Wow. Pwned for life if the one going around school had her real name.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Catherine McKinnon taught me that all sex is rape.

But Bill Clinton taught me that blowjobs aren't sex so I guess I'm ok.

Guys in my high school used to receive BJs from random chicks in bathrooms and libraries all the time, 'twas no big deal:)

hilarious

lol

Lewinski can't find a decent job because employers are so afraid of Clinton-wrath. There's no way she'd waste 3 years and tons of money on law school when there's no gainful employment waiting for her.

/I'd still let her rim me, though.

At UVA some 1Ls got caught in the library actually having sex, not simply talking up phantom oral. Wasn't there an ATL post on this as well? Perhaps an opinion poll on the best times and places to engage in stacks sex?

wait...so this guy has never gotten one from her and he just casually brings it up?

eh, can't fault him for trying.

OMG!! How scandalous!!!

the one making rounds definitely had names

Serious question for ATL readers?

I'm a decent, some women say very handsome/hot guy with herpes. I've basically lived a life of random sex and I guess it was inevitable.

Lately I've been wanting to date for a relationship. Like meet someone nice and all that.

My question is, do I NEED to tell them about the herpes? I take valtrex every day so there should never be any symptoms. And if I tell the woman I'll basically have no chance with her.

I heard 25% of guys in NY have herpes (I'm not in NY) and they can't all be advertising it.

So please tell me, what should I do?

12:28 -
Good point. PLAYA PLAYA

I need a shower.

This needs to be entered in the post of the year competition

12:32 - I think you do have to tell I think. You could be sued if you knowingly infect someone else.

Maybe go out on a few dates before doing anything. Get her to like you. Then mention it before the first hook-up.

12:32: wait till you spooge in her mouth after the first blowjob, then put your hand over her mouth and confess your secret. She'll then likely squirt the semen out of her nose. We herpes types call it an Alaskan Dragon.

If that doesn't work, and she just shrugs and swallows, you know you have a keeper.

Either way, score for Team Herpes.

25% of men in NY have teh herp?!?!?!

Are we sure these aren't two male students?

As far as scandals go, this one is mundane. It happens on occasion -- partially because of the risque nature of the act. We had a similar incident at my undergraduate school.

I like ATL, but this is fluff even by fluff standards. I would be more interested in discussing the employment prospects of the two parties.

Herpes Guy (12:32),

As I recall, the numbers in NYC, when broken down by gender, showed that a substantially higher percentage of NYC women had herpes than men. So it may not be as much of a problem as you think.

While I understand that telling somebody can make her run away, if you're looking for a relationship, she's going to see your Valtrex or something and find out eventually. At which point, she's not only mad that you have herpes, but also feels betrayed.

I heard semen didn't transmit herpes.

Snopes! This entire thing appears phony. What is the substantiation? That it has been passed around widely? That it allegedly comes from a certain school, and you are swept up by specificity?
Is it a surprise that something titillating gets circulated? Would you be surprised at all if this turned out to be phony? What are the standards for evidence here?

Wow, two consenting adults talking about meeting up to have sex. Shocking!!

Americans are so lame when it comes to talking about sex.

12:27(2) = PURE. COMEDY. GOLD.

Law school is so high school.

I thought it was called the "Angry Dragon"

"Snopes! This entire thing appears phony. What is the substantiation? "

I agree. Lat's been reporting a lot of suspicious stories lately. I think they're bullshit.

There MUST have been some context to that. Like a conversation in the past, or something. Seriously, if I IMd every woman with a pretty mouth "is there any way i can get a bj today" I'm almost positive I'd end up being arrested.

I also like that there is no discussion about somewhere other than school. Either sex at school is a fantasy they are working on, or their respective homes are "not good places" for that. You know. The kind of "not good" that has a spouse/SO at it who doesn't seem to understand that it was only a blowjob.

What does that international student at American Law who always posts on here have to say about this?

What a relief. I thought I was the only on jerking off in law school stalls.

You guys sound like a bunch of giggling middle schoolers. What is so shocking/scandalous about this??

12:45,

The context is that this guy is a stone cold pimp.

