MPRE Results Are Out: Open Thread
Congratulations to everyone who passed the MPRE. Results were made available online earlier this afternoon.
As for those of you who failed, we could subject you to some good-natured ribbing in these pages. But we will refrain.
Instead, we’re delegating that task to the commenters, on this open thread. As one reader noted in an email, “people love comparing scores and condescending to, or commiserating with, those who failed.”
The MPRE: Multistate Professional Responsibility Examination [official website]
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uno biatch
first and passed rt
FIRST!
116. First?
4th!
ain't being an unethical snake grand? :-P
Anyone who scored over 100 needed to spend less time studying. You can take the test by accident and still pass for every state.
First time, 123! YAY :)
458 failed!
seriously, if you failed this test you need to be hit in the head with a tack hammer because you are a RETARD.
i wish excess points from the MPRE could be transferred to the MBE...those faulkers
I spent half of an afternoon studying for this.
If you failed, you are a moron. And unethical too.
wait until the rest of the bar rolls around. The MPRE is cake compared to that!
123!
Agreed with 4:58. This is not the LSAT -- there is no honor or benefit in getting a good score. Your MPRE score is not something to brag about.
In fact, the higher your score is, the more of a douche you are for having wasted your time studying so much.
The end is near!
How good is a 130?
did people find that this exam was much harder than all practice exams and not the easiest test in the world that everyone said it was? that is what everyone i know said. now i am posing the question to the legal world. i got a 109.
The MPRE can be tricky because you can be TOO ethical.
I knew an editor of the Yale Law Journal who failed. I think that is what happened to her. She was "too" ethical, i.e., always chose the "safest" option (not zealous enough as an advocate).
The MPRE has nothing to do with how ethical you are. A bunch of subjective M/C questions prove nothing.
5:09 - absolutely; I hope BarBri's bar prep is better tailored to the test.
i didn't study the first time and failed by 1 point.
5:09 it was only harder because it mattered....i'm just sorry i spent more than 5 hours studying.
5:09 - Agree.
5:09...it was harder than any practice exam i saw...given that i was usually practicing about 100, and got a 75 on the real thing. :-P on the practice tests i felt like i was guessing half the time...on the real one, it was like guessing on everything.
To 5:09--I agree. This MPRE was tricky. I aced a few practice test but had to guess about half the questions on the actual MPRE because I had no clue. Thought I would flunk but I got 106.
To everybody who makes ethics jokes vis-a-vis the MPRE: professional responsibility is NOT the same thing as ethics, and if you don't know that, you are an idiot.
Passed. I'm glad I studied just so I don't have to do it again.
To 5:09--I agree. This MPRE was tricky. I aced a few practice test but had to guess about half the questions on the actual MPRE because I had no clue. Thought I would flunk but I got 106.
To everybody who makes ethics jokes vis-a-vis the MPRE: professional responsibility is NOT the same thing as ethics, and if you don't know that, you are an eejit.
I am interested in a correlation of LSAT scores and MPRE scores. I know, you can argue 1000 different factors (how much you studied, etc. etc), but I just wanted to get about 10-20 scores to see if there is anything there. Please don't lie on either score as this is obviously anonymous.
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5:16 - I was 165/142
130 niggaz!!
5:16, mine was 168/103
LSAT/MPRE
1. 161/123
2. 165/142 (from 5:17)
3. 169/123
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I studied for 3.5 hours and got a 120, I left thinking I definitely failed. My friend (also at Columbia) took the Barbri course, studied for 8 hours on his own and failed. Its a weird test with seemingly arbitrary answers.
No matter how much people complain about BarBri for the NY bar, they did a much better job preparing us for that, than they did for the MPRE.
5:16: 171/95
5:16 - i was 176/105...
no, let's just list our penis size to shoe size ratio instead, that will be a more telling comparison, I'll start.
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5:16: 170/75
150/150. In job applications I list "being ethical" as my best quality. For my worst quality I usually write either "lack of intelligence" or "being too ethical."
162/109
158/89- I barely studied for the lsat, and didn't study at all for the MPRE. I did get an A in PR the previous semester, however. The toughest part about the MPRE were the excessively long question stems, designed to waste your time. I avoided that problem by answering the questions while only lightly skimming the facts. I got out of the MPRE in 45 minutes and the proctor asked me if I was giving up.
you can get a high score on the MPRE by accident, not because you are intentionally overstudying.
