Obama - Biden: A Two-Lawyer Ticket
In a text message sent out at around 3 a.m. today, Senator Barack Obama announced his running mate: Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., of Delaware.
Lawyers should be happy with Obama’s veep pick. There are lots of legal angles to Senator Biden:
- like Obama (Harvard Law ‘91), Joe Biden is a lawyer by training (Syracuse Law ‘68);
- he practiced law in Wilmington, Delaware, for a few years (before being elected to the U.S. Senate in 1972, at age 29);
- since 1991, he’s taught a seminar in constitutional law at Widener University School of Law; and
- he’s a longtime member, and former chairman (1987-1995), of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Legal background aside, are you happy with Joe Biden as Obama’s VP nominee? Sound off, in the comments.
Biography: Joe Biden [Senator Joe Biden (official website)]
Obama chooses Sen. Joe Biden to be running mate [CNN]




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FIRST to point out, they are both plagiarists:
Barack Obama : Deval Patrick :: Joe Biden : Neil Kinnock
Biden is a great pick. He adds everything Obama is missing, including foreign policy expertise and experience.
Plus, he's an old white dude.
The guy's got skeletons that will make this a blast. Cheating anyone?
Harvard Law bossing around Syracuse Law: true in Biglaw, true in politics.
The guy is a blowhard
Co-sign 9:04. Biden is so annoying at SCOTUS confirmation hearings. He goes on and on and on....
Yeah, let's talk about skeletons. How about McCain's affair. Do you really want to go there? By the way, McCain's POW status does not translate to being a good president or experience. Wake up people.
The press is wetting themselves like a bunch of sychofantic school boys. The bias is so disgusting.
In the grand tradition of ATL commenters, I wish to suggest to 8 that you probably mean "sycophantic." I'm sorry, but I'm sort of an asshole in the morning.
7, McCain has one skeleton. You named it. Biden's can fill a grave yard. We see what has happened to Edwards and everyone remember's slick WIllie... Plus, we have that little honor code problem. While McCain is honorably declining early release, Biden is not doing his own work. I love a nasty political campaign. So I am delighted by a ticket that will entertain for weeks.
Yeah, I suck at spelling. No offense taken. I wish they had spell check on here.
Awesome pick, that Joe Biden.
9:20 - Um, McCain has way more than one skeleton. You also have:
-- Keating Five
-- shady relationships with lobbyists
-- Cindy's painkiller addiction (and painkiller stealing)
As you say, "I love a nasty political campaign."
I am happy about the Joe Biden pick and not worried about his loquaciousness.
If the Obama campaign can keep Michelle Obama muzzled, they can easily handle Biden.
@11, use Firefox and spell-check is built-in.
Since when did John McCain have an affair? The NYT alleged that something improper might have been going on with that lobbyist, but there was nothing proven. Keating 5 is McCain's skeleton.
David Brooks must be happy. Before the pick was announced, he wrote:
"Biden’s the one. The only question is whether Obama was wise and self-aware enough to know that. "
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/22/opinion/22brooks.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin
13 -- none of those are skeletons. They are out and already part of the consideration of the candidate. Like reported bad earnings, the stock already reflects the problem. Biden is fresh meat for 527s and there are a lot of people that do not like him. So have at it.
Oh, this is so fun. Already, we are hearing replays that great Biden comment about BO being a clean black. Open mouth, insert foot.
Someone is going to say it eventually, so let's get it over with:
Syracuse = TTT
Widener = TTT
Have you seen the new McCain ad with Biden saying BO is too inexperienced but that he would be honored to be on a ticket with McCain? God Bless America.
The biggest impression I got from the guy comes from the confirmation hearings. As someone already pointed out, he was d-bag-level annoying.
Clinton/Bayh '12
9:40 - So true.
I think there was one clip they played on the Daily Show in which Biden, supposedly questioning the nominee, rambled on for 15 minutes - and then never asked a question.
As an originalist, I demand reform. We should return to the olden days when the second-place presidential candidate became the vice-president! Now that would be entertaining.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States#Original_Constitution.2C_and_reform
Maybe Biden couldn't get into a better law school than Syracuse, thanks to affirmative action (which he did not benefit from as a white male).
Or maybe it was his terrible grades
Biden spoke at my firm this summer and simply ripped Obama while slightly praising McCain. He then said he would never accept VP.
And, by the way, the man needs to tone down the shade of those veneers - it's blinding in person.
Lastly, Widener = TTT about 5 times over.
Haha, the candidate of "change" picks an old senator. Once again we see that B.O. is just another politician. His "change" is all rhetoric, and you folks that are drinking his Kool-aid will be sorely disappointed once again. The fact is, B.O. didn't have any great options for V.P. because of his own weaknesses and the way he has shaped the them of his campaign.
And oh my, the text messaging debacle was high comedy. The liberal media was practically wetting their pants waiting for their phones to vibrate.
Should be an entertaining few months....the Biden pick gives the Pubs plenty of ammo, that's for sure.
Anyone see the new McCain comercial where Biden flatly says that Obama isn't ready to lead but that McCain is? Uh oh. . . Obama has got some splainin to do.
29, who did you expect him to pick? someone with no experience like harriet miers?
31: Come on. If you're going to point to the worst person in the party, I'm going to pull out my "Remember Chappaquiddick" T-shirt.
31.......29 here. No. I expected Biden. As I said, B.O. really had no good choices (other than Hillary) because of the themes of his campaign and his inexperience. So he decided to try to patch up the inexperience issue, even though it will do great damage to his central campaign theme, and even though Biden comes w/ HUGE baggage.
The Republicans have dodged a serious bullet. The one Vice President selection that could have given a turbo boost to the struggling Dem ticket (seen the recent polls anyone?) was Hillary. GOP insiders are breathing a huge sigh of relief at the Biden pick....and his comments about Obama, his own problems in the past, and his Washington insider status completely undercut Obama's entire change message.
Who knew that the agent of change has been hiding in the U.S. Senate for 36 years?!
Nice job Barry....you could have won.
Biden stole 5 full pages of a law review article and put them into a paper he wrote in his first year of law school. He claims it was not a malevolent mistake, but who is he fooling?
Here's the NY Times report on it (from 1987) http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE3DB143FF93BA2575AC0A961948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
Guys in my high school picked perennial also-rans with tons of baggage as running mates all the time, it was no big deal.
- FRAT STUD
"I hate America"
-Barrack Hussein Obama
I can't choice between Davis Polk & Wardwell or White & Case.
Between these two which one has the best office out of curiosity and also salary differences?
This is not my criteria for finding which suits me but it was just for fun, if it comes down to this point I would have chosen the best office. LOL
Do any of the V5 ever have time to talk among themselves (associates) besides lunch time?
Ex: go to a bar or even go watch a game together. I know you are not there to socialize but what about after work?
I can't choice between Davis Polk & Wardwell or White & Case.
Between these two which one has the best office out of curiosity and also salary differences?
This is not my criteria for finding which suits me but it was just for fun, if it comes down to this point I would have chosen the best office. LOL
Do any of the V5 ever have time to talk among themselves (associates) besides lunch time?
Ex: go to a bar or even go watch a game together. I know you are not there to socialize but what about after work?
HOPE = JOKE
Just wait to Biden flies off the handle like Dean in Iowa
38-39. Are you really DP or WC material? Spelling and choice of threads are pretty bad. Tighten up man!
what was up with the 3 am timing of the text? trying to mitigate the damage from the 1 am leak that it was indeed biden? trying to show how young and hip he is relative to mccain by texting in the middle of the night? a reference to hil's 3am ad?
9 months ago the thought of obama waking me up at 3am was hot. this morning, it was just annoying.
Umm, 16, it's pretty well known that Johnny Mac was whoring around on his first wife prior to divorcing her and marrying a rich, blonde 20 years his junior.
WHY IS NOBODY MENTIONING THE PLAGIARISM ALLEGATIONS FROM BIDEN'S PAST, TO WHICH HE ADMITTED HE WAS GUILTY?
"Biden Was Accused of Plagiarism in Law School", A1
E.J. Dionne Jr., Special to the New York TImes
Sept. 17, 1987
"Mr. Biden eventually received a grade of 80 in the course, which, he joked today, prevented him from falling even further in his class rank. Mr. Biden, who graduated from the law school in 1968, was 76th in a class of 85."
42, it is also funny how the press is touting the text approach as great suspense and evidence of brilliant campaign discipline. They are also impressed that he can go potty all by himself.
43, old news.
3: Are you serious? I don't think John "I Married My Rich Mistress" McCain wants touch cheating on one's spouse.
