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‘Whereupon there is screaming’

This must be the most profanity-laced piece of transcript since Aaron Wider’s deposition. It’s the transcript from the sentencing hearing at which Assistant U.S. Attorney Carolyn Pokorny (E.D.N.Y.) was attacked by the defendant, before the court reporter and defense counsel tackled the assailant.

The transcript was prepared by Ron Tolkin, the court reporter involved in the incident, from an audio recording. Even the heroic Mr. Tolkin can’t simultaneously (1) kick the a** of a kid decades his junior, and (2) transcribe the proceedings for posterity.

Excerpts appear below. For the full transcript, see the link at the end of this post.

Victor Wright transcript Above the Law blog.jpg

Update: Another choice excerpt, pointed out by several of you in the comments:

Victor Wright Ron Tolkin Carolyn Pokorny Eastern District New York ATL.jpg

To read the full transcript, click here (PDF). If you do, the “press it in” discussion might be confusing (and sound completely filthy). An E.D.N.Y. source clarifies:

[“Pressing it in” refers] to the CSO, Marshalls and Deputy discussing how to activate the panic button. In the old E.D.N.Y. courthouse, you push in, but in the new one, you pull out.

Sentencing Hearing Transcript: United States v. Victor Wright (PDF)

Earlier: Lawyer of the Day: Harry Batchelder (And Court Reporter of the Day: Ron Tolkin)

Comments

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1 Posted by FIRST | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:03 PM

Holy crap!!

Was the court reporter typing all that at the same time?

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2 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:04 PM

SKILLS: Can type 100WPM and kick a cocksucker's ass at the same time

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3 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:04 PM

That court reporter deserves a raise for also fulfilling the job of a bouncer.

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4 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:05 PM

Awesome - The Court Reporter has an upcoming role in the third season of Deadwood (if there were a third season).

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5 Posted by A1 | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:06 PM

That is so steaksauce!

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6 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:06 PM

SteveHowe!

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7 Posted by Gallion | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:08 PM

Best. Court. Reporter. Ever.

Gallion OUT!

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8 Posted by U.S. Marshal Alvarez | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:09 PM

Get off of her.

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9 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:14 PM

Cocksucker!

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10 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:16 PM

are there drawings of the scene?

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11 Posted by Gallion | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:16 PM

The entire transcript is classic - the dialogue between the court reporter and courtoom deputy is priceless (e.g., "You're going to have to put this over." "No shit, sherlock.")

Gallion OUT!

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12 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:17 PM

Is it "cock sucker" or "cocksucker"?

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13 Posted by Mr. FIRST back again | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:20 PM

I love the periods as opposed to exclamation points. You cock sucker. Get off of her. U.S. Marshal Alvarez stays cool under pressure.

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14 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:20 PM

By the way, on page 7, the clerk tells the reporter, "No shit, Sherlock."

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15 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:22 PM

Ron Tolkin may be a hero, but he sounds homophobic (using "cocksucker" as an epithet).

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16 Posted by anonymous | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:24 PM

This court reporter should be immediately disciplined and terminated for his homophobic remarks.

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17 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:24 PM

I love how "The Court" has little to say during fiasco!

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18 Posted by McFly | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:29 PM

Hey you, get your damn hands off her!

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19 Posted by Sweargin | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:29 PM

There were THREE SEASONS OF DEADWOOD YOU MOTHERFUKCING COCKERSUCKER SONAFABATCH

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20 Posted by Gallion | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:29 PM

3:20:

By the way, at 3:16, I said that.

Ron Tolkin Rules!

Gallion OUT!

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21 Posted by wow | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:29 PM

The best part is the index at the end:

fuck [1] - 3:5
Fuck [1] - 6:10
fuckin [4] - 3:9, 3:15, 4:18, 7:20
Fuckin [1] - 4:23

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22 Posted by News | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:30 PM

The Court fled the bench during this, according to the news reports...

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23 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:31 PM

This would be a hilarious musical -- try singing as lyrics -- with "Get off of her" as the chorus!!! comedy gold.

could be a porn script too...

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24 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:31 PM

That is awesome.

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25 Posted by transfer | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:33 PM

3:17:

I believe that "cocksucker" is appropriate for this situation, however, once he is sentenced "cock sucker" becomes a more accurate label.

