Way to scoop drudge (but not cnn). How'd you hear?

who cares?! they're all a bunch of socialists. go ron paul!!

surprise. another lie edwards tells us about not endorsing anyone. so much for keeping his political capital for things he "cares" about like poverty etc. an amazingly shallow politician....

As if Obama wasn't a lock already. Who cares.

God damn America!

- BHO

Maybe he is trying to ingratiate himself so he'll get the nod for VP and not Hillary.

Dear Republicans:

You are not allowed to take shots at any candidate. You gave us Bush. You are banned from putting down any political figure. Ever.

Bush = Worst. President. Ever.

No upside to endorsing HRC at this point. And if Edwards does not endorse now, no point in endorsing anyone. It is the smart move--unless Barack gets hit by a truck before June 3.

Finally.

Dear 5:34:

Please tell me you are not a law student or a lawyer. And what rock did you just crawl out from under.

Thanks Edwards, do you think that might have been a bit more useful, say YESTERDAY where you got 7% f the W. Va. vote (about 30% of Obama's overall take) despite being out the race for weeks?

John Edwards
*Still a day late
*Still a dollar short

Thanks Edwards, do you think that might have been a bit more useful, say YESTERDAY where you got 7% f the W. Va. vote (about 30% of Obama's overall take) despite being out the race for weeks?

John Edwards
*Still a day late
*Still a dollar short

5:33 -
Bush = Worst. President. Ever.????

I imagine you don't know anything about the presidencies of Andrew Johnson (opposed reconstruction, including the 14th amendment) or James Buchanan (who did nothing to curb slavery or the impending Civil War).

5:41 - I think this was planned. Edwards might have helped yesterday, but it would still be a loss. Bad news (loss) followed by good news (endorsement) is better than good news (endorsement) followed by bad news (loss). That's true even if the second bad news is bigger than the first. At least it is in politics and BCS rankings.

Edwards is really putting his political clout at risk here with such a bold move; however, guys in my high school use to endorse anti-american, tax-hiking, presidential candidates all the time. It was no big deal.

Other presidents who did nothing to curb slavery: George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, et al. Nice argument, 5:47.

5:33 also knows nothing about FDR: depression, New Deal (including the rediculous social security system), court packing, unprecedented expansion of the Federal government, Pearl Harbor, giving away Eastern Europe to Stalin.

Imagine if Bush tried to get legislation that added seats to the Supreme Court that he could fill because he didn't like their decisions!

FDR = Worst! President! Ever!

6:04 - I couldn't agree more. We need Supreme Court justices who will begin to find each New Deal program (starting with social security) unconstitutional!

Yeah, FDR caused the Depression. You might want to re-open your history book, bozo.

5:33 also is ignorant as to the Carter administration: Iranian hostage crisis, lines at gas prices, economy in the complete crapper, taxes at 70%...

I by no means agree with everything Bush has done, but he is not even close to the worst president ever. 25 years from now, history will judge him favorably.

Didn't FDR also round up Asian Americans into concentration camps?

You know it's a great post when the justification for the post is longer than the substance.

6:09
You have it backwards. We need Supreme Court justices who will begin to find more New Deal type programs implied in the constitution. 9th Amendment baby!

I'll take a "do-nothing" President over a "do-lots-of-crazy-stupid-criminal-shit" President any day.

6:04 - I was just going to say that. FDR seriously was the worst president ever. It's one of my personal missions to make more people realize this.

"I by no means agree with everything Bush has done, but he is not even close to the worst president ever. 25 years from now, history will judge him favorably."

6:13 = Peggy Noonan.

He did indeed, 6:13. And then his successor, the lovely Truman, dropped atomic bombs on two cities when Japan was already trying to surrender. Things just kept getting better and better with that whole administration.

FDR didn't start the depression. He just made it worse and let it fester for almost a decade before getting us into a war that cost 420,000 American lives.

Yeah, not 4,000. 420,000.

6:10 - Actually, the primary cause of the depression was Federal Reserve, which, in all of its wisdom, allowed the monetary base to decrease by 1/3 between 1929-1933. That, combined with both Hoover and FDR's (shameful) protectionist policies, contributed to the depression. It is, however, well-documented that FDR's New Deal programs during the 1930s exacerbated the economic problems, and we began to recover only because of World War II. I've read my history book, and the verdict is clear: FDR was a horrible president.

"6:04 - I was just going to say that. FDR seriously was the worst president ever. It's one of my personal missions to make more people realize this."

If the world were truly equitable, FDR would still be alive and your mouth would be his toilet.

"He did indeed, 6:13. And then his successor, the lovely Truman, dropped atomic bombs on two cities when Japan was already trying to surrender. Things just kept getting better and better with that whole administration."