Which brings to mind the best McCain staffer quote from the last week:
"The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous."
First, what does his time as a POW have to do with him cheating? It must be written that they have to work that into every comment.
Second, I think its only fair that the first Mrs. McCain have to explain why she attacked John McCain's war record when she divorced him for "allegedly" cheating with the second Mrs. McCain.
Where to Republicans get off assuming that their candidates are models of chastity?
Inspired by Mr. Biden I too did my first year papers the easy way.
Inspired by Mr. Biden I too did my first year papers the easy way.
48. He does not have to. Everyone else can do it for him. And Biden's escapades are far more interesting than a man who "cheated" on his wife to marry another woman to whom he has stayed married for years. It does not excuse the cheating -- something McCain has acknowledged himself. But it makes it far more palatable than a guy who would poke the hole in his backyard fence.
Why Biden did not get into a top-ranked law school.
Citation: NY Times 1987, EJ Dionne
The file also included Mr. Biden's transcript from his days as an undergraduate at the University of Delaware. In his first three semesters, his grades were C's or D's, with three exceptions: two A's in physical education courses, a B in a course on ''Great English Writers'' and an F in R.O.T.C. The grades improved somewhat later but were never exceptional. Biden's Defense on Speeches
Did you hear the CNN reporter say that the only ones who could criticize the pick are Republicans. Duh.
I'm a conservative, but I don't understand what Biden's achievements are. Aren't their liberals like Kaine, Feingold, Seibilus (sp?) with real achievements? All it seems that Biden has accomplished is winning Delaware Senate elections and getting on Meet the Press an awful lot. Also - Obama/Biden - pretty much zero private sector and/or military experience.
As a Republican, I am thrilled by Senator Obama's pick.
This website has been dedicated to maximizing associate compensation, finding ways to get promoted to partner, getting a summer job, ensuring a steady stream of work. How can an attorney in private practice at Big Law support the BO ticket? He is pro union, raising taxes on salaries above $150K (all big law associates fit that category), raising social security threshold (no more third quarter salary kicker when you stop paying into SSA), raising taxes on big business, etc. All of this works against Big Law and their clients. If you think it is hard to find a big law job now because a slow economy means work flow slowdown, do you really think it will be better with these two guys? They want to stick it to the man. In case you have forgotten, as a big law attorney, you are "the man."
25,
As an Asian American, I think we should go back to the good old days where you have to be a WASP to be President. And I'm totally serious.
51: 48 here, but so what if everyone else does? McCain still has that same blood on his hands. And, no, leaving your wife for you mistress and then being "faithful" really isn't any better under the Victorian moral standards Republicans hold Democrats to.
Your real point is that a Republican candidate doesn't have to be a paragon of fidelity because Republicans are the party of Jesus, and thier virtue is irreprochable (see quote from my prior post). Perhaps that's the perception and it doesn't matter as a matter of politics whether that's (a) unfair or (b) untrue, but skewed public perception hardly gives McCain or his minions the high ground as a matter of morals.
16: You do realize that Cindy McCain is not the first Mrs. John McCain, right? John McCain was married to a woman named Carol (Carol McCain at the time) and started sleeping with Cindy Hensley. Now Cindy McCain.
20: I Concur. Widener = TTT. Lamont is MUCH better. Especially if you're fucking an undergrad.
Clinton/Clinton '12 !
wait so let me get this straight:
bush being a bad student = no problem
but biden being a bad student = huge problem?
morons.
58, Fine, but for me, it is not about morals. It is about sport. I will enjoy the mud dragging for its entertainment value alone. BO picked a great candidate because there are plenty inside the beltway who hate him and will enjoy bringing up all his past.
Bush was a bad student who kept taxes down on my big law comp so good president.
Plus, Bush went to Yale where everyone is smarter overall. Not everyone can be at the top at Yale. Seems that Biden couldn't even be top half at two 4 tier schools.
Biden is a great pick. He'll go off on Republicans like no tomorrow and Obama will be able to stand back and be dignified. The inability/unwillingness to attack in 2004 is why the Dems lost.
Biden sends a strong "bring it on mo fos" to the opposition without Barak having to get muddy. Nice job!
54: Are you joking about Kaine? As a Richmond resident, it would have been disastrous to see Kaine nominated. He was a poor mayor and city council member, and hasn't done anything as governor except preside over a budget deficit. He was only elected governor because the Republican nominee (Kilgore) ran such an awful campaign.
He has all the same weaknesses that B.O. has.
66: 54 here - I'm not saying I like Kaine, I'm just saying as a Gov he's done a lot more than Biden has done in 35 years of potificating at committee hearings and on MTP. At least Kaine has dominated the GOP (a trend started by Warner) - while I don't like his policy at least he's done things as a Guv.
If McCain picks Condi the Dems are in serious trouble. Thankfully, he is far too stupid for that.
67: with all due respect, I don't think you know much about Virginia politics. Kaine was in the right place at the right time. He's no Warner. Just what good has Kaine done as governor?
Re: 61 and McCain was last in his class at Navy.
Re: 64 you don't have to be smart to get in when you are the son and grandson of a congressman/ future president. Or in McCain's case when you are the son and grandson of an Admiral.
Can any DE Corporate Attorney's out there give any insight on Biden's business credentials.
I remember him doing a good job neutering SOX. I'm sure he has done a lot more to help out Corporations.
70: I like legacies. I benefited and don't begrudge anyone else that catches a break that way.
Biden's Son is the Delaware AG and he is revered by all the local powerbrokers/politico's there are no skeletons coming out.
73: Sounds like you are saying that his son will use his power as AG to protect his dad. Like father, like son.
Legacies are society's counter-balance to affirmative action.
Bush could not get through a reading of My Pet Goat without disaster happening.
75, and those of us in the middle are the ones getting screwed. Ben Folds had it right:
"Y'all don't know what it's like, being male, middle class, and white!"
76, Wow, that is really stretching it and in very bad taste. 9/11 is no joke. Best remember that because we live in a world where your boy might find himself facing the same unfathomable disaster. I don't wish that on him and can't vote for him because I really do not think he would know what to do if it happened.
71 - I benefited too, however if you "catch a break" by being a legacy or a minority you are not necessarily "smarter" as 64 says.
78: your "boy"?
64 here -- I kinda meant that as a general shout out to all the posts on this site that argue that all who attend a top 5 law school are smarter than those who go anywhere else, especially those at the bottom of the class everywhere else. That concept amuses me.
80, what's the point? your "girl"?
82, that's going to be the big convention surprise!!!
83, Hah. Good one. 80 is the PC police.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=159713
'nuff said.
84, Obama will announce at the convention that he is a hermaphrodite son of immigrant parents with dyslexia and a penchant for buggery. He'll go on Oprah again, announce that he's pregnant, and it will be all over for Mccain.
85, I agree completely and do not see how Biden can pretend he did not say that or many other things.
As for the boy reference, as Biden points out:
I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy
1. As if BO were not elistist enough, we have someone equally, if not more, debonair.
2. As if BO were not sleek enough and had too much substance, he needs a deputy that has "poser" tatooed all over.
Also, was Biden the one who said that BO is successful because "he is the first clean-looking well-spoken black guy in politics?" Imgine the fury if either Clinton says something even remotely resembing that...
I have the sinking feeling that OB will beat Bush for the title of worst president ever.... The guy is politician through and through, has no real experience to speak of, no work ethnics, so fake, and, unlike Bush, is really meansprited (see the periodically feeling up and down remark about Hilillary) ..., and wait, was BO the one who never hesitates to paly the race card and shovel his white grandma in the closet during the primary?
nice dive into baseless political banter lat
are the page views seriously that low?
Legacy OR a minority, ha!.... Barack, like many others, is a legacy AND a minority. His father was a Harvard-trained economist (AM '65). Harvard? Economist? Yes -- imagine that.
The good news is that neither circumstance means shit. Either you can cut it or you can't. Ergo, McCain is 5th from last in his class as a double-legacy. Even Jimmy Carter, love him or hate him, was in the top 10% of the Academy.
On the other hand, Obama was president of HLR. The most affirmative of action won't put you in that position without substantial proof of competency.
McCain had his chance long ago as a maverick. Now he votes the desperate, failing, party line 100%.
McCain is the REAL AMERICAN HERO. Accept it. GOP 2008-2016.
The Biden pick smells of weakness. Talk about making up for shortcomings. The ticket would be great if it was Biden/Obama ... but this is the bizarro ticket, the inexperienced, far-left window dressing at the top of the ticket, the experienced center-left Senator who has a record of actually thinking through issues and coming to reasonable conclusions, like them or not, at the bottom of the ticket?