163/127.
I already know of 2 people from my school that studied but failed.
158/89- I barely studied for the lsat, and didn't study at all for the MPRE. I did get an A in PR the previous semester, however. The toughest part about the MPRE was the excessively long question stems, designed to waste your time. I avoided that problem by answering the questions while only lightly skimming the facts. I got out of the MPRE in 45 minutes and the proctor asked me if I was giving up.
152/133
170/100
152/133
5:21 apparently did very poor on either the LSAT or MPRE or both!
163/127.
I already know of 2 people from my school that studied but failed.
152/133
162/109
175/123
you can get a high score on the MPRE by accident, not because you are intentionally overstudying.
170/100
5:24:
got lucky on the LSAT. in reality, i'm a fucking moron.
don't care about the lsat correlation thing. quit trying to look for correlations. my cranium and dick are bigger than all y'all's.
172/92
I am highly unethical--I was ducking out to drink during the breaks at the five hour session!
This thread is lame. In the spirit of the upcoming birthday of baby jesus, can we please talk about DC BONUSES?????
I'm waiting for the next post in which Lat reports Cardozo's standing relative to its NY counterparts with respect to MPRE results.
Does anyone know a way to view who passed/failed if you didn't take it? I want to mock/congratulate someone.
This thread is lame. In the spirit of the upcoming birthday of baby jesus, can we please talk about DC BONUSES?????
170/93
174/92
5:24:
got lucky on the LSAT. in reality, i'm a fucking moron.
ok that is enough scores. It is clear that there are too many other factors. R^2 is very very low!
174/147 from a state school...take that prestige whores
5:16 - 171/106
I studied hard for the LSAT b/c I knew it mattered. I studied just enough for the MPRE not to worry for four to five weeks about whether I passed.
here is your correlation. people with high lsat scores probably didnt study much and therefore barely passed. people with low lsat scores feared failing and overstudied and therefore did much better.
Does anyone know a way to view who passed/failed if you didn't take it? I want to mock/congratulate someone.
5:29 has the best score so far. I'm sure everyone knows at least one person who did really well on their LSAT but failed the MPRE at least the first time around. There is no correlation.
174/147 from a state school...take that prestige whores
March- You need to steal their login/password, there is no single sheet with everyone's name on it.
164/123
172/99
164/123...and 7"/11.5
157/145
159/110 (with three hours of sleep the night before an a lot of booze) I think I sobered up about half way through the test!
174/147 from a state school...take that prestige whores
Posted by: content 1L | December 3, 2007 05:34 PM
Aren't you not allowed to take the MPRE until *after* your 1L year? I call BS.
163/124
I claim the highest differential b/w LSAT and MPRE (assuming MPRE qualifies for any state).
171/85.
175/99
But I finished the exam is a little over an hour so don't I get a bonus for speed or something?
lol, being just slightly below the ethical mean is awesome.
159/110 (with three hours of sleep the night before and a lot of booze) I think I sobered up about half way through the test!
172/82 (good enough for my state)
"people with high lsat scores probably didnt study much and therefore barely passed. people with low lsat scores feared failing and overstudied and therefore did much better."
That is exactly right. I studied a lot for LSAT, barely studied for MPRE.
159/110 (with three hours of sleep the night before and a lot of booze) I think I sobered up about half way through the test!
The MPRE is the most pointless debacle I've ever experienced. I studied for three hours and passed by 2 points (87). All that means is that I should have studied for 2:45.
What a crock.
DC BONUSES!
I did not study one minute. I assumed I failed. I got a 99. Though I already took a state bar with some overlap.
I did not study one minute. I assumed I failed. I got a 99. Though I already took a state bar with some overlap.
When I'm President I am going to raise the passing grade on the MPRE to 90% of a perfect score (I'm too busy campaigning to find out what the max score is right now). I am also going to start a new program where I give huge subsidies to anyone that can't get into law school which I like to call "Buying Votes from People Who Couldn't Get Into Law School", and I am going to pay for it with a special tax on lawyers.