Thank for asking 12:46:

I think any man get mouth love from girl is A # 1 OK man who should given parvacy from prying eyes. If not whole world will stop to work.

Roger Lou always get his ding dong shined up fast and best in library.

Thanks to you USA # 1!!!

Roger Lou

that is not the real roger!!

There is no signature of weird unidentifiable asian lettering.

"parvacy"

i have to agree with 12:48(1) - this guy is a stud. probably has a dull gf at home, looking for a cheap pop at the law library with class slut.

Yawn.

I received this as an email forward from WCL. It's legit.

The names of the parties are known within the school.

who forwarded it to people? the email address of the first forwarder must be known. what a douche.

12:56 here. I meant "from a friend at" WCL (not from the school itself, obv).

A true pimp never has to 'bate. Especially not in a bathroom stall. If a true pimp wants to 'bate (perhaps to exercise his pimp hand), he just whips it out and does his business in the nearest girl's hair.

Strange, but true....

American Law's website is advertising the following upcoming panel:

Emerging Era in Whistleblower Rights and the Public's Right to Know, June 23

12:57(1) - No, not a douche. Without people to forward this stuff, we'd miss out on a lot of entertainment and information.

If you think it is wrong to publicize funny or scandalous emails, you are reading the wrong website.

I don't think the reaction here is that oral sex is scandalous (at least for most people), but the utterly casual request, as well as the negotiation is. There is nothing inherently degrading about oral sex, but in this exchange it is hard to not see the woman as having lost some self-respect. He's getting the blowjob, but he's also explaining to her how she can do it sitting on a toilet in the men's room? That's not headed (pun intended) to a good place.

I suspect if the exchange had been:

male: what about bathroom head?

female: why don't you jerk off if you're that horney. I'm not blowing you sitting on a men's toilet and having to sneak out the bathroom afterwards, asshole.

male: Um. OK. What about tomorrow?

many of us would see this as a complete non-event.

12:43:

I believe you're confusing the Alaskan Dragon with the Angry Pirate, but I could be mistaken.

Herpes guy: see yesterday's branding post.

1:05 et al-- I think it's pretty clear that these two have had encounters before. In that context the casual discussion isn't out of place.

Guy poll: When masturbating in the law school mens' room, do you prefer stalls or urinals? I find standing in front of a urinal less messy if there's no one around.

I hate the term "pwned." Gamers...

So, head head?

Shut up, 1:05.

1:05 makes an excellent point. The conversation's degrading element confuses us, since the female is clearly eager, however casually she expresses it, to satisfy the male. Why? Can't they go elsewhere? The answer, 1:05, is that the risque element of a bathroom encounter explains the female's position (no pun intended).

I still don't think this exchange is LAT-worthy, however. Does anyone want to speculate about how many American students obtain BigLaw? Is employment law and union negotiation possible for either of these two parties?

JT says:

(1) cut a hole in a box;
(2) put your junk in that box;
(3) make her open the box ... and that's the way you do it!

1:09 - Stall all the way. At least you have privacy.

Are you kidding about jacking off at a urinal? You are going to get busted some day.

Sad. The guy is a misogynistic loser, NOT a stud, and the woman is an insecure attention monger. I hope they fulfill each other's needs and grow up.

here is how ridiculous american is:

at graduation, people got special designations in the official program for donating money to the school.

there was no indication of latin honors, moot court, law review or anything of actual merit...just simply whether someone coughed up some more money as a "gift" to the school.

No the angry pirate requires that you cum in their mouth, then kick them in the shin, punch them in the eye so that they sort of hobble and say "argh..."

There's on-line websites for people with herpes to find other people with herpes. Go that route and avoid the "I have something to tell you..." thing.

I dated a guy that had herpes. We dated for a month or so and got along well and he never TRIED anything. I figured he was either a prude or gay.

Then one night, he says, "So, I told you I used to be a wild child? Well, I didn't come away from that unscathed. I caught something." My first thought was AIDS. I had to prompt him to go on and he thought I should KNOW what he was talking about and eventually he said the word "herpes" and I didn't have a clue what that was and he said, "It just means sometimes I get a dime sized sore in that area."