Biden is ready to be President, Obama is not. McCain was pulling even or even slightly ahead by getting the message across that Obama is not ready to lead. Now, every time Obama and Biden campaign together we will see the contrast between a man ready to lead, and one who is not. So we go from having to see the contrast in just three debates to virtually every day.
McCain just needs to hammer home the message that Obama, while he is by all accounts a good and popular guy, has not done anything that suggests he is up for the job of President.
If he really wants to nail it, he'll pick Sarah Palin (Alaska Gov. with 80%+ approval ratings, and who supports drilling in ANWR), who will shore him up with the conservative wing (as if that's needed), give McCain yet another look by disaffected Hillary supporters, and give yet another vehicle for McCain to push that he is the better choice on the energy issue, which is becoming THE issue in this campaign.
Biden and Gelb have been saying the most sensible things about Iraq for several years now. Too bad everyone wants to pay attention to what Biden did 20 years and more ago.
93 - Biden-Gelb was an interesting idea, though pretty much moot now, unless you still find Balkanization of Iraq preferable to a unified Iraq now that there is relative peace and security in Iraq.
I do agree, however, that at least Biden was pushing for a new way forward way before the Bush administration realized its "Stay the Course" strategy was failing. Of course, McCain was pushing for a change in strategy just as long, and his was adopted, and largely worked.
Ultimately, both McCain and Biden had it right on Iraq ... they both supported the invasion, and both came down hard on Bush and Rumsfeld when it became clear that the administration had totally screwed up post-invasion.
It is well known in DE that Beau Biden failed the bar 4 times.
It's official: Barack Obama is a political moron.
Hillary supporter here. I cannot wait to vote for McCain!!! It makes me giddy just to think about it! And the more Obama supporters get mad at me, the more I want to vote for McCain!
BTW I would not care if Hillary herself showed up on my door, shook my hand, and offered me a new car to vote for Obama - I still wouldn't do it!
heheheh
Hillary supporter here. I cannot wait to vote for McCain!!! It makes me giddy just to think about it! And the more Obama supporters get mad at me, the more I want to vote for McCain!
BTW I would not care if Hillary herself showed up on my door, shook my hand, and offered me a new car to vote for Obama - I still wouldn't do it!
heheheh
Hillary supporter here. I cannot wait to vote for McCain!!! It makes me giddy just to think about it! And the more Obama supporters get mad at me, the more I want to vote for McCain!
BTW I would not care if Hillary herself showed up on my door, shook my hand, and offered me a new car to vote for Obama - I still wouldn't do it!
heheheh
97 - 99:
Of course you're a Hillary supporter. Only a Hillary-supporting Democrat would be stupid enough to post the same message three times.
Well there's one thing we know about both Obama and Biden: they both think they are smarter than normal Americans.
Hillary would have been a terrible pick. Biden's not great, but Hillary was never in the running for his VP.
56, I can't comment on deal work, which, by the way, seems to have dried up after 8 years of Bush. But I am pretty sure Democrats are much better for Big Law litigators. Big Law will be a lot less bigger if Republican judges keep up their pace of throwing plaintiffs out of court shutting down litigation.
I just got back from the spa. My facial guy -- gay democrat -- says he won't vote for BO because he believes Hillary can win in 4 years and he thinks BO is a big old faker. Won't it be interesting if 97 ends up being part of a larger group who aren't afraid of 4 years of McCain in order to get 8 of Hillary.
103 -- it is not as though those Republic judge's are leaving the bench in Jan 09. Specious litigation of the type supported by pro-plaintiff ABA trial lawyers ought to get thrown out.
How can any biglaw associate be a Democrat? If you want to help the poor, great, do it on your own dime. Vote Republican, give to a charity, take a deduction. Everyone is better off than if Obama gets to stick his hand in each of our wallets.
106, what do you call bailing out Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, Bear Sterns et al. and mismanaging the economy so that your biglaw income is devalued to squat over the next few years? I call it a hand in my wallet. True financial conservative ideals I'm for, but that is not the same as Bush and his hacks running the government for the benefit of their big oil and bank buddies. OBAMA/BIDEN ALL THE WAY IN 08!
ATL: come for the assholes, stay for their mindless Fed Soc ranting.
97: As someone who voted for Nader in Florida in 2000, I feel competent to speak to this: Just ask yourself how you will feel when Michael McConnell and Edith Brown replace John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Antonin Scalia is the swing vote.
Edith Brown Clement, that is.
--109
109 is 100% correct. The court has balance now. A Barack presidency will only keep the status quo on the court. In a McCain presidency, Breyer, Souter, Kennedy, and Roberts will be the 4 most liberal members on the bench...
True dat to 107 and 109.
DUKE '12
WHATEVER IT TAKES!
there are a lot of hillary supporters who cant stand obama. For those obama supporters who cant stand hillary its no different - except obama will get the nom but i doubt he'll get more than 1/2 of hillary's votes - he's pissed off too many. And frankly, repubs ARE NOT voting for a far left radical. MCCAIN may be riding bush's conservative tail but its not hidden that real conservatives hate mccain because they know he's not a real conservative. BUt what choice do they have radical left or mccain? Most interesting presidential election in years - no foregone winners and i think its going to be a nail biter...of course either way we are still screwed - i just hope a viable candidate comes out for 2012.
Obama picked Biden over Clinton because Biden's much less likely to have him shot.
106 - because it's about more than your personal economy, stupid.
Centrist-Liberal white male, former Hillary supporter here. I understand why BO didn't pick Hillary - the personal animosity and the scary prospect of having a suddenly-chronically-angry Bill in the white house - but in terms of experience and judgment she's by far better than Biden.
Will probably still vote for Obama, but if McCain were to nominate a centrist VP and credibly move center he'd pick off a lot of us.
Centrist-Liberal white male, former Hillary supporter here. I understand why BO didn't pick Hillary - the personal animosity and the scary prospect of having a suddenly-chronically-angry Bill in the white house - but in terms of experience and judgment she's by far better than Biden.
Will probably still vote for Obama, but if McCain were to pick a centrist VP and credibly move center he'd pick off a lot of us.
114: The answer is a 40% turnout.
Evan Bayh would've been much better. Puts Indiana in play, doesn't underscore Obama's weaknesses and doesn't come with a barrage of negative on-air comments the republicans can use.
Can't wait for the VP debate where Biden has to explain if he still believes Obama is too inexperienced to be President.
116, why? What is it about in your mind?
Biden needs buy shirts that fit him and put on an undershirt. I don't want to see his saggy boobies.
Ending the insane war (and not starting any new ones), regaining a measure of respect in the international community, global warming, energy independence, social security, affordable health care...you name it. Basically all the things that McSame and his neocon buddies don't give a crap about.
Has there ever been a UPennState Philly grad running for president?
JoePa 2012!
Between Obama AND Biden, they have a whopping 0 days of real military experience. McCAIN is the REAL AMERICAN HERO. Dems are all talk, no action. Only McCAIN knows what it takes to fight The Enemy.
Last time McSame fought the enemy he got his ass shout out of the sky, then proceeded to make propaganda films for the enemy and after which he fought the enemy for five years within his cage.
Do we need more of McSame?
123=126=angry loser
123 & 126 = winner in November!
Obama/Biden 08/12
123, I do not think that BO is going to do all you say. I agree he will try to end the war in Iraq and does not have a predisposition to starting new ones. He might make some progress on international respect due to his propensity for diplomacy. But we are doomed if someone decides to test his mettle. As someone actively involved in climate change and energy, I can honestly say that BO is out of his league on energy and Biden does not help him. Both seem equally focused on SS and health care, but it will take a level of fiscal discipline and stones on behalf of every person in Congress that is very unlikely so neither will get much done. Plus, energy, SS and health will all be very expensive to fix, at least initially. I think it will be very hard for the economy to support 1 of these initiatives, let alone 3. In the meantime, I already pay six figures in taxes, and that is without all the nickle and diming like sales tax, phone and electric bill taxes, airplane taxes, etc. I really don't want to pay anymore. If I do, the first thing to go will be the charities that currently get money from me. If the government wants to take care of everyone that is fine. But then churches should stop passing baskets, employers should stop asking for United Way donations, NYC theaters should stop asking show attendees to pony up $500 after a play in order to support Broadway Cares, the Bar should stop asking for support Legal Services for the Elderly; Habitat for Humanity should stop asking me to swing a hammer. We can't have it both ways.