169/123
157/138 - I apparently over-studied for the MPRE and didn't prep enough for the LSAT
165 LSAT (in 1997)/?? MPRE in 2000 (passed for NY, whatever it was at the time)/passed NY Bar 2001 FWIW/106 MPRE 2007 (applying to another jurisdiction)
165/137
156/103. I was worried there for a bit.
181/88
oh, and 8"/7.5
I can't remember what I scored, nor could I care less.
One of our professors told us that the secret is to always pick the 2nd most ethical thing to do.
Great that a profession that prides itself on ethics tests newbies with a multiple choice test that everyone blows off.
The MPRE sucks just as much as the MBE, and for the same reasons. See, e.g., trick multiple-choice questions beginning with phrases such as "Yes, but" and "No, however."
Fortunately I didn't have to take it when I was admitted.
177/99
170/110
170/107
161/137
I studied about 4 hours for the MPRE (i.e. I took two practice tests and went over the answers) and got a 132. If you failed this test, you fail at life.
I hereby award this thread the Iron Cross, First Class, for having the most boring comments ever.
Congratulations
200/190
Ok, Ok, the 10-20 request is fulfilled. This is the worst thread ever.
I studied way too much and felt I failed for sure. Does my 130 count for anything? I didn't think so.
One of my classmates scored 147 -- does anyone actually score higher than that?
158/144
182 LSAT, 151 MPRE
Shoe size = 10
Penis = 18" flaccid
Testicles = 20 oz. each.
Makes for one hell of a pair of "Arabian Goggles" (see urbandictionary for definition).
Please discuss.
169/103
What is the minimum for NY again? 86?
5:09- you make the best point.
I'm ok, I passed w/ a 103 but still pissed at Barbri (and myself, for scoring more than I needed to).
I took the BarBri "course" (ie that afternoon lecture) and read the long outline in that book.
Also took 3 practice exams. Total study time- 25hrs.
There was little to no resemblance between the Barbri course material and the test I took.
That being said, who does the best MBE prep.
6:50:
85 is the minimum to pass, not 86.
If you got an 85, you are okay.
What is the minimum for California?
I heard that NY will be 86 next year - is tihs true? It may make a 1-question difference for those on the borderline.
I had never studied in the States and passed MPRE first time after attending the bar bri lecture and taking two mock tests. I found the actual exam to be harder than the bar bri test papers.
If you wrote your LSAT and MPRE score you should run upstairs crying and hang yourself
168/116
A moderately intelligent 5th grader could probably pass the MPRE.
105, 3 hours prep with PLI's free outline. (Fuck barbri)
NY to interesting comments
myspace suicidal:
nah. i've got finals to take. i've at least got the decency not to hang myself until after those are done.
6-1/2" and size 10.5 shoe
Hillary Clinton / 5:52 PM, nobody cares what you think about this. You flunked the D.C. bar exam!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/24/AR2007052402479_2.html
California requires only 76!
176/120. Studied a decent bit for LSAT (though only with a review book), studied only the night before for MPRE. Though I had already taken legal ethics, which helped a little bit.
166/99
Anyone know what percentage of people fail the MPRE? It's gotta be low...
69/69
165/123
Did ANYONE fail, or know someone who did? If so, was it just an egregious lack of prep?
What does it say that someone several semesters into law school actually still remembers what their LSAT score was?
138th!!!!!!!!
5' 4.5" / 6.5 (shoe size) / 116 (MPRE)
You know what, your posts are embarrassing. The MPRE is an important test and if you didn't know this because you were busy calculating salaries: the intention of it is a commitment to ethics and good morals.
Are you all really the "bar" that I should be looking forward to join? I hope not. I hope that you're a small sample of the group of professionals representing yourselves only.
You're not a hotshot of you did well on the MPRE. And if you really did do well, it wouldn't be something you should flaunt.
Grow up, and start acting professionally.
8:04, good point!!!! i can't believe how childish all these posts are (not unlike comments on other issues on this site)
173/109
Ethics Tests in the Legal Profession
Vanessa Merton
The Hastings Center Report, Vol. 13, No. 3 (Jun., 1983), pp. 27-31
LSAT 172, MPRE 82. Really. I didn't prepare much for the LSAT at all (less than a month, about 5 practice tests), and I spent about 2 weeks reviewing outlines and doing practice tests (4 of them) for the MPRE. I am beyond help.
