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Career Alternatives for Attorneys: Law School Administration

yale law school.jpgLast week we received an email from our law school alumni office with the subject heading "Yale Law School Job Opportunities for Alumni." It directed our attention to this web page, which currently lists four job openings: Deans' Fellow; Director of Recruitment; Director of Public Interest Programs; and Executive Director, Law and Media Program. Some of these posts sound quite interesting, and all list a law degree as a preferred or required credential.

Inspired by this email, we bring you our latest post about a career alternative for attorneys -- a job open to JDs who can't get, or don't want, to work as a law firm associate or contract attorney (the two most obvious options for law school graduates). Today's topic: working as a law school administrator.

A tipster who used to work in the financial aid office of a top law school writes:

[A] good topic for your career alternatives series would be careers in Law School Administration. This does not cover tenure-track academia, which is typically out of reach for 99% of law graduates, as you know.

Yes, that's right. If you want to be THE dean of a law school, you should first land a tenure-track job as a law professor (which is no easy feat). But landing a position as an assistant or associate dean with a specific portfolio may be more attainable. Our tipster continues:

With about 200 accredited law schools, there is not only a huge need for gullible students to fill all of those seats, but also administrators to care for them and listen to their complaints. Schools are frequently expanding their administrator ranks to deal with the younger generation of law students who have high expectations and need a great deal of hand holding about everything from stress to career options to how to deal with that C+ in Contracts. Recently it seems schools are giving more preference for a JD for many positions, and amazingly enough there are lots of lawyers eager to jump back into the school they complained about so much for 3 years.

In addition, the field of law school administration attracts a high number of hotties. See our Law School Dean Hotties contest: male contestants here, female contestants here, winners here.

For those of you interested in the field of law school administration, more information -- an overview of different subject areas, salary data, etc. -- appears after the jump.

Our tipster offers a helpful survey of the different areas within administration:

Student Services: Includes dean of students, academic counseling, registrar, academic affairs, student affairs, international programs, diversity affairs. Most focused on students' daily life, dealing with everything from sickness to cheating to study abroad to volunteer community service. You should have a thick skin and enjoy counseling students day in and day out, since they increasingly expect around-the-clock availability via email and even IM. Often a very 'political' position in that you have to appeal to different student constituencies as well as faculty, university and administration priorities.

Admissions: A big priority at many schools as US News puts a premium on students with top academic credentials, so competition can be fierce. Involves nationwide recruiting travel in the fall, file reading in the winter, and then 'yield' events throughout the spring and early summer. Very social position, lots of schmoozing but very repetitive. Can be a career black hole, since the skills are not terribly relevant to non-admissions jobs. Many former admissions folks go into $$$ admissions consulting or write books about 'how to get into law school' (see, e.g. Anna Ivey, Joyce Curll).

Career Services:You find the jobs, tell students about the jobs, tell students about what jobs they would like, watch students chase the $$$. At top schools, lots of schmoozing with firms; at bottom schools, lots of hiding from angry bottom 75%. Decent career options as you can go work at a firm's recruiting department, as a headhunter, or another career-related field.

Development / fundraising: Barrage your alumni with letters, emails, magazines, phone calls, etc. for $$$. Solicit 'major gifts' from older alumni who have struck it rich. Organize events around the country and at the school for alumni. Very schmooze-intensive, and you must be comfortable asking people for money and sucking up to some big egos. Can involve a fair amount of travel. Typically is the highest paying administrative position, since it is ostensibly self-funding. Lots of great exit options to nonprofits, other schools, foundations, etc. as fundraising skills are viewed as applicable to any field. Law School/university fundraising is considered easier since your alumni is a built in audience of donor candidates, whereas at a museum or the opera you have to look a lot harder for loyal donors.

Lots of options to choose from with law school administration. What about the pay scale?

Salaries / Benefits: Entry level salaries, even for JDs, start around $40K-$70K, but salaries at the senior levels can be in the low six figures, with some folks making a very nice living. Benefits are good, work/life balance is great, very reasonable hours and predictable slow times every year depending on what department you are in.

Check out the salaries at the University of Michigan Law School (Excel spreadsheet for download; salaries below $40,000 omitted):

University of Michigan Law School Salaries

[S]ome of these are quite high considering they live in Ann Arbor, MI. Interestingly, most big-city schools seem to pay the same as the rural schools despite COL, perhaps because there are far more lawyers in NY or DC or LA looking to make a switch (with a spouse able to support it) than there are in Charlottesville or Bloomington.

Okay, you're sold. So how do you land a position as a law school administrator?

How to get the job: There are almost always assistant/associate director positions available on university employment websites. A great place to start is contacting the people you knew from your alma mater, since they can be a great reference or can keep an eye out if anything comes along. All things being equal, I think law schools prefer to hire their own graduates, especially in development or admissions. A willingness to relocate periodically is also very helpful since there is usually very low turnover at the senior positions, so to progress you must sometimes go to where there are openings.

Great stuff. We thank our tipster for this very helpful and comprehensive write-up.

YLS Employment & Fellowship Opportunities > Current Jobs [Yale Law School]

Earlier: Career Alternatives posts about working for an accounting firm, as a law librarian, as a law firm recruiting coordinator / director, for a public relations firm, and as a conflicts analyst.

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1 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:08 PM

If I have to babysit a bunch of whiny 20-somethings, I would rather be a senior associate at a law firm than a law school administrator. At least I'd be well-paid for the trouble.

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2 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:13 PM

I would rather killself ...

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3 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:24 PM

I am not sure where to post this comment but perhaps you can comment on this blog's comment policy. My work url was banned. I noticed yesterday when I tried to post. In these comments, I have seen homophobic, racist, and sexist posts as well as ad hominem attacks. I find it surprising that I have never done any of these things yet my url was banned out of the blue.