97 here. Posting three times ensures maximum comment visibility. So yeah.... dumb.... like a fox!!!!
97 here. Posting three times ensures maximum comment visibility. So yeah.... dumb.... like a fox!!!!
I agree with Biden. Obama is not ready to lead the nation.
"Candidate of change" - yea right. VP is an old Senator primarily responsible for our horrible economy. The Weak Dollar? Congress's fault - too much spending, lack of fiscal discipline, trade deficit, etc. Foreign Policy Credentials? - maybe if you want the US to end up a barren wasteland. I foresee the future - VP Biden or Pres. Obama tells Putin "let's meet and talk," while Russia is landing tanks on US soil. After NY is destroyed by a Russian attack: "Let's not be too hasty. I'm certain that this is just a misunderstanding. I am going to handle this diplomatically by discussing this with Putin next week. If the UN wants to take military action, it can, but I suggest diplomacy first." . . . etc. etc. etc. . . A vote for Obama is a vote for the Destruction of the US as we know it. We need a war time president, not some pansy living in a separate imaginary universe where there aren't real evil people, except for Bush. McCain won't put up with Putin's BS, Biden and Obama will. That's enough reason to vote for McCain.
129 - I agree of most of what you say, but come November there will be a dem controlled house and senate, and we will have some spare change simply by not throwing more money into the Iraq war (not enough to fix SS, but enough to provide the right incentives to put us on the path to energy independence). Although I agree we cannot fix everything at once, the important thing is to get started on fixing the problems, rather than ignoring them (and creating new ones) for the next 8 years.
125 sounds do-she.
It's fun for you liberals to sit in your lawschool classrooms and make "educated guesses" about how the world and even the US works. I'm sorry, but you are living in an imaginary universe. Congress is responsible for the problems in Iraq and our horrible economy, not Bush. Yes, CONGRESS! Get it right you brainwashed fools. Oh, and Global-Warming? You're brainwashed about that too. Look up "Ice-Age" on wikipedia. You will quickly see that the SAME data used by the Global Warming fanatics CLEARLY shows that we are due for an ice-age for the next 100,000 years. We NEED to increase global temperatures by about 8 degrees Celcius or face extinction. But you are brainwashed liberals who "heil Obama" for "Change." Russia is on the attack and we need to respond. Diplomacy is no help against the KGB when they want to destroy and control. Biden and Obama will only sit on their butts doing nothing but talking. We need a war time president, not some idiot in office who gets elected by promising 'more free stuff' to brainwashed idiots who vote for him. If Obama becomes President, you deserve what we get, but the rest of us won't: A DEPRESSION, a WAR with Russia, The end of the Dominance of the US as a world power, as socialist reforms destroy our capitalist society. Note to the wise: Increasing income taxes doesn't tax the rich. The rich already have their money and income taxes don't touch them. You only hurt people who are working hard and EARNING money by raising income taxes.
Okay- besides the amusingly hilarious and often offensive comments spewing out of Biden, can you imagine the convos btw the two of them? This blogpost is an example of the idiotic exchanges btw attorneys: http://justmarvy.blogspot.com/2008/08/apparently-anything-can-be-porn.html
Wish I could be a fly on the wall for those convos!
134, Today the Senate and House are full of dems that hold a majority but still can't agree among themselves. They can't get a bill onto the Senate floor for debate, let alone pass anything meaningful. Polisi and Reid are very ineffective and BO won't fix that problem. The gridlock is not caused by president veto; it is because even the dems are not united on how to fix the problems you articulate. Case in point -- energy. Bingaman and Boxer do not see eye to eye on cap and trade. And this is just one example. Plus, Clinton had 2 years of all dems and couldn't pass health care reform. So, because politicians are generally unable to keep any campaign promises, I vote national security first and taxes second.
136: It's much better to have theories about how lowering taxes will increase revenues and lower the deficit. That worked so well for Reagan and the Bushes.
But it will work when John McCain does it, I just know it!
Who's in a law school classroom? It's still summer time!
137 -- i don't get it. That convo is lame.
138 - because the party that brought you 9/11 keeps you safe, and the party that brought on the largest deficit ever will never have to raise taxes.
Brilliant!
142, what an irresponsible comment. The Republicans did not cause 9/11. To suggest that is really terrible and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Obama will solve global warming. Also, Biden has personally promised to release all enemy combatants held at Guantanamo, but only after a stern and very lengthy lecture that is actually just a compilation of things FDR told Eleanor in bed.
And 133, don't forget that Obama will go to the UN Security Council first when Russia invades, despite the fact that Russia has a block on any actual UN Security Council action. Putting aside that any "UN peacekeeping force" invariably consists of 10,000 US troops, six Aussies, eleven Brits who couldn't come up with a good excuse, and two Frenchmen who will insist on being in charge.
Just saw a BO ad on NBC. Part 5 of his plan to "ebuild America": a $1,000 tax cut for working family, which according to BO's website does not include people like me and my wife. We each work more or less 11 hours a day, hoping to pay off our student loans, pay rent, save college money for our daughter, and buy a place of our own some day.... Apparently, we are not working hard enough and have to subside OB's constituency. Under OB's "plan," we could be facing up to a 10% tax increase.... Yes, that 10% tax increase applies to many of you on this forum!!!
142, if you want to take those kinds of shots, then let's go back to the fact that Barack Obama is a muslim terrorist schooled at a madrassa and wants the presidency so he can turn our country over to his brother Osama. BE A GROWN UP.
142, you need to read a book, really any one will do, about the lead-up to 9/11. You'll find that Clinton too busy sticking cigars in his intern's vadge to actually find, catch or kill Bin Laden after the first WTC bombing or the USS Cole bombing, both of which, incidentally, happened on his watch.
I look forward to our new foreign policy where we "hope" that things will "change" and people will stop trying to "blow us up."
A question: will BO be the nominee if he were white? The answer is no way. The truth is that many whites support him not because he is qualified, but because voting for BO make us feel better about ourselves. (short of marrying a black person, this is the closest thing for most of us to show how reformed we are when it comes to race)
The problem is that BO does not want to a president, and, just like Bush, just wants to PLAY a president. Remember that Berlin speech? coming from a first-term U.S. senator? what hubris!
148 -- I am a die hard R, but I can admit that he is unusually inspiring. Sometimes I have to slap myself back into reality. So there is a chance he could be the nominee, although I agree with you that his race is what really differentiates him. From a race relations perspective, I think his candidacy provides a ready response to people who say that African Americans can't get ahead because white Americans oppress them. So I think there is something healthy about his being in the race. The voters can decide whether he is really ready to take the job (hopefully with a vote that says you need more seasoning).
joe biden is no cadwaladersean.
142's argument: Republicans are bad because they are not fiscally conservative enough, so vote for fiscal liberals!
The dems are so far in left field it's no great wonder why the Republicans look squishy. If Bill Clinton tried to get the nomination in 2008 he'd be assailed as a bible thumping, gay bashing, pro-big business, pro-rich, anti-poor, simple-minded conservative.
Hey all you a-holes worried about your six-figure salaries, just think for a second what the Bush Administration has done for your wealth. Seven and a half years of the most profligate government spending in the history of civilization has bankrupted this country and debased the currency (how much are those dollars in your wallet worth in London? in Canada, for Christ's sake?). And what do you think that all does to long-term interest rates? Oh, up, you say? And as interest rates crept up, then what happened to all those nice people who could barely afford their variable-rate loans? Foreclosures? You don't say! I can't imagine that has had any effect on any law firms... *cough* Cadwalader *cough* stealth layoffs
But yes, making people pay taxes on income above $150k would spell disaster for the economy, whereas hemorrhaging taxpayers' hard-earned dollars to pay KRB to do shit work in Iraq, mortgaging this country to the Chinese, and mismanaging everything from the hunt for Osama bin Laden to preventing 'Putie' from going all Stalin on us--PURE GENIUS!
152 - go back to your 1L year and learn about our government. CONGRESS is responsible for spending. Last I checked, they were democrats. Obama? We'll have 500% inflation and depression era economics. I'd take Bush's* excessive "spending" (note, congress passes the bill, Bush Signs it. But he has to sign something, or else the government shuts down. He signed too much, but it is Congress's fault that we are in this economy. Suprise that only Congressmen are running for President!) over Obama's depression and barren Wasteland US anyday.
to 152: "Putie" from going all Stalin on us? You need a history lesson. How about we send you to the front lines in the comming war with Russia? He is KGB. Go live in a Former USSR territory and see if people share your view. Idiot, stop posting.
152 will be sent to the Russian Front, along with both Colonel Klink and Sergeant Schultz!
