First.

t-bone first

First!

Topic jumped the shark three days ago.

Using the phrase "jumped the shark" has jumped the shark, Fonze.

Ah, yes, fooling around with a partner--the Tucker Maxx method of securing an offer after screwing around all summer.

The only difference is that these girls actually did make it with a partner. Tucker is a douche.

I don't know, Lat. The photo documentary of their sweet segway tour didn't exactly scream, "Buck Wild." Think these girls are pretty homely, and the false boner resulting from memories of Wild Things is wearing off.

Ah, yes, fooling around with a partner--the Tucker Maxx method of securing an offer after screwing around all summer.

The only difference is that these girls actually did make it with a partner. Tucker is a douche. I'm happy that he and Maddox have faded away into obscurity.

Who knew that a Minneapolis firm would have a wilder summer program than my V10 firm in NYC....

Lat, this is such a lame post. There's nothing here.

if this is true, the story escalated from really good to awesome .. any ideas on what happens to the partner in that situation? (besides his wife leaving him)

4:49 - Give Lat a break. Overall this was a good week on ATL.

where is the reporting on outright banging on the conference room table (during evening "work") or something .... Making out with married partners?? BFD

13's right, except for that pants down post, which almost cancelled out this awesome story.

Lesson to Lesbian Summers: Make sure you bring a (male) Partner along for the ride ;-).

Does L&V need a lateral corporate associate?

This is going to make LV the hottest firm to summer at for 2009.

OMG # 10 is a summer associate in a V10 firm in NYC. That definitely means that he is an awesome person, who is fun to be with....

I'm bored with this topic.

17: They need a dorsal corporate associate. Go at it.

I agree with 11, Lat. Let it die, once and for all.

And get a real job.

i have a hard time believing this.

if firms fired a random associate every time a partner made out with someone other than his wife, there'd be no associates left.

19 - It's Friday dude, what's with the agro? Oh, hi Hope.

You know everyone at Lindquist is reading this right now. Everyone is going to ask until they find out the name of the summer and the partner. That is so awesome. I hope some attorney forwards this link to the partner's wife and lets her know that her husband is the partner.

Ha, Lat played this extremely well. And he made serious news doing it.

Even if summer scandals go away because of ATL's transparency, that's not bad. It's like law firm pay going up, or maternity leave getting better, because of transparency.

In this case we (associates and young'uns) are the ones having to improve or suffer, but either way Lat's making the whole profession a better place and having tons of fun doing it.

David, I'm upping my subscription to $10/month.

23 - yes, and could someone explain to me the POINT of firing a random associate when a partner makes out with another associate? Is it to make it appear that the fired associate was the culprit? So she's not only out of job but labled a slut.... what?

If Nancy Vollertsen does any table dancing, best be sure it is a good solid table made to withstand multiple G-forces.

12 & 25

How are we so sure that the partner was a male? Maybe one of the summers was making out with a female partner.

How about this site does something on Avvo being denied the master roll of attorneys by the Supreme Court of Illinois. That is much more jucier. Oh, I forgot, they pay you for advertising. I wish this site was not partial.

29: That was my take.

@ 29 & 31 - because it says "I bet they didn't fire that GIRL because they were afraid of employment discrimination suits."

pretty sure they meant the summer, not the partner.

Yeah, 25, once Minnesota gets the internet.

This doesn't make any sense. Partner A makes out with Summer B so they fire Summers C and D (who were also making out).

What purpose could that possibly serve other than calling attention to the entire make-out-oriented situation?

This doesn't make any sense. Partner A makes out with Summer B so they fire Summers C and D (who were also making out).

What purpose could that possibly serve other than calling attention to the entire make-out-oriented situation?

32:

"How are we so sure that the partner was a male? Maybe one of the summers was making out with a female partner.

"because it says "I bet they didn't fire that GIRL because they were afraid of employment discrimination suits."

Hello--since lesbian love was in the MN air that night, why eliminate the "partner" as a woman? fired "girl" could have kissed a FEMALE or a male partner.

"This doesn't make any sense."

Indeed, it makes no sense, but it's more entertaining than studying for the bar. Of course, youtube beats both by a mile.

OK, who spiked the punch bowel at partner X's house with e that night?

