ATL March April Madness: And the winner is...
One of our readers from Cleary an unnamed firm expressed disappointment in the poll’s closing at midnight PST instead of EST. ATL believes in time zone equity and refused to exercise a New York East Coast bias.
The caveat on this ATL tournament is that Latham is the “coolest” law firm in the Vault’s top sixteen, due to our arbitrary tournament selection for the Sweet Sixteen. There was some complaining about the tournament in the comments section, but we think you guiltily and secretly loved it. At least, 2000 of you did. Should the ATL tournament start with 64 firms next time?
Maybe Latham will use the 2008 ATL title of “coolest” firm in their recruiting next year. We sure hope so.
The voting map surprised us, after the jump.
Despite a preponderance of East Coast voters, L.A.-based founded Latham pulled off the win.
Earlier: ATL March April Madness for Law Firms, Final Round: Cleary vs. Latham

FIRST to congratulate Latham and to hate this new format.
Who likes Cleary in North Dakota?
Who likes Cleary in North Dakota?
BRING BACK THE BLUE BOXES!!! THIS WEBSITE IS USELESS TO BUSY ATTORNEYS WITHOUT THE HIGHLIGHTED SNIPPETS!!!
For all intents and purposes, L&W is no longer "based" in L.A. Center of gravity is East Coast - the NYC office is not only bigger than L.A., but also busier and more profitable. DC is arguably the most prestigious office.
Happy to be a summer associate at LW. The coolest firm on the planet.
The vote was exactly the same at Midnight Eastern so it didn't make a difference.
The vote was exactly the same at Midnight Eastern so it didn't make a difference.
Nobody voted in Arizona, Idaho, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, Missourri, Mississippi, Georgia or Nevada. Maybe they don't have the internets there. Or maybe they haven't heard of LW or CGSH yet.
L&W seems to win everything on this site. I officially quit ATL. Not only have the topics been asinine for the last 2 weeks, but this new format is horrendous.
Nobody voted in Arizona, Idaho, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, Missourri, Mississippi, Georgia or Nevada. Maybe they don't have the internets there. Or maybe they haven't heard of LW or CGSH yet.
Guys in my high school used to update web page design layouts, selecting a user interface that was cumbersome and aesthetically unpleasing all the time, it was no big deal.
FRAT STUD
It is really cool how everyone is posting under a name with a picture to the left!!! Although it seems like "guest" just uses some lame stock photo that is more a siloutte than anything. He also posts a lot.
this format is annoying
Lat, Please post (or link to) the actual, interactive map instead of a JPG.
Thanks,
Faceless, bald, male guest
Lat, this sucks so far. When I want to comment I want to comment RIGHT NOW. I don't want to have to wait for another page to load slowly.
This new format needs to go the way of SEN.
Don't ignore the will of the people Lat.
Although it is good to see that the annoying wait before you know if your comment "took," which leads to double postings, still exists. Well done.
Lat, you have pre-emptively ruined Earth Day and Arbor Day. Thanks a lot!
Hey 1:17,
Don't you mean "for all intensive purposes"? God, you are dumb.
PHRASE STUD
Hey,
This commenting format is going to reduce participation on the message boards.
And it really sucks that we can't use funny names to sign our posts. Drop the sign in feature since no one in their right mind will ever use their real name. Also, please drop the picture feature since no one in their right mind will ever put up a real picture.
Respectfully submitted,
Bob Link
Hey,
This commenting format is going to reduce participation on the message boards.
And it really sucks that we can't use funny names to sign our posts. Drop the sign in feature since no one in their right mind will ever use their real name. Also, please drop the picture feature since no one in their right mind will ever put up a real picture.
Respectfully submitted,
Bob Link
I think we know Lat's type...
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In related news, today's ATL offerings = The Boringest.
Hmmm...things are moving noticeably faster now. Is everyone on the East Coast out to lunch at the moment?
Representing Scientology sure is cool!
Phrase Stud at 1:48, the phrase is absolutely "for all intents and purposes". Not sure if that was a bad joke or if you were serious.