- General Burkhalter
Biden spent 3 years as a wet-behind-the-ears attorney (apparently without learning anything about cross-examination) before being elected to the Senate. He's run for President twice without attracting significant support. His 1988 campaign was a debacle, ending amidst allegations of plagiarism and lying about his record at TTT Syracuse University Law School. He told a questioner in New Hampshire that he went to law school on a full academic scholarship - the only one in his class to have a full academic scholarship, graduated in the top half of his class and won a prize in an international moot court competition, and that in college he was the outstanding student in the political science department' and 'graduated with three degrees from college. Biden later was forced to admit that none of that was true and he had graudated 76th in a class of 85 at Syracuse. Biden = TTT.
Not sure what to think about Biden? No problem. The media will tell you how to think! Straight from the NYTimes Website:
Man in the News
A Senate Stalwart Who Bounced Back
By PATRICK HEALY and MICHAEL LUO
After enduring a period of tumult in 1987, when he dropped a bid for president, Joseph R. Biden Jr. settled down into a role as a statesman.
/quote
He's a statesman, ladies and gentlemen. How can you not vote for him????
Exactly how many times have the words 'statesman' and 'Joe' or 'Joseph' Biden been used in the same paragraph since 1990? According to Lexus, just eight times, and none of them stating as fact that the great Senator-President-Jesus is indeed a 'statesman'. I guess it's never too late for the Times to start rewriting history.
152 is right. McCain is a abortiion.
FIRST to point out that Delaware is the FIRST state!
Anyone who has an income above the level of gutter trash should never vote for a Democrat, unless you just hate your own money and want to see it wasted buying clothes for poor people who will then trade those clothes for drugs on the screets.
Obama had a great introduction for The Next President of the United States, Joe Biden.
--Vote for the REAL Maverick-- John McCAIN.
TIm Kaine is selling Biden as experienced on energy and the economy. I think the record does not support this. I have never seen Biden take a lead on energy or climate change and don't recall his sponsoring much related to the economy. Does anyone know what Biden's credentials are on energy or the economy?
56, you are right.
BO/JB ticket virtually assures us an economic policy of screwing people with money.
--Signed, a John McCain supporter
美利堅合眾國是一個不斷惡化的廁所在下降。
I know someone who worked with Joe Biden for those brief couple of years after he graduated at the bottom of his class at Syracuse.
I heard he had the legal skills you'd expect from someone who graduated from the bottom of his class at Syracuse.
I just don't get the notion that R's are better for your pocketbook that D's. John McCain's economic policies are only good for you if you have John McCain's expected life span. If you're planning to live through the '20s, or you care about "the children" (who, after all, we're supposed to give up all of our liberties to protect), you might want to consider the long term fiscal (and other) implications of his "less tax, more war" agenda.
Morons.
166, pork barrel spending by big D is what is killing us.
Obama will mismanage almost everything GWB mismanaged, and he will do it in his own little way.
Our standing abroad will continue to plummet as arrogance is replaced with appeasement and a fire sale of US interests overseas.
Multinationals will continue to flee our economy to escape Obama's broad new mandate for more taxes piled on top of current spending. (This is not to say we don't need new tax revenue... but Obamacrats will do it wrong).
Obama's new taxes will hurt the upwardly mobile, to the benefit of the poor (working or not, citizen or not) and the morbidly rich. We need to keep the morbidly rich flush with cash, for the sake of our overall economic health, but incentivizing continued poverty while raising the bar for escaping poverty is not the way to go. Leave the bar where it is, and let being poor continue to be tough. Life is tough. Human casualties pave the way for the success of any nation. To think otherwise is facile.
In order to shore up his Latino base for a second term, Obama will pander to "immigration activists" by supporting amnesty and a continuation of lax immigration law enforcement. He will support a continuation of the "family reunification" focus when awarding visas, ensuring that most of the labor we import is poor and unskilled, when what we really need is drastically increased competition in math and science from highly educated foreign nationals. Only the continued loss of coveted university spots to overseas students will disabuse us of the illusion that a liberal arts education will make people competitive in the 21st century.
Obama will support government initiatives that force citizen taxpayers to continue to subsidize the influx of non-citizens into our country and their continued ability to live outside the law while suppressing average wages. He will do nothing to attack the "obvious" heart of the matter, dishonest employers, because he can and will do absolutely nothing to challenge the power of labor unions, who occasionally display a territorial mentality. He will emphatically do nothing whatsoever to attack the root cause of economic instability in Central and South America: the US-led drug war.
Meanwhile he will support universal health care and regular increases to the minimum wage in order to ensure that even the lowliest teenager-centric job category can substitute for an actual career path and allow people to "raise" a "family". The idea that serious preparation is required to make a life for oneself will be finally and officially relegated to the dustbin, along with the notion that laziness is rewarded with hardship and failure.
So; jobs will vanish and our proletariat will surge. For a while, America will continue to be a juicy market for products and services from overseas. A constantly increasing trade deficit will suck the life out of our ailiing currency.
All of this is probably going to happen anyway. Will McCain do anything to stop it? I don't know. But Obama will grease the wheels. Or put another way, he didn't build the coffin, but he will nail it shut.
The one unequivocally good thing we can count on is that abortion rights will be safe for another decade or so. But at what price?
167 -- Ted Stevens (D?-AK) I think not.
That's an argument about the provincialism of Congresss in general, not Dems in particular.
If that's your best argument for being an R, you don't have one.
169, I am a selfish voter. My wallet is all that matters to me.
It doesn't matter. UVA still shits all over Widener (and GULC if you really want to think about it).
I agree with the earlier commenters: Going to UVA/Harvard/etc law school is WAY more prestigous than spending three decades in the Senate. Not even close.
Losers.
172, your posts are so negative. What is the problem?
Number 10 would do well to remember the affairs that George HW Bush had, as well as Newt Gingrich and the host of homosexual Republican Senators that have been found with the hand in the cookie jar. Please, get over yourself, and the sad little notion that the GOP is somehow better than anyone else in terms of cheating on spouses. They are just more sanctimonious about it, you blow hard.
And Democrats are also clean, articulate, and bright!
10 here. I did not say that R's are better than anyone else and I definitely was not being sanctimonious. I said that this D VP pick has past repulation problems that the R's will seize on and seize they already have. So I am looking pretty prescient already. Read the post before you call someone a blow hard.
10 again. I should add that I think all men cheat, regardless of religion, politics, etc because I have yet to meet one that can keep his pecker to himself and that includes the straigh guy's occassional BJ or HJ by whover is willing to provide the service -- man or woman.
Hillary fans - how do you feel that Obama didn't even bother to vet your candidate? NOBAMA. Vote for The Original Maverick. Vote for John McCain.
@177: Women, on the other hand, are paragons of chastity, fidelity, and virtue?
179, where did I say that?
I don't think that my girl Hillary cheated on Bill even though he was unfaithful to her.
179, you must be a terrible lawyer because you sure cannot read the plain language in a post.
George Bush Jr.:
Doesn't Interrupt his Olympic vacation when a staunch US ally is invaded in a Moscow power play, and lets the FRENCH take the lead!!!
Invades the wrong country (Iraq) after 9/11, thinking they had WMD and supported Al Qaida.
Then blows the identity of Spy in a hissy fit when her husband told Bush the truth.
Listens to the Yes-Men command after removing Shinseki and the other Generals who told him the truth.
Destroyed FEMA by appointing political contractor hacks to lead it.
Anyone who thinks Republicans are gods gift to national security merely are Republicans are dumber than an affirmative action legacy drop-out at a T4.
Anyone who thinks Republicans are gods gift to national security merely are Republicans are dumber than an affirmative action legacy drop-out at a T4.
Huh?
183, what is your beef about deferring to the French. I thought a key point of the D platform is that the U.S. should not be the lead agressor in every skirmish. Other countries should be encouraged and allowed to respond to international abuses of power. Isn't that the idea?
Are you kidding me? 172 -- It does not get any more prestigious than UVA. --
172 -- You are a righteous fail.
183, I think it is worth pointing out that we have not had an attack on American soil since 9/11 so something seems to be working even though we know Osama hates us just as much. And I am very grateful every time I go the LGA, JFK or Penn Station and make it to my destination. Don't know about you, but I am still scared.
Obama supporters know in their hearts that only John McCain knows what we need to do to defend America and defeat The Enemy. The Country needs McCain.
mccain and cadwaladersean in '08
sent out the notice at 3 p.m.? Is it in response to Hillary's 3 am call ad? It sounds petty.
