Wow. Pwned for life if the one going around school had her real name.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Catherine McKinnon taught me that all sex is rape.

But Bill Clinton taught me that blowjobs aren't sex so I guess I'm ok.

Guys in my high school used to receive BJs from random chicks in bathrooms and libraries all the time, 'twas no big deal:)

hilarious

lol

Lewinski can't find a decent job because employers are so afraid of Clinton-wrath. There's no way she'd waste 3 years and tons of money on law school when there's no gainful employment waiting for her.

/I'd still let her rim me, though.

At UVA some 1Ls got caught in the library actually having sex, not simply talking up phantom oral. Wasn't there an ATL post on this as well? Perhaps an opinion poll on the best times and places to engage in stacks sex?

wait...so this guy has never gotten one from her and he just casually brings it up?

eh, can't fault him for trying.

OMG!! How scandalous!!!

the one making rounds definitely had names

Serious question for ATL readers?

I'm a decent, some women say very handsome/hot guy with herpes. I've basically lived a life of random sex and I guess it was inevitable.

Lately I've been wanting to date for a relationship. Like meet someone nice and all that.

My question is, do I NEED to tell them about the herpes? I take valtrex every day so there should never be any symptoms. And if I tell the woman I'll basically have no chance with her.

I heard 25% of guys in NY have herpes (I'm not in NY) and they can't all be advertising it.

So please tell me, what should I do?

12:28 -
Good point. PLAYA PLAYA

I need a shower.

This needs to be entered in the post of the year competition

12:32 - I think you do have to tell I think. You could be sued if you knowingly infect someone else.

Maybe go out on a few dates before doing anything. Get her to like you. Then mention it before the first hook-up.

12:32: wait till you spooge in her mouth after the first blowjob, then put your hand over her mouth and confess your secret. She'll then likely squirt the semen out of her nose. We herpes types call it an Alaskan Dragon.

If that doesn't work, and she just shrugs and swallows, you know you have a keeper.

Either way, score for Team Herpes.

25% of men in NY have teh herp?!?!?!

Are we sure these aren't two male students?

As far as scandals go, this one is mundane. It happens on occasion -- partially because of the risque nature of the act. We had a similar incident at my undergraduate school.

I like ATL, but this is fluff even by fluff standards. I would be more interested in discussing the employment prospects of the two parties.

Herpes Guy (12:32),

As I recall, the numbers in NYC, when broken down by gender, showed that a substantially higher percentage of NYC women had herpes than men. So it may not be as much of a problem as you think.

While I understand that telling somebody can make her run away, if you're looking for a relationship, she's going to see your Valtrex or something and find out eventually. At which point, she's not only mad that you have herpes, but also feels betrayed.

I heard semen didn't transmit herpes.

Snopes! This entire thing appears phony. What is the substantiation? That it has been passed around widely? That it allegedly comes from a certain school, and you are swept up by specificity?
Is it a surprise that something titillating gets circulated? Would you be surprised at all if this turned out to be phony? What are the standards for evidence here?

Wow, two consenting adults talking about meeting up to have sex. Shocking!!

Americans are so lame when it comes to talking about sex.

12:27(2) = PURE. COMEDY. GOLD.

Law school is so high school.

I thought it was called the "Angry Dragon"

"Snopes! This entire thing appears phony. What is the substantiation? "

I agree. Lat's been reporting a lot of suspicious stories lately. I think they're bullshit.

There MUST have been some context to that. Like a conversation in the past, or something. Seriously, if I IMd every woman with a pretty mouth "is there any way i can get a bj today" I'm almost positive I'd end up being arrested.

I also like that there is no discussion about somewhere other than school. Either sex at school is a fantasy they are working on, or their respective homes are "not good places" for that. You know. The kind of "not good" that has a spouse/SO at it who doesn't seem to understand that it was only a blowjob.

What does that international student at American Law who always posts on here have to say about this?

What a relief. I thought I was the only on jerking off in law school stalls.

You guys sound like a bunch of giggling middle schoolers. What is so shocking/scandalous about this??

12:45,

The context is that this guy is a stone cold pimp.

Thank for asking 12:46:

I think any man get mouth love from girl is A # 1 OK man who should given parvacy from prying eyes. If not whole world will stop to work.

Roger Lou always get his ding dong shined up fast and best in library.

Thanks to you USA # 1!!!

Roger Lou

that is not the real roger!!

There is no signature of weird unidentifiable asian lettering.

"parvacy"

i have to agree with 12:48(1) - this guy is a stud. probably has a dull gf at home, looking for a cheap pop at the law library with class slut.

Yawn.

I received this as an email forward from WCL. It's legit.

The names of the parties are known within the school.

who forwarded it to people? the email address of the first forwarder must be known. what a douche.

12:56 here. I meant "from a friend at" WCL (not from the school itself, obv).