Do you need to take the MPRE to waive into the DC bar?
Ky only requires a 75
8:04 must be a Professional Responsibility professor...MPRE important...what a joke!
You need 79 for CA and 85 for NY. As of January 2008, they're both raising to 86 (the CA board of examiners wanted to raise it to 100).
Yeah, I just barely made it for CA, my state (I'm the 82 guy above). It's just embarrassing to have studied way more than everyone I've heard about and still basically failed under a lot of jurisdictions' standards (and CA's next year!).
If I hear some variation on "I read half an outline and only bothered to answer twelve questions on the actual exam, and I got a 110!" one more time, I'm going to explode in a giant unethical fireball.
get over it. it's just the fucking MPRE. i really feel sorry those running around like whores chanting your scores. wait for the BAR. we'll see how big you dicks are then.
8:04- we laugh at your schtick. Please keep it up
163/109
Got a 99. Skimmed the "concise outline" of BarBri and took the short test at the back of the book. Was positive I failed coming out--it was a lot harder than I thought. Ecstatic with my 99!
8:50: don't believe everything they say. everyone likes to pretend they didn't study for the MPRE. it just sounds cooler. truth is, we all studied. it is not common sense stuff. you actually had to learn some rules, impossible to do in 3 hours.
I got a 172/82 too. At least I know there is another freak out there like me. See you at the March exam.
I got a 103. I am so fucking ethical I can hardly stand it.
9:01, speak for yourself. I studied by reading the Barbri outline during the ride to the test and passed.
9:13, impossible. i mean it sounds cool and all. don't get me wrong. but impossible.
9:13 is pushing it. you would not be able to read the Barbri outline in one ride. where did you ride from?
9:01, honestly, i borrowed someone's barbri book and read the 30 page outline thing once the night before, and that was it - i got a 116.
9:19, that sounds more plausible than reading it during the ride to the test while doing shots
ATL Readers--
I am of counsel at an international firm, an associate professor of law and economic theory at a nationally-ranked law school, and a freelance journalist. I recently have commented on legal issues for for the New York Times, the Washington Post, the New York Law Journal, and the Chicago Tribune.
In February 2008, my article will be published which runs a comparative analysis of MPRE scores and post-law school employment. We used a national sample group of 2,043 law graduates who graduated from 95 law schools. I found (with a MOE of +/- 3.2), and what may be of particular interest to ATL readers, is that: (1) 92% of associates at 200+ attorney law firms obtained a "passing" MPRE score for their jurisdiction of admission on their first try; (2) 89% of judicial law clerks (state and federal, combined) obtained a "passing" score for their jurisdiction of admission on their first try; and (3) 58% of "contract attorneys" obtained a "passing" score for their jurisdiction of admission on their first try.
I will post a link to the draft article in February, and the final article in April.
Enough of this kindergarden shit! What's the word on WH DC bonuses?????
I was in the car for over an hour (I live in Los Angeles), and I wasn't driving of course. I didn't finish the outline, but I still passed, although I don't remember my score (this was 2 years ago).
Enough of this kindergarden shit! What's the word on WH DC bonuses?????
I should also mention that I studied in the hall before we went into the testing room. Still, though, I didn't crack the book until I was in the car.
THERE IS NO WAY YOUR STATS ARE CORRECT. NO REASONABLE PERSON WOULD BELIEVE THAT 58% OF CONTRACT ATTORNEYS PASSED THE MPRE THEIR FIRST TIME.
Perhaps it was a typo? Did you mean 5.8 or .58?
Proud member of the "Elite 89%"
--COA Clerk
To 9:31 (#1):
Interesting. Was this purely quantitative or did you run a qualitative analysis as well? Why do you believe this to be the case?
Fellow law/math geek
Wait a minute--it's actually possible to fail the MPRE?
Is going to 86?
79 and doin' fine in Cali... at least for this test... good thing I didn't wait until next time!
175 LSAT / 87 MPRE
Studied for 3-4 hours, took half a practice test. Even with the minimum score hike in a bunch of states, I still have a comfortable 1 point buffer. And that's the way I like it.