They were askin' for it. Fancy emperor w/ all his shiny robes n' shit.

Wow - a lot of nutjobs here. FDR is easily in the HYS of presidents.

"Rediculous" = Redneck

Unusually whacko thread (though not worst ever). Exams must be over and all that kiddie testosterone has no place to go.

Edwards is not one of the top lawyers in the country. He was one of the top trial lawyers in NC. Big difference. He was no Dickie Scruggs. Pre-indictment, of course:-)

Oh cry me a swimming pool, Edwards. Take your 28 delegates and suck 'em down the drain!

-HRC

History will judge Bush, who violated the Constitution left and right and put the country in more rather than less danger with his idiotic neo-conservative policies favorably. Right.

I'm sorry, 6:18, are we now arguing that WWII was a bad thing? You would prefer a Nazi Europe/Africa and an Asis under slavery to Japan? Continuation of concentration camps?

I hear you on New Deal economics, but rest is a joke. Depression started under previous Admin, Cold War begun under Truman (to say he gave away Eastern Europe is a statment that makes you, 5;33, seem very very stupid. He did this from beyond the grave?). Equating WWII to this shit war in Iraq is disgusting. One was honorable, for prinicpals and in response to a direct attack. The other was a cock up, preempted oil grab that has harmed US Security.

I write this as a proud Republican, proud because there is no way Bush or his Admin will be judged by History to have been Republicans. (Increased spending, no balance, foreign wars, butting into peoples lives).

6:13(2)

wait, you're dissing FDR for that? i thought republicans liked to lock up and humiliate minorities who have likely done nothing wrong.

E.g., Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, slavery.

Do you think Edwards would have done otherwise? After all, NC overwhelmingly supported Obama. It would be political suicide for Edwards to support a candidate that people in his home state, i.e., his constituency for when he makes a run, yet again, for office, rejected.

6:13 - How does a president cause "lines at gas prices"?

7:17: Your ignorance is amazing. Do a little research about all the people who were released from Gitmo and went on to commit more terrorist attacks. Regardless of how you feel about the treatment there, 99.99999% of the inmates are guilty.

And slavery was a decidedly DEMOCRAT institution. Lincoln was a Republican. Duh.

No president violated the Constitution more than FDR. He basically saw it as a nuisance obstacle to his socialist ideology.

Some of the neocons should tone down the rhetoric a little bit on FDR. The WSJ ranked FDR as the #3 president in 2005.

http://www.fee.org/publications/notes/notes/Dancing.asp

http://www.polartcenter.com/URLrewrite.asp?404;http://polartcenter.com:80/American_Betrayal_Franklin_Roosevelt_Casts_Polan_p/9702643.htm&Redirected=Y

I still wont vote for 10% more in taxes!!! And more when I dont trust, like or care about Obama. Sorry!!

I like FDR, but I'm a socialist.

Barama will never be president.

I don't see what all the argument is about. FDR was clearly one of the worst presidents. Every knowledgeable historian agrees on this.

Wait; I mean they say he was one of the best.

Breaking news...

Who gives a crap about John Edwards?

Obama's wife scares me. I think I saw her on a video on youtube beating up a girl in a school yard fight.

Republicans -

You've screwed us all with 8 years of Bush. Please don't screw us again with 4 years of McCain!

5:57: Your ignorance is absolutely astounding. Jefferson signed the act banning the importation of slaves on March 3, 1807, to take effect January 1, 1808, the earliest date permitted by Art. 1 Sec. 9 of the Constitution.

Don't they teach con law in law school or history in high school anymore??!

haha, 8:37, your deuche-baggery is pretty astounding

8:45: Right; I'm a douchebag b/c few on this board know even the most basic facts about American history. Guilty as charged.

signed,
8:37

8:37 = that guy that corrects people's grammar mistakes at a dinner party.

I love W. Iraq will prove to have been a great idea 20 years from now. I look forward to seeing McCain finish the job.

As Colbert would say: Where does he get courage?!?!?

People give FDR extra props b/c of the polio. It is a sympathy vote

***** ENDORSEMENT *****

- Roger Lou of America's University, Washington College of Law writing to say he if he was a citizen who could vote, he would voting for Barak Hussain.
- Because Roger no can vote, he -- like the great Sen. John Edwards and Chief Justice John Roberts -- endorses Sen. Hussain.

With respect,
诶比西

I love riling up idiot conservatives. It's so easy.

gee, way to stick your neck out, Edwards!

7:51- is that a fact or just your opinion re: 99.9999% of Gitmo inmates? If it's a fact, then provide a source. I already know you can't though, jackass.