He left and I hit the internet and read up on herpes and all of the stuff says it can be spread even with no symptoms, so basically, you're always at risk of spreading it and--this being a legal board--I think you'd be liable if you didn't tell her and she found out, even if she didn't get herpes. You know, like emotional distress for fear of getting herpes or something like that. In short, you gotta tell. Besides, it's only right.

Also on the internet are support websites and there are lots of couples on there where one is positive and the other is not -- so it's not like everyone is going to run once you tell them.

In my case, I stayed with the guy, but didn't sleep with him. I personally didn't want to be at risk for a permanent disease in a non-permanent relationship. Maybe if we were compatible enough to be committed to "forever" -- but just for convenience-relationship, heck no. (I moved 60 miles away for work and the relationship wasn't so "convenient" anymore and we broke up ... so I am glad in retrospect that I didn't sleep with him.)

Oh and a joke: What's the difference between love and herpes? Herpes is forever.....

No the angry pirate requires that you cum in their mouth, then kick them in the shin, punch them in the eye so that they sort of hobble and say "argh..."

I bet 1:05's vagina could solve global warming.

"In my case, I stayed with the guy, but didn't sleep with him. I personally didn't want to be at risk for a permanent disease in a non-permanent relationship."

What'd you two do all day?

1:12, 1:20. what's your problem? did you miss nap time?

I don't get why these self righteous women always call guys like this misogynists. It seems misognystic to deny that SOME women like to be and have the right to be sluts, have public sex, and lick guys' balls and butt holes. Conversely, these same women are probably the ones who instruct their boyfriends in finding her G-spot, smacking her harder, and burying her face in the pillow. Basically, they know how to have good sex. There's nothing more liberated than a woman who knows exactly how she likes to get her rocks off.

This poor girl is turning me into Catherine McKinnon. Where's the quid pro quo here?
----
She gives parameters for library head (times she'll do it) as if she's a pro, but then they both admit they haven't done it at school before. Unless there's some distinction between the library and school to them, that doesn't make sense.

Nerdy guys talk about feminism to explain why they can't get any.

Nerdy girls talk about feminism to explain why guys don't hit on them.

Shut up the both of you. This is why I insist on anal whenever I bang a nerdy girl.

I agree with 1:14, and another important factor to consider in the Career Alternative: Law Librarian topic.

1:26 spot on

Female here - not sure why this is degrading.

Both parties are treating the transaction as a bland transaction. You could substitute in something bland as the subject matter and have the same basic conversation -- say the guy was asking the girl if she'd listen to him practice his moot court opening argument. She's basically saying back that she's willing, but it's not convenient right now and if and when they do find a convenient time, then they have to do it somewhere that they won't be disturbed. If the same conversation had occurred about her listening to him practice his moot court opening argument, nobody would call either of them names or say it was degrading.

Ergo.... I conclude the fact that it is a BJ and/or the location chosen for the BJ is what people find degrading? Why? Is it degrading to give a BJ? Is it degrading to give a BJ in a semi-public location? Some people get off on that, the risk of getting caught - right? So maybe she does. She doesn't sound degraded. She sounds reasonable -- not now, when it's convenient for me, and only if we can do it without getting caught.

"Nerdy"

lulz

SNAP INTO A BJ!!!

So, the people that received the original e-mail with names -- what is the relationship of these two people? Are they known to be BF/GF? Are they married to other people?

Oh man! My law school sucked (no pun intended). All I got was some hand action from some fat, drunk, ugly HLS 1L in the back of a car. Nothing like mouth sex in the library or bathroom stall

1:15 = never had a guy who wanted head from her. And you have to be pretty fugly for most guys to not at least be willing to fling a little yogurt down your pie hole.

I think it's awesome that Professor X teaches there. I wonder if Cyclops and Wolverine stop by.

1:14-- What, somebody might walk into the room and see me standing in front of a urinal with my dick in my hand? Not exactly an uncommon sight. Also there's an outer door to the room so I can stop if I hear someone coming. Try it-- much easier than wiping the floor of the stall after.

