Musical Chairs: John Bolton to Kirkland & Ellis
Here's news of an interesting, high-profile move. Our source offers this preface:
"[A] number of the younger lawyers at K&E tend to be moderate to liberal and have donated a great deal to Obama. Yet K&E seems to be a popular destination for right-wingers nonetheless."
(Well, that depends on the office. There are lots of moderate to liberal young lawyers in K&E's New York and Chicago offices. But in the more politically charged Washington office, conservatives dominate the junior ranks as well.)
Oh yes, the move. As reported by James Oliphant -- former editor in chief of the Legal Times, who not too long ago went back to reporting, for the Chicago Tribune -- in the Tribune's D.C. blog, The Swamp:
John Bolton, the outspoken former Bush administration official and UN ambassador, is joining Chicago-based Kirkland & Ellis as a senior adviser.Bolton worked as a senior arms-control policymaker in the State Department and became known for his hawk-like views toward Iraq, Iran and North Korea and a belligerant personal style. His nomination as United Nations ambassador in 2005 became a highly charged affair, largely because Bolton had expressed tremendous antipathy toward the U.N.
He was once quoted as saying that "The Secretariat building in New York has 38 stories. If you lost ten stories today, it wouldn't make a bit of difference." Ultimately, he was never confirmed as U.N. ambassador but made a recess appointment by President Bush and again drew criticism for an abrasive manner while in New York.
Interestingly enough, John Bolton was friends during law school with Clarence Thomas, who would also become a target of the left in the years to come. At last year's book party for Justice Thomas's memoir, My Grandfather's Son, Bolton and Thomas were overheard commiserating over how doing audio versions of their books made them hoarse.
John Bolton joins Chicago-based firm [The Swamp / Chicago Tribune]

Joines??
I startes there this fall, too!
his mustache is awful. i wonder what all grows in it.
why does K&E strike me as evil?
"[A] number of the younger lawyers at K&E tend to be moderate to liberal and have donated a great deal to Obama..." Would a moderate give to Obama?
Which K&E office?
Ardent zionist who let APAC influence his policy decision which are counter to America's foreign policy interests and subjected us to world condemnation. Im not surprised that he is now whoring himself to firms.
Thanks for Screwing the American people, John! I am sure Al-Quida thanks you for the priceless propaganda material you have provided. You have the blood of thousands of dead civilians in Lebanon and Palestine on your hands.
2:11, it's pretty damn hard to take someone seriously when (s)he starts a screed with the word "zionist."
former or current employees of k&e: ken starr, robert bork, paul clement, brett kavanaugh, paul capuccio, adam ciongoli, alez azar, brett kavanaugh, kannon shanmugam, alex azar, craig primis, chris landau, patrick philbin, steven bradbury, susan engel, steven engel, jay lefkowitz...and nearly every other former scalia or thomas clerk, or so it seems
Dear Every Other Firm-
I don't have many principles, as I work at a large law firm, but one of them allows me to never, ever, ever be associated with this guy. I'm therefore looking for a new job. I hope you're hiring.
Soon to be Former K&E Senior Associate
2:21 - what about brett kavanaugh? did he work there?
"Bolton and Thomas were overheard commiserating over how doing audio versions of their books made them hoarse."
Maybe if Thomas exercised his voice more often at oral argument, he'd have the stamina to read through his awful book.
His policies are counter to our foreign policy interests? Yes, I guess we can rely instead on a different democratic country in the region - oh yeah, there isn't one.
The blame for the blood of the civililans in "Palestine" is squarely on the shoulders of their own leadership and the culture of hatred & intolerance they continue to ebrace. As for the Lebonese that got caught in the crossfire last year, blame Hezbollah (and their supporters, Iran)
And Al Queda doesn't need any propaganda to spread the hate - it's what they live, die and kill for. Get a clue.
Rumor has it that Bolton has been hired to look into the thrashing a male summer associate received last summer at the hands of a female at some Chicago drinking establishment.
2:29 -- good point!
Is he joining the Chicago office?
Democratic? Hahaha! If by democratic you mean that they do practice apartheid techniques and don’t let a major portion of the population (Arabs) vote, then yes they are democratic. Lest we forget that Hamas is a DEMOCRATICALLY elected government and the election of such a party is a reflection of the people’s response to murder, plunder, and land stealing that the “only democratic county” perpetuates.
