First to be sick of you begging for comments...

Why don't we all comment and tell her which we prefer

the crazy time it took for a "first" on this page indicates people really dont care for a hip or cool phones as much as one would think highly paid young people would

STFUY

"equally addictive (but much more hip)..."

Um, try "hipper"...

but what about brickbreaker???????????

hipper sounds more awkward than your first time with a woman 2:49.

Seconding 2:46 (please)

Blackberry. At least there's no pretense to cool. When firms start providing iPhones, they won't be cool anymore, and I'm not convinced their utility is higher than the blackberry without the hipness factor. I don't do coke, so I don't need the reflective surface on the back, and I think blackberry has some pretty cool third-party apps that function without internet access (say, on a subway, or in a rural area).

I would love to be able to use a gadget like the iphone so I wouldn't have to carry a separate MP3 player on me. With that said, I don't see it being respected enough by the business community where it would be adopted by law firms.

"We think, however, that there should be a screening process for who gets the iPhones."

DIAF

SEN:

Stop putting ""s in at the beginning of your blockquotes. The result is an ugly empty space at the beginning of all your quotes (see the Power & CWT articles.)

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*The post system gobbled by HTML tag. Stop putting BREAK TAGS in...

You've GOT to be kidding me:

www.sharonelizanichols1cup.com

Aside from all the SEN bashing..

Is it Blackberrys or Blackberries?

I want to know.

2:51 (aka SEN) - so standard for proper grammar is level of awkwardness? And in your world, is there a difference between "poor" grammar and "incorrect" grammar?

Maybe you dust off the dictionary - from Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry: 4hip
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): hip·per; hip·pest
Etymology: alteration of 2hep
Date: 1904
1 a: having or showing awareness of or involvement in the newest developments or styles b: very fashionable : trendy
2: aware or appreciative of something —used with to
— hip·ly adverb

Give me the touchscreen keyboard over the blackberry keys any day.

Booooo..........you suck

mea culpa - insert "should" before "dust"

iPhones are for toolbags. Ever tried to actually write an email with that touch screen? All my other cult friends like their iPhones and their emo shit, but not me.

seeing as associates are being laid off - what firm would go through the capital outlay at this time to switch over to Iphones - Maybe WSGR since they do a ton of work for them but IT depts. want to limit options not give more of them.

Much like PC why PC's dominate most of the non-creative world, BB have cornered the market.

Hey Lat, I have enjoyed this blog for the last couple of years. However, you are really straining credibility by having an Alabama 1L writing about the "lawyerly crowd." I was a 1L not too long ago (in NYC, not Alabama), and I cringe to think of one of my classmates then writing about what Biglaw associates like and don't like, what firms are up to. It just doesn't work. I am a biglaw associate in NYC now. You have to write what you know. Ms. Alabama 1L doesn't know a f*cking thing about Biglaw or the "lawyerly crowd," and you are screwing up ATL by letting her write about it.

if only there was some way to guage the opinio of a group of people. some sort of device that could count each person's position on a given subject. then the device could display the counts in a easy to read visual format.

3:06: You have undiagnosed cancer. Go see a doctor and try to work something out.

iphone already lawfirm standard in LA

HELP!!! When did "too cool" get hyphenated? I'm so behind the times - clearly don't deserve an iPhone!

What's with the hating on the blogger?

I'd go for an iPhone in a heartbeat.

You can drop a Blackberry, break its screen, and/or submerge it and it will still work.

The iPhone is a fragile, dainty little number with a battery lasts 24 hours at the most.

Any technology committee that votes even to try iPhones for "real" business purposes should be disbanded and its members fired.

You can drop a Blackberry, break its screen, and/or submerge it and it will still work.

The iPhone is a fragile, dainty little number with a battery that lasts 24 hours at the most.

Any technology committee that votes even to try iPhones for "real" business purposes should be disbanded and its members fired.