A true pimp never has to 'bate. Especially not in a bathroom stall. If a true pimp wants to 'bate (perhaps to exercise his pimp hand), he just whips it out and does his business in the nearest girl's hair.

Strange, but true....

American Law's website is advertising the following upcoming panel:

Emerging Era in Whistleblower Rights and the Public's Right to Know, June 23

12:57(1) - No, not a douche. Without people to forward this stuff, we'd miss out on a lot of entertainment and information.

If you think it is wrong to publicize funny or scandalous emails, you are reading the wrong website.

I don't think the reaction here is that oral sex is scandalous (at least for most people), but the utterly casual request, as well as the negotiation is. There is nothing inherently degrading about oral sex, but in this exchange it is hard to not see the woman as having lost some self-respect. He's getting the blowjob, but he's also explaining to her how she can do it sitting on a toilet in the men's room? That's not headed (pun intended) to a good place.

I suspect if the exchange had been:

male: what about bathroom head?

female: why don't you jerk off if you're that horney. I'm not blowing you sitting on a men's toilet and having to sneak out the bathroom afterwards, asshole.

male: Um. OK. What about tomorrow?

many of us would see this as a complete non-event.

12:43:

I believe you're confusing the Alaskan Dragon with the Angry Pirate, but I could be mistaken.

Herpes guy: see yesterday's branding post.

1:05 et al-- I think it's pretty clear that these two have had encounters before. In that context the casual discussion isn't out of place.

Guy poll: When masturbating in the law school mens' room, do you prefer stalls or urinals? I find standing in front of a urinal less messy if there's no one around.

I hate the term "pwned." Gamers...

So, head head?

Shut up, 1:05.

1:05 makes an excellent point. The conversation's degrading element confuses us, since the female is clearly eager, however casually she expresses it, to satisfy the male. Why? Can't they go elsewhere? The answer, 1:05, is that the risque element of a bathroom encounter explains the female's position (no pun intended).

I still don't think this exchange is LAT-worthy, however. Does anyone want to speculate about how many American students obtain BigLaw? Is employment law and union negotiation possible for either of these two parties?

JT says:

(1) cut a hole in a box;
(2) put your junk in that box;
(3) make her open the box ... and that's the way you do it!

1:09 - Stall all the way. At least you have privacy.

Are you kidding about jacking off at a urinal? You are going to get busted some day.

Sad. The guy is a misogynistic loser, NOT a stud, and the woman is an insecure attention monger. I hope they fulfill each other's needs and grow up.

here is how ridiculous american is:

at graduation, people got special designations in the official program for donating money to the school.

there was no indication of latin honors, moot court, law review or anything of actual merit...just simply whether someone coughed up some more money as a "gift" to the school.

No the angry pirate requires that you cum in their mouth, then kick them in the shin, punch them in the eye so that they sort of hobble and say "argh..."

There's on-line websites for people with herpes to find other people with herpes. Go that route and avoid the "I have something to tell you..." thing.

I dated a guy that had herpes. We dated for a month or so and got along well and he never TRIED anything. I figured he was either a prude or gay.

Then one night, he says, "So, I told you I used to be a wild child? Well, I didn't come away from that unscathed. I caught something." My first thought was AIDS. I had to prompt him to go on and he thought I should KNOW what he was talking about and eventually he said the word "herpes" and I didn't have a clue what that was and he said, "It just means sometimes I get a dime sized sore in that area."

He left and I hit the internet and read up on herpes and all of the stuff says it can be spread even with no symptoms, so basically, you're always at risk of spreading it and--this being a legal board--I think you'd be liable if you didn't tell her and she found out, even if she didn't get herpes. You know, like emotional distress for fear of getting herpes or something like that. In short, you gotta tell. Besides, it's only right.

Also on the internet are support websites and there are lots of couples on there where one is positive and the other is not -- so it's not like everyone is going to run once you tell them.

In my case, I stayed with the guy, but didn't sleep with him. I personally didn't want to be at risk for a permanent disease in a non-permanent relationship. Maybe if we were compatible enough to be committed to "forever" -- but just for convenience-relationship, heck no. (I moved 60 miles away for work and the relationship wasn't so "convenient" anymore and we broke up ... so I am glad in retrospect that I didn't sleep with him.)

Oh and a joke: What's the difference between love and herpes? Herpes is forever.....

No the angry pirate requires that you cum in their mouth, then kick them in the shin, punch them in the eye so that they sort of hobble and say "argh..."

I bet 1:05's vagina could solve global warming.

"In my case, I stayed with the guy, but didn't sleep with him. I personally didn't want to be at risk for a permanent disease in a non-permanent relationship."

What'd you two do all day?

1:12, 1:20. what's your problem? did you miss nap time?