179/119 and and a 9 inch schlong - talk about symmetry...
i got a 123 without even reading the rules or taking PR.
if you failed this test, you should kill yourself.
i got drunk the prior night. woke up at 1pm and realized i missed the test. i watched some porn. and i still passed the test.
Guys in my high school had comfortable 1 point buffers all the time, it was no big deal.
161/116
I think this thread demonstrates that the bulk of idiotic comments on ATL originate from law students.
I wish Lat would post site statistics and hit origins. I think it would be very informative for employers.
11:23: You're surprised that a comment thread from a post about the MPRE is populated by law students?
I guess I'm just not seeing why this is so offensive. If you don't want to read people discussing MPRE results, don't read the comments from the post about "MPRE Results Are Out." Me, I don't want to read about salaries in New York. Accordingly, you won't find me in the daily New York salary post complaining about how associates are tactlessly talking about New York salaries.
11:23: You're surprised that a comment thread from a post about the MPRE is populated by law students?
I guess I'm just not seeing why this is so offensive. If you don't want to read comments about people's MPRE results, don't read the comments from the post called "MPRE Results Are Out." Me, I don't want to read about salaries in New York. Accordingly, you won't find me in the daily New York salary post complaining about how associates are tactlessly talking about New York salaries.
11:29: right on!
And yet another late night at the office. Where the hell is the slowdown when you need one?!!
Adolf Hitler took the MPRE. Do you want to be like adolf hitler?
152/120
152/120
184th!!! And guess what? Twenty years after law school it really doesn't matter. Dick size/shoe size guy had it right. GET A LIFE!!!!!!
Ola Chicas:)
177/126 and a D cup size.
10:22pm and 7:39am should get together and produce a porno flick..
6.2" / 13
All you people REMEMBER what you got on the MPRE? Do you remember your MBE score too? How about state bar score?
I got the results, saw that I passed, and then forgot that number, along with all other numbers that are irrelevant to my life, like how many apples I ate last week!
great post 8:39, & 8:53...a lot of us on here just received our scores last night. If we forgot them already, then (like someone who failed the test) we should hang ourselves.
If any, what state bars do not accept an MPRE score transfer?
9:02,
Most states accept an MPRE transfer score, if they require the test.
Just my $.02, but this test is a joke and merely a way for the folks in Iowa to generate revenue. Like 8:53, I saw that the number was more than enough to pass in any state and promptly stopped caring what it was.
Similar to the bar exam, this is a minimum competency test. Shooting for high score just seems like a waste of time and effort.
I weep for the future of the profession..
LAST!
Even more last!
What do people think are the percentiles of the following:
85
100
115
130
140
5:16 - 150/120
5:21 - 6.5 cut/9.5
An 82. Shouldn't have been at Bungalo 8 till 4:30 am the week before or the Halloween rager. Next time I'll actually do some practice problems in the BarBri book. What a disaster to have to take this POS again. I hear I missed by 1, possibly 2 questions (NY).
I went to the barbri review, skimmed the short outline the morning of the test, and passed comfortably.
Should've slept in.
"I think this thread demonstrates that the bulk of idiotic comments on ATL originate from law students."
"11:23: You're surprised that a comment thread from a post about the MPRE is populated by law students?"
Someone failed either Logic 101 or Reading Comprehension 101.
Happy I passed. Didn't do as well as I would have liked, but as my friend said, "this isn't one of those exams in which how much you pass by matters".
Since the bulk of these idiotic posts, e.g., 165/110, are undoubtedly from ignorant law students…you might as well include the amount of debt you are in. After all, you are going to be entering a profession that requires you to work a huge amount of hours for “decent” pay. Hopefully you will all be out of debt within five years.
Here is a question, how do you all feel about 26-27 year old Assoicate/VP’s at Goldman Sachs making $400-900K without $100K of law school debt? Do you still think that the 165/110 is a clear indicator of your genius?
Of course people will remember these numbers for the rest of their lives. Scores are what constitute their self-worth, and if you don't have a good memory, good luck passing the bar. I remember my own scores, those of my friends and enemies, and those of famous people blogged about on ATL.
Few who just took the MPRE and failed will admit that here.
I took it in 2005 and got a 66. No one cares now, and whenever the MPRE comes up at work, I'm the first to offer that I failed it. It's good for a laugh.