It hasn't gotten as bad as XOXO, but I think there's a fair amount of misogyny going on in the criticisms of SEN. The preemptive hate isn't really deserved. complain to Lat about quality, but the casual, "funny" comments trashing her aren't responsive to anything except some kidn of visceral dislike that, unless clarified, certainly resembles lonely, bored guys trying to vent anxiety and pent-up energy that can't be unleashed because they're stuck on doc review.

I'm sick of you begging for comments too. You remind me of Dora the explorer.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8122750367857806983

What will I do without bbm?!

OMG "crackberry?" Seriously?!?

Wow. Just, wow.

As a mere child, you should be forgiven for speaking such foolishness. However, since you fancy yourself a "blogger" worthy of this site (and, more important, this audience) you do not deserve our pity. You have earned our collective scorn and we now command you:

Die. Immediately.

blackberry forevah, iphone nevah

Lat, please get this redneck off the site. She's worse than Merck.

BTW, blackberries aren't "refined."

I have to wonder, did SEN not know what she was getting herself into? Was she familiar with Billy Merck and thought she could do better?

Can't there be a roundtable discussion with Merck, SEN, and the chick who does the weddings to discuss what it's like to guest blog here? Do they read the comments? Do they not care? Did they ever come to tears?

And where is Billy Merck now? Did the hostility become too much for him?

Overall, while I admire SEN's stick-to-it-ness, she's in waaay over her head.

SEN - have you used either?

I think I'll stop looking at ATL on Fridays.

"You can drop a Blackberry, break its screen, and/or submerge it and it will still work.

The iPhone is a fragile, dainty little number with a battery lasts 24 hours at the most.

Any technology committee that votes even to try iPhones for "real" business purposes should be disbanded and its members fired."

Most WindowsMobile Smartphones are at least as fragile as the iphone, with worse batteries. And the software crashes constantly. Yet pretty much every single firm I know of is open to smartphones. I guess every law firm technology committee should be fired?

3:17(2) - best comment here. And on that note, good weekend to all.

SEN-Give me a bloggin' break

SEN,

We do not want to be pals. Give us red meat or YOU will be the meal, Stupid.

How about an MPRE thread? (SEN, if you're not sure what that is, it's an exam many 3Ls are taking tomorrow). Just a thought. (And before any of you pounce with "duh, the MPRE was so easy, you're such a TTT, etc." comments, spare me.)

SEN - run away from this profession as fast as you can. As you can see it's filled with a bunch of miserable, exacting d*uchebags. A lot of these posters seem genuinely upset that you are posting (decent) stories on this website. I'm not convinced this is all their fault - the profession molds people into the depressed winners that are posting here.

What the hell is it with people wanting to crucify every new blogger on here? I think they all secretly have gay man-crushes on Lat, personally. SEN, I think you're doing a great job so far. However, I would get rid ending your posts with a request for responses. They will come and it is a little annoying. Other than that though, keep your head up. You are doing great. You just have to realize, lawyers have a lot of pent up hostility and need to release it upon someone. It isn't your fault they hate their lives!

3:28(2)
Admire your intentions but should you really be telling a 1L that "lawyers have a lot of pent up hostility" and "they hate their lives"?

I'm taking the MPRE completely cold tomorrow.

test: douchebag

c.f. The PC vs. Mac article in the current issue of ABA Journal.

Having done that test, I'm genuinely curious as to why 3:28 felt compelled to add an asterisk?

I can't think of any reason why someone would do that. If you want to call someone a douchebag, just do it. No need to handwring about it.

How many fifth graders do you guys think you could take on at once? I mean Chuck Norris could probably take on a million, but I think 10 is a fair number for the mortal man.

3:06. You sad human being. First of all, contrary to your opinion, everyone that lives in NYC is not smarter than everyone that lives in Alabama. This must be an opinion you hold, otherwise the smugness going on inside your parens wouldn't have been there.

