did anyone notice that he now runs a pornographic website which, the description suggests, features pictures of his girlfriend?

I'm sensationalizing it a little, but not much.

Lat, can you please make a thread about bar applications? I know some people requested this a couple of days ago. I'd like a place to discuss this with people who have been through the process... for instance, if I lived somewhere for one month and can't find the address, what should I do? Tell the bar that I lived in this place in XYZ city for one month but can't reasonably find the address?

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:FJYMzVShmUUJ:207.41.15.194/341/010308_07_batv7.341.php+%22david+j.+wold%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Bankruptcy is a bitch.

This is really just cheap advertising for his porn site:
"Since I got a degree in screwing people for money, I thought I'd use it for such. My girlfriend have [sic] started our own adult site www.morganamoon.com. . . . Help me out by going to our website and buy some of our dirty videos . . ."

LOL, in for eventual clusterf*ck and shaming of this man.

mine is forsale too! any bidders?

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

What year was the degree awarded? I can't tell.

To 2:59:
yes, of course you should say that you lived in the place for a month and can't find the address. Lying on your bar application because you think your life is just "too complicated" is not a good way to begin the practice of law.

Wow... this guy is a dueche!

Now that the Loyola troll is gone forever, I thought that blogs would finally focus on the real issue: the egalitarian nature of the legal profession that causes the associates at top firms like Cravath and S&C (most of whom have top educational credentials) to earn the exact same salary as mediocre associates from low-ranked firms like Jones Day, where no one with average grades from a T6 or so would consider working. Guess that was wishful thinking.

Why is it that everything on this site (with the notable exceptions of LEWW and the Supreme Court clerk watch) is about losers? I read Dealbreaker as well, and they mostly emphasize the successful people in the profession, etc. You wouldn't see on Dealbreaker a post about a low-life unemployed with a degree from a crap business school which no one cares about. Wish it were the same on ATL.

Yah! She looks like a foot!

HLS Grad,

Don't you mean the "inegalitarian" nature of the profession? I assume you do, but that dynamic cuts both ways. Bright kids from T2 schools have to settle for firms like Jones Day, even though they're more qualified than a person with "average grades from a T6 or so."

he may be a loser, but he is hung like a horse (assuming that is him on his dirty website nailing his ugly gf)

That was the best thing I have ever read, I hope none of you people went to second tier schools because you aren't getting jobs, he was right.

3:49:

what's wrong with losers? the losers are funnier.

The putz is selling his diploma, not his degree. Guess he didn't learn much at DePaul either.

2:59--I hear ya. As far as not remembering stuff, I just called up the good people at the Bar and surprisingly got a human right away by asking for the receptionist to transfer me to one. I couldn't remember some stuff like the citation number of my underage drinking citation. She said it was no big deal and just to put what you can remember. Remember, these people probably hate reviewing these apps as much as we hate filling them out. I think the most important thing is to get good character references, yes?

3:57: No, I did mean egalitarian. The point is that the average Cravath lawyer is vastly more qualified than the average Jones Day lawyer, but both earn exactly the same compensation (despite the fact that Cravath is many times more profitable for the partners, and Cravath associates bill a great deal more). Average students at a T6 have a LSAT near the 99th percentile, and comparable grades from usually decent ugrads (on average); very very few students from tier 2 schools have these kinds of credentials.

Twenty first!

HLS Grad,

What you did before practice doesn't matter one bit once you get out of school. Some of the finest attorneys I know went to third-tier local schools and some real f*-ups went to T6's. Maybe Cravath and S&C lawyers should get paid more than Jones Day lawyers but that's between their partners and their associates. Needless to say, Cravath partners make on average more than Jones Day partners. So the difference will be more than made up if you have what it takes to make partner . . . and if you think an HLS degree is what it takes, you don't have it.

I dumped you because you are a total douche. You keeping asking me, why...is it something I said? No, you just have a baby penis.

What's up with Lat's new obsession with the word "cum"?

Hell yeah! HLS Grad gets shit on!

3:49,
It might be easier to write about successes in finance than successes in law. After all, what BigLaw associate ever does anything worthwhile? They all do the same crap, get paid the exact same amount, and don't have anything that the lawyer in the office next door doesn't have.

If associates actually accomplished anything worthwhile you'd read about it. Instead, all you read about is BigLaw bonuses, because frankly that's all BigLaw associates care about.

A 1st-3rd year associate at a V10 firm does not bring a nickel's worth of value to a deal/case than a 1st-3rd year at any other firm.

A 1st-3rd year associate at a V10 firm does not bring a nickel's worth of value to a deal/case than a 1st-3rd year at any other firm.

But they are probably very fastidious with their blog posts.

Shit. I left out the word "more" again and screwed up my edited post, thereby proving HLS Grad correct. My mom smoked when she was pregnant with me. What's YOUR excuse?

...and have baby penises. Penii?

Here's a link to the porn site guys

http://www.morganamoon.com/home.html

What is DePaul University? Is that an online program?

