Kirkland rules.

anyone know if quinn covers brokers fees/moving fees within new york?

How do you find out about benefits and their details if the firm is not listed here?

If the firm is not listed here, you should consider a new firm.

Question: for all the hours that Wachtell lawyers have to work, and given total comp of $320K or so last year (115K over market), how badly do the lack of additional perks start to cut into the difference?

So, $1K stipend versus thousands more for a CSM, S&C or DPW associate. A much less enjoyable summer experience (and less costly for the firm too). Much less free time generally, and possibly fewer additional perks (vacation time?) Anyone tried to add up the difference, particularly vacation time (which, if different could amount to $15K+). Granted the chance of making partner is higher at WLRK, but given who you are competing against (work ethic-wise) maybe that is a bit misleading too. Thoughts?

Does Clifford Chance really offer a $10k stipend as a relocation perk, or is that really a reference to the $10k salary advance (not stipend) offered to all incoming associates?

"Granted the chance of making partner is higher at WLRK. . ."

1:07, what are you soft? who says it's easier to make partner there?

re stipend package, even though WLRK appears to be cheap, the difference from S&C, CSM is not significant (esp. given the much higher total comp at WLRK, as you point out).

bottom line: no person in their right mind should make a decision affecting both their carreer and personal life based on an extra $1K for moving expenses.

Weil offered me $4K. I didn't know that others were getting offered direct billing of all expenses...interesting.

Anyone have information on Schulte's moving/relocation benefits?

why is Skadden being so cheap? No direct bill?

White & Case isn't here.

Please include whether these apply to laterals!

Paul Hastings explicity does not cover the costs of moving your car, which costs at least $1000 if you're moving cross-country. Another fun little moving surprise.

Hmmm, Weil offered me 6...

the obvious thing here is negotiate before you accept.

these days gas is getting crazy expensive. i would guess that moving half way across the country for a normal two-three person household will cost at least 15k.

if the firm wants you that bad, 5k is chump change to them and their multiple hundreds of millions of revenue. and they will squeeze that 5k out of you like an orange in the first couple of months, so no worries.

only thing i would suggest is making sure any repayment claus for early departure is pro-rata.

I emphatically second 2:32 on at least one point: Make damn sure that the repayment clause is pro rata (and not just for moving expenses; for bar leave stipends and bar study expenses, too, if you're a lateral to a new state), or at least negotiate it down to something like 3 or 6 months. This is not unreasonable, but many firms will try to screw you for at least 1 year, which if you're junior trying to get experience (or senior with a limited look for partnership), can be a very significant period of time.

<3, Disgruntled lateral tied to new firm for 1 year who doesn't have $25k to buy his way out.

Do firms pay if you want to change apartments, but actually live within the city you are going to work in?

If they don't, it's a pity, 'cause moving apartments ain't always cheap either....

Do firms for you if you want to change apartments, but actually live within the city you are going to work in?

If they don't, it's a pity, 'cause moving apartments ain't always cheap either....

SA will do direct billing and (I hear) adjusts moving costs with the market.

Cravath covers brokers fees and closing costs up to 3500 (which they pay as a taxable bonus), but not more than that - the chart should perhaps be adjusted to reflect that.

Also Cravath will SPLIT the cost with you of a flight to NY and 2 nights in a hotel to find housing - this is also paid a taxable bonus, so you are bearing the bulk of the cost.

Also Cravath will SPLIT the cost with you of a flight to NY and 2 nights in a hotel to find housing - this is also paid a taxable bonus, so you are bearing the bulk of the cost.

Yes, firms pay if you want to move across town because it's closer to your new job. They also generally pay for a broker fees whenever you change apartments, maximum of once per year. Finally, good places will send mailroom staff to pack and wrap all your stuff. Note that this last one is New York specific, and is because we don't usually have as much stuff.

3:58 is bs, right?

3:58 does sound like bs, but I know that S&C will pay moving expenses even if you have been living in the city before--the only difference is that if you move within the city (defined as less than 50 miles from the office or sg similar), the expenses are taxable compensation, whereas if you move from farther away, it's not.

I don't think the Latham information is correct. The brochure of benefits I received specifically said the firm won't pay for car shipping. It also made no mention of apartment brokers fees (in NY). These survey results may be based on what firms did last year, which could have significantly changed in light of the market.

Can anyone confirm or offer insight on Latham, particularly in NY?

FFHSJ gave me a 3k stipend this past fall. Not sure if it's been changed since.

Skadden does not pay to move your car and will not adjust the reimbursement amount for the location, above $4000.