First to say that Velvel sounds insane, and second to post in this thread overall

TTT cry for attention

what is their standing? what is the venue?

TTT lynching!

This school doesn't even require an LSAT for admission. Is there something lower than TTT? Or is this school in a class by itself?

First to want to imitate Frat Stud on this one, but I'll resist the temptation...damn these schools and their insane deans

Velvel has a blog. He can be kind of nutty sometimes.

http://velvelonnationalaffairs.blogspot.com/

Yeah, he's not helping his cause with this sort of stunt. Good luck, no wonder you're not a dean at a respectable school.

Guys at my high school used to plan to prosecute and execute the President for war crimes all of the time, it was no big deal.

Would not be surprised if the Secret Service investigates this clown.

dude, his blog posts are too long!

Pardon my poor grammar on the 4:18 post. Lunch-time english not so good.

Do you think this will positively impact their ABA accreditation?

That person is threatening the life of the President of the United States. I hope the secret service is paying attention.

This is the same guy who failed in a taxpayer suit against the Vietnam War. See Velvel v. Nixon, 415 F.2d 236 (10th Cir. 1969)

If they're really so serious about pursuing official action against GWB, why don't they organize petition/funding drives to lean on the House Judiciary Committee to do something with Kucinich's articles of impeachment? At least that has some minuscule chance of accomplishing something, unlike this ridiculous spectacle.

i heard they're also going to discuss a plan of action for prosecuting elmer fudd for cruelty to animals, the roadrunner for speeding, and anti-trust claims against Acme since (apparently in addition to bricks) they make everything.

What a rambling idiot.

I have visited that school several times.

Needless to say, the few hard-working and smart students who ended up there are not well-served by this stunt; but for everyone else, this can't really hurt. Who knows, maybe they'll end up with jobs at moveon.org.

A prime example of Prup's First Law: "Whatever side you take on any religious, social, political, or sexual controversy, you'll have some idiots agreeing with you."

he appears to be one big schmoooo

Are they still accepting transfer applications for the Fall?

"It is, rather, intended to be a planning conference at which plans will be laid and necessary organizational structures set up, to pursue the guilty as long as necessary and, if need be, to the ends of the Earth."

Didn't Nifong teach this man anything?

is it april 1?

Brilliant publicity stunt - puts the law school on the map.

5:00 this guy simply has nothing to do. you are probably correct

Everyone is saying this is a "TTT" lawsuit.

But isn't Yale Law School filing a similar lawsuit against John Yoo?

Back in high school the principal wanted to hang President Carter for war crimes all the time, it was no big deal.

I think the ABA is actually suing AU for being AU.

looks like SOMEONE is off his meds........

A sure sign that one has been in academia too long is confusing an academic exercise with real life.

Or maybe Barack Obama has already told this group that if elected he will appoint an Attorney General who will prosecute our soon to be ex-president?

@4:29 -- "If they're really so serious about pursuing official action against GWB, why don't they organize petition/funding drives to lean on the House Judiciary Committee to do something with Kucinich's articles of impeachment?"

Because Kucinich would laugh at this "dean" and his imaginary law school, and how embarrassing would THAT be for Dean Velveeta?!

Good call on Yale being just as batty for suing Yoo.

This guy, and everyone who show up for his conference, are worthless idiots who are leading us away from any realistic action.

There's a reason they teach at Massachusetts School of Law ... what a bunch of fools.

Evidence of:
1) TTT should cease to exist.
2) Ivory tower intellectuals utterly out of touch with real life. Those that can't do, teach...

i'm struck by the surprising number of faculty members at that place who got their JDs from the massachusetts school of law...

Good call, 6:02. Looks like over half the faculty.

Those are some of the most unimpressive law prof resumes I've ever seen. They have one Harvard Law grad (and "Harvard" is misspelled on his bio page as "Havard").

this is pathetic.

6:08: It's not that Harvard is misspelled, the guy probably went to an online school called Havard so that potential employers may think the chump went to the real Harvard.

"2) Ivory tower intellectuals utterly out of touch with real life."

You are being generous. There is nothing ivory about their tower - it is more of a plexiglass shack, really.

Also, I once MET someone who graduated from Mass. School of Law. She is quite possibly the stupidest person in the world. (No surprise there, I know).

If he had written Havad it would have at least been phonetcially correct for the region, but one R in and one R out is just wrong

A quote from their website:

"The practice of law, especially in your own community, can be a great deal of fun, because lawyers are paid for talking, thinking, planning and writing — abilities which are honed by reforms instituted at MSLAW. But for the practice of law to be fun, and satisfying, you should enter the field because you want to help people.

The fun and the satisfaction accrue mainly to those whose goal is to help others rather than to those whose goal is to make four or five hundred thousand dollars a year."

This seems to imply that their students could get jobs getting paid anywhere close to 400k. Should be: "The fun and the satisfaction accrue mainly to those whose goal is to help others rather than to those whose goal is to make fifty thousand dollars a year."