I kind of agree with the poster above. While I enjoy reading about losers and lawyers behaving badly, I think it would be a good feature for you to focus on a lawyer (maybe an associate?) who is doing something special -

maybe on:
An associate who is part time
An associate who took charge in a pro bono case
Someone with a great clerkship

Choose a topic and have readers suggest people or nominate themselves ;)

If Cravath associates were really so much better than the rest of us they would be able to negotiate themselves into bigger base salaries.

"HLS Grad," your quandary simply illustrates your idiocy and irrational lust for "prestige" (as defined exclusively by "The Vault"). I also went to HLS, and graduated just a hair out of magna in 2004. Ivy undergrad too; I'm better-credentialed than you are. My first decision in the recruiting season was *not* to interview at a single "V20" firm, *precisely* because the pay at firms that would allow me more of a life pay *exactly the same money*. Instead of crying about that fact, you should have used it to your advantage in order to live a slightly less sweatshop existence. Hope this helps.

BTW, other than Wachtell (and some, but not all of the folks from my class who went to Cravath), the people I knew from my class who went to "V5" and "V10" firms were 60th percentile at best, and clearly seeking to compensate after being outshone in law school. (Just look at the percentage of HLS magnas and cum laudes at Skadden, for instance.) My guess is that you fall into this category.

HLS Grad is a miserable human being. He makes me want to kill myself.

Right on 4:46!!!

DePaul's law school is a joke. Their law review is getting slammed in Chicago because of a cheating scandal. That "degree" is worthless.

How do you "cheat" on law review...are we talking plaigarism, or does the DePaul Law Review take period online exams?

"periodic"

Recently graduated from DePaul Law and doing reasonably well for myself. Maybe if you spent half as much time looking for a new job as you do penning useless diatribes your situation would improve. Way to shame the school and the rest of the alumni ass.

You guys crack me up, clearly all those years getting dumped in trash cans and the subsequent blood rush to your head has caused to you lose a sense of humor. Did it ever occur to any of you that the link to a porn site was a joke, and one that was pretty witty since the site is based in Chicago. I guess all the time spent breathing in the AC for 18 hours a day while working at your big firms has caused you to lose the small amount of humor and common sense that you once had. At least you all will be rich, alcoholics, and banging your fat secretary because your wife will have left you for someone with a personality and is around for more than 20 min a day. What a great profession! At least Mommy and Daddy are proud of you now. Well probably Daddy and step-mommy since your dad was probably a big firm lawyer and your Mom left him since he wasn't around, but you followed in his footsteps and didn't let him down. Good work. This profession is a joke from top to bottom, any profession that has to tell you to "take a little time for your personal life" has its priorities all f'd up.

Anyone want a Cornell Degree for $50K? Equally as useless and only half the price!

Alright Nerd Hater, that is starting to sting a little. Be nice.

In fairness, most of us were going to be alcoholics anyway.

Guys at my law school sold their degrees for a hit of crack all the time. It was no big deal.

Cum on my degree -- 15 cents.

Bottomline

Guys in my high school used to bang fat chicks all the time, it was no big deal.

Nerd Hater:

What about those of us who tied the knot too young and get the new secretary every so often because we want to trade up from our money grubbing shallow wife and out of that prison called 'marriage'? Any credit for escaping one facet of an otherwise miserable existence?

So, what is the over/under on how long it will be before eBay removes this auction for advertising pornography?

4:16, Lat's obsession with cum is nothing new.

He's not registered in Illinois. Maybe he failed the bar.

i want details about the depaul LR cheating scandal. that sounds delicious.

more info on the depaul law review scandal please. i just got in on full scholarship and want to hear more (and have no interest in working for biglaw, so save it.)

I believe HLS Grad is actually a poor engaged in an embarrassing attempt to mock successfull people. Poors are bad at everything.

HLS-

I'll put my JD and credentials up against you any day. Maybe this attitude and sense of entitlement is what distinguishes mediocrity from success? You believe you are entitled to it and don't do the work required to succeed. I would put my 30 Lawyer firm up against Cravath any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Hey "Response to 4:30"-- As a DePaul grad at an international law firm, I've got a couple questions for you:

(1) What exactly makes DePaul's law school a "joke"? There are DePaul grads all over Chicago (including in all the biggest firms). Several of its programs (IP, Health Law for example) are among the top rated in the country. If every T2 law school is a "joke" to you, then congrats on your LSAT score and go fuck yourself.

(2) What cheating scandal, and who exactly is "slamming" the DePaul Law Review? I live in Chicago and keep in contact with some of my old DePaul profs, and I haven't heard one word about it. I call bullshit.

DePaul sounds too much like DeVry or ITT Tech. Maybe they should change their name and they would get more respect.