He should have suggested HE sit on the toilet while SHE got on her knees and blew him=Blumpkin. Concluding with an Alaskan Dragon or Pirate is optional.

1:35 -- wiping the floor stall? How do you ever expect to hit a girl in the eye with aim like that?

If he is a "misogynist" then she is surely a mister ogynist.

1:31 - I love you.

1:33 = Best.comment.ever.

1:31,
The blowjob is not degrading. The risk is not degrading. The suggestion that she hop-to and blow him while sitting on a men's shitter (one of the nastiest things on Earth) is potentially degrading.

1:12, 1:20,
Shut your pie holes. Just as in nature, there is nothing wrong with picking off the sick and the weak first. However, be man enough to admit that you are targeting a honey with low self-esteem.

1:05

1:24 - Drink. Often at a local pub where his buddies would see me and make comments like, "Man, I wish I was hitting that" and he'd grit his teeth and think, "Yea, me too" but not say anything.

This was absolutely humiliating.

Anyone who challenges this is full of shit. If not, why don't you put your name by your assertion? You wouldn't, because even being associated with such a mortifying thing would ruin you.

1:14(2) - My technique is I come into my cupped palm.

I wipe it up with toilet paper and toss it in the bowl. I flush, I wash my hands, I leave.

Easy and clean.

Godwin's Corollary to ATL: In the course of any online discussion, some idiot will sooner or later declare that anyone unwilling to sign their name to a comment lacks credibility. That idiot automatically loses.

Why bother wiping the floor at all? That's what WCL-educated janitors are for.

1:33 #4

funny

I need to meet women like this.

Given the powerful aroma of patchouli oil that wafts off the AU campus, I assume there are quite a few feminists there with attitudes like 1:05. I feel bad for the guy.

1:42 - I agree, personally, that it doesn't sound like an attractive offer. But she seems fine with it. So why should I judge her for that? If you're a straight guy and another guy asked to have sex with you in a casual text message -- you might be annoyed or offended. However, if you're a gay guy and another gay guy you have an on-going thing with asks casually in a text to have sex, then might respond like the chic did in this case. On the other end of the spectrum, if you're a total prude and your husband suggests a BJ in the marital bed, you might feel degraded by the suggestion. To each their own. My point is why label someone as degraded or lacking self-esteem because she is okay with something that you do not find appealing?

1:52,
I am 1:05, and a male. And unlike Mr. What About a Bathroom BJ, I would been thoughtful for a second and gotten the head.

You jackasses obviously have never been in a serious, long term relationship with a woman (other than your mommy).

I have to say, as I avoid studying for the bar today, I have laughed outloud many times in reading some of these comments (between this and the IL civ pro lectures, it's been a funny week).

1:57/1:05: I never said you weren't male. I said you were a feminist. Now that I know you're both, I'll refer to you by the proper label: pussy.

1:57,
Your comment conflates two issues. Female here may be very excited by the offer. That's not open to judgment. Her kink is her kink, and more power to her.

However, it also means she probably has some self-esteem issue. That is what it is. It can be judged, utilized, etc. etc. It doesn't mean she's evil, bad, immoral, etc., but it does mean she's got issues.

2:00,
HA! HA! HA! HA!

Pussy or adult. Either will work.

As long as they're in the stall, it's the perfect opportunity for a blumpy. You guys are missing the big picture here.

the order of the convo was totally rearranged!

Anyone have a link to the full conversation?

How many unsolicited offers do you think this lady received to join various study groups after this IM got emailed around campus?

the guy who wanks in the urinal must have a tiny cock.

Also, what's this about cleaning the floor if you pull one out in the stall? Shoot it into the bowl, jeez. Pretty big ass target.

between 1:35 and 2:12 I'm sensing a blumpkin trend!

American ought to use this in their brochure... The number of applicants (or at least males) is bound to go through the roof...

So wait, Monica Lewinsky went to law school? Shouldn't this deserve a whole separate post?

1:15 = UGLY law school chick that holds her nose up @ people because she made law review...that is all you got 1:15.