Doesnt let a major portion of the population vote?? There are about a million Israeli Arabs in Israel. They also have Arabs in their government, Idiot.
Apartheid techniques? Land stealing??? lololololol. Read a real history book you moron, not Protocols of the Edlers or Zion. I am sure you would like the Israelis to sit quietly and let their enemies kill them like good little Jews should do...
2:44, I can only assume that you are also 2:11. I doubt there are TWO assholes willing to say should stupid shit.
Kirkland is evil and proud of it. They bragged about attacking the retarded child victim in a Milwaukee lead paint poisoning case.
K&E: Firm most likely to go Kenner Bach & Ledeen.
Pop Quiz! Who is the ONLY country in the Middle East that has Nuclear weapons? (hint, they bombed the hell out of Lebanon and killed countless civilians because hizbollah captured Israeli soldiers who were in Lebanon occupying the Lebanese land of shebba farms). You guessed right...Israel! Now you know why every other country in the region wants nuclear weapons.
Domer lawyer, a number of liberal attorneys made snide political remarks in my interviews with them. Luckily, as a liberal, you haven't experienced that because (1) there are less Republicans in the legal profession (especially at top firms) and (2) those Republicans who are at top firms happen to be more tolerant of those with divergent political beliefs. As a minority, Republicans have to be more accepting of their liberal colleague's opinions.
Just as an aside, the vast majority of people that I know at K&E's NY office are liberal. The DC office is an anomaly from what I have been told.
"But in the more politically charged Washington office, conservatives dominate the junior ranks as well."
Link, Lat? Why don't you tell us how many associates have given to repubs vs. dems in this presidential election from the DC office? Because you're a lazy shit who can't be bothered to attempt to back up the worthless drivel you spout.
This is about Bolton, not Foreign Policy.
But since this can of worms opened, I will reply to 2:49's comment.
why not try and reply with something intellegent and fact based instead of running to name call when you don't like what is said. And likely have no basis for your opinion.
UN Rapporteur compares Israel to Apartheid South Africa
See: http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6602.shtml
2:44's existence upsets me, but I take solace in the fact that he drives himself B-A-N-A-N-A-S over Zionist plots, Jewish lobbies, Bolton's mustache and Rachel "McPancake" Corrie.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6390755.stm
3:02,
Are you saying... wait a minute, let me sit down... that a United Nations entity is [hush now] disapproving of something Israel does?
Land stealing, Example No. 1000000000000:
The government of 1. Israel said Sunday that it had approved the construction of hundreds of homes in a West Bank settlement north of Jerusalem (all on palestinian land!!!), a move that could further complicate a peace effort already hobbled by violence.
The Housing Ministry has also announced plans to build hundreds of dwellings in Jewish areas of East Jerusalem, which Israel annexed in the 1967 Middle East war. The Palestinians claim all of East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state.
See: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/world/middleeast/10mideast.html?ref=middleeast
ROCK ON 2:49!
2:57 - you will be able to think more clearly without the thumb up your ass.
Thanks Lat, now you've got the entire Nation of Islam posting up here.
Uh oh, Holy War on ATL!! 2:31, way to just write off innocent civilians in Lebanon. "Ooops you got caught in a cross-fire, what the hell were you doing in Lebanon anyway getting all caught in that tricky cross-fire. It's totally your own fault for being Lebanese and living in Lebanon. Any you Palestinians and your wacky culture of hate, why do you hate so much. Is it because people stole your houses and treat you like animals? That's a silly thing to get all riled up about."
Hiring idiots like JB should be a violation of the Prof. Resp. rules.
we really got clarence good when we gave him that 15 cent law degree. now bolton, the one we gave him was much better.
If you are getting your news on Israel from the Times and actually count the opinion of the UN on Israel, then there is nothing more to say.
The history of anti Israel bias of those two laughable organizations is long and sad indeed.
3:02 Shows the brutality of the zionist thought common to their entire camp and the low price they put on any human being who stands up for justice: even our fellow american.
for people who dont know who corrie rachel was...here is the link of the person he so crudly calls “Rachel "McPancake" Corrie”
http://www.rachelcorrie.org/
See also:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/index.html
I wish you had the courage to stand up for justice the way she did. You probably would not be hiding behind a computer relentlessly doling out cheap shots at murdered civil rights activists.