6:26,

Much like 5:41, you are being generous if you think these clowns can get legal jobs paying $50k. That's the province of Northeastern and Suffolk, and even NESL, AND even WNEC Law... before anyone from MSL gets a crack... The person from MSL that I met sells sneakers for a living (retail).

That's not what it implies at all 6:26. What the heck are you talking about?

4:37: "the few hard-working and smart students who ended up there..."

Those students do not exist. If they were smart and hard-working, they would have done better than this rancid TTT in decline.

Yeah... There might be some hard-working people there, but hey, plumbers are hard working. Their students are ALL brain-dead oafs.

/no, it's not "oaves."

Guys don't worry, the more time and money the batshit insane liberal professors spend on worthless pursuits like this conference, the less chance they have to do real harm in the real world. One more ineffectual article about impeaching Bush means one less op-ed about banning free speech on campuses for fear of offending someone. Now if only this conference took place on a remote island and it lasted all year.

I went to Widener and now I am chief legal counsel to a cult in western Maryland.

Touro Touro Touro

Should disbar this idiot for making statements that impune the integrity of the Bar. That'll send the right message. Threatening the current administration with a hanging is not conduct that even reaches the bare minimum required to be a Member of the Bar. If the Massachusetts and New Hampshire Bar have any sembalance of integrity, they should disbar this guy.

Why do Massachusetts taxpayers have to pay this guy's salary? This is an outrage.

Luckily they don't. The name notwithstanding, this is a private shithole - not a public one. It would indeed be an outrage otherwise - no question.

Western New England School of Law kicked this schools ass in ultimate Frisbee last year.

"Hangings? C'mon, Dean Velvel -- shouldn't a liberal like yourself view that as violating the Eighth Amendment?"

Lat, you're confused. Liberals are all for executions...as long as those killed are the innocent. See, e.g., abortion. If the executed has been proven guilty, killing is wrong.

Oh no, this thread is about to explode... Why did you have to do that?????

Just pointing out the obvious

I believe that Dean Velvel may be getting a friendly call from the Secret Service in the very near future.

7:56.... That, I believe, it utter bullshit. The left would LOVE for one of its members to be arrested for criticizing or even threatening the administration. Truth is, it just doesn't happen in this country. Even where the legal grounds are there - there is no political rationale. Now if this was Cuba....

The dean has a point.

If WWII war criminals were held responsible for their actions, why can't our leaders be held responsible for theirs?

There is a fair argument that some of our leaders are war criminals when the standards we have applied to others are applied to ourselves. But that does not happen because the United States is so powerful.

8:49,

GTMO =/= Holocaust

8:49 = Valedictorian of MSL

Come on, WNEC at the same level as MSL? WNEC Law was accredited 30+ years ago and was founded way back in 1919 as part of Northeastern U.

MSL, on the other hand, is unaccredited by the ABA. It wasn't even founded until 1990. Yes, you can take the Mass Bar but you'll be forever limited to dozen or so states of practice.

what a surprise-- this guy went to Michigan. This type of stuff is par for the course in Ann Arbor.

"Yes, you can take the Mass Bar but you'll be forever limited to dozen or so states of practice."

Being admitted to the bar =/= getting a job. That's probably the hard part.

I'm waiting for somebody to point out that MSL was barely the first.

The Con Law Clinic at Rutgers-Newark filed suit against Bush for Section 8 violations months ago.

@7:06 - Widener? I never even met her!

That would be sweet if he got disbarred.

Dang, now the Miami Faculty might go and do something silly like this too.

ha ha...lissen to all da rightwingers squeal.

I say MORE POWER TO Dean Velvel

this guy Velvel looks like Bill Murray (playing a pederass with an end of life crisis) in a (poignant) wes anderson movie. Owen Wilson plays his confused adopted son, yet again.

I am a student at MSLAW and I am not stupid. It is not a "TTT" as you people call it. It is a respectable and honorable institution that provides its law gradguates with opportunities to go into the world and change things like hunger and disease and other stuff or to go into a big law practice and make $$$$$$ like 160 large. Personally I am choosing to become a Volunteer Attorney at a large law firm to build my experience and resumay before I apply to large law firms in Boston like Hale and Dorr or Ropes and Gray. These firms will value my education and expeerience more than you dopes!

8:38, It is "pederast," not "pederass." Walter Sobchak would roll over in his grave.

/John Goodman alive?

Has anyone ever met/hired any graduate from the Massachusetts School of Law at Andover? I haven't, and, probably, never will.

I met one. She sold me a pair of sneakers at City Sports on Commonwealth Ave.

9:34, Isiah actually looked it up in the urban dictionary, and prefers his spellin; don't mess with Isiah's eloquaciousness.
Oh yeah, and i killed that Sobchak for refusing to play defense on the Shabbos. I bet he wouldn't roll over in his grave, that lazy mofo.