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26 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:35 PM

I like defendant's "I apoligize." In a transcript, it sounds so dignified, as if he merely belched before the Judge.

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27 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:35 PM

I hope the Court Reporter got to take a car home and get some seamless web dinner from Five Guys that night.

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28 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:35 PM

The Court did not "fle[e]" I was involved in the melee, but did not speak up for court reporter to record -- my mouth was full of [?] biting hard!

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29 Posted by Michael | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:37 PM

335: Thats what she said!!!

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30 Posted by Michael | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:37 PM

335: Thats what she said "my mouth was full)!!!

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31 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:40 PM

"The Court" left the courtroom for a brief period to make sure the marshalls were notified.

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32 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:40 PM

Don't tase me bro!

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33 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:43 PM

Pokorny was strangely silent during the attack... was she biting?

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34 Posted by yummmm | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:45 PM

five guys.

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35 Posted by anon | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:46 PM

so I thought this was really funny until it turned out the defendant had a razor blade and was going to cut her. damn. scary.

ok, so it's still pretty funny.

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36 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:46 PM

"I am terribly concerned about this."

The court.

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37 Posted by Cocksucker is an equal opportunity insult | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:49 PM

Whether male or female, a cocksucker is not something one aspires to.

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38 Posted by Awfully Cozy | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:54 PM

Does anyone else think the Court Reporter was a little too familiar with the prosecutor? I mean...he called her Carolyn all the time...at the beginning he even says to the Judge "Did you get Carolyn's latest submission?" And he seems just a little TOO emotionally involved in beating up the criminal...the US Marshals stay cool...but he gets all personal about it. Just an observation...

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39 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:58 PM

3:54: That's because there are a finite amount of ADAs / AUSAs that appear in court . . .so they become familiar with the court staff. This happens everywhere. No biggie.

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40 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:02 PM

A good cocksucker is hard to find. And a hard cock sucker is good to find.

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41 Posted by Anonymous | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:07 PM

This is completely inappropriate language to have on the front page, not to mention a public document. There could be women and children reading this site.

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42 Posted by gleaning the truly interesting info | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:10 PM

Seamless Web delivers Five Guys? What city?

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43 Posted by AUSA | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:10 PM

3:54 -- AUSAs and defense lawyers are in court all day long in front of the same group of judges, clerks and marshalls. a while back a defense lawyer was attacked by a defendant (stabbed in the arm w/ pen) and you had the same exact response.

no favoritism here, judges, AUSAs and CJA lawyers are very close, particlarly in the esteemed edny.

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44 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:11 PM

3:43 - (Whereupon there was screaming.)

Guess she's a screamer, still unclear whether she's a biter.

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45 Posted by Gallion | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:14 PM

4:02 best comment of the day

Gallion OUT!

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46 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:16 PM

3:54: Maybe he actually gives a shit about the well-being of a colleague. I know that's a foreign concept in BIGLAW.

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47 Posted by anon | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:21 PM

Is this for real? If so, why is the link to an ATL hosted PDF?

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48 Posted by Single female lawyer, having lots of sex | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:32 PM

Wait... if someone calls me a cocksucker that's an insult? And here I thought what I was getting were compliments.

Oh well, you'll never catch me suggesting "cunning linguist" is an insult.

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49 Posted by Women and children | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:35 PM

Naw, 4:07, we're okay with it.

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50 Posted by Gallion | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:44 PM

4:32: I love you!

Gallion OUT!

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51 Posted by UNKNOWN VOICE | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:48 PM

Thirty.

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52 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:50 PM

Going to the ultimate authority (said authority being George Carlin), the seven dirty words you can't say on TV are Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits. Clearly, Cocksucker is one word. See also Lenny Bruce.

Also, if you corksucking bastages can't handle a little profanity on the front page, I'm going to put your bells in a sling. I can't believe the farging iceholes on this site!

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53 Posted by U.S. Marshal Alvarez again | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:53 PM

Get off of her.

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54 Posted by EDNY Clerk | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:56 PM

4:10, I wish that were true, but unfortunately we in the EDNY have to schlep all the way over to Montague St. to get our Five Guys fix.

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55 Posted by Pricing the puppies | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:13 PM

Nice Johnny Dangerously reference, 4:50!