It is the only plausible explanation.

Co-sign 36

/s/ 29

@ 36 - it was a married partner. last time i checked the midwest wasn't exactly a hotbed for gay marriage.

~32

@ 36. unless you are suggesting a female summer kissed a female partner who was married to a man.

jeebus.

anyway. still willing to bet it was a male partner.

~32

@ 38:

Spiking the punch bowel sounds like something guys at my high school used to do all the time, it was no big deal.

32:

Hello--(again)--but being married does not exclude being lesbian or bisexual. (Closet or otherwise.)

Barring the "e" theory, just how much alcohol was served at the partner's MN dinner party that at least 4 libidos broke away from their moorings in such a public manner as to be repeated in a Washington DC blog?

I am the gatekeeper!

#29 Only in your wildest dreams!!!!

44, you should expound further on your "e" theory.

Cravath summers make out all the time. Cravath summers can make out with anybody, anytime. Huzzah!

Because the doctor is his MOTHER!

That being some jokester spiked some drinks with ecstasy, and was not disappointed with the resulting chaos. Either that or they were drinking 151 rum punch.

This was DINNER party at a partners HOUSE, after all.

Which leads me to query, how many partner as this firm own a house big enough to seat the entire SA class + select associates + partners for dinner?

Bravo 44. Bravo.

It would have been more interesting had they made out in a TTT

The Pants Down story is a TTT.

51: thank you JM.

50 - As someone from MN with a tiny house, I can assure you there are plenty of partners in MN with large enough houses to accommodate an entire SA class. Also, there are some insanely large yards at these houses.

19, You're right Baker BoTTTs is an awesome firm!!

there are only 10 SA's - a cardboard box in the middle of manhattan could fit the entire summer class

In light of 55's observation we need more clarifying information from insiders posting from their private email accounts.

BTW, has Nancy Vollertsen suggested polygraph tests to ID the tipsters yet?

(I bet she does interview the partners in attendance, thought.)

I heard Arkansas is better than Minnesota.

this story keeps getting better. anyone who says otherwise works for L&V's PR department.

57: OK, 10 SA's.

How many partners were there?

If you were a fly on the wall at a cetain partner's house, you might have seen this:

http://apudgeisasandwich.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/girls-kissing.jpg

Is it true that the male partner tried a three way kiss with the lesbians?

Paul Hastings fires women all the time. So what?

Nice 64.

DID I MENTION LATELY THAT AU LAW IN DC SUCKS?

Someone explain to me the scapegoat theory.

Usually, when two scandalous events occur contemporaneously, you cover BOTH up. You don't expose one in hopes of burying the other.

That's ludicrus.

48 - Sounds scarily reminiscent of Colliton's defense attorney's position.

why do you think that American University's law school is so TTT?

why do you think that American University's law school is so TTT?

Piss on a Cat

Can anyone not still stuck in the office tell me if 62 is NSFW? I could use the distraction.

My interpretation of the conspiracy theory was that summer A first made out with a partner, and subsequently summers A and B made out. Summer A's partner kiss merited firing but due to fear of discriminatory suits, summers A and B were both fired, ostensibly due to their kiss. B was thus fired as collateral damage. Obviously, I'm stretching the insider's statement a bit, and I'm not sure if this makes sense regardless. Thoughts?

8:05 - It says that they didn't fire the girl who made out with the partner (your "Summer A").

@72: 62's pic is delightful, but it it probably NSFW. Just look at it on your blackberry.

all lawyers are dorks (except me)

LAT, I HOPE YOU'RE READING THIS!

Please do a follow-up post that explains the conspiracy theory.

They only way it makes sense to me is if Summer A made out with the partner, then Summers B and C also made out at the same event (or at least on the same night). Then the firm fired Summers B and C, though they might not otherwise have been fired, in an attempt to deflect the attention from Summer A's activities with the partner.

If this is the case, though, Summers B and C aren't really scapegoats (i.e. people blamed for another's transgressions) but are rather a distraction. If this is true, it seems to be working perfectly from the firm's point of view, since the ONLY INFORMATION we have about the partner story is an incomplete and incoherent rambling from a supposed inside source.