Second, I would like to present three of your own quotes and see if you can guess what the problem with you as a person is. Ready, Go!

1. I am a biglaw associate in NYC now.
2. Ms. Alabama 1L doesn't know a f*cking thing about Biglaw or the "lawyerly crowd," and you are screwing up ATL by letting her write about it.
3. You have to write what you know.

Get it? Likely not, judging from your post. Hypocritical at the very least. High anxiety, suppression of rage, and a feeling of helplessness likely. Conclusion: confront your wife about doing the pool boy. You'll feel better.

3:40 -

It's not that hard to think of a reason. I was trying to preempt getting the word blacked out to #### or whatever. I didn't know that this site doesn't have a filter.

2:59,

It is without question "Blackberrys." Blackberry is a proper noun.

3:06. You sad human being. First of all, contrary to your opinion, everyone that lives in NYC is not smarter than everyone that lives in Alabama. This must be an opinion you hold, otherwise the smugness going on inside your parens wouldn't have been there.

Second, I would like to present three of your own quotes and see if you can guess what the problem with you as a person is. Ready, Go!

1. I am a biglaw associate in NYC now.
2. Ms. Alabama 1L doesn't know a f*cking thing about Biglaw or the "lawyerly crowd," and you are screwing up ATL by letting her write about it.
3. You have to write what you know.

Get it? Likely not, judging from your post. Hypocritical at the very least. High anxiety, suppression of rage, and a feeling of helplessness likely. Conclusion: confront your wife about doing the pool boy. You'll feel better.

The reason people are upset about SEN is because this is a blog that focuses on elite firms and high ranking legal folks with a tabloid tone. Lat has lots of credibility to post on these items, and it adds to the site.

SEN is not at an elite firm, and will not be. She seems like a fun, sweet person who has been lucky enough to get a great opportunity if she wants to be a journalist. I wish her the best.

However, she has her own blog already. Its nice of Lat to give her a little publicity but this is not a charity. When she in on the site, it ceases to be what ATL is all about. Sorry, SEN, it's not personal, it's just how it is.

While I agree the personal attacks are unnecessary, it's equally stupid that every time someone complains, someone (in my opinion, the exact same person) responds by saying the complainer is a stressed out lawyer (thanks for the clever observations, really!).

There is a legitimate gripe here. Either keep up with your own blog, Lat, which we all enjoy enough to find time for in our day, or put it in the hands of someone with decent credibility.

3:06. You sad human being. First of all, contrary to your opinion, everyone that lives in NYC is not smarter than everyone that lives in Alabama. This must be an opinion you hold, otherwise the smugness going on inside your parens wouldn't have been there.

Second, I would like to present three of your own quotes and see if you can guess what the problem with you as a person is. Ready, Go!

1. I am a biglaw associate in NYC now.
2. Ms. Alabama 1L doesn't know a f*cking thing about Biglaw or the "lawyerly crowd," and you are screwing up ATL by letting her write about it.
3. You have to write what you know.

Get it? Likely not, judging from your post. Hypocritical at the very least. High anxiety, suppression of rage, and a feeling of helplessness likely. Conclusion: confront your wife about doing the pool boy. You'll feel better.

Is that true about the Blackberry's durability? What about against a two-year determined to rip apart daddy's cellphone?

Uh, what number of associates in New York have pools let alone pool boys?

3:48:

Thank you. Blackberrys it is.

"First of all, contrary to your opinion, everyone that lives in NYC is not smarter than everyone that lives in Alabama."

2L (3:35) - You are going to fail.

Quit the sexist SEN bashing. It's sad and unnecessary.

3:51(1) makes the correct argument.

I can deal with Lat's occasional lapses and his less than perfect habits because I know he has the credentials and experience to lend credibility to his opinions and musings.

SEN is just a stupid kid who doesn't know fuck about shit. I don't care what she has to say and I hate wasting my time on her drivel.

