Guess He’s No Longer ‘The Thugs’ Lawyer’
Last year we wrote about Peter “P’Ta Mon” John, whom we named an ATL Lawyer of the Day. In an innovative advertisement, Peter John dubbed himself “The Thugs Lawyer,” with the following motto: “No Evidence — No Conviction!”
Now, a quick update. The latest edition of the Baton Rouge phone book contains Mr. John’s newest ad (see below). He no longer calls himself “The Thugs Lawyer,” but he still uses the “no evidence — no conviction” slogan. And he’s offering an “Expungement Special,” for just $500! (Plus filing fees.)
P.S. We don’t know about how state systems deal with this issue. But in the federal system, in most circuits, expungement is a tough row to hoe. We worked on one such case in the Third Circuit: United States v. Rowlands (PDF; via Third Circuit Blog).
No jurisdiction to expunge criminal records in absence of challenge to underlying conviction [Third Circuit Blog]
Earlier: Lawyer of the Day: Peter ‘P’Ta Mon’ John
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First
these pretzels are making me FIRSTY!!
He drives a way better car than I do
this guy is truly awesome
Back at my high school, guys used to get expungement for $500 plus filing fees. It was no big deal.
Its a lease, I'm sure.
Do you think "The 'Q' Firm" is hiring laterals or are too busy recruiting clerks right now?
Trial LawyerS??? Does he have a split personality or is there actually someone out there who works with him? Loyola2L, maybe?
What is the genesis of the "Back at my high school" comments?
Thugs need love, too
Phil Collins was in Genesis. Peter Gabriel, too.
This is ridiculously ghetto (and I am black).
However, before anyone starts using this as an example to justify racism, let's just remember that a white lawyer at Cravath sleeps with thirteen year-olds...
That is all.
Expungement sounds nice, but I'm really more in the market for a luxury fitness boot camp. Does anyone know where I can find one of those?
This guy is a badass. The Jamaican flag belt buckle is a great touch.
I don't know, I think it is just an SLK-class. Those things start at $45k. I would be impressed if he were driving an SLR-class, though.
4:27:
Really? Are you not doing that which you are admonishing?
I left my criminal practice because of guys like this. That said, this made my day. WHAAAAAAAAAAT? WHAAAAAAAAT? OK!
either way it is better than my ride. (the F train)
Uh, just because some there is no federal jurisdiction over (most) expungments doesn't mean that they're not alive and well under state law.
White Girls with P'Ta Mon John
lol at 4:41. So on the money.
O-KAY!!!!!!!!!
ahahah P'Tah Mon John HIMSELF posed a comment when he was lawyer of the day
Keep it in perspective. The F train is a far more expensive piece of machinery than any Mercedes. You are rollin' big time!
Just be gentle; I'm delicate like a flower.
This guy is the shit.
That guy stole my look!
Why is he ":trial lawyers" plural
Dear ATL readers, which would you advise for an aspiring associate (T5-Q Firm): sophisticated cross-border transactional work or complex bet-the-company litigation?
Q Firm associates to 9mm!
"I expunge ya bumbaclot conviction"
expungements of arrests not resulting in conviction are easy to get under Louisiana law, and furthermore if you are sentenced to probation you can get misdemeanors, and some felonies, expunged after you complete your sentence.
And that's just what's in the law; if you know the judge you can get an even better deal than that.
Glass House Resident:
Not at all, just pointing out that stupidity comes in all colors. I didn't say he was a child molester because he was white.
5:31 why oh why did he have to be Jamaican?
The J-flag belt buckle and necklace is priceless! My people, my people.
Stop hating...:
I agree 100% that stipidity comes in all colors. I took issue with your post partly because you say, "This is ridiculously ghetto (and I am black)." Can you only say that because you are black? Does your conclusion that it is ghetto carry more weight because you are black? Can people who aren't black conclude that it is ghetto without being considered racist?