The problem with this take on it, though, is that the source specifically said "[ONE of the summers] was probably just fired as a scapegoat." Meaning what? The other lesbian kisser was actually at fault? Was Summer B also involved somehow in the Summer A / Partner escapades? Is this why Summer B isn't a scapegoat, and only Summer C is? There's a big piece of this that's still missing, Lat.

So, again, I repeat my request:

PLEASE ELABORATE FURTHER. Or at least explain what your understanding is of what the inside source dude meant!

Everyone should just go down the hall, find themselves a partner, f--- like bunnies, and get back to practicing law. As Larry Flynt says, "relax, its just sex."

Now thanks to this stupid scandal, it is going to be 5 years before I get to make out with a summer or watch them dry hump their hot friend.

Summer A is butch, Summer B is femme, so clearly its all summer A's fault.

These girls could get Playboy or Penthouse to pay them more for some pics than they would make as a first year. They need an agent.

Hello, I am writing to express absolute outrage at my writing. I am poor at sentence construction, punctuations confuse me, and I have no business attempting to use conjunctions.

Thank you for your attention.

Piss on a Cat

This really makes no sense. 3 female summers start making out with someone at the same event, but only 2 are fired - the 2 who made out with women instead of men? If anything, that bolsters any sexuality discrimination charges these women might bring. Perhaps Lindquist is gambling that they will not bet their legal careers by further association with this story (probably a safe bet), but something is missing here.

Seriously - this is inexplicable as currently explained. Summers B and C take the fall for Summer A's making out with a partner - and this makes sense how?

NO NO NO.

Don't even THINK about linking "firm retreats." You continue to flirt with alienating your readership, and soon enough, I think you will.

Don't be an idiot - I look forward to checking ATL several times a day. As do thousands of other attorneys. You lose US, you're gone. I don't care who you used to work for or what secretive feminine blog you used to write.

Why are you wasting my time with this scandal when you could be working on a sequel to the pants down story?

Gentlemen at my preparatory academy were expressly forbidden from trading in works on the mysteries of the Sapphic arts and would face damnatio memoriae for any transgressions. Accordingly, the publications in this lurid marvel are quite a conspicuous event!

~ Fraternity Lothario

73: Yes, that's how I read it too.

It would've been clearer if the quoted text in Lat's post had substituted the phrase "[another summer]" for "[the other summer]", as in the other of the two lesbian kiss summers who got canned.

That's at least logical and fits with the collateral damage theory for Summer B. And would fit with the sex discrimination logic as well, if they were going to fire Summer A for making out with a partner, but not fire the partner himself.

You've got to ask yourself one question about hot lesbian summer associates making out a firm party: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

No, no, no - the girl that spilled her drink wasn't even a summer at all, she was just some random girl who happened to be there! Why isn't anybody talking about that? Laaaaaattt??!!!

90

They are WOMEN not GIRLS you sexist piece of filth!

Here's how I'm making sense of the conspiracy.

"[The Kiss] happened at a bar with a bunch of summer people after dinner at a partner's house. [Summer A] was probably just fired as a scapegoat, because that same night [the summer, Summer B] made out with a married partner. I bet they didn't fire that girl [Summer B] [for making out with the partner] because they were afraid of employment discrimination suits. [Instead they fired her for making out with Summer A.]"

[the summer, Summer B] should say [the other summer, Summer B]

62 is my hero

This would never have happened if L&V took their summers to the Pasadena Ritz.

The conspiracy theory ignores the fact that the faux-lesbian kiss was itself a legitimate fireable offense. As such, it is hard to characterize the "other" summer as a scapegoat, merely because the first summer is guilty of more than she.

96 - you overlook the fact that some women (not girls) have drinking/emotional problems. not saying that this was definitely the case here but its possible for a mature adult to let drinking get out of hand for reasons other than immaturity.

Piss on a Cat

They should have fired the tipster. What an awful writer. This guy can't even convey a three line story without people having no idea what the hell he is talking about.

ATL comments really illustrate the point that professional writers, as all lawyers are, really aren't very good at conveying information by means of the written word.