3:12,
Why must you accuse me of having dismissed Rachel Corrie "crudly." She is no crud. She is holy St. Pancake, a very flat testament to the might of Caterpillar.
Aw crap, Israeli-Palestinian conflict has migrated onto this board.
500 pots inc, most flames.
2:31 - Since they "claimed" East Jerusalem (the same Jerusalem that Israel will NEVER split) I guess it should be handed over - maybe with a nice red bow.
You mean THIS Rachel Corrie?
Rachel Corrie, a 23-year-old terrorism advocate from Olympia, Wash., died in a bulldozer accident yesterday. Corrie was at fault in the accident, which occurred when she either stood or crouched in front of an Israeli Defense Forces bulldozer in Gaza, the Jerusalem Post reports:
The bulldozers were part of an IDF tunnel- and mine-clearing operation. The Rafah refugee camp borders Egypt, from which Palestinian terrorists smuggle in weapons and explosives. And according to interim peace accords, Israel has the right to operate in and secure the area.
Corrie not only backed anti-Israeli terrorism; she also hated America. An Associated Press photo shows Corrie, her face contorted with hate, burning a "mock U.S. flag" at a pro-Saddam rally last month. (Hat tip: Little Green Footballs.) Reuters reports on a "symbolic funeral" that drew some 1,000 Palestinian Arabs. One of them tells the "news" service: "We fly a U.S. flag today to show our support to all American peace lovers, those like Rachel." If she were still alive, no doubt she'd have burned the flag.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110003210
If you're going to be a hater, at least do it well.
Israel is not a democracy?! I guess it was all the Zionist conspirators who elected the Arab parties to the Knesset.
Hamas a democractic party?! Please give us some indications of their respect for the rule of law, rights of minorities, rights of political opponents and other hallmarks of democracy. Oh, BTW, the Palestinians voted for Hamas because 1) Fatah is as corrupt as the day is long, and 2) Hamas promises the destruction of Israel.
BTW, be careful where you aim your Qassams - you might hit the NICU in Ashkelon which has been moved to a bomb shelter . . . which also just so happens to be caring for Palestinian neo-nates.
Other countries in the region want nukes only because Israel has them?! Right, I forgot how well various Middle East tribes got along before the Zionist usurpers arrived.
Taking the UN's word for anything regarding Israel?! That illustrious sounding board for third world crackpots and petrodollar kleptocracies? The UN and your baseless hatred both belong in the dust bin of history.
Oh, and re: computer-concealed cheap shots. I preferred to give my service to the Army, rather than some flag-burning terrorist sympathizers who can't out-maneuver a bulldozer.
That being said, I realize you are a huge trolled and I have now been trolled. So - sorry everyone. I will stop responding now and get back to billing.
The worst kind of liberals are the liberal Biglaw lawyers lining their pockets representing the big corporations they profess to hate. You are pathetic hypocrites. Shame on all of you.
Resolution 252 (1968) Israel
Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures that change the legal status of Jerusalem, including the expropriation of land and properties thereon.
262 (1968) Israel
Calls upon Israel to pay compensation to Lebanon for destruction of airliners at Beirut International Airport.
267 (1969) Israel
Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.
271 (1969) Israel
Reiterates calls to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem and calls on Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying powers.
298 (1971) Israel
Reiterates demand that Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.
"I will stop responding now and get back to billing."
Good call. Even I don't think it's worth responding to Samantha, er, 2:44.
3:12 wrote "3:02 Shows the brutality of the zionist thought common to their entire camp and the low price they put on any human being who stands up for justice: even our fellow american. "
You take quite the leap in logic based on one person's tasteless joke...then turn around and point a finger at a whole people based on it.
I smells me a racist/anti dentite bastard!
"(hint, they bombed the hell out of Lebanon and killed countless civilians because hizbollah captured Israeli soldiers who were in Lebanon occupying the Lebanese land of shebba farms)"
First of all, dickhead, it is disputed that Shebba Farms is "Lebanese land." Israel and the UN take the position that it is Syrian land which Israel captured the Golan Heights from Syria in the Six Day War. Syria and Lebanon now make the claim that it is Lebanese land in order to justify attacks against Israel.