I don't get why these self righteous women always call guys like this misogynists. It seems misognystic to deny that SOME women like to be and have the right to be sluts, have public sex, and lick guys' balls and butt holes. Conversely, these same women are probably the ones who instruct their boyfriends in finding her G-spot, smacking her harder, and burying her face in the pillow. Basically, they know how to have good sex. There's nothing more liberated than a woman who knows exactly how she likes to get her rocks off.

This poor girl is turning me into Catherine McKinnon. Where's the quid pro quo here?
----
She gives parameters for library head (times she'll do it) as if she's a pro, but then they both admit they haven't done it at school before. Unless there's some distinction between the library and school to them, that doesn't make sense.

Nerdy guys talk about feminism to explain why they can't get any.

Nerdy girls talk about feminism to explain why guys don't hit on them.

Shut up the both of you. This is why I insist on anal whenever I bang a nerdy girl.

I agree with 1:14, and another important factor to consider in the Career Alternative: Law Librarian topic.

1:26 spot on

Female here - not sure why this is degrading.

Both parties are treating the transaction as a bland transaction. You could substitute in something bland as the subject matter and have the same basic conversation -- say the guy was asking the girl if she'd listen to him practice his moot court opening argument. She's basically saying back that she's willing, but it's not convenient right now and if and when they do find a convenient time, then they have to do it somewhere that they won't be disturbed. If the same conversation had occurred about her listening to him practice his moot court opening argument, nobody would call either of them names or say it was degrading.

Ergo.... I conclude the fact that it is a BJ and/or the location chosen for the BJ is what people find degrading? Why? Is it degrading to give a BJ? Is it degrading to give a BJ in a semi-public location? Some people get off on that, the risk of getting caught - right? So maybe she does. She doesn't sound degraded. She sounds reasonable -- not now, when it's convenient for me, and only if we can do it without getting caught.

"Nerdy"

lulz

SNAP INTO A BJ!!!

So, the people that received the original e-mail with names -- what is the relationship of these two people? Are they known to be BF/GF? Are they married to other people?

Oh man! My law school sucked (no pun intended). All I got was some hand action from some fat, drunk, ugly HLS 1L in the back of a car. Nothing like mouth sex in the library or bathroom stall

1:15 = never had a guy who wanted head from her. And you have to be pretty fugly for most guys to not at least be willing to fling a little yogurt down your pie hole.

I think it's awesome that Professor X teaches there. I wonder if Cyclops and Wolverine stop by.

1:14-- What, somebody might walk into the room and see me standing in front of a urinal with my dick in my hand? Not exactly an uncommon sight. Also there's an outer door to the room so I can stop if I hear someone coming. Try it-- much easier than wiping the floor of the stall after.

He should have suggested HE sit on the toilet while SHE got on her knees and blew him=Blumpkin. Concluding with an Alaskan Dragon or Pirate is optional.

1:35 -- wiping the floor stall? How do you ever expect to hit a girl in the eye with aim like that?

If he is a "misogynist" then she is surely a mister ogynist.

1:31 - I love you.

1:33 = Best.comment.ever.

1:31,
The blowjob is not degrading. The risk is not degrading. The suggestion that she hop-to and blow him while sitting on a men's shitter (one of the nastiest things on Earth) is potentially degrading.

1:12, 1:20,
Shut your pie holes. Just as in nature, there is nothing wrong with picking off the sick and the weak first. However, be man enough to admit that you are targeting a honey with low self-esteem.

1:05

1:24 - Drink. Often at a local pub where his buddies would see me and make comments like, "Man, I wish I was hitting that" and he'd grit his teeth and think, "Yea, me too" but not say anything.

This was absolutely humiliating.

Anyone who challenges this is full of shit. If not, why don't you put your name by your assertion? You wouldn't, because even being associated with such a mortifying thing would ruin you.

1:14(2) - My technique is I come into my cupped palm.

I wipe it up with toilet paper and toss it in the bowl. I flush, I wash my hands, I leave.

Easy and clean.

Godwin's Corollary to ATL: In the course of any online discussion, some idiot will sooner or later declare that anyone unwilling to sign their name to a comment lacks credibility. That idiot automatically loses.

Why bother wiping the floor at all? That's what WCL-educated janitors are for.

1:33 #4

funny

I need to meet women like this.

Given the powerful aroma of patchouli oil that wafts off the AU campus, I assume there are quite a few feminists there with attitudes like 1:05. I feel bad for the guy.

1:42 - I agree, personally, that it doesn't sound like an attractive offer. But she seems fine with it. So why should I judge her for that? If you're a straight guy and another guy asked to have sex with you in a casual text message -- you might be annoyed or offended. However, if you're a gay guy and another gay guy you have an on-going thing with asks casually in a text to have sex, then might respond like the chic did in this case. On the other end of the spectrum, if you're a total prude and your husband suggests a BJ in the marital bed, you might feel degraded by the suggestion. To each their own. My point is why label someone as degraded or lacking self-esteem because she is okay with something that you do not find appealing?