Second, it's disingenuous in the extreme when conservatives point to Lincoln when they want to show how racially sensitive they are regarding slavery or minorities, then the next minute, bash affirmative action, immigration, out-sourcing to India or China, and anyone with a name that sounds like a 9/11 hijacker (e.g. moronically making a big deal out of Senator Obama's middle name). Consistency counts, people. Own your backwards, insensitive policies. I respect principled idiocy much more than uninformed ignorance.

Conservatives, wake up. You can peddle whatever nonsense about FDR or any democrat that you want. Meanwhile, your Republican politicians are running roughshod over the Constitution, making life generally worse for everyone in this country, including almost all those who read this board (i.e., those who are not private equity or hedge fund directors, law firm partners, or i-bank execs), and overreaching so much that fairly soon there is going to be an enormous liberal backlash. Recent polls show that the Millenial generation (those born between 1980 and 2000) overwhelmingly distrust and disapprove of conservative policies. I wonder what that harpy Ann Coulter would say about a President Obama refusing to comply with Congressional subpoenas? Something like, "he's totally abusing executive power!!!" Of course, Obama is not likely to do anything to even get us down that road to begin with. Unlike W, he has intelligence.

Finally, when Senator Obama is elected over McCain (whose Straight Talk Express lost it's wheels (and bearings) and is in a ditch somewhere), conservatives are going to regret all of the excess power we Americans allowed Bush to acquire as president, if Obama acts in any way like Bush and decides to be a monarch. Fortunately, though, Obama is not a power-hungry, war-mongering buffoon.

Good luck, fools.

10:28-

I don't think McCain will live to 283 years of age- he said it would be 100 years from now before he wants to leave Iraq.

Neocons=TTT

11:09-

My name is Mrs. Roger Lou. Please do not talk in voice of former husband with honor Roger Lou. He is gone with spirits of ancient Mings and now dead. He has no dog in race of Senator Alabama and Senile McCain, just like he has no dog in race of UPenn State vs. UPenn State Philly campus.

With respects.

Mrs. 诶比西

12:44, sing it, my brother from another mother. 7:51 obviously has small anatomy.

12:44: "Meanwhile, your Republican politicians are running roughshod over the Constitution, making life generally worse for everyone in this country, including almost all those who read this board (i.e., those who are not private equity or hedge fund directors, law firm partners, or i-bank execs), and overreaching so much that fairly soon there is going to be an enormous liberal backlash."

Actually, 12:44, our current Republican presidential candidate wants to end waterboarding and close down Guantanamo. He also has absolutely no desire to combat illegal immigration and/or cut back the welfare state. Not only that, but McCain fully embraces the environmentalist agenda and stem cell research; he opposed the federal marriage amendment; he likely will appoint left-wing justices on the Supreme Court (since they are the only ones who will uphold McCain-Feingold) and he once said that Pat Robertson is basically as bad as Jesse Jackson. Sadly, the Republican Party today is moving in this direction.

I for one wouldn't mind to see McCain lose in November. But if he does, it sure won't be for a failure to get the votes of centrists and moderate liberals; it will be because those of us who have been fighting to make this country stronger and better cannot in good conscience support a man who, not unlike you, and despite his honorable record of service, has asolutely no appreciation for traditional American values.

Fed Soc

Fed Soc- doubtful. McCain is simply pandering to both right-wingers and moderates at the same time. In his mind, inconsistency=straight talk. It's all bullshit. We republicans have nothing to hope for..... Ron Paul in 2012!

"I wonder what that harpy Ann Coulter would say about a President Obama refusing to comply with Congressional subpoenas? Something like, 'he's totally abusing executive power!!!'"

If Obama were ever accused of abusing of his executive power, it would probably be for, I don't know, rounding up members of the Minutemen illegally or forcing searches in the homes of pro-life activists, etc. What the Minutemen and pro-life activists have in common (and what Guantanamo detainees lack) is that they are U.S. citizens. So, unlike foreign terrorists (or, for that matter, any foreigners with no connection to the United States, see, e.g. Johnson v. Eisentrager), they are entitled to constitutional rights, and I would hope that conservative intellectuals like Ann Coulter would denounce this as abuse of executive power. If Obama were to take a strong stance against foreign terrorists, however, I can assure you that Coulter wouldn't be the one to fault him (I have no doubt she would have other reasons to question his extreme liberalism in any case).

Fed Soc

1:29: McCain is sure pandering to as many constituencies as possible, but his true sympathies are not with the conservatives. As for Ron Paul, I disagree with his foreign policy, but I can't help but admire his integrity. I would have supported him over McCain.

Fed Soc

Whoa, 7:17... there are "minorities" in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo?! That's news to me.

As for how history will judge the current president, it's hard to say. Of course, most Clinton supporters in 2000 would have argued that history would judge Clinton very well. Time will tell, but so far it's not looking very good for Clinton. (And the recent exposure of him and his wife as racists won't help much. But perhaps it won't hurt, because people seem to have forgotten already).