Now, before you tell me to just stop reading this site if I don't like SEN, let me remind you: this site is designed for me-- for lawyers at top tier firms, accustomed to high quality work and play. It caters to topics I care about and I like that. I like to visit and take a quick break every few hours to enjoy the ATL distractions.

But, take this to heart, Lat, I ONLY like to visit because I can rely on you, a peer with excellent taste and fine judgment, to present something worth my time. If you continue to compromise that essential ingredient, this blog will whiter and die or, worse, end up a haven for inane law students and the otherwise unimpressive.

3:51(1) makes the correct argument.

I can deal with Lat's occasional lapses and his less than perfect habits because I know he has the credentials and experience to lend credibility to his opinions and musings.

SEN is just a stupid kid who doesn't know fuck about shit. I don't care what she has to say and I hate wasting my time on her drivel.

Now, before you tell me to just stop reading this site if I don't like SEN, let me remind you: this site is designed for me-- for lawyers at top tier firms, accustomed to high quality work and play. It caters to topics I care about and I like that. I like to visit and take a quick break every few hours to enjoy the ATL distractions.

But, take this to heart, Lat, I ONLY like to visit because I can rely on you, a peer with excellent taste and fine judgment, to present something worth my time. If you continue to compromise that essential ingredient, this blog will whiter and die or, worse, end up a haven for inane law students and the otherwise unimpressive.

4:04: Why is it sexist? Merck got his fair share. Personal items aside (i.e., SEN can't help being a clueless 1L in AL), any and all comments re: grammar and credibility are valid. Perhaps she should start early and practice her proofreading skills.

Ignore the logic, whine about the grammar. Whatever makes you feel like your life isnt an empty, meaningless shell.

The iPhone as a messaging device is awful. Much greater throughput on the Blackberry, with its tactile keyboard. I've used both, and Blackberry is superior. YMMV.

Hey, self-help! what an ironic name you've picked for yourself! people have a real complaint about what SEN is doing to Lat's blog.

You respond to them by saying their lives must suck and their wives sleep with pool boys. I swear I think you used the same line last Friday- are you seriously recycling the same sarcastic comments? Your hostility at people who are just airing legitimate gripes shows you're the one who gets off on this type of commentary.

If you like SEN so much, how about some posts saying she is doing a good job? There aren't many of those- but, I think we all know why that is.

3:51 -

I agree with you. Lat made a strange decision by allowing a 1L from a non-elite school to guest blog.

However, I think that point has been made repeatedly. The criticisms now are liitle more than gratuitous put down. I feel bad for SEN - the viewership smelled blood in the water and attacked her much more aggressively than she deserved.

to 3:55: your kid won't get the better of the blackberry

to 3:57: dropping the blackberry into a toilet is just like having and dropping your blackberry into a pool

Please don't let there be a smackdown part II.

How do we take a vote without a poll? I am confused.

Please don't let there be a smackdown part II.

"Is that true about the Blackberry's durability? What about against a two-year determined to rip apart daddy's cellphone?"

I can tell you that a six month old rottweiler puppy chewed the crap out of my old one, and neither the BB nor the puppy worked well afterwards (the BB was charging at the time - zap!). As a sidenote, the puppy did manage to send a quite nonsensical e-mail to a client's board member before getting electrocuted...

4:04, there've definitely been some super sexist remarks on other posts -- all the stuff about how she should just shut up, she's cute and that's all she's good at, etc., is obviously sexist -- but there's actually been a refreshing lack of that in the comments to THIS post, so it's not really the right one in which to complain about sexism. Pointing out that she's an inexperienced and boring 1L with unimpressive writing skills isn't sexist. It might be a little bit mean, but it isn't sexist.

I mean, this blog is sexist all the freaking time. But here? One of the few places where I'm actually not seeing too much of it.

I use both. They each have their advantages in terms of typing (amazing autocorrect on iPhone, good shorthand and tactile on BB). That said, BB is easier in terms of interaction with Outlook, and the battery life is much, much longer. I'm completely in love with my iPhone, but prefer the BB for work purposes.