1:52,
I am 1:05, and a male. And unlike Mr. What About a Bathroom BJ, I would been thoughtful for a second and gotten the head.

You jackasses obviously have never been in a serious, long term relationship with a woman (other than your mommy).

I have to say, as I avoid studying for the bar today, I have laughed outloud many times in reading some of these comments (between this and the IL civ pro lectures, it's been a funny week).

1:57/1:05: I never said you weren't male. I said you were a feminist. Now that I know you're both, I'll refer to you by the proper label: pussy.

1:57,
Your comment conflates two issues. Female here may be very excited by the offer. That's not open to judgment. Her kink is her kink, and more power to her.

However, it also means she probably has some self-esteem issue. That is what it is. It can be judged, utilized, etc. etc. It doesn't mean she's evil, bad, immoral, etc., but it does mean she's got issues.

2:00,
HA! HA! HA! HA!

Pussy or adult. Either will work.

As long as they're in the stall, it's the perfect opportunity for a blumpy. You guys are missing the big picture here.

the order of the convo was totally rearranged!

Anyone have a link to the full conversation?

How many unsolicited offers do you think this lady received to join various study groups after this IM got emailed around campus?

the guy who wanks in the urinal must have a tiny cock.

Also, what's this about cleaning the floor if you pull one out in the stall? Shoot it into the bowl, jeez. Pretty big ass target.

between 1:35 and 2:12 I'm sensing a blumpkin trend!

American ought to use this in their brochure... The number of applicants (or at least males) is bound to go through the roof...

So wait, Monica Lewinsky went to law school? Shouldn't this deserve a whole separate post?

1:15 = UGLY law school chick that holds her nose up @ people because she made law review...that is all you got 1:15.

2:22 -- Lat did a post last summer about Lewinsky going to law school. Apparently, she was summering at Kirkland in Chicago and slapped a male summer at an event. The dude got no-offered, but it's unclear whether Lewinsky did too.

omg! she has issues bc she gives head in a bathroom!?! thats ridiculous. law school is encapsulating, we ALL know that and if this is the first time you've ever heard a story like this, then you're kidding yourself that it doesnt happen...

stupid for leaving the chat on the screen, YES! however, i really don't think this is a huge venture from the kind of activity that happens on the regular...nor does it have any relevance to her 'issues'

puppy love

http://www.library.american.edu/ask/im.html

Proceed with submitting your requests

2:20-- Don't you think it's a bit obvious what you're doing if people see your feet facing the bowl in the stall?

She will GO DOWN in history, all right.

I can't tell if this girl is awesome or a whore.

2:17,
They ought to put her name on here:

male: heu. hey.

female: Hey - I just got your text, blah blah blah?

male: is there any way i can get a bj in my office right now?

female: No, blah, blah, blah.

male: Don't be like that. Get on the shuttle, come here and blow me.

female: I think the same rules should probably still apply. I'm not so keen on getting kicked out of school

male: Kicked out of school? You're at American. I'll get you an interview here.

female: It's just not such good timing. If you really want, you can wait at school until I'm done with the [Professor X] stuff, but that will probably be pretty late, but at least we'd have less of a chance of getting caught.

male: Screw it. I'll call Spitzer's ho.

these students and these commentators have no business being lawyers. no class, no standards, no discretion.

12:39(1) = pee-myself-funny. "Alaskan dragon" is now my favorite catch phrase.

2:44 is clearly the male in question.

Feeling a little pent-up aggression today, buddy?

2:45, leave poor 2:44 alone. He got blue-balled by the kind of chic who gives BJs in the library and the bathroom. Tough.

Nope, just shame at my peers who try to pass as professionals.

2:31 -- no. obviously, if somebody comes in, the mission is aborted. I act like I've just finished wiping, flush, and leave.

2:48 -- if you're capable of feeling "shame," you're in the wrong profession.

@2:25 - well played, very well played indeed

Sorry, not peers, misogynists.

2:25 is that a true-story?

12:32 is ron mexico

I don't think the alaskan dragon is quite what the herpes guy described earlier. It's close, though. From wikipedia:

Alaskan Dragon: Where the man ejaculates into the woman's mouth, and she then puffs out her cheeks and the man presses them in again forcefully, causing the semen to spew out like a dragon's fire.

IronKey... its an encrypted usb flash drive... and it comes with a built-in web browser that leaves no trace on public computers...

A dragon's fire comes out of its nose, not its mouth. Pressing the girl's cheeks together won't achieve that effect; you have to cover her mouth and force her to choke.

Urban Dictionary appears to confirm this, which is a much better source for this type of stuff than Wikipedia.

Actually, I guess a dragon's fire can come out of either its nose or mouth. I suppose both techniques can qualify as the Alaskan Dragon. (3:40)

2:49-- If you stop when someone comes in anyway, then that just gets us back to the question of why the urinal isn't more convenient.