"THERE IS NO WAY YOUR STATS ARE CORRECT. NO REASONABLE PERSON WOULD BELIEVE THAT 58% OF CONTRACT ATTORNEYS PASSED THE MPRE THEIR FIRST TIME.
Perhaps it was a typo? Did you mean 5.8 or .58?
Proud member of the "Elite 89%"
--COA Clerk
Posted by: RESPONSE TO 9:31 | December 3, 2007 09:36 PM "
Contract attorneys have to be ADMITTED in order to be staffed on a project. I can't wait until the next round of associate layoffs where former Biglaw litigation associates are sitting up the asses of career contract attorneys, fighting tooth-and-nail for $35/hour projects. It happened in the late 90s/early 2000s, only then the going rate was $21/hr.
I just got my results. I got a 92, but this was my second time taking it. The first time, I got a 69 (which is considered failing in every jurisdiction). I bombed it the first time because I blew it off and didn't study, having heard for my classmates that the MPRE is a joke. The MPRE can be hard in that weird kind of way, since it's an easy thing to blow off.
"Unhappy? Self-Critical? Maybe You’re Just a Perfectionist
By BENEDICT CAREY
Published: December 4, 2007
Just about any sports movie, airport paperback or motivational tape delivers a few boilerplate rules for success. Believe in yourself. Don’t take no for an answer. Never quit. Don’t accept second best.
It’s hard to argue with those maxims. They seem self-evident — if not written into the Constitution, then at least part of the cultural water supply that irrigates everything from halftime speeches to corporate lectures to SAT coaching classes.
Yet several recent studies stand as a warning against taking the platitudes of achievement too seriously. The new research focuses on a familiar type, perfectionists, who panic or blow a fuse when things don’t turn out just so. The findings not only confirm that such purists are often at risk for mental distress — as Freud, Alfred Adler and countless exasperated parents have long predicted — but also suggest that perfectionism is a valuable lens through which to understand a variety of seemingly unrelated mental difficulties, from depression to compulsive behavior to addiction.
Some researchers divide perfectionists into three types, based on answers to standardized questionnaires: Self-oriented strivers who struggle to live up to their high standards and appear to be at risk of self-critical depression; outwardly focused zealots who expect perfection from others, often ruining relationships; and those desperate to live up to an ideal they’re convinced others expect of them, a risk factor for suicidal thinking and eating disorders.
“It’s natural for people to want to be perfect in a few things, say in their job — being a good editor or surgeon depends on not making mistakes,” said Gordon L. Flett, a psychology professor at York University and an author of many of the studies. “It’s when it generalizes to other areas of life, home life, appearance, hobbies, that you begin to see real problems.”
Unlike people given psychiatric labels, however, perfectionists neither battle stigma nor consider themselves to be somehow dysfunctional. On the contrary, said Alice Provost, an employee assistance counselor at the University of California, Davis, who recently ran group therapy for staff members struggling with perfectionist impulses. “They’re very proud of it,” she said. “And the culture highly values and reinforces their attitudes.”
Consider a recent study by psychologists at Curtin University of Technology in Australia, who found that the level of “all or nothing” thinking predicted how well perfectionists navigated their lives. The researchers had 252 participants fill out questionnaires rating their level of agreement with 16 statements like “I think of myself as either in control or out of control” and “I either get on very well with people or not at all.”
The more strongly participants in the study thought in this either-or fashion, the more likely they were to display the kind of extreme perfectionism that can lead to mental health problems.
In short, these are people who not only swallow many of the maxims for success but take them as absolutes. At some level they know that it’s possible to succeed after falling short (build on your mistakes: another boilerplate rule). The trouble is that falling short still reeks of mediocrity; for them, to say otherwise is to spin the result.
Never accept second best. Always be true to yourself.
Ms. Provost said those in her program at U.C. Davis often displayed symptoms of obsessive-compulsive disorder — another risk for perfectionists. They couldn’t bear a messy desk. They found it nearly impossible to leave a job half-done, to do the next day. Some put in ludicrously long hours redoing tasks, chasing an ideal only they could see.
As an experiment, Ms. Provost had members of the group slack off on purpose, against their every instinct. “This was mostly in the context of work,” she said, “and they seem like small things, because what some of them considered failure was what most people would consider no big deal.”