It's just a regional school. It gets plenty of respect in Chicago. Last I checked, there were even several federal judges (including Seventh Circuit) that went there.

i'm a depaul student with a job at a top firm and virtually no debt thanks to my scholarship. yeah, i really blew it...

that said, employment for all but the top of the class is difficult, and the chicago market is better than others. not worth full price, but a great place to go if they hand you good money.

can someone please explain HLS grad's posts? jones day is no cravath, but it's still extremely prestigious, isn't it?

The "boyfriend" from the website claims to have graduated from DePaul in '03.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=85452141

The "boyfriend" from the website claims to have graduated from DePaul in '03.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=85452141

I'd buy the diploma for a buck or two. He set the minimum bid way too high.

8:38,

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Our Firm's success stems from key strengths:

* Client focus
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Recent recognition

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"he may be a loser, but he is hung like a horse (assuming that is him on his dirty website nailing his ugly gf)"

Dude, if you think the guy in those pics is 'hung like a horse', you must have total tinymeat. Or you've never seen a horse. I'm betting both.

8:38: He's saying Jones Day is not prestigious partly because it is somewhat prestigious. By saying it's not, he builds the Cravaths of the world up. It's like people from Harvard calling Yale a safety school. Get it?

First, that is David's actual website. I sat next to him in class and never knew. . .

Second, I also call bullshit on said LR scandal. Small world - we would have heard.

Finally, HLS Jerk, I'm confused. Our paychecks are identical. Do you get paid in special Harvard bucks?

what a big fat cry-baby wus. Nobody made you go to law school. Nut-up and be a man. Go out on your own. You don't have to work for anybody you don't want to.

I'm sick of this website always portraying the legal profession in a negative light. For better or worse, most of the people on this board have decided to do this law thing as a career. If you don't like your job, quit. Its your own life. Why do we always have to hear boring and miserable stories about people doing miserable, crappy, boring things? This is in no way cool or interesting or funny or insightful. IT's just pathetic and stupid and there are a million other interesting things that are going on the legal world worth blogging about.

I am currently on the DePaul Law Review. I have not heard of any cheating scandal. Interesting to note that this post generated an inordinate amount of idiotic comments, even for ATL.

Did anyone noticed on the website that his porn name is David Law?

At least this guy can get a porn star girlfriend. The only women that will date a Loyola grad are crackwhores, which I can't even afford because the $14/hour job I'll start next year won't even pay my loans.

no, but he does get to say "harvard" incessantly, a strange addiction among his ilk.

So Morgana Moon is simply Debra Wold? She's not even that cute.

One of the 2L's that is a candidate had her note written for her by someone else. The administration was provided with emails and hard copy evidence yet still allowed her to remain.

Cravath and S&C have PPPs around $3,000,000. Jones Day and similar firms have PPPs around $1,000,000. Associates at firms with PPPs around $3,000,000 contribute far more money to their firms than associates at firms with PPPs around $1,000,000 and should be compensated accordingly. This should not be a controversial statement, and certainly not a statement worthy of ridicule, but for some reason given the ridiculously egalitarian ideology of people here this is made to be controversial.

The other HLS grad who posted earlier is certainly correct that most of the smartest people at HLS choose to work in appellate litigation in D.C. and not at the highly-profitable firms in NYC (with the exceptions of Wachtell and Cravath). This does not affect my argument.

she is downright NASTY. However, he is indeed hung like a horse.

HLS Grad, you are such a loser. Get over yourself.

He is definitely not hung like a horse. Maybe at an Ivy League school he is, but not in the real world.

Also, even though this guy is probably a nine-ball, he has a point (which is thoroughly confirmed on these message boards). Our profession is miserable.

He is definitely not hung like a horse. Maybe at an Ivy League school he is, but not in the real world.

Also, even though this guy is probably a nine-ball, he has a point (which is thoroughly confirmed on these message boards). Our profession is miserable.

He is definitely not hung like a horse. Maybe at an Ivy League school he is, but not in the real world.

Also, even though this guy is probably a nine-ball, he has a point (which is thoroughly confirmed on these message boards). Our profession is miserable.

"HLS Grad," you're just digging yourself deeper. Everyone knows in advance that certain firms have much higher PPPs than others, and yet pay exactly the same salary to associates. The obvious conclusion that one ought to draw from that information is that any associate who chooses to go to these highest PPP firms (other than Wachtell) is signing up to get shafted by being paid a lower hourly wage than they would elsewhere. By whining about this fact that you should have known in advance, you are no better than Loyola 2L.

"Morgana Moon" is hot, although the Wiccan pentagram tattoo on her bikini line is a bit much.

And the guy making up a porn name of "David Law" is teh ghey. If the dude with the long hair and tats is him, no wonder he couldn't find work anywhere.

3:02, that's not him.

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Other HLS Grad: Unlike L2L, I never claimed that anyone misled me or misrepresented anything. I always knew what things were like, and there are many good reasons why it makes more sense to work at top NYC firms even if the pay is the same for more hours. But I still think that the system would be better if there was a greater correlation between associate pay and partner pay. It is truly ridiculous that the top people don't make way more than average people.