If it wasn't petty, it was mean to all the people asleep who had their phones on. But the press seems to have forgiven him already.
186 -- You know not what you speak of. GULC is the school for DC insiders.
Here's my question: How does a member of Congress for 36 years without family money or any true private sector experience own a compound? I saw pics of Biden's home yesterday via aerial shot - - - it was Southfork. How did he get this spread legitimately?
187 -- You are a pussy. I hope you enjoy living with your mother.
193, he has a confirmed pension for the rest of his life and has no problem taking out a 100 years loan? also DE is the armpit of the east coast, land is cheaper there than NJ.
194, I live with my family in my Murray Hill townhouse.
I live in a cabin in Montana with running water and internet access three days a week.
You guys are right! We don't need Obama! We need 4 more years of George W. Bush!! Go McCain :)
187- how about the anthrax letters? Oh, I forgot, that wasn't a terrorist attack as it was perpetrated by a Republican...
187 - Your logic is like the French, who outlawed the landing of UFOs in vineyards, and then congratulated themselves on the effectiveness of the law. (See label of Le Cigare Volant, from Boony Doon Vineyards.) Cause and effect is apparently an advanced concept.
The Dems are long on wienieness (joined lockstep in voting for war and took impeachment "off the table") and the Reps are way long on hypocrisy (they drive the economy into the toilet and then say, "Don't vote for Obama, he'll ruin the economy," rant about states rights but want a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, call for smaller government but create the Dept. of Homeland Security.)
Obama's substantive positions aren't much different than Hillary's, and McCain's are only slightly moderated from Bush's. They are both very mainstream candidates. ("Change" and "Maverick" are branding, not substance.) As lawyers and law students, you should vote logically, based on the issues and policies that matter most to you, not based on preconceptions or fear.
200 -- thanks for the speech. What matters to me is to keep my taxes low. Nothing else. You are clearly an associate. I
Bonny Doon makes a good Tannat blend (not as good as some of the Tannats from Madiran, though).
- Obama 08
168 = required reading.
168, give us a clue of who you are or where we can read more. You really made sense and I sweat that you really were seeing the future.
Where can we read more of your predictions?
201 - 200 here, and I'm not an associate. I just tend to vote on the basis of policies I believe are sound, rather than self-interest. Self-interest is a reasonable approach to take, though.
I don't have a problem with social conservatives voting Republican, or enviros voting Democrat or Green, etc., I just don't like it when people vote for a party based on something that the party claims ownership of, but has consistently failed to deliver.
198 is right! Give me four more years of the same!
McCain/Romney 2008!
Why did Bush, as retared as he is, beat both Gore and Kerry?
Why would Mac beat OB in the election?
Here is your one-word answer: authenticity!!! OB might be better at reading teleprop than anyone else in the world, but the more I know about the more turned off I am. The guy is a total poser!
Yes, he talks the pretty talk, and walks the pretty walk. But can he lead? Juding from his state senate record (63% attendance rate) and U.S. Senate record (high absence rate, no legislative achievement to speak of), the answer is a resounding "no."
The country is headed in the right direction! We have not become a global TTT in only 8 years! Keep it going McCain! Woot!
i dont understand how anyone could vote for mccain. im just in high school, i checked this site cuz i want to be a lawyer one day, and im shocked at how such educated people could even consider not voting for obama.
i mean come on people, you had 7 years of college, right, how can your eyes still be closed?
ill be proud to vote for obama when i am first allowed to vote. if you had to go back and vote against hitler, you would, right? come on people, vote for good, not evil!
I love our global status! The US of A is not TTT! Republican administration has done us well! Go McCain in 2008!
I am 208 and I post poor flame because I love money! The USA is doing well! George W. Bush is a fine president! I would vote for him again if I had the chance! We are a TTT in decline, but I willfully ignore that! Vote McCain in 2008!!!
208, past your bed time and you cleary aren't ready to play with the big boys.
I LOVE THE US OF A! WE NEED 4 MORE YEARS OF BUSH, BUT I'LL SETTLE FOR THE NEXT BEST THING!!! 4 YEARS OF JOHN MCCAIN!! WE NOT BE A TTT IN DECLINE WID HIM IN CHARGE!
Obama supporters - don't be fooled by the acting. He is elistist and driven by his own personal motivations.
Hillary supporters - first Florida gets tossed out, and know its back?? Why didn't Obama even offer the VP position to the second best, if not the best, candidate?
Vote for McCain - Vote for The Original Maverick.
holla fo Johnny Mac! keep us headed in the right direction like g dubskis is!
213 is correct! Keep the trajectory going from the Bush administration! The Republicans know how to create a TTT in decline!
what we need is more of the same!!!!! we need 4 more years of the same policies!!!!! in fact i would elect bush again if the constitutional language of this united states of america allowed me the honor of doing so!!!!!!!!! JOHN MCCAIN! MORE OF THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
211 - nah not past my bed time yet im in arizona so not that late yet.
210 - you are an imposter ur not me and your entire post makes no sense.
i can tell theres lots of jokers here trying to be sarcastic (210 thats you!) but this is serious. this is the most important election ever and we have a gift given to us. like the people who voted for jfk must have felt, a new generation of americans voting for a change from the old ways.
hope people that is what obama represents. we will look back at him as the man who changed us to the new ways that we will live in. we will tell our children and grandchildren about how we got to vote for obama and how we helped end global warming and stopped invading other countries and gave everyone health care. these things are simple people and obama knows them!!
214 to 216 are DNC trolls and probably the same person. You may have intended sarcasm, but nevertheless you are right. The Liberals are destroying this country and killing our troops. Now is not the time for someone with 1 year of Senate experience, even if he is eloquent. Give me a rough talking Maverick anyday.
guys - we can end global warming! we can end the war in iraq! we can give everyone health care! yes we can! yes we can!
218 - 216 here (not 214). I certainly intended sarcasm, but if you think I'm right, we definitely have irreconcilable differences. We are absolutely a country in decline under Republican leadership. Look at where we were pre-Bush or even in the months just following 9/11. The Reps have f*cked up BEYONF BELIEF.
We both McCain is not a rough talking maverick by any stretch of the imagination. He's now a talking head for the Bush party line (flip-floppers anyone?) He was a joke candidate in 2000 and is now your only hope....
Look, I appreciate that you are probably in BigLaw and love your salary. I am too, and know that Bush's tax cut will get rolled back under Obama. I don't care. I hate seeing our country as a global laughing stock. Your party has brought as astray, and we need a Democratic administration to raise our global standing.
thank you 200 for something reasonably intelligent.
a vote against obama is a vote for racism. mccain supporters are all racists.
ok 208 here again, i know a lot of people are talking about taxes, but obama is only going to raise them on the rich, and most of them want their taxes higher anyway to help pay for our debt.
i think its like only people who make more than
$5 million get a tax increase under obama, and i know lawyers dont make that much! unless this is a board of partners! in which case, hey, you making good money, its worth it to end global warming right?
anyway, obviously we are all ready for change, our world is ready for it, and we are lucky to have obama running right now. no disrespect agianst hillary, of course, but the country wants obama. it should be a landslide, i just keep getting confused finding all of these mccain supporters online, it must just be a few trolls here and there, cuz theres no way that many people dont support obama
yes we can!
208 - I feel sorry for you. I read my essays from highschool a few months ago, and in retrospect, I appeared COMPLETELY BRAINWASHED. 80% of the modern educational scheme is about indoctrination (read brainwashing). The reason why you want to vote for Obama is because you have been brainwashed into thinking he is some amazing leader, which he really isn't, and stands for something "change," which really doesn't make much sense. The truth of the matter is that Obama is a typical liberal democrat, who will do exactly what the DNC wants him to do, as shown by his choice in Biden. He is not the annointed one, not the messiah, not some piviotal new leader who will bring about a new age, but is merely a young, inexperienced democrat who has good speech writers and is good at reading teleprompters. In comparison, McCain IS a giant. Just look to their ACCOMPLISHMENTS - what they actually HAVE DONE, not what they claim "they will do." Actions speak louder than words. Just compare their records and there is no choice.
As to the "4 more years" crowd:
I WILL TAKE 4 MORE YEARS OF:
1. No Territorial Attacks upon the United States by Terrorists, and
2. A President willing to stand up to Russia, so as to avoid World War III.
With Obama:
1. All terrorists in Guantanamo will be let go + massive budget cuts for Homeland Security = attack on the US within his first 4 years in office, and
2. Obama not standing up to Russia, deferring to the (Russian vetoable) UN Security Counsel, allowing the KGB to retake prior USSR territories, and build up to WWIII. (The main problem will be when Obama decides to violate NATO by refusing to retaliate against Russia when they Attack Poland)
OK, for all you IDIOTS who keep posting about "GLOBAL WARMING" Look at this FRIGGEN CHART:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vostok-ice-core-petit.png
The Vostok Ice Core samples are Used by MOST Global Warming Proponents, but they don't bother to look at the prior 500k year trend. For more information why we need to increase global temperatures by 8 Degrees, see "Ice Age" on Wikipedia.org.