Second, let's not forget how Israel came to occupy that land -- it was attacked by Arab countries in the region (albiet not Lebanon) seeking to eliminate Israel.
3:27---Second.
Dear "dickhead" and "asshole" -
you were made for each other.
*******
is it possible to have to make people register to post? seems like a lot of inane conspiracy theorist comments lately
If John Bolton is opposed by Obamiac left-wing anti-Semites like 2:11, Kirkland & Ellis must be proud to have him. Good on them.
http://www.shebaafarms.org/briefhistory.html
syria never, ever claimed that shebba farms was theirs. moreover, are you NOW recognizing the UN'a authority in this area. casue they have plenty ot say about you zionists
2:23 - i sincerely doubt you will be missed by K&E. good luck though, finding a firm that is morally acceptable to you. god knows you are far superior to most of us mere mortals
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said the Israeli-occupied Shebaa Farms belong to Lebanon. Assad told a news conference in Paris before ending a state visit to France, Beirut and Damascus will demarcate their countries' border at Shebaa Farms after Israel withdraws from the region. They will then submit a new map to the UN.
The Lebanese Resistance has vowed to keep up resistance operations in the area until Israel withdraws.
"casue they have plenty ot say about you zionists"
Racist AND a bad speller? Awesome.
4:14 why would he have to accept UN's authority? If he correctly points out that an organization he says is blatantly anti-israel, namely the UN, agrees with Israel on this matter, then it proves his point even if he thinks the UN is a joke.
don't have a dog in this fight but your reasoning is way off.
Regardless of what happens in the Middle East, we can all be comforted by the fact that Penn State will always have a second rate law school.
the only thing racism has to do with zionist is that zionist discriminate against other races. Zionist is a political/ideological term, not a racial one. You fool. Talk about my spelling......and I talk about your intellectual ineptness. Again, you fool
Mr. No Dog,
He states that the United nations is racist (his premise), and thus is not credible when it points out that Israel is practicing apartheid, racism, and other various crimes. (his conclusion). Then he seeks to INVOKE the U.N.’s credibility when saying that shebba farms is syria’s. Here is how it looks like in logic: the UN says Shebba farms is Syrian (conclusion) from which the following premise is assumed: that the U.N. is credible. In one sentence he is saying the UN is not credible, and in the other, he solely relies on its credibility. You have to keep an eye out for it, the zionists are particularly keen at playing both sides to their advantage.
Ah yes, if only those wicked Jews would pack up and get the hell out of the Mideast. Then everything in that neck of the woods would be swell, right?
Indeed, up until 1948, things were great there...those "Palestinians" sure were making the most of "their land." And ever since then, all of the neighboring Arab states have certainly set the bar rather high as to human rights, equality, education, science, medicine, business, and quality of life in general.
Colonel Sanders!
4:51 so eloquently posts - "the only thing racism has to do with zionist is that zionist discriminate against other races"
Let's pretend that Israel has NOTHING to do with Jews. Right. Zionist is only a political/ ideological term - what a pea brained twerp you have proven yourself to be!
4:51 so eloquently posts - "the only thing racism has to do with zionist is that zionist discriminate against other races"
Let's pretend that Israel has NOTHING to do with Jews. Right. Zionist is only a political/ ideological term - what a pea brained twerp you have proven yourself to be!
4:58
He says the UN is biased against israel and in favor of the palestinians. So it follows that it is significant when a known anti-israel group supports israel against the interests of the palestinians. it's so obvious that even an anti-israel group capitulates to this. that's his reasoning and it is sound.
explaining a fairly simple point twice is two times too many for me so make your incoherent response and rest assured you get the last word between us.
“Zionism is an international political movement.” You can find that elementary piece of knowledge in wikipedia, you fool! If you are in law school, drop out now. If you are working, give the money back and quit. If you are unemployed, stay that way.
Isn't it cliche now to disguise rank antisemitism by "limiting" your hate to Zionism? They did the same thing in (officially antisemitic) USSR, where the concept of zionism came to be used exclusively by anti-semites. To criticize "Zionists" is sort of like saying "some of my best friends are black." You are not fooling anyone.