2:22 -- Lat did a post last summer about Lewinsky going to law school. Apparently, she was summering at Kirkland in Chicago and slapped a male summer at an event. The dude got no-offered, but it's unclear whether Lewinsky did too.

omg! she has issues bc she gives head in a bathroom!?! thats ridiculous. law school is encapsulating, we ALL know that and if this is the first time you've ever heard a story like this, then you're kidding yourself that it doesnt happen...

stupid for leaving the chat on the screen, YES! however, i really don't think this is a huge venture from the kind of activity that happens on the regular...nor does it have any relevance to her 'issues'

puppy love

http://www.library.american.edu/ask/im.html

Proceed with submitting your requests

2:20-- Don't you think it's a bit obvious what you're doing if people see your feet facing the bowl in the stall?

She will GO DOWN in history, all right.

I can't tell if this girl is awesome or a whore.

2:17,
They ought to put her name on here:

male: heu. hey.

female: Hey - I just got your text, blah blah blah?

male: is there any way i can get a bj in my office right now?

female: No, blah, blah, blah.

male: Don't be like that. Get on the shuttle, come here and blow me.

female: I think the same rules should probably still apply. I'm not so keen on getting kicked out of school

male: Kicked out of school? You're at American. I'll get you an interview here.

female: It's just not such good timing. If you really want, you can wait at school until I'm done with the [Professor X] stuff, but that will probably be pretty late, but at least we'd have less of a chance of getting caught.

male: Screw it. I'll call Spitzer's ho.

these students and these commentators have no business being lawyers. no class, no standards, no discretion.

12:39(1) = pee-myself-funny. "Alaskan dragon" is now my favorite catch phrase.

2:44 is clearly the male in question.

Feeling a little pent-up aggression today, buddy?

2:45, leave poor 2:44 alone. He got blue-balled by the kind of chic who gives BJs in the library and the bathroom. Tough.

Nope, just shame at my peers who try to pass as professionals.

2:31 -- no. obviously, if somebody comes in, the mission is aborted. I act like I've just finished wiping, flush, and leave.

2:48 -- if you're capable of feeling "shame," you're in the wrong profession.

@2:25 - well played, very well played indeed

Sorry, not peers, misogynists.

2:25 is that a true-story?

12:32 is ron mexico

I don't think the alaskan dragon is quite what the herpes guy described earlier. It's close, though. From wikipedia:

Alaskan Dragon: Where the man ejaculates into the woman's mouth, and she then puffs out her cheeks and the man presses them in again forcefully, causing the semen to spew out like a dragon's fire.

IronKey... its an encrypted usb flash drive... and it comes with a built-in web browser that leaves no trace on public computers...

A dragon's fire comes out of its nose, not its mouth. Pressing the girl's cheeks together won't achieve that effect; you have to cover her mouth and force her to choke.

Urban Dictionary appears to confirm this, which is a much better source for this type of stuff than Wikipedia.

Actually, I guess a dragon's fire can come out of either its nose or mouth. I suppose both techniques can qualify as the Alaskan Dragon. (3:40)

2:49-- If you stop when someone comes in anyway, then that just gets us back to the question of why the urinal isn't more convenient.

I heard the chick from this chat got an offer from the firm of Dixen Yermouth.

You call this an “amusing instant-message”? What if it is true and a private conversation was discovered and passed along at the expense of these two people? Granted one was totally stupid to have used a public computer and even more pathetic not to have signed out but the cruelty of making a joke of this, especially if people’s names are out there - that is just beyond my imagination. I think it is one of the lowest things I’ve ever seen. We should all learn a lesson from this but the lesson isn’t only to sign out. The person who spread it all over creation should not only understand how cruel this is but realize it is a violation of privacy and the school’s computer regulations. Could you imagine if suddenly one of your private conversations were posted all over creation? What is the matter with people that we find so much amusement from other people’s humiliation? This could ruin someone’s life. I don’t find it funny at all.

12:48(2) -
Holy shit, I can't stop laughing.

3:44, b/c people busting in on me by a urinal will *clearly* see what I'm doing.

And unlike the original person with the idea, stroking my hard-on doesn't look much like I'm holding my