I heard the chick from this chat got an offer from the firm of Dixen Yermouth.

You call this an “amusing instant-message”? What if it is true and a private conversation was discovered and passed along at the expense of these two people? Granted one was totally stupid to have used a public computer and even more pathetic not to have signed out but the cruelty of making a joke of this, especially if people’s names are out there - that is just beyond my imagination. I think it is one of the lowest things I’ve ever seen. We should all learn a lesson from this but the lesson isn’t only to sign out. The person who spread it all over creation should not only understand how cruel this is but realize it is a violation of privacy and the school’s computer regulations. Could you imagine if suddenly one of your private conversations were posted all over creation? What is the matter with people that we find so much amusement from other people’s humiliation? This could ruin someone’s life. I don’t find it funny at all.

12:48(2) -
Holy shit, I can't stop laughing.

3:44, b/c people busting in on me by a urinal will *clearly* see what I'm doing.

And unlike the original person with the idea, stroking my hard-on doesn't look much like I'm holding my limp dick in my hand for a tinkle.

Seriously? facing TOWARDS the toilet? obviously you guys dont put on your thinking caps when its time to wank the willy. Observe:

1. Use the stall. Urinal may be cleaner if you have bad aim and don't like to catch it in your pal (dusgusting, 1:45, disgusting), but why risk having to abort the mission. Besides, if you do abort, then you have a hard d!ck in your hands - which for me would not be easy to tuck straight back into my pants - and you have to stand there for a minute without making the sound of pissing, which will arouse (pun intended) suspicion. Solution: stall, where no abortion is needed (altho I maintain you have the right to do so if desired).

2. FACE AWAY FROM THE TOILET!! Hell, sit down if you want. Either way, your feet are pointing the right direction, and nobody is the wiser. You can even moan or groan a little and people will just assume you had bad mexican the night before. Right before eruption, a quick 180. That's all- not rocket science.

Also: the best way to get head in a stall is to bring your bags and some books in with you. Stand facing away from toilet, and make a little platform in front of you (out of the books and bags that reaches higher than the bottom of the door/stalls. Then the girl need only to kneel on this platform and derb away. And once again, no need to abort when others come in.

There will be a test on these concepts tomorrow in the handicapped stall of the downstairs bathroom. See you all then!

"[T]he cruelty of making a joke of this, especially if people’s names are out there - that is just beyond my imagination."

I take it you're new to ATL.

Ugh, 4:02.

"all over creation"?

You are in the wrong topic. The post about the creationist branding his students was a few days ago.

"ruin someone's life"?

plz! the world is no longer made up of puritans like yourself. This is just an embarrassing story these two will tell their future friends. We've all done stupid shit, and I for one wouldn't think any less of these two if I knew who they were. Its good for a quick laugh, and it'll be forgotten by all rational/reasonable people before long. YOU may harbor disgust towards them, but nobody cares about the opinion of a prude intelligent-design-believing overreacting idiot anyway.

4:04(1)-(2):

Ok, to clear up some misconceptions, the urinal thing would not work in all mens' rooms, but where there's a metal divider between the urinals and an outer door to the bathroom so you can hear people coming before they open the door, discovery is really not a problem. Also, no, you don't have to stand there for a minute with a hard dick in your hands-- nothing kills a boner faster than having some dude walk in on you. There's also no great risk of being interrupted if you use a secluded restroom; I'm usually done in 30-45 seconds, so we're talking about a pretty narrow time frame. Then just flush, grab a paper towel to wipe off, and head back to outlining.

Why would anyone use a stall or a urinal?? Every school I've ever been in has at least a couple one-holers. Go find them, and make a special trip when you need to. Lock the door and face any direction you like. Just clean up after yourself.

Why not just...not masturbate in public areas? Are we really so immature that we can't hold it until we get home? What's the big need for sex anyway? I could be working on my briefs or doing something else productive with my time rather than get undressed and sticky for an hour or two.

And to 4:04, why would anyone assume the guy at the urinal was "up" to something unless they can see his hard dick? Maybe he just has pee anxiety.

Something something Learned Hand-job.

4:21 - - Exactly. You've got to find a nice, quiet secluded solo stall to handle your business. The best one at my college was in the basement of the chapel (which was right next to the library). Hell, here I come. (pun intended)

"up" to something - zinger!

Question for the board. I'm going to turn 36. I live in the city in a nice place that my parents own. I pay the maintenance and the mortgage and con ed. But they still keep most of thier stuff and they come and go as they please. Also, they don't let me bring any girls over. (I'm a guy not a lesbian). I want to move to cheaper place in Brooklyn so I can get a wife. But my parents say they can't afford to keep the place without me. I tell them to sell the apartment which is work $500k. (They have a $1.25 mill house in the Hamptons with less than 60k). They tell me they don't want to sell because they like the convenience of the city. What should I do?