Leave work on time. Don’t arrive early. Take all the breaks allowed. Leave the desk a mess. Allow yourself a set number of tries to finish a job; then turn in what you have.
“And then ask: Did you get punished? Did the university continue to function? Are you happier?” Ms. Provost said. “They were surprised that yes, everything continued to function, and the things they were so worried about weren’t that crucial.”
The British have a saying that encourages people to show their skills while mocking the universal fear of failure: Do your worst. If you can’t tolerate your worst, at least once in a while, how true to yourself can you be? "
Didn't read all the comments but 171/109. IMHO the correlations should be high LSAT / low MPRE cause the ONLY thing that matters about the MPRE is that you score high enough to take the bar you want. Spending more time on it than strictly necessary is poor time management and probably why those people didn't score v. high on the LSAT! Only reason to work hard is for commensurate reward.
I don't know how much more evidence we need to show that people who go to law school are complete losers, but this thread has to be pretty definitive.
Come to think of it, this thread isn't much different than most threads on this website.
Congratulations to everyone who managed high scores on their standardized tests. The only explanation is that you are really brilliant.
120. Studied 8 hours (Bar/Bri book) while watching football in a sports bar on Sat/Sun a week before the exam.
I passed, but only because I lived by my motto, "Imposible is nothing, it is just a word thrown around by people who do not have the will to succeed."
all the nappy headed cumberland law students failed
All the comments saying that scoring high is retarded are retarded, because they assume that one studied a lot to score high. Got 120, and studied 8 hours while watching football in a sports bar. And the vast majority of that 8 hours was spent only watching football and drinking beer. Studied mostly during commercials and halftime. Better results on the LSAT (99th%) using similar study techniques.
161/125 - sat in on the live BarBri MPRE lecture, and that's it.
So it's bad to do well and people who do well are losers... OMG, I hope you don't bring that attitude to work. Actually, I hope you do - more work for the rest of us.
So it's bad to do well and people who do well are losers... OMG, I hope you don't bring that attitude to work. Actually, I hope you do - more work for the rest of us.
So it's bad to do well and people who do well are losers... OMG, I hope you don't bring that attitude to work. Actually, I hope you do - more work for the rest of us.
Wait, this test was about ethics?!?
It only takes minimal studying effort (but some) to pass the MPRE. Learn some rules. Take some practice exams. Pass the test. It's not rocket science.
6:54 - I don't know what Bar/Bri course you took, but I showed up, grabbed the book and left the lecture. I skimmed the book and took the practice tests... some of the MPRE questions were practically verbatim from the practice tests. Passed easily.
170/I don't remember because it DOESN'T MATTER.
I passed (perhaps with 90-something score) and didn't spend much time studying and that all that matters.
158/127...Studied for MPRE, winged the LSAT. Too poor at this point to pay for a retake of the test...and didn't want to waste more of my firm's Bar Prep/Moving expenses stipend on another test fee.
176/85.
Good thing I'm not taking the bar in NY or UT.
172/84
The only explanation is that law school made me stupider.
171/105.
Didn't study for the MPRE, but took it after the California bar.
Got 82 on the first try and 85 on the second. Some questions are really weird and you will not find the answers in Barbrbri book. Barbri questions are much easier that the actual ones.
163/109 Studied a few hours two days prior to the exam. Probably about 10-15 hours total (closer to ten). I did one practice test on the NCBE website (much more of an accurate gauge of the difficulty level of the MPRE)- http://www.ncbex2.org/php/mpre/. Did some practice questions in the Barbri book. Its a tricky test so it does require a little bit of studying, but common sense always leads you to the right answer. I did fail it the first time-I got a 72-but I was having a horrible morning the day of the test (the garage door wasnt opening and I had to wait for 20 minutes until it opened) and I actually studied ALOT more the first time I took it, oddly.
Graduated from a Canadian law school (with no PE course). Printed out the freempre.com and skimmed part of it morning of. Um, 79.
What book (that is available from, say, Amazon) would you use to review for this? I may not have read the whole freempre.com outline, but I'm pretty sure better materials are available.
154/130 - after 3 or 4 practice exams and worthless pieper session! Ethics = joke... failure should disqualify you from sitting for the bar!
Worst thread ever.
169/144 Yeah, I studied. Mea culpa.