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56 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:26 PM

Why is the deputy making fun of the defendant in open court at the beginning of the hearing? That seems a little out of line.

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57 Posted by EDNY clerk | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:08 PM

5:26

The guy was in SHU for months and probably should have been shackled. hes absolutely crazy and was coming to be sentenced to life.

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58 Posted by EDNY clerk | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:10 PM

5:26

The guy was in SHU for months and probably should have been shackled. hes absolutely crazy and was coming to be sentenced to life.

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59 Posted by The Man | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:34 PM

How was the court reporter able to stenograph while beating someone?

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60 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:45 PM

Sweggen!

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61 Posted by West Coast | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:03 PM

In-N-Out > Five Guys

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62 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:50 PM

In-N-Out = most overrated chain ever.

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63 Posted by Another EDNY Clerk | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:56 PM

6:10, you didn't really answer 5:26's question. What's up with your (?) deputy clerk making fun of defendants? Seems pretty weird.

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64 Posted by elo | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:02 PM

I'm really missing a lot in arbitration....

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65 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:29 PM

Bring back SEN.

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66 Posted by Lisa | Permalink Friday, March 21, 2008 9:00 AM

It appears the Deputy Clerk started the thing by taunting the guy as he entered the courtroom. That's ridiculous. He should be disciplined, as it is inappropriate for court staff to be taunting a party, under any circumstances.

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67 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, March 21, 2008 9:19 AM

9:00 - How did the Deputy Clerk start this by taunting the guy - he had a razor... but then maybe all the defendants are allowed to bring razors to sentencing hearings in EDNY, just in case the Clerks decide to talk trash.

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68 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, March 21, 2008 9:24 AM

What was the "something new" in Ms. Pokorny's latest filing?

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69 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, March 21, 2008 10:12 AM

He may have been planning the attack anyway but the deputy clerk's taunting was still totally inappropriate.

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70 Posted by Just another EDNY clerk | Permalink Friday, March 21, 2008 10:27 AM

Yeah, the deputy clerk should not have been mocking the defendant. And while I can understand (and approve) the language toward the scumbag defendant during the attack, they should have toned it down once he was subdued.

Def. att'y was cut up by the razor and involved in the scuffle, but you don't hear a word from him.

Tolkin always runs a little digital recorder in his pocket for backup, that's how he got this.

Who thinks the marshalls were doing their job here? 3:29 and 4:53 have it right -- Marshal Alvarez should be renamed McFly.

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71 Posted by McManus | Permalink Friday, March 21, 2008 10:41 AM

Gimme the fucking keys, you fucking cocksucker motherfucker

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72 Posted by Anonymous | Permalink Friday, March 21, 2008 11:26 AM

To not only kick a cocksucker's ass, but to simultaneously transcribe the kicking of said cocksucker's ass, establishes one as a certified pimp. Tolkin to $190k!

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73 Posted by Another EDNY Clerk | Permalink Friday, March 21, 2008 11:48 AM

10:27, what gives you the impression that the marshal wasn't doing his job? Just because Alvarez wasn't as loquacious as Tolkin during the incident doesn't mean he wasn't kicking ass too.

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74 Posted by One Who Was There | Permalink Sunday, March 23, 2008 5:33 PM

This is amazing. I love all of this Monday morning quarterbacking. What actually happened was the courtroom deputy whispered to Mr. Rabkin, the other AUSA present, his comment about the defendant. It was not an insult. He whispered that the defendant looked better this time. The defendant did not hear him. As for Deputy Marshal Alvarez and Vavasis, they were superb in performing their job. Try stopping someone the size of a linebacker from going three feet and strangling someone when they want to. It takes time to accomplish this. Stopping this defendant took five people. It was the other AUSA, the two deputies, the defense attorney and the court reporter. The language of the court reporter was a spontaneous reaction on his part. The words had no meaning except to distract the defendant from harming Ms. Pokorny. It would have been nice to say, "Mr. Wright please remove your hands from Ms. Pokorny's throat and please do not cut her throat with that razor. It is not what you are permitted to do in the U.S. District Court. I think the words used helped to get the results achieved.
The court reporter is not homophobic. He has a niece with her own daughter who enjoys a lesbian relationship. He has a nephew who is homosexual. He has a wonderful relationship with both of them.

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