Is 9:26 a troll or really a student at MSLAW or a troll? Could go either way - but if he is a student it's good that he's working on his "resumay." Think about it - MSLAW is apparently giving out law degrees so worthless that he is "volunteering" at a large law firm. Hilarious!

But seriously, is there something worse than TTT? There are many lawyers from TTTs who are very good attorneys (among the many idiots). And at least TTTs are accredited so they are presumably teaching law at a certain minimum level. I think we need a new acronym - maybe "Unaccredited Cess Pool" ("UCP")?

Useless Unaccredited Urinal? ("UUU")

10:08, That guy is clearly a troll, though a pretty good one.

Way way overdue! The list of federal laws violated is long and the evidence strong. Impeachment MUST occur.

If the lawyers of Pakistan have the courage to stand up to Musharaff, we are cowards if we fail to stand up for America.

This is 9:26. I dont know what you mean by calling me a troll. I graduated from MSLAW in 2007 with a 3.25 and am now working on building my RESUMEE (sorry I misspelled it earlier when I wrote "resumay" you asshole). And yes, I'm a volunteer attorney. Why is that "hilarious?" One day in a few years when I become an associate and then a partner in a BIG LAW FIRM I will eat you for breakfast.

Don't worry, 9:26, they say third time's a charm.

10:27, You are just precious. :) Please keep going.

9:26, please tell us more about your resumay/resumee and how you will soon turn your volunteer attorney status into a partnership at a BIG LAW FIRM. Also, please share your thoughts on when exactly hell is freezing over.

Sorry, I meant "resume" but I can't make the silly accent over the Es. Boy you people are terrible people! I believe that I can parle my current job into anything I want if I just WORK at it and have FUN while doing whatever I am doing while working at it. You will totally see ME at the top in a few short years my friends. Then you will be QUAKING in your boots when I oppose you on a Rule 56 Motion for Summarily Judgment and you can't find a good argument to oppose mine.

See you as a partner at ROPES AND GRAY assholes!

Ok, ok, I'll take the bait - if only because this is entertaining.

9:26, I think the fact that you are volunteering at a large firm is funny, because most people who graduate with a professional degree and go to work for an employer with the resources to pay, would expect to be compensated for their services. (Of course, because your "law degree" does not make you eligible for most bar exams, maybe we shouldn't be thinking of it as a professional degree).

Perhaps we will meet each other across the table from one another some day, perhaps not. But the amount of misplaced confidence that it takes to claim that you will "eat for breakfast" other lawyers who worked hard enough and were smart enough to get the grades and LSAT scores to get into a real (i.e. accredited) law school and then be hired as real (i.e. not volunteer) associates is, in the words of 10:27, "just precious."

Kudos on the excellent trolling.

Sorry, I meant "resume" but I can't make the silly accent over the Es. Boy you people are terrible people! I believe that I can parle my current job into anything I want if I just WORK at it and have FUN while doing whatever I am doing while working at it. You will totally see ME at the top in a few short years my friends. Then you will be QUAKING in your boots when I oppose you on a Rule 56 Motion for Summarily Judgment and you can't find a good argument to oppose mine.

See you as a partner at ROPES AND GRAY assholes!

11:13 - Did you mean "summary judgement?"

Oops, summary judgment. Guess I'm the ass.

If MASOL can put Bush on trial then that should make Murtha fair game at Regent

This is 9:26. All of you who are sipping the Haterade should leave me alone. Yes "summary judgment"

Is "parle" supposed to be "parlay" or are you attempting to speak poor French as well as poor English?

(burp)

sorry...you know that Haterade!

Is 9:26 Richard Lou?

You people are sad, debating the school, when you're overlooking the issue. We swore to uphold the law and have a duty to the American people to end this nonsense. Pakistani lawyers marched in the streets this week to restore the deposed judges. Where were you this week when you should have been supporting Kucinich's calls for impeachment?

Can we get a cute cat picture with Dean Velvel, and the rest of the idiots who pay this guy in tuition to pursue his moveon.org agenda?

12:38,

I was going to come out, but AIPAC threatened my family, so I stayed home.

12:50 - Do you really let AIPAC dictate your political beliefs or do you make anti-Semitic comments because you think they're funny?

i think this is a great idea. also... IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME

1:03, Bend your knees slightly, lean forward and gently pull your head out of your ass. This may alleviate your deafness to sarcasm.

Now, allow me to explain. I'm a Jew (with strong Zionist leanings). I LIKE AIPAC. My comment intended to (a) mock 12:38 and (b) humorously invoke a now notorious ATL troll (Do a word search).

Hope that clears it up.

Cheers,
12:50

guys in my high school used to sarcastically troll on legal tabloids in attempts at invoking humorless and obsequious defenses to TTTs, AIPAC, and BigLaw all the time. it was no big deal.

1.03 -- Why is 12.50's comment anti-Semitic? One can't criticize AIPAC without being anti-Semitic?

Major-General Anthony Taguba (investigator of Abu Ghraib) has now accused Bush of war crimes:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html