Hey PHRASE STUD,
You are dumb. What's an "intensive purpose"?
STUD
Wow. You guys totally missed Phrase Stud's joke. Durrrrr...
this new format SUCKS
if its not changed back im not posting or reading comments, which is the only reason i come to this site
WHOOAAA!
Joey Lawrence (upon seeing the new ATL site)
2:03(1) & (2) = new to ATL.
Problems with new format:
1) No name for posting. This was half the fun and half the information.
2) The picture. Will never be used, ever.
Good things about new format:
1) Additional information like commented / viewed / recomended.
2) Watching everyone freak out.
3) I notice the ads less (maybe just me).
This is still the dumbest poll ever.
Lat, you seriously want L&W to use this poll? Are you kidding me? Would you hire a lawyer that they made a career choice based in any part on a poll of 2,000 people on an online "legal tabloid" for which law firm is the "coolest?"
Beyond the idiocy of the poll itself, the .6% margin of "victory" is WELL within the margin of how many L&Wers voted for their own firm.
Stupid stupid stupid.
2:03[1] & [2]:
Your points are mute.
PHRASE STUD
This really is the dumbest thing I've seen in a long time.......
2:13
Don't you mean L&Wyers, not L&Wers?
Hey Lat/Kash,
Why don't you eliminate the votes from Latham's and Cleary's IP addresses, and then tell us how many votes were cast and what the result is?
I didn't think so.
Is anyone else tired of NY L&W associates whining whenever someone mentions that L&W is an LA firm?
We know you are miserable in your 300 sq. ft. studio and desparately try daily to tell yourself that you're not a prestige whore and that living in NY actually makes you happy. But no one cares. If it makes you feel better, call L&W a New York firm in your little circle, but no one needs to see that here. So shut up. Typing this is cutting into my beach time.
-so glad not to be in nyc
Damn is this lame---I had no idea where to enter my comment as a guest so i logged in as guest and guessed that the password for the guest log in was guest, so entering guest and guest got me to post as guest.
How can a poll measure how "cool" a law firm is, if it relies on losers who actually take the time to go and vote and thus, have probably never experienced "cool" in the real world? Doesn't this poll REALLY measure "wanna-be cool"?
I think the delay that causes all the double-posting has finally stopped.
KASH - OVERTHROW LAT AND BRING BACK THE OLD FORMAT.
I think the delay that causes all the double-posting has finally stopped.
2:13 - Kash wrote it, not Lat
KASH - OVERTHROW LAT AND BRING BACK THE OLD FORMAT.
I think the delay that causes all the double-posting has finally stopped.
Hey,
This commenting format is going to reduce participation on the message boards.
And it really sucks that we can't use funny names to sign our posts. Drop the sign in feature since no one in their right mind will ever use their real name. Also, please drop the picture feature since no one in their right mind will ever put up a real picture.
Respectfully submitted,
Bob Link
Also, this new site about crashes my blackberry, and I can't click through to the "below the fold" postings or comments on it.
bberry stud
Phrase stud obviously went to UVA. Way to embarrass an otherwise wonderful learning institution. Everyone hates you now.
This format sucks. NO MOAR! BACK TO THE WAY IT USED TO BE!!!!!!
I think the delay that causes all the double-posting has finally stopped.
I voted from GA. Where is my bubble on the map?
Also, this new site about crashes my blackberry, and I can't click through to the "below the fold" postings or comments on it.
bberry stud
lat, the new format is terrible and now the comments are even SLOWER to load (didn't think that was possible)
if its not broke don't fix it - what was so bad about the old format?
i second the calls for kash to stage a coup... mutiny on the blog-y!!!
2:19 - I wrote the post about L&W not being a CA firm and I am an associate in CA , so your little anti-NYC rant is misguided. Also, it's too cold today in SoCal for the beach, so I'm guessing you're actually some associate at a TTT in the Midwest.
New ATL website = new Coke formula.