4:02, how do you feel about 4:21 beating it in the Chapel?

Let's shift this conversation away from masturbation at law schools and toward masturbation at law firms.

Do associates use the bathrooms at firms, or do they use their offices? Do associate offices typically have locks?

4:28-- Definitely office. Just make sure to throw some scrap paper into the wastebasket after so the custodian doesn't notice.

2:38, why on earth would these be mutually exclusive? In my book they overlap at 50% or better...

If WCL actually had a crew of attractive females that would give head on demand like this, maybe the university would actually stop yield protecting its applicants since a lot more students, thought male, would matriculate.

4:36 -- " What is the matter with people that we find so much amusement from other people’s humiliation?"

Answer: Not sure. Maybe we shouldn't judge whether there's something "the matter," but accept that it is part of being human to enjoy the humiliation of at least one, if not two, of our peers. It's straight up human nature. So natural infact, the Germans made a word for it: Schadenfreude.

4:21 which briefs are you talking about?

lol @ 4:42

4:42(1) I agree with you, but let's be careful. Just because the Germans like something doesn't give it credibility. See Hasselhoff, David.

4:50, re: David Hasselhoff, point well taken. However, see the wikipedia entry for Shadenfreude, and you'll find that numerous cultures agree with the Germans.

For instance, I think we can all agree that we like the Swedes, who say: skadeglädje är den enda sanna glädjen. For those of us who don't speak Swedish, that's "schadenfreude is the only true joy."

I got this forwarded to me today with a string of probably a hundred names and I don't even go to the damn school.

The names of these people seem to be known to half of D.C.

I feel bad for this woman, super embarassing.

To 4:15

This could very well ruin someone's life. The Bar is a tricky, prudish institution, and some states' Bars more than others. What if these people's names were revealed on this site? A simple google search would bring this post up, with the names and conversation, and the person might face some sort of prejudice because of it; not only with the Bar, but also with prospective employers.

It could also ruin your law school life. While I'm hard-pressed to find anything scandalous whatsoever about two adults talking about oral sex, apparently a large enough contingency of WCL students, their friends, and ATL seem to think this is a noteworthy conversation. I've always been under the impression that everyone is either going down on someone or getting oral from someone else: apparently, this is not true and a heretofore undiscovered world of adult prudes has been revealed by this situation.

How depressing that this is what counts as a scandal. Most people I know wouldn't find this interesting enough to forward: the WCLer who sent this is probably as experienced as a twelve old in sexual matters and as repressed as a Catholic priest. And the spread of this conversation proves that those he sent it to have a similarly immature outlook as well.

And, as stupid as it was to leave this conversation up, the person involved who was NOT responsible for this mistake now has to face school everyday knowing that everyone had a laugh at her private life behind her back. How would YOU like to pay $40,000 a year to go to school with repressed prudes who find this funny, shocking, scandalous and who cruelly spread it around?

It would make me sick.

I think all of the WCL students involved in spreading this around should be ashamed of themselves and should really ask themselves how they would feel if the situation were reversed and they had been treated like this.

4:26(2) - what you should do is get a fucking life and stop making up stories lacking humor, credibility or any sort of human interest. If you indeed pay "con ed" you know its "com ed" short for "commonwealth edison." Idiot.

4:02, 5:06, and other annoying people:

1. You didn't have to read this if you didn't want to. Note the warning: "If you have delicate sensibilities, stop reading now."

2. This was going to get out with or without ATL. Like 5:05, I don't even go to WCL, and I got the IM convo by email (unredacted).

3. Lat redacted the names before posting, so this won't show up if you Google the people, and he gave a warning:

"Consistent with ATL policy -- this hasn't always been our policy, but it is now (chalk it up to "evolving standards of decency") -- please do not name the students or provide further biographical detail about them. If you do, we will remove your comment, and we may ban your IP address from further commenting."

If you don't like stuff like this, that is fine, but do not spoil the fun for the rest of us.

4:59 Interesting. And oh, yes, I like the Swedes. See Silvstedt, Victoria.

Uh, actually it's Con(solidated) Ed, 5:17.

5:17
Actually, "com ed" and "con ed" are two different energy companies. The one in NY is coN ed, short for "consolidated edison".

Which, if you tried typing in www.coned.com , you'd see pretty quickly.

I knew I was correct! Irrespective of what some female law student trued to convince me of, I was certain that Valtrex wasn't merely the name of her favorite brand of sneaker!

BTW, I thought it was Con Ed also and I didn't even know why I thought this. Thanks for informing the ignorant.

A) The Valtrex comment of mine is an attempt at humor and has no basis in any actual occurrence.

5:06 = "female" from the IM conversation

4:28 Definitely office. When I clerked for a firm in Miami, my boss used to have loud sex with his mistress in his office during lunchtime.

5:18-

You find the ruination of people's private and professional lives fun?