The only thing I could think of was for questioning why David Lat now chooses not to identify summer associates by name, when that has not been the policy in the past. I find it odd that would lead to my url being blocked.

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4 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:46 PM

I'm with 9:13. In fact, all of the "alternatives" in these threads are worse than that option. These are "escapes"?

5 Posted by Forrest Gump | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:55 PM

Dear Mr. Lat,

I think you are confused. Down here in Alabama, we know what hot is--like Jenny, she was a hot one, and you know what, I had her.

I clicked on the links to your Dean hottie contest, and you know what, most were guys. Can you believe that? Also, only one of the females did not make me barf in my mouth. But you know what, one of them made me feel funny, kinda like when I went to Jenny's dorm room and had an axe-e-dent.

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6 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:17 PM

9:24 --You are not allowed to post on here anymore because you are a boring, popped collar wearin, mint julep drinkin, homo, from UVA.

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7 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:20 PM

Sadly, 10:17 will not be banned from the site despite using homophobic language.

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8 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:29 PM

9:11 here --- what is homophobic about 10:17's post?

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9 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:09 PM

I've said for a while that I'd like to someday be an admissions dean. I think it'd be fun.

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10 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:32 PM

The administrative personnel at my law school were largely incompetent, and couldn't hack it in any form of practice (admissions and career services as exceptions). "Dean of Students" might as well be retitled "Dean of I-Think-You-Have-A-Drinking-Problem"...

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11 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:48 AM

10:20 -- Unlike identifying summer associates by name, Lat has not been specifically warning us not to use homophobic language every day for the past few days.

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12 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:29 AM

11:32 "Dean of I-Think-You-Have-A-Drinking-Problem"

Isn't drinking on the job a perk? ... sign me up. I can put up with snotty spoiled 20-somethings if I'm allowed to have a bottle of Jim Beam... Heck... based on the administrators when I was in school, all you have to do is hide in your office; treat students like crap; and intimidate them when they get out of hand. Not so hard.

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13 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:57 AM

Um, you missed the point. The Dean's diagnoses everyone with having a drinking problem. Whether the Dean has one is not relevant.

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14 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:59 AM

I hope YLS is recruiting for the position of Dean. Koh's done enough damage.

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15 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:08 AM

the major problem for law school administrative positions (e.g., asst. dean for students, asst. dean for career servicees) is that they are not tenured - you have at best a 1 year contract and you can be a convenient punching bag for the actual Dean and Faculty who may want to "solve a problem" at the school by firing the relevant administrator. Happens all the time. If you have a great relationship with the dean and are from a top 20 school it can be a pretty darned good life - accepting the economic realities. And it's not unheard of for law school asst. deans in career services t jump to Vault 20 firms to take firm positions at 3x the salaries they were earning in law school.

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16 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:10 AM

9:08 is absolutely right. These positions pay crap (unlike the "real" dean position, which pays a ton, regardless of the dean's competence). And worst of all is the position of "dean of I think you have a drinking problem." Great title by the way.

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17 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:39 AM

Let me get this straight:

Around the clock availability?
Managing unrealistic expectations?
Handholding?

And a major paycut, to boot? Thanks for the "alternative", but I'll stay in private practice.

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18 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:05 AM

I actually am a law school administrator and I love it.
I practiced at a large national firm as have most of my peers (which is why I question the comment that people in these jobs didn't want or "couldn't get" firm jobs - everyone I know has tried law firm life and found it unfulfilling).
I see a large number of resumes from top 10 school graduates wishing to leave top law firms to do this kind of work, and I consel lots of former students who wish to move into his line of work so I think the tone of this thread is all wrong.
It was much harder for me to land a job in law school administration than it was to get large firm offers (I had several of those as did all of my classmates).
These jobs are amazing and with the exception of a handful of students, we find the vast majority of students to be amazing, interesting and fun to work with.
If you are actually interested in these careers, check out "From Lawyer to Administrator" at www.nalp.org/content/index.php?pid=19 for a more detailed discussion of the pros and cons of these jobs.
In fairness, I speak from the vantage point from having graduated from a top school and worked at two top schools but I find my colleagues to be passionate about what they do and great at it. We get invited to weddings and christenings and stay part of our students' lives for years.
To make six figures with a fulfilling job with lots of vacation time, slow summers and holidays is a pretty great life.

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19 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:31 AM

"To make six figures with a fulfilling job with lots of vacation time, slow summers and holidays is a pretty great life."

You can be a school teacher in Nassau or Westchester County and after fifteen years, do the same thing. More, if you privately tutor. No need to go to law school.

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20 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:37 PM

True - but if you genuinely liked learning the law and like participating in the intellectual life of the school by working with moot court, journals, clinics, etc, and if you vastly prefer 25 year olds to 15 year olds, law school administration is a good option.

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21 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:14 PM

21st!

Blackjack!!

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22 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:46 PM

Blackjack guy (or girl) has been cracking me up all day.

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23 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:03 PM

How quickly do I need to get one of these jobs to enter the next hottie dean contest? It looked like a pretty weak field last time so I think I could clean up.

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24 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:43 PM

Um, hotties? No offense, ATL guys, but have you ever had sex? Even kissed a girl? Or maybe you're just visually impaired.

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25 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:40 PM

11:05 - Thanks for the informative (and persuasive) comment. Best in this whole thread (although competition wasn't stiff).

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26 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:50 AM

I second 6:40 on 11:05.

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27 Posted by Kate 2008 | Permalink Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:07 PM

The career services people at my school were great, but a lot of students complained about the ones who never practiced first.

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