224: Re: Brainwashing...
The terrorism/9.11.01 fear-mongering has run it's course. Obama/Biden will not be weak on national defense. REFUSAL TO ACT UNILATERALLY =/= WEAK. REFUSAL TO ACT UNILATERALLY = PRUDENT.
We are a TTT in decline under this Republican thinking, sir. There is no serious debate about that.
A once great country finds itself in utter decline. Why?
Obama is so afraid of losing to John Mccain he had to choose a two time loser like Joe Biden. So……….if some smart person comes along and puts a hole in obama then we're stuck with Biden……….OMG. I don't want Biden as my president. Well, of course, I don't want obama either. Hard to believe the dnc could choose bam-bam over Hillary Clinton. --comment from ccn.com. A bit wrong to say an assassination would be smart?
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I hereby stop reading this stupid blog for good. I just realized that dumb-ass law students have taken over. A bunch of morons that have their self-esteem tied to the law schools they went to. Let me say it again: you guys are a bunch of idiots with your "TTT" crap and bull about "UVA craps all over Weidener"; losers need a lollipop in the form of USNews rankings. Get a life.
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McCain '08!!!!!!
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226+228 - Wow you Republicans are truly disgusting. I am an Independent thinking of voting McCain, but that is beyond the pale. I don't think I can support your candidate when you post stuff like that.
fear-mongering + brainwashing . . . why does "Global Warming" come to mind.
237,
A couple of things: 1) I posted comment 228, and in no way was it meant to suggest that the comment was correct; I was shocked cnn posted the comment even though they moderate the blog and that is all I wanted to express; 2) I, like yourself, am an independent that is considering McCain; while I agree with you regarding some of the comments made here by republican supporters, I don't think the stupidity of certain republicans takes away from a candidate that just happens to have the same party affiliation.
I like mccain oven chips the best
I went to Widener, and then I went to GULC. In all honesty, I didn't see much of a difference--except that the curve was tougher at Widener, making all the A's I got at GULC seem underearned.
Biden was a great professor, and he's been a great Senator, too. I'm excited for the Obama/Biden ticket!
Ok, a few extraneous remarks:
1. Call Widener what you will, but if you do a Martindale search on in house counsel in a lot of the DE incorporated, F-500 companies that many of you (or your bosses) are doing work for / are trying to land as clients, you will see that many of them graduated from Widener. All the TTT's in the world do not make up for the fact that you own a pair of kneepads with the Widener logo on them.
2. I believe Lat's question was: "Legal background aside, are you happy with Joe Biden as Obama's VP nominee?" Biden graduated from Syracuse Law some 30 years ago. What does his alma mater have to do with his pick for VP? Where did G.W. Bush go to law school??
3. # 234, wow you are pathetic. I bet you haven't gotten laid since Bush senior's administration.
Biden went to Syracuse and seems to have come out in a good position. How many Harvard grads are VP or Presidential candidates these days? NOT MANY.
No - we don't need for more years of the same.
We need someone who has only ridden a bicycle to get behind the wheel of Mac Truck USA. Hey, he doesn't have a map, but that's ok, he will look soooo good driving!
244 - Stop cherry picking what matters to you. I'm guessing inexperience didn't bother you when you voted Bush in 2000. We are a TTT in decline and electing McCain will only compound the problem (read: will change absolutely nothing).
Say HELLO to the next President of the United States = Barack Obama.
McCain = Fin.
65 = smartest comment on here.
234 = MAJOR, MAJOR, TOOL.
237 - It might seem crass to think about what would happen if someone puts a hole in Obama, but I think it is very legitimate to ask whether the VP pick would be prepared to lead if tragedy - in any form - struck. I plan to vote for McCain, but I would not be happy if he went with an outside the box VP pick like former EBAY chair Meg Whitman, or former HP head Carly Fiorina. They may be able to draw in women and add to his economic platform, but they are would certainly not be ready to lead the country if McCain died.
Also, I'm so sick of saying that a McCain presidency would be four more years of Bush. They're different people for g-d's sake, with very different personalities, policy platforms, and leadership styles. Just because doesn't want to raise taxes and doesn't want to usher in defeat in Iraq doesn't mean that they're the same man.
242 - "All the TTT's in the world do not make up for the fact that you own a pair of kneepads with the Widener logo on them."
Priceless.
Whoever takes the helm will inevitably fuck up the country; both choices suck. Count your blessings it's not Romney or Huckabee on the Republican ticket or we'd truly have nothing useful to do until November. But between these two candidates, the question is only: Who will fuck the country up less?
Right now I'm leaning slightly toward McCain. If I were convinced that McCain will just be GWB Term 3 then I'd vote for Obama out of fear alone. But I don't think anyone can top the performance we've seen.
It's useful to note that Obama almost certainly WILL be president. He's got most of the chips in place. Now might not be the right time; but he'll keep running, probably take a more moderate tone, and eventually win.
For now, at least both candidates hate politicians.
Who cares how BigLaw votes? Most of you will vote in NY, DC, IL or CA where Obama will win anyways. Stop kidding yourself with the taxation issue. It wasn't meant to appeal to you, it was meant to appeal to all the poor and working class Americans too stupid to realize that voting Republican doesn't help them.
I used to like McCain. But he appears to have sold his soul in order to be the republican nominee. What's more, the guy usually seems clueless. These aren't just minor gaffes here and there. This is downright Phil Collins style Land of Confusion.
I’m a proud Hillary Clinton Democrat. She had the experience and judgment to be President. Now, in a first for me, I’m supporting a Republican, John McCain. I respect his Maverick and independent streak, and now he’s the one with the experience and judgment. A lot of Democrats will vote McCain. It’s okay, really!
Hillary Clinton, experience and judgment? Good God, what are you talking about? Her campaign was a disaster of unpaid bills, press leaks, staff shakeups, and a meandering message constant only in its sense of entitlement--one moment she's answering the phones at 3 AM, the next she's breaking down crying because it's all so hard! The Hillary campaign's arrogance and hubris shone through the fact that they never planned any strategy beyond Super Tuesday--sort of like, um, oh I don't know, never planning for the aftermath of the Iraq invasion and then pretending like it was all so hard to predict what would happen. If you're stupid enough to put yourself $12 million in debt just running a campaign, you don't deserve to be President.
And what experience did Hillary ever have? Sure, she was *married* to someone with experience, but I'm sorry, 7 years in the Senate--to which you were elected because of your husband--does NOT qualify you to demean the experience of someone who has been in elective office longer than you, and who made it there on the strength of his own intellect and hard work (read: EiC HLR, lecturer at U of C, community organization, IL legislature, US Senate). In any case, it's not worth griping about any more because it's over and done with. Hillary lost, Obama won.
Look, the basic choice for lawyers is this: do you want someone (McCain) who will preserve the *nominal* tax cuts of the Bush administration, but continue the proud Republican tradition of spending tax money like a drunken sailor--not to mention continue to "win" in Iraq by confusing Sunnis with Shia and talk about the "Iraq Pakistan border"--or do you want someone who may make associates pay taxes on all their income, but who at least has some plan to pay for his spending programs and thereby will preserve the meager buying power of those shrinking dollars against the phantom inflationary tax that has already redistributed so much wealth back to the government in the past 7 years.
254: Hillary Clinton was a housewife with a law degree who used her husband's influence and power to grab a sentate seat from a state which she moved to just months before. She was(is) a do nothing senator with little leadership experience.
Thank you for demonstrating the caliber of her supporters. Not only did you support an unqualified candidate, but now you are going to support someone who is the exact opposite of her instead of supporting somone who does not differ that much in political philosophy. (this coming from a Republican here).
HTH.
Hillary was not a housewife. She was a practicing attorney from YLS, and enjoyed an unofficial cabinet role for 8 years, all of which more than qualified her to be the Senator from NYS. It is unfair that she is being so mistreated by the Obama campaign and the DNC. If Florida counted, she, and not Obama would have been the nominee. Its my right who to vote for and I am thankful we have a great, authentic leader in John McCain.
Unofficial cabinet role? Did an unofficial Senate advise and confirm her appointment? How was she at managing an unofficial cabinet bureaucracy?