Perhaps if you weren't such a troglodyte, you'd be busy getting more head instead of having to get your kicks reading about other people's potential orgasms.

xoxoxo
5:06

Ever notice how if you switch the first two letters of "ruination" it becomes "urination"?

5:17, this is 4:26 Tone down the potty mouth. As an attorney you should be able to express yourself without swearing. I have a legit question. Should I stay with my moms (not my baby moms) or not? Also, I once while in law school I got a BJ in a graveyard. It was pretty creepy yet exhilirating

Temp doc reviewers get pretty horny. See Tom the Temp blog below. Would you guys do a temp?
2:14 No need for the hate. The paralegal supervisor was a temp too. She was in the same boat as us. The way I remember it, we had to work at least one of the 4th of July weekend days. AC was available for only part of the day on Sat. By the fourth, it was an oven. My skirt was literally stuck on me. I know some of the guys and the paralegal were giving me some looks, but I was too hot to even imagine having sex with anyone.

4:32 PM

here's what will likely happen:

- almost nobody who saw this will take the guy seriously anymore

- almost no male who saw this will want to be with the girl anymore

In the unredacted, the creator even went through the trouble of identifying "me:" in the record with the guy's name. Go figure. I can see how this could be funny anonymously, but identifying people like this is pretty sick if you ask me.

There doesn't seem to be a Dean Jaffee (WCL dean of student affiars) post in this thread.

I'm disappointed - his posts are always good for a laugh.

There doesn't seem to be a Dean Jaffee (WCL dean of student affiars) post in this thread.

I'm disappointed - his posts are always good for a laugh.

to 1:17

Actually the notation in the graduation program about donating to the class gift backfired

What everybody noticed was that 2/3 of the graduates DIDN'T contribute, despite a relentless e-mail and personal assault from the "class gift committee." And to count as giving, you could give anything -even just a dollar. Those who didn't contribute were making a pretty definite statement.

There was a sign up on one of the school bulletin board's the next day:

"67% of the Graduating Class Agree That WCL Sucks"

What this thread doesn't point out is that they are dating and in a serious relationship. It is a shame that this guy was an idiot and blew up a private conversation between 2 consenting adults by forgetting to log off his gchat. Doesn't seem that slutty knowing that it was a conversation between a girlfriend and boyfriend (who is pretty sick for jerking it in public). "I'm not knocking porn, I love porn... but when I go to the airport I don't have to buy those magazines, because I have this thing called will power. And I utilize it so that I don't have to whip my dick out in public. I can wait five hours. At least until I'm in the cab on my way home." - David Cross

I hope they get outted.

As a lesbian, I have to say, shit like this demonstrates just how disgusting straight people are.

And if I find out their names, I'll never allow them to get hired at my firm.

5:17

Con Ed is actually correct. Consolidated Edison is the utility in the NY region. ComEd is Commonwealth Edison the utility in the Chicago region. Now who looks like a fool?

8:56pm -

Maybe the 2/3 of the class that did not "chip in" to the class gift did not feel like dumping any more of their money to WCL's never ending worthless endeavors such as hosting a contingent of Brazilian legal scholars to discuss the intersection of law, the rain forest, gender rights, and human rights.

10:15
you do. you do.

10:10
Whats disgusting about a man and a woman having some fun in a bathroom, larry craig style? Good luck getting preggars with your lpga partner.
-Bob Hope

Yes the folks chatting were dumb, but who signs on to a computer and reads someone else's email? Stalker. Sure you sent it to just one person, but didn't you think it would get around? Here's another lesson, be careful what you circulate by email... your name will always be on the "from" line.

I bet she'd make a great moot court teammate. Something tells me she's good at oral arguments. And 11:07, he left the computer signed on, they didn't have to do anything except sit down and read the goodness. If whoever read it was smart, they waited until after that night to send it so they could catch the two in the bathroom :-) Video would have made this post better.
Hmmm.... Pron.... the video choice of the gods.

5:06 a/k/a Mr./Ms. Holier Than Thou:

What are you doing reading Above the Law? Are you at all familiar with what this site is about? Or did you just visit for the first time today?

11:52, I got the email with a different person's signature. I think the original person deleted their info and this is just a poor unsuspecting "forwarder."

11:52 I also got the email with another person's signature. Who knows who the original person is that sent the conversation around? It doesn't even matter because that person clearly wasn't the only one. Why don't you post the person's information that sent it to you?

I must be getting old. Though someone who got a bj in the Trial Ad classroom (at night) and in the fountain (later at night), I have to admit that on both occassions I had to engage in lots of kissing (begging) beforehand to get what I wanted.

But nowadays you just call up some lawchick and say "I wanna you to blow me while I sit on an old copy of the UCC; when can you get here?" and you're golden? Why couldn't I have been born 4 years later???

