Yea...but you can't cut and paste (right?). There are other little things that keep me with a blackberry.

in b4 "[redacted]" gets "downsized"

Latham's reasoning seems questionable. The iPhone has always had an integrated security code option for access to the device for the user and Apple's Enterprise software permits an administrator to wipe the device's date remotely if it is lost or stolen. Implementing a firm-wide policy that requires users to have a security code on their devices would likely resolve much of their concern.

And, no, I don't work at Latham.

Also 3:12, that's correct. The 2.0 firmware still does not have cut and paste.

Cutting and pasting would be nice for the iPhone. A usable browser, an email client that preserves formatting and can open PDFs, 3G speed and a browser that doesn't make me want to return to the age of the carrier pigeon would be nice for the Blackberry.

Oh, and FWIW - Mayer Brown is a nogo for the iPhone. Sigh.

Good call, L&W. I'd love to use the iPhone, but it needs to have full encryption.

Good call, L&W. I'd love to use the iPhone, but it needs to have full encryption.

uh latham people are wrong! to mitigate this efficiently, existing Data Leakage Prevention (DLP) solutions for mobile devices include two layers of defense. firstly, DLP components residing at servers, PCs or dedicated network appliances prevent data leaking from the corporate resources to the mobile devices by intercepting and filtering data in all communications channels used by those devices. secondly, device-resident infosecurity components should prevent data from uncontrollably leaking from the mobile devices.

but they re corrct in not getting the iphone because iphones only work with cingular or at&t "service" or lack thereof. bb's you get with verizon and you can actually use them

What do people think about the Treo (vs. the Blackberry vs. the iPhone)?

Treo...hahahaha

The associate who wrote that Debevoise letter has iBalls.

Great e-mail by the Debevoise associate. Def has balls.

Hey, what's a cold offer?

A new program called BILLBULL for time keeping is going to be offered by Exparte Staffing and will be available on iTunes soon.The program will run on the phone. When tapped, the icon on the iPhone home screen will take you to a
list of your clients where you have the option of selecting specific (and customizable) tasks to track.
Once a task is selected, BILLBULL begins to time the specific work done for each client. BILLBULL
can also do weekly standard timesheets.

What's the big deal--I-Phone, Trio, BB, however you look at them, in the end they are all balls and chains

Cold off = offer to help a summer associate (who the firm does not want, for whatever reason) to save face when applying to other firms

hey 3:24 treos suck. they are not meant for people who work with email. thought they are much better organization etc.

and I always thought a cold offer was an offer letter placed in the freezer before it was given to you--shows you what i know

"One firm that's not phalling for the iPhone: Latham & Watkins."

"phalling"? Lat, what's on your mind today?

3:43 Obviously the Troy King story

3:43 lat is feeling phat today

Balls? This guy sounds like a huge dork.

3:52 maybe a dork but with huge balls!

or maybe, just maybe we have our next summer associate story. could be this email writer is a summer and is now telling managment what to do?!

Last week I called K&E's tech support, and someone there told me Kirkland would not be offering iPhones to its incoming associates. Too bad, because having both the Blackberry and the iPhone does not seem feasible, but I was recently blown away by an iPhone demo I checked out.

iPhone= (relatively) cheap way to make associates happy!

The DW associate who sent that email to his managing partner is a freaking idiot unless he personally knows the managing partner and has a good relationship with him. Most associates haven't even talked to their MP so this associate is likely a tool and an idiot.

dw? you mean dp

Dear Commenters,

Read the words and don't make assumptions. The associate proposed an open letter. There's no indication that the associate sent anyone other than ATL an e-mail. The article says:

"One Debevoise associate has a solution, proposed in this open letter . . . "

Also, notice no e-mail heading on the proposed open letter. You know what happens when we assume . . .

That's "presiding partner," not "managing partner." Debevoise doesn't have a managing partner.

4:21: No...what happens?

I'm bummed that my firm doesn't support iphones, but I'm getting one anyway.

"One firm that's not phalling for the iPhone: Latham & Watkins."

"phalling"? Lat, what's on your mind today?

Is Lat a phishhead excited about the reunion talk?

Despite moving to TTT, Sonnenschein was part of the iPhone keynote by Steve Jobs. The fact that this isn't on the front page of their website today is indicative of their problem.

why are you asking about cold offer? did u get one?

The whole "make it policy to require everyone to put a security code on their iphone" is not a real security measure. First of all, there is nothing to force the attorney to follow the firm policy on an Iphone. On a blackberry, there are electronic security policies that force you to do this. A simple 4 letter/number password can generally be broken by any serious (and probably some not-so-serious) hackers to access the data and once you get pass the security code, all the data is available. On a blackberry, you get 10 shots to enter the security code incorrectly or the device automatically wipes clean.