These are the questions that your post raised in my mind because it seemed to me that nobody had brought race into the evaluation of P'Ta Mon John (who I will definitely call if I'm ever arrested in Baton Rouge and/or need a reggae act at a party there) until you did. That was my point. Your's, that stupidity comes in all colors, is well taken.
04:39, agreed. 4:27, I am also black, and none of the comments preceeding yours had anything to do about race.
Too touchy.
Just because he's black, and you're black, and I'm black, we don't have to internalize crazy, stupid, weird, etc. things done by black people. We carry a heavy burden, I know, as evidenced by your knee jerk reaction to tell the world that he doesn't represent all of us.
Hey this guy ripped off my idea. Check it out, I'm way tougher then P'Ta Mon.
http://www.mendozalawfirm.com/EXPOAD.jpg
I interviewed with this guy for a summer 2L associate position.
7:32,
Your website is by Thomson/West?
"This FirmSite® is designed and hosted by Thomson FindLaw."
yoges in on this guy!
Does P'Ta Mon have a website? Please tell me he does.
From his Lawyer of the Day comment:
Thank you all'z for your interest and commentary. Please see my other indulgences at www.myspace/ok2gutta. for all the haterz' Yall making me rich. Go to Billboard.com and type in 2Gutta and see how many timez my artist charted on billboard. You see the streets have taken over the board rooms and all the limits we forced into as a people have been compromized. Now you are spending your time elevating my ideas and making it possible for me to represent more drug users who want to shine and become legit businessmen. I believe in the worth of the drug dealer. I also believe in our system of justice. Thank you for your comment the person who commented about the LSU Law degree that I am some how tainting. I am not tainting anything I am painting the constution BLACK! P'Ta Mon: oneallegal.com oktopusgroup.com www.ptamon.com Thank You for your honesty!!
Posted by: P'Ta Mon | December 9, 2007 01:28 PM
He's from St. Croix, not from Jamaica ... that's what we call false advertising! The rest of that ad, is all true ...
Latty boy, you Federal types are so cloistered.
Every state has some sort of mechanism in place to expunge one's state arrest record. Some states allow expungement only if the charges were dropped or dismissed or the defendant was acquitted, while other states (like Louisiana, apparently) are far more generous.
Despite the fact that he wears a Jamaican Flag belt. He is not Jamaican, please note where Lat stated that he is from ---St. Croix. HE IS NOT JAMAICAN
This is the way to go- this guy actually practices law defeding people- the constitutionally contemplated role for attorneys- then he kicks back and smokes weed! I want to work with him.
Who wants to represent some articles of incorporation and a balance sheet when you can represent real people? As soon as I pay my loans off I'm going out to get mine like p'ta mon here. I don't care if it means I won't be able to afford a 3-series and an entry-level Rolex for a few years. Money leaves you empty and sad anyway.
Screwface is alive? I thought Steven Seagal got rid of him in Marked For Death?
Where did he go to Law School and Business School?
Where did he go to Law School and Business School?
LSU Law. Not sure about b-school.
Hello all. This is P'Ta Mon updating you. My ad is not a PIG wearing LipSTICK if you know what that means. I am blessed with many gifts and I use them. I am God's child. with half my brain tied behind my back I can out run, work, and think you who are caught up in negativity. The MBA came from UNO. My latest song which is feature in Radio & Records is www.myspace.com/ptamon You will enjoy it. Some like the black 2L that will never earn enought money to change his skin color like mike J, will find something negative to say because u hate what i am... what i want to be :) Me. I have a great retirement. its called royalties. How about you. think of your dreams and your joy before you get caught up in being critical of mine. Live life to the fullest. P'Ta Mon. Now TAKE IT EASY & Have a nice day.
(Mike J) means Michael Jackson sensitive black 2L
wwww.myspace.com/ptamon
www.youtube.com [search thugs lawyer]
www.photobucket.com/ptamon
and you will get the whole pic. This is America: Live your dream. Dream, do, live.... From P'Ta Mon
Thank you all for your attention.
& David Lat. Thank you for taking time to look at my way of doing things.
LOL @ Niggers!
Always trying to get over on the white man!