It's too early to say with GWB. He won't be considered a beloved president, but he's most certainly consequential. Someday, there will be more significant positive turns in the Middle East. And it will be hard not to give GWB some credit for it.

Keep dreaming, fools.

"Minorities" as in different from their captors in terms of race, culture, etc. These people weren't locked up BECAUSE of their race (it is not clear in the majority of the cases why they were locked up at all, other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time), but captors such as Lynndie England sure had a good time humiliating them using tactics that were offensive to their religion.

Before you get into some "you're just another person who hates America" rant, I love my country, and, as a lawyer, I've taken an oath to defend the Constitution. This is a great country for many reasons. But it is also a place with a troubled history that we as whites, the dominant race, largely ignore. We should be ashamed and apologetic about our actions concerning slavery, Korematsu, Vietnam, Iraq and Guantanamo Bay. It is time to move forward and try to understand people, in an attempt to reconcile differences, rather than accentuate our differences with other peoples or with each other. Say whatever you want, but FDR, Clinton and Carter will all have strong, positive legacies, whether it is related to their presidencies or post-presidency activities. Disparaging them won't change the fact that Bush has really screwed all of us, Dems and Republicans alike. There's no point on focusing on that either though. The only logical idea is to start trying to find common ground and expel from office those politicians, dem or republican, who serve themselves rather than the people.

I love all of the Republican "comebacks." So cute in their ignorance and confidence. You can be stupid or you can be confident, but you can't be both.

9:14: "But it is also a place with a troubled history that we as whites, the dominant race, largely ignore."

You cannot be serious. Our country is literally obsessed with the things that we have done wrong in the past. History classes in public schools emphasizes this over all that is good about America. There are entire departments on college campuses that are based only on this. Political commentators (liberal and conservative) routinely mention slavery, etc. It baffles me that anyone would think that we largely ignore this history.

I am not a defender of the Korematsu ruling, but there are certainly reasonable arguments that can be made in its defense (see Michelle Malkin). We went to Vietnam to defend our allies from the treat of a communist dictatorship; if we should be "ashamed" of our actions there, it would be for withdrawing and abandoning our allies and not anything else. And we went to Iraq in large part to liberate the people as well. How could we be "ashamed" of this?

Detainees in Guantanamo are treated excessively well. So are their Korans. They are perhaps treated better than any prisoners of war in history. There have been abuses in Abu Ghraib (as I am sure there have been abuses of prisoners of war in any war in history), and they were quickly remedied when they came to light.

I am not sure why I even bother proving you wrong; as someone who cites Jimmy Carter's "post-presidency activities" positively (does that include meeting Hamas and saying that Israel's apartheid policies are worst than South Africa's?), your views are well beyond the realm of reasonable views even if your rhetoric is not openly anti-American.

Fed Soc

9:14 writes: "You can be stupid or you can be confident, but you can't be both."

if you want to be a two-term President, you can.

Fed Soc- why don't you volunteer yourself for a stay at Gitmo if the detainees are treated excessively well?

What's a Fed Sock?

Wow. People really know very little about U.S. history.

People, it's a prison / detention center. It's not meant to be the Four Seasons. But as far as abuses and insensitivity at Gitmo, there's not much evidence of it at an institutional elvel. The evidence points to the contrary. Grouping Gitmo with other negative events like some of you have is absurd. Get some perspective.

And 9:14, your attempt to explain the "minorities" comment is asinine, because it has nothing to do with the original comment that essentially labelled all Republicans as racist. Your explanation would mean, I guess, that the soldiers are racist, and therefore are Republicans. Or something. Good one.

"Since the beginning of the War in Afghanistan, 775 detainees have been brought to Guantanamo, approximately 420 of which have been released. As of August 9, 2007, approximately 355 detainees remain. More than a fifth are cleared for release but may have to wait months or years because U.S. officials are finding it increasingly difficult to allocate places to send them, according to officials and defense lawyers. Of the roughly 355 still incarcerated, U.S. officials said they intend to eventually put 60 to 80 on trial and free the rest. On February 9, 2008, it was reported that 6 of the detainees at the Guantanamo Bay facility would be tried for conspiracy in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.[4]. As of May 2008, according to the US Military up to 36 former Guantanamo detainees have resumed hostilities against the US[citation needed], some have been taken back into custody or killed, including one suicide-bombing in Iraq."

So approx. 5% have gone on to commit other crimes (and of course, Im sure their treatment at Guantanamo had nothing to do with a desire for revenge). And only 10% being brought to trial in the US. 99.999% is not even close.

Edwards to Attorney General...

Thank you, 1:01, for providing facts. Suck it, conservative donkeys.

I love Edwards.