It should be an absolute privilege to comment as to the sexual proclivities of lawyers. Defamation :( False Light Liability :( Public Disclosure of Private Facts :( Invasion into the seclusion or affairs of another :( Tortious interferance with family relations (loss of consortium due to criminal conversation with a summer associate) :(

GO BAR GO BAR GO BAR! Where is the pre-bar orgy. I can analyze the torts and common law crimes as I commit them :)

I think the orgy's meeting up at AU, WCL. There's a guy named "Frat Stud" who hosts sex parties all the time, it's a big deal.

The AU women come out to get a shot at an "MRS" from a potential future rainmaker (GW grads). The AU guys come out to watch, and sometimes hold someone's leg up, or hand people towels.

Anyhow, I'm headed over now. I heard Marion Barry's going to be there- he's on the WCL faculty.

Um... at some point, saying "another summer" made out with a married partner narrows the pool so much that it might be de facto identifying information. If I were a hiring partner and i saw ANY summer from lindquist next fall, I'd immediately check to see if any of these facts are close to the candidate's resume.

Law Student for Classy, Sassy College Girl
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/m4w/771099564.html

I had Eric Lindquist for Contracts at Seton Hall University School of Law. He was an excellent instructor!

Hello my dearest friends on www.abovethelaw.com,

My name is the Roger Lou and I am writing to telling all good friends of lesbians about my story from coming to the U.S. of A. from southeast Asia to attend the America's University, Washington College of Law.

I go to America's University because it is best in Americas and helps me to landing a job doing public interest work as the lawyer of immigrant nation. I like the Redskins and Barack Obama and shopping in Tenleytown. I am the associate this summer because of my ability to writing on to America's University law school journal called a law review.

In china we have smog and dust and debris. We also have this saying called if you chase after your dreams with dogged persistance, then you obtain them. But the Roger Lou asks himself, to what do you attribuite the peristance of a dog? As a writer on this good post once said, "poop on a cat."

At this moment, I want to thanking you for the opportunity to speak and say god bless the U.S. of A.

With respect,
诶比西

Wouldn't it be hot if the "married partner" also turns out to be a woman? Awesome!

all of you tards who are so scandalized by this "kiss" must just be mortified at the elderly partners banging the junior female associates at your NYC vault 50 firm...right?

Who the hell is Tucker Max?

2:37 pm / comment 110,

one time, at band camp, tucker max stuck a flute in my pussy.

Tucker Max managed to get himself actually fired after a BigLaw summer where he drank and farted around the whole time, then had a married female partner make a pass at him, whereby the firm bought him off so as not to face a sexual harassment suit when they fired him. At least, that's his story. Max is quite the stud in his own opinion.

This was a feeble attempt to generate more interest in this story.

Eh, are we ever going to get anything on the Alston & Bird firings? I heard 4 let go in Charlotte, more in Atlanta and that they are looking for reasons to get out of making all their summer class offers.

After giving thousands of young law students obscene amounts of money, putting them in offices together, and giving them access to an open bar most nights each week...this is the best summer associate scandal ATL can find? Really?

After giving thousands of young law students obscene amounts of money, putting them in offices together, and giving them access to an open bar most nights each week...this is the best summer associate scandal ATL can find? Really?

Posner, J. on lesbians (Douglass vs. Hustler Magazine, CA7 1985):

Douglass argues that the Hustler feature casts her in a false light in two respects. First, it insinuates that she is a lesbian, which (all agree) she is not. . . .
We would not ourselves think that Hustler was seriously insinuating -- or that its readership would think -- that Robyn Douglass is a lesbian. Hustler is a magazine for men. Few men are interested in lesbians. The purpose of showing two women in apparent sexual embrace is to display the charms of two women. Moreover, the photos obviously are posed rather than candid shots; they show what the photographer wanted the women to do, not necessarily what the women wanted to do. Nevertheless we cannot say that a reasonable jury seeing the pictures and reading the accompanying text with its references to "climactic moments" and "female friend" could not infer that Douglass was being represented to be a lesbian.

114 -- Alston & Bird firings? Please tell.

Boring pent up religious tight *** losers at work again- making sure they can punish people having more fun than them. Two girls had too much to drink and kissed...so what? What's the issue? That they had too much to drink or that they kissed? More like they were having fun and the same losers that weren't invited to parties in high school or college are now fat office drones in Human Resources who can't let things go - mainly because they were never included in it. There is no good looking successful fun person behind this...no way!