As for the troll on this board, I'm ashamed to admit this, but I wish you and I could get into a sanctioned boxing match of some sort. I would love to beat this nonsense out of you - but without breaking any laws - of course.
506-explaining a fairly simple point ...
I dont know if you can read, or just have trouble keeping up. In any event, the discussion was about the U.N.'s position on the status of sheba farms, as it relates to lebanon or syria...had nothing to do with palestine. Sigh, talk about explaining a simple point. YOU FOOL!
You couldnt fight your way out of a wet paper bag.....you are going to need a bunch of people to even come to a draw in a fight with me....Kinda like israel needs the military might of the US to break even with hizbollah and their home made rockets. lmao!
Probably committed by some of the posters on this board.
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/191507,vandals-spray-paint-death-to-the-jews-inside-israeli-el-al.html
lol. Is that what you are reduced to? citing incidents of grafitti? lol. Great come back. seriously.
Sorry to break into this middle eastern hockey game with a Bolton memory, but he provoked the best comment in any Senate confirmation hearing in recent memory when Carl Ford, a former State Department Intelligence Chief, called him "The quintissential kiss-up, kick-down sort of guy." Bolton goes down in history for that one.
5:15 if you prefer, insert arab nation instead of palestinians. doesnt change the fact he's right and you're wrong.
its not what I prefer, its whats right and wrong. Its too funny that in a post in which you seek to sound scholarly and like you know what you are talking about, you make a critical and simple mistake of fact.
Especially in a discussion about logic. Facts act as premises and thus are of paramount importance in logic equations, and in everyday use. You should have learned that as a pre-law major at Footinmouth community college.
When did ATL become a message board for anti-semitic rants? And why can't you bigots stay on topic? The post was about Bolton joining a law firm, not the Elders of Zion or whatever other weird nonsense you are peddling.
Anon-aka Punon,
Sigh. Judging by some of your posts, you seem to have just enough intelligence to understand the concept of distinctions. For example, when I say zionists, you assume, foolishly, that I am being anti-semetic. Pat robertson is a huge zionist, yet he is not Jewish. Moreover, there are a substantial amount of jews, living all over the world and is Israel, who are against zionism. It is you, perhaps, that thinks all jews are zionists, a critical error. Your unsubstantiated assumptions does not enable you to cloak me in anti-semetism. Granted, you may be part of the population, some of which have posted here, that will do anything to equate the speaking out against the horrors of zionism, and the devastating effects of it here in the US and around the world, with anti-semitism. But, based on some of your posts, in which you have claimed to have attend a top school, clerked, and work for a big firm, I sincerely hope that you are simply misguided, and not part of the vicious group that seeks to hide the truth and inhibit justice. Mull this consept opver tonight at dinner as you chew your chicken curry. Good night everyone.
6:49 You ignored his point yet again.
Sorry, buddy, I hate to break it to you, but I was none of the people you are referring to. Do you think you are only arguing with one person? It looks to me like a half-dozen, maybe more... which is understandable, given the nature of your rant.
However, you have swayed me. I will mull "opver" a "consept" while I eat curry.
A lot of internet tough guys on this thread
So--I'm openly gay. Will that be an issue at KE given their conservative side (I'm a conservative myself but know that all my brethren aren't down with the gay thing)?
Any advice would be appreciated--2l going to KE in DC.
10:53 -- Ever heard of a guy named Charney?
Children, stop fighting.
Charney was at S&C.
K&E is too evil for me, and that's saying something.
@ Gay 2L going to Kirkland DC:
For a summer, no big deal. They treat you bad, they'll never recruit anyone from your school again, and might be barred outright by said school if it had to do with your orientation, which would be really ugly even for evil empire K&E.
Career?...When are students going to learn to research the damn firms they interview with? What were you thinking?
Seriously, I work at K&E DC and can hardly stomach this appointment. BUT, openly gay- not a problem at all here!! You don't even see these big wigs, they certainly don't dominate firm culture. The "Real People" here that are actually working are actually more liberal than you think, and no one, even the powers that be care if someone is white, black, gay, straight, purple or green if they are good at what they do.
9:31 couldn't be more wrong. Is that a joke?
Why would Republicans have a problem with open gays? Competition?