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the girl was leading the guy on? do we have pictures to prove they actually did anything? i'm a guy and knew girls in ls who would get a kick out this conversation (guys too, though i wasn't one of them). i mean, seriously, what's the harm in fucking (FIGURATIVELY speaking) around with friends?

I still don't like the new layout. . .

jus' sayin'

To the uptight lesbian:

They would never work in your firm. And why are they disgusting? Lesbians don't ever dirty talk? Or perform oral favors?

I'm really surprised at the extent of people's capacity for judgment on something relatively banal.

9:08pm - if they were in a serious relationship it seems odd that the girl didn't know the guy was taking classes this summer, especially since the semester has been going on for weeks now.

6:54
granted the creator identified "me" but b/c the girl's name was already there it wasnt very well going to be anonymous anyway.

I was ever so close to getting library head last semester but she wouldn't go through with it ... my biggest failure in law school.

>>I could be working on my briefs or doing something else productive with my time rather than get undressed and sticky for an hour or two.<<

An hour or two? This isn't "Our Bodies, Ourselves" here. If you need to knock one out, you knock one out.

i wonder how many people have received the unredacted email version by now....

So glad you removed the names - I feel awful for these people. Although I wouldn't blame anyone for passing on such a funny email, who was the initial A$$h*le that sat down at a computer and thought it would be a good idea to throw their classmates under the bus instead of just logging out for them?

The world needs more blow jobs. I applaud these fine students for doing their part to make Earth a better place.

Let's bring this discourse to a higher level. 1L Contracts class. Like, did the parties to said agreement over one (1) "blowjob" (hereinafter, the "blowjob" or "bj") reach a meeting of the minds? Is there a bargained for exchange? Is this an agreement to agree, or have they already agreed? Will that hold up in court? What about the failure to put the agreement in writing, does that violate the Statute of Frauds? What if the blowjob takes more than 1 year to finish? If the guy writes the contract on his penis, will it stand up in court? Write out your answer fully, explaining your reasons and any case law or other authority that supports your position.

12:39: I never laughed so hard at a post before. Pure comedy . . . thank you.

12:14 - "Pwned?" Are you kidding me?

"Just make sure to throw some scrap paper into the wastebasket after so the custodian doesn't notice."

Don't worry about the custodian. He's cool with it. A female associate I know came into her office late one evening after court and discovered the custodian sitting in her chair, using her computer to view porn, and wanking off.

I graduated from WCL, and I saw the original chat. It's largely unchanged. It's for real, there is no context. He straight out asked her for head. End of story.

Boy oh boy, I bet WCL is wishing the moron who heads the "technology department" had figured out how to enable the wireless.

Any comment for the ages, Dean Jaffee ?

5:16 "I think all of the WCL students involved in spreading this around should be ashamed of themselves and should really ask themselves how they would feel if the situation were reversed and they had been treated like this."

Hey, what do you expect ?

WCL is a vastly over-priced, overcrowded shithole.

Its only purpose is to fund the activities of an egomaniacal little dean whose agenda is to get himself on the board of every single "International Human Rights" organization of the world.

4:44, you don't sound credible at all. Another WCL hater?

I agree w/4:31, who wrote: ""Just make sure to throw some scrap paper into the wastebasket after so the custodian doesn't notice."

My favorite technique is to stuff the used kleenex into an empty Starbucks cup, then toss it into the garbage can.

11:54 - 4:44 does seem like a WCL hater ?

An awful lot of graduates from that school think the school sucks. (To say nothing about all those who transfer out as soon as they can.)

Is any other school so widely despised by its students ?

Do you think the little toad of a dean has something to do with it ?

It was at AU -- what do you expect? That school is chock-full of douchebaggery and rich girls with no f*cking clue what is going on. I know...I am an AU alumna. Sometimes I think my diploma was bought off the Internet since that school is such a waste of space.

It was at AU -- what do you expect? That school is chock-full of douchebaggery and rich girls with no f*cking clue what is going on. I know...I am an AU alumna. Sometimes I think my diploma was bought off the Internet since that school is such a waste of space.

It was at AU -- what do you expect? That school is chock-full of douchebaggery and rich girls with no f*cking clue what is going on. I know...I am an AU alumna. Sometimes I think my diploma was bought off the Internet since that school is such a waste of space.

Since this was AU, it is a mistake to assume the person asking for the bj was a male. There is a much higher chance it was 2 lesbians.

Also, 4:21said, "what's the big need for sex anyway? I could be working on my briefs or doing something else productive with my time rather than get undressed and sticky for an hour or two."

WHAT???? You would rather work on a brief than have sex? That is so profoundly wrong that reading it almost short-circuited my brain.

12:33 is such a loser. You are the type of person who names your law school band "Blackacre." What? No jokes about "minimum contacts"? Want to cover some other first year law topics? Try to work in a joke about "noisy withdrawal" and I'll give you some props. And I know that I'm late to the game on this, but I just had to say how much 12:33 is a loser.