nuts in the interview room -- that way peanut girl will be outted by the time anyone needs to make a hiring decision.

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18 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:11 PM

That prof parts her hair with an ax

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19 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:19 PM

people are stupid if they think this proves south carolina is backward because of this. do northerners honestly believe that they are less corrupt and children of judges or important politicians wouldn't try and use their family pull in this way? this is how the world works, to some degree, EVERYWHERE!

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20 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:26 PM

Um, if that guy needs his dad to help him out when he flunks the exam, maybe he is just not ready to be a lawyer.

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21 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:29 PM

The obvious problem is that the Supreme Court has treated this as if it were something untoward and therefore helped to perpetuate the image of this girl as an overprivileged and undeserving beneficiary of her father's position and this state as backward, good 'ol boy Dixie. Perhaps there were serious issues with the Wills section, and perhaps the examiner was somehow unqualified or unreasonable in completing his duties. But why not reveal that? And why act so defensive? In the second article from the State, the Chief Justice tears apart the newspaper for what she thinks is an underhanded implication that she might not really have been out of state when the news broke. Because the newspaper was informed by a staff member, they wrote that the Chief Justice was SAID to have been out of state. That's standard practice--they didn't or couldn't verify it, so they mark it as second hand. The Chief Justice is only adding fuel to the speculative fire.

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22 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:29 PM

the south still stinks.

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23 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:34 PM

5:19

At least we have water.

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24 Posted by anon | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:36 PM

BACK TO YOUR DOC REVIEW SON!

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25 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:41 PM

Do they make everyone wear visors (like Spurrier) during the SC bar exam?

If not, they should.

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26 Posted by Anonymous | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:43 PM

"what I'm saying is that I doubt these people were able to create a problem that didn't actually exist, rather than simply drawing attention to it."

Well yeah--the problem was that they failed the bar exam, and people with influential daddies in hick backwaters aren't supposed to fail the bar exam. That was the "problem" that their daddies drew attention to and quickly managed to have resolved. Anymore questions?

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27 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:45 PM

5:43

Only 1. Will the south rise again?

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28 Posted by better late than never | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:52 PM

Cumberland grad (aka 4:27)

Is that another illegitimate daughter of Strom Thurmond?

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29 Posted by Anon | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:57 PM

I wish y'all wouldn't make fun of her. She is my favorite skunk...i mean professor

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30 Posted by Anon | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:58 PM

I wish y'all wouldn't make fun of her. She is my favorite skunk...i mean professor

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31 Posted by anon | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:58 PM

5:43 - thanks for sharing your wisdom with me. cleared the whole thing right up.

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32 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:04 PM

wait, the peanut girl thread was locked? does that mean someone finally named names?

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33 Posted by BIGLAW Cumberland Grad | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:50 PM

Prof. Stoddard was a great writing professor and a genuinely great representation of Southern charm and wit. As for those who continue to make petty comments about the South and Cumberland, it only shows how little class the "elite" schools really have.

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34 Posted by Downinthedirtysouth | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:55 PM

Why are y'all up in arms about this? It's called white privilege y'all - happens everyday to varying degrees.

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35 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:26 PM

Hey y'all

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36 Posted by Cumberland = Unaccredited | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:06 PM

There are no CUmberlw grads in Biglaw unless you consider Atlanta Biglaw. That would be small weiner law.

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37 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:09 PM

Yeah, please unlock the peanut thread, even though I think 9:48 and I have opposite views to express.

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38 Posted by 10:06 can rim me | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:14 PM

How is DC and AM 100, Bitch?

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39 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:16 PM

There has always been affirmative action for rich, white kids. E.g. http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2007/10/author_rich_white_kids_get_mor_1.html

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40 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:25 PM

No more rhymes now, I mean it!

Anybody wanna peanut?

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41 Posted by 1014 is delusional | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:31 PM

1014 you didn't graduate from cumberland or you are lying about where you work! THERE ARE ZERO cumberland grads in biglaw.

ATLANTA IS NOT BIGLAW!!

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42 Posted by what is up with the disappearing posts? | Permalink Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:56 PM

I posted here a second ago and now it is gone. Shame on lat for regulating!!! Screw this site...i am going to xoxo

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43 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:37 AM

10:14 -

is this you?

http://www.srz.com/attorneys/attorneyDetail.aspx?attorneyId=39

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44 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:45 AM

10:14 -

is this you?

http://www.srz.com/attorneys/attorneyDetail.aspx?attorneyId=39

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45 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:20 AM

Here's what I don't understand. How would you fail the bar exam, and even if you got your score back (I guess they get it broken down by section?) come to the conclusion that you didn't just bomb the wills question, but instead that it was probably a bad question/bad grading, and so you go conduct a survey to see who else did really poorly on that question? Isn't that kind of random? I get that once you gathered the information that everyone did really poorly you might think you had a case, but I don't understand how they picked that to focus on in the first place.

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46 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:47 AM

The wills section must have seemed very screwy to set off these alarm bells. There has _always_ been affirmative action for hiring rich kids, so I guess affirmative action for admitting rich kids to the bar isn't too crazy, at least for a bar that has no respect.

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47 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:54 AM

Here's a thought, and just a hypothetical:

The wills question made no sense, was beyond the pale and obviously written by a professor with his head up his ass.

Most of us would just take the result and crawl into a hole with our tail between our legs to await the next bar exam. That is the way we were raised.

These girls were raised by parents who expect everything to go their way and are not afraid to speak out when things do not go there way. That is why there fathers have good position and can pick up the phone and call a supreme court justice.

What is the better approach? Why not expect good things to happen and assume that you should have passed. It worked for these two.

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48 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:55 AM

their fathers.

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49 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:48 PM

according to one of the linked articles, names of the 20 people who passed have already been published....

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50 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:57 PM

Anyone know what was purportedly wrong w/ the Wills question? Badly written? Badly graded? Both?

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51 Posted by ANonymous | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:23 PM

What is the better approach? Why not expect good things to happen and assume that you should have passed. It worked for these two.


Posted by: Anonymous | November 14, 2007 10:54 AM
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Uhhh . . . on what planet is petitioning the state Supreme Court for a passing grade on an exam you failed the equivalent of simply "expecting good things to happen"? You can't really be this much of a fool.

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52 Posted by anon | Permalink Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:02 PM

4:25 . . . you wouldn't want to see this chick shooting pool in a bikini. . . South Carolina is a safer place now that she'll have to wear a suit

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53 Posted by SC Attorney | Permalink Friday, November 16, 2007 11:48 AM

...And the SC Supreme Court has STILL not given a reason or explanation for these changes other than that a "scoring error" was reported after Representative Harrison (who is the Chairman of the SC Judicial Board who APPOINTS the judges in SC) called the Supreme Court and Head of the Board of Examiners.

This thing is really going to blow up.

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