I must protest this unjust result.
By the mere fact that Cleary extended an offer to Aquagirl after her nearly nude swan dive off the Chelsea Piers--in the presence of the managment commitee and major clients of the firm, Clearly is the coolest firm for life.
OR, I was joking about the beach. Not so bright over there, are we 4:27?
Anyway, thanks for using the phrase SoCal and demonstrating that, while you might LIVE in "SoCal," you will actually never be from here. So, I'd invite you to return to the TTT Midwest you describe post haste and stop clogging our roadways.
Though, I am pretty sure that you are actually from the DC office (if you work at Latham at all). The hints being: (1) that NO ONE at Latham thinks of the DC office as the "most presitigious"; (2) you said the center of gravity is East Coast instead of just saying NYC (so this means you aren't in NYC); (3) NO ONE from LA would ever write "L.A."; and (4) you wrote "DC," and not "D.C."; because like LA, nobody in DC would EVER write "D.C."
I should have been a private investigator. I'm kind of amazing at it.
OR, I was joking about the beach. Not so bright over there, are we 4:27?
Anyway, thanks for using the phrase SoCal and demonstrating that, while you might LIVE in "SoCal," you will actually never be from here. So, I'd invite you to return to the TTT Midwest you describe post haste and stop clogging our roadways.
Though, I am pretty sure that you are actually from the DC office (if you work at Latham at all). The hints being: (1) that NO ONE at Latham thinks of the DC office as the "most presitigious"; (2) you said the center of gravity is East Coast instead of just saying NYC (so this means you aren't in NYC); (3) NO ONE from LA would ever write "L.A."; and (4) you wrote "DC," and not "D.C."; because like LA, nobody in DC would EVER write "D.C."
I should have been a private investigator. I'm kind of amazing at it.
OR, I was joking about the beach. Not so bright over there, are we 4:27?
Anyway, thanks for using the phrase SoCal and demonstrating that, while you might LIVE in "SoCal," you will actually never be from here. So, I'd invite you to return to the TTT Midwest you describe post haste and stop clogging our roadways.
Though, I am pretty sure that you are actually from the DC office (if you work at Latham at all). The hints being: (1) that NO ONE at Latham thinks of the DC office as the "most presitigious"; (2) you said the center of gravity is East Coast instead of just saying NYC (so this means you aren't in NYC); (3) NO ONE from LA would ever write "L.A."; and (4) you wrote "DC," and not "D.C."; because like LA, nobody in DC would EVER write "D.C."
I should have been a private investigator. I'm kind of amazing at it.
4:59/5:05
Except for the Socal comment. There are plenty of us born and raised there that regularly use Socal. Mostly because we hate when people refer to LA as including everything from Santa Barbara to San Diego. Don't quit your day job.
5:12:
AHA! You said you were born and raised "there," not "here." You haven't been around for a while. The term "SoCal" has fallen out of favor.
No, just kidding. It is used. But the key is this. The only time we actually use the phrase SoCal is to distinguish from NorCal (also known as NoCal, in some circles). No one says "I live in SoCal" when talking to someone either: (1) in SoCal; or (2) from some other part of the country. The way it was used was not quite accurate, because there was no confusion about what part of California we were talking about.
Also, I guess that 5:12 is from Orange County.
Come on, give me props. I'm right.
I've never met a single person from SoCal that calls it SoCal.
It's outdated. People in the 80s said SoCal. People now don't.
Wow! Lawyers complain a lot. I like the new format. It is very modern. And I like you too Lat :) I think you are cool!
Whatever happened with the C&D letters from L&W?
Neo-nativism alive and strong in "Socal". If all you have for validation is the fact that you grew up in CA, good luck to you. Everyone is super-impressed.
1. do it again with 64
2. get rid of this new format
3. show international votes
Is there some kind of rule that only the biggest obnoxious losers can comment on this site? SHEESH! Get a life, people.
10:13 You mean this C&D letter to all LW lawyers?
http://watkins.latham.googlepages.com/