SEN I really need a full length photo in order to determine if I hate you or if I hate you but would still have sex with you.

There really should be a requirement that people have actually passed a bar before they're permitted to blog here.

I use both but regret putting a single dollar towards the iPhone. It is bug-ridden and Apple made it clear that it cares more about locking it down than providing a good product. The keyboard sucks - the buttons are too small and close together which leads to many more errors than the tactile Blackberry. The Calendar and Contacts are severely limited in functionality and compatibility. And whereas it took me about 15 minutes to get up to full speed on the Blackberry, the iPhone has been a painful example of poor design. They took "keep it simple stupid" to a whole different level. The iPhone is geared to morons who would otherwise screw up whatever technological device they touch. If you know what you are doing and want more control, it just frustrates the hell out of you. But I guess that makes it perfect for lawyers - most of my colleagues wouldn't know an iPhone from a brick, and to them, that's a feature.

I think there can be a better option. I hope it comes soon, before I throw this PoS iPhone out the window.

To the commenter who said iphones are now the standard in big law firms in LA, can you clarify which ones? (I'm going to one, and just curious if I should put off buying an ipod touch, if I might get an iphone through work.)

Also, doesn't the fact that you actually want to have your iphone with you (e.g., to listen to music) make it more attractive to employers, since it increases the odds that the employee will have the iphone with them more often?

Poor, naive 5:48. Having your PDA with you at all times is not something over which you have any choice. Besides, unless you want to carry multiple devices around with you, your PDA/blackberry/smartphone/whatever is going to be your phone anyway. So you'd have it with you all the time even if it weren't required.

Since when are iphones "standard"? EVERYONE I know has a Blackberry or a Treo. If someone has an iphone, it's because s/he bought it for her/himself.

To poor, naive 5:48:

(1) Get your own b/c the firm giveth, and can taketh away (w/ all your music and other stored info).

(2) Get your own b/c you'll have a job and you need to stop being so cheap.

To 4:34: You say "The criticisms now are liitle more than gratuitous put down...the viewership..attacked her much more aggressively than she deserved."

I disagree. Aside from mere catharsis, one goal (my goal) of criticising SEN is to persuade Lat to stop using her. For that, quantity matters. I hope people don't let up on SEN because I'd like to see her gone. I admire SEN's ambition and her ability to secure this gig in the first place, but ATL is worse because of her. I will stop reading if it becomes another XOXO.

I like the posters here. Such losers. Makes me feel better about me.

Does the I-phone still require service through at&t? Firms that have wireless plans with a carrier other than at&t won't go with the i-phone.

Why did ATL suddenly get so boring???

I think this is a great thread. The new corporate capabilities of the i-Phone are going to change the game. Now that it handles MS Exchange and has the ability to be wiped remotely, I think some firms will give it a shot.

As an i-Phone owner myself, though, I think I would prefer to use it as my 'personal' phone and keep the berry for work.

How many of you have two phones? Is it a big hassle?

I love the arguments...everyone claims to be a lawyer at a top firm or student at an elite school, yet makes comments about Sharon being killed and the like, along with the completely over-the-top sexual comments. Glad to know the legal profession is being spearheaded by good, ethical people. Guys, she's a human being, for christ's sake.

I love the arguments...everyone claims to be a lawyer at a top firm or student at an elite school, yet makes comments about Sharon being killed and the like, along with the completely over-the-top sexual comments. Glad to know the legal profession is being spearheaded by good, ethical people. Guys, she's a human being, for christ's sake.

This really is a stupid post, but worse, it could have been handled in a much less condescending, prestige-whore way.

Of course, this is ATL, why wouldn't we want that?

sen, RUN YOUR LAPS, PLEDGE!!!!!!

2:02, not everyone claims to be a student at an elite school; some are at Fordham.