And the whole part about IT being able to remotely clear someone's Iphone is helpful, but again not enough. What if I lose my Iphone (or it is stolen) when I'm at a bar on Friday night and I've had enough to drink that I don't realize it until I wake up at noon on Saturday morning. The person who found/stole the Iphone has had about 12 hours to get the data off it before IT even knows the device needs to be wiped.
Alternatively, the person who found/stole the device could just take it to a basement or somewhere with no signal so that the IT person could not remotely wipe the data.

For the remote wiping, both of these problems exist with Blackberries, however, the firm can implement mandatory security policies that require paswords and limit the number of times someone can enter an incorrect password to make the devices pretty secure.

430:

No just mentioned yesterday in the comments and I didn't know what it was.

3:24 one of the partners at my firm has a Treo and SWEARS by it. Says he's had one since they first started rolling them out, updates every year and is not tempted to switch to BlackBerry or the iPhone. Me, I'm partial to BlackBerry, touchscreens piss me off.

4.50: Good for you! glad you didn't get one (even though I dont really think firms actually give such offers)

3:18 -- did Mayer make an announcement re: the iPhone? I hadn't heard anything yet.

First, the firm can force the iPhone's to require passwords. In fact, the firm can dictate quite a bit re the preference of the iphone through the exchange system.

Second, it is true that any self respecting hacker can get past any code so long as the data that is being protected is in an unincrypted state. That is a concern with the iphone as one just needs to mount it as a drive and search the data without ever entering the code.

Third, there are plenty of other ways to get to the data, so the encryption is not a huge deal.

Fourth, with respect to the remote whipe, that is nice, but not entirely effective. If an iphone, or blackberry for that matter, is taken for the purpose of grabbing data, one would immediatly disconnect it from the network and insure it would never receive the whipe signal. Whipes are good, however, for those devices that are lost or stolen with the intent to use or sell so as to have time connected to the network before they reach someone who intends to mine the data.

And yes, I'm in Big Law and spell this way.

Wilson Sonsini just announced that it will give associates the new iPhone, and it will pay all the phone & data service charges. Pretty cool. Hope my new firm follows suit :-)

Townsend, a techy-San Fran based-IP firm is not supporting the iPhone... f'n lame.

Any word on Mayer or Sidley?

Finnegan Henderson, a big IP powerhouse, will support the iPhone.

The firm pays for the voice/data service, and the iPhone (8gb) as well if you've had your current device for 1 yr or more.

I already lived wiring at winston…and now its so easy for me too send out professional sanding emails while rocking out to vampire weekend…. Who gives a fuck about an oxford comma?

I sure hope that enough firms support iPhones so that all other firms have to match. I got a new iPhone yesterday and I would rather not have to carry two devices. BTW, the phone kicks serious. I had been leery of leaving the safety of the Verizon network but so far I have been pleased. Call quality in NYC is awesome so far, but I haven't been all around the city yet.

Have fun typing your emails on the iPhone. I'm an absolute fan of the thing, but it is not a business-friendly device.

Two words sheep - Blackberry Thunder

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-live-shot-damn-were-good/

@ July 14, 2:49 - says who, you? The *new* phone is Microsoft Exchange ready and you can type on it faster than you can on on a BB or Palm. This idea that one needs a physical keyboard for business-related emails is a farce, perpetrated by those who have never understood and used the iphone's virtual keyboard and who are stuck on stupid with their BB lust.

@ July 14 8:27 AM
Sheep? You're retarded - that just needs to be said off the bat. I hope the Thunder turns out to be an awesome device. That will only force Apple to drive home the innovation to compete that much more. But lets be serious here, its been reported that the Thunder is so slowed up in development that it wont be out for at least 4-5 months. There's that, the fact that the "live shots" show nothing more the keyboard (whoohoo) and most importantly, its f@%cking ugly!

Sonnenschein has approved iPhones too.

I e-mailed Fish & Richardson (national IP firm) tech support, and they will help us set up iPhones for our e-mail, but otherwise will not support them. I was bummed (although the lack of copy & paste still makes me leary of switching to an iPhone anyway).

We're currently running Treo 680s using the GoodLink software. We've been test driving the iPhone, but we've run into several concerns that, from a "business device" perspective, our attorneys find troublesome:

- Inability to create meetings on the Calendar. Only appointments, with no ability to invite others.

- Inabilty to access Exchange public folders. Our firm keeps a directory in an Outlook public Contacts folder and we've been floored by how many of our users rely on that as a source of information. We could populate the GAL with the information, but it turns out that the GAL information is untouchable...so even if we did store the phone numbers for firm personnel there, you couldn't actually access them and use them to dial.

- No spell check or ability to create "shorthand" to help with typing. Yes, we've looked at some of the third party apps available. No, we weren't impressed.

- Don't even get them started on the keyboard. Holy cow.

It's tough -- some of our users say they're willing to give up some of the Outlook functionality they've enjoyed via GoodLink in exchange for the "wow" factor of the iPhone. Others say that a "wow" factor does not a business-enhancing device make.

Old post, I know, but does anybody have any idea whether the new iPhone 3G S supports "whole device encryption"?