Hillary's only real responsibilities in the Clinton Administration were (a) health care reform and (b) sliming the reputations of all the women Bill slept with. She was a tawdry, incompetent disaster at both.
But yes, 257, you are right--this is a free country, and you are free to vote according to no rhyme or reason other than the fact that the big black man mistreated your fantasyland cabinet secretary heroine.
257:
Graduated YLS: 1973
Moved to Arkansas: 1974
Married Bill: 1975
Made partner at a small firm: 1979
First Lady of Arkansas: 1979-1981, 1983 to 1993
First Lady of U.S.: 1993-2001
(See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton)
What exactly makes this presidential material?
Hilary was essentially a housewife for most of her career. Her husband just happened to be in public service. She is about as qualified to be president as your mother.
HTH.
Who??
This is not a free country.
LOL - Hilary was not a "housewife." It's just that she has as much experience being the president as McCain and Obama have: zero! Experience being a senator, or a community organizer, or the president's wife, does not give you experience BEING THE PRESIDENT.
Which is why the McCain/Hilary attack on Obama's experience is b.s. (but unfortunately people are buying it).
McCain's record was very impressive until he backtracked on basically everything that was impressive about it. Now he's a flip-flopping supporter of most things Bush. I don't blame him for his ambition to become President, but to change positions in order to pander to the "conservative base" like that is not what I'm looking for in a president. Obama may not be perfect, but he's a significantly better option than McCain.
Why not just admit it, America will not vote for Obama based on race. Tjis election was decided when he got the nomination. This is like Ford in Tennessee, does well in the polls, but in that voting booth, well I think Avenue Q got it right.
Go on and convince yourselves McCain is a good choice, list taxes high on your agenda. As a neutral European I think it is priceless the lengths you will go to avoid mentioning that if Obama was a white guy this election wouldn't even be close, as he would easily win. As it is a guy who can't raise his arms over his head to celebrate winning, who can't use the internet, who cheated on and left his first wife who stood by him while he was a POW, who flip flops over issues to secure nomination - from Jerry Farburninhell to tax cuts, and who wants to be in Iraq for 100 years, will win.
A different commentator noted that you rich lawyers in New York will be saved by the rednecks. Doesn't it make you feel great to be an American???
255 - Well put.. 254 - looks like you are voting on personality rather than policy. Obama is a whole lot like Clinton on substance (which I am sure will end up disappointing many of his supporters if he gets elected).
Why not just admit it, America will not vote for Obama based on race. Tjis election was decided when he got the nomination. This is like Ford in Tennessee, does well in the polls, but in that voting booth, well I think Avenue Q got it right.
Go on and convince yourselves McCain is a good choice, list taxes high on your agenda. As a neutral European I think it is priceless the lengths you will go to avoid mentioning that if Obama was a white guy this election wouldn't even be close, as he would easily win. As it is a guy who can't raise his arms over his head to celebrate winning, who can't use the internet, who cheated on and left his first wife who stood by him while he was a POW, who flip flops over issues to secure nomination - from Jerry Farburninhell to tax cuts, and who wants to be in Iraq for 100 years, will win.
A different commentator noted that you rich lawyers in New York will be saved by the rednecks. Doesn't it make you feel great to be an American???
McCain = a noun, a verb, POW
POW, btw, sounds great on paper, but:
(1) McCain came home, saw his wife after she got into a terrible accident, and then cheated on her with Cindy (who he later married for her money);
(2) It simply doesn't make you any more qualified to be commander-in-chief; and
(3) McCain spoke out against the the New GI Bill because it would give too much of an incentive for soldiers who had been deployed in Iraq - for what he considered too short a time - to come home. I see. So it's an all-volunteer army so long as these brave young men and woman don't have an option that many of us had, namely, the financial ability to go to college.
I am also a Hillary Democrat voting for McCain. And I live in a swing state, so my vote is at least twice as important as any Obama supporting democrat in NY or CA. :) :)
268, why are you voting for McCain?
ick, BHO should've picked HRC.
Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Enough said.
254, good job stealing your line right out of the McCain ad. If I remember correctly that is what the Hillary delegate that said she would vote for McCain had to say in the most recent add.
264, let's admit it... If Obama where a white guy there would be no way in Hell he would have even gotten the nomination. He ran a crap campaign and the only reason people voted for him in the primary was because of the color of his skin.
272, let's admit it. If not for racism (particularly in places like West Virginia and Kentucky), Obama would have won the nomination by a landslide. He ran a superior campaign with a superior strategy, that was able to overcome a blundering and ineffective Clinton campaign that had a large head start and incredible advantages. Obama was the superior candidate and it was not close.
273, are you daft? Don't be 272. Obama was not "the superior candidate and it was not close." He had an upstart campaign by an inexperienced nothing and ran it well. Simply because you're a latte-sipping limousine liberal who blames everything bad that happens to black people on racism and you have an autographed picutre of Ralph Nader on your shelf doesn't mean you're qualified to pick apart the voting rationale of the American Democratic primary voters.
Stalin Rules!!!!
With the selection of 66 year old veteran senator Joe Biden as his running mate, Barack Obama has abandoned all that remained of the original premise of his candidacy: Youth, change, and hope, and has replaced same with the cynical politics of whatever it takes to win.
BTW, most of the readers here are too young to recall, but Biden’s 1987 presidential campaign was derailed after he admitted fabricating material parts of his resume (including his claim that he graduated in the top half of his LS class and was on full academic scholarship, and that he held three degrees. His campaign was also damaged after a LS plagiarism incident surfaced.
(Among other retractions, Biden later admitted that he graduated 76th in a LS class of 85.)
The lie, recorded by C-SPAN, resulted from a testy exchange in response to a question about his law school record from a man identified only as ''Frank.'' Mr. Biden looked at his questioner and said: ''I think I have a much higher I.Q. than you do.''
He then went on to say that he ''went to law school on a full academic scholarship - the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship,'' Mr. Biden said. He also said that he ''ended up in the top half'' of his class and won a prize in an international moot court competition. In college, Mr. Biden said in the appearance, he was ''the outstanding student in the political science department'' and ''graduated with three degrees from college.'' Comments on Assertions
Link:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE4D91F3CF931A1575AC0A961948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
Picking Biden was handing the Republicans a huge gift.
They've already got the goods on this guy--plagarism, arrogance, liar (check his credentials), partisan without compromise (see his work blocking judges), and definitely provable as a loopy lefty (again, see the judiciary committee).
And Obama did abandon his whole "change" mantra.
And finally, how does this help? What state does Biden give him? Delaware?????
Here's hoping McCain picks smarter.
Refresh my memory, did Joe Biden win a single state in the primary election?
Deleware is a long term Dem state that Obama is certain to win in any event.
I can't wait for biden to screw up in the vp debates. McCain needs to pick someone who can infuriate Biden quietly--someone who can just throw out a few facts and watch biden lie and plagarize until he drops obama 10 points.
274, how did Obama win? He started down by about 20 points in the polls. He won by sheer luck? He beat the Clinton machine because he's black? Give me a break. The Clintons started the primary process hugely popular among African Americans. Let's give Obama a little credit. He won a primary campaign that no one thought he should win. On the other hand, Hillary lost a primary campaign no one thought she would lose. Let's not minimize the importance of those facts.
NObama really screwed the democratic party. This was clearly a desparate act of self-sabotage, and I believe that unconsiously, he doesn't want his shrieking wife to be First Lady. His choice understandably infuriates the Clinton faithful (50% of all Democrats). Furthermore, by choosing 66 y/o Biden, he eliminates any advantage he may have had by being youthful and energetic. Obama has lost all confidence in himself and any interest in the job. Vote for the Real American Hero, the Original Maverick --John McCain.
280, that's hysterical. The youthful are going to turn their backs on Obama because he picked Biden? Come on. Democrats view Clinton positively, but independents and Republicans can't stand her. If Obama chose Clinton as his VP, he would have made it nearly impossible to win. And John McCain WAS a "maverick" until he abandoned those principles in order to win the Republican nomination. Now he's just a pandering, Bush-backing flip-flopper.
Biden pick is good. The overweight, mole-faced, under-educated Hillary supporters can stay on the wallflower side of the gym baby. We need you like a fish needs deoderant.
lots of Republican posturing in this thread. Biden was a good choice.
Just a quick response to the assertion that racism hurts OB's prospect. That is total BS: for every vote against OB because he is black, there are 10 votes for him just because he is black. Voting for OB is perfect way for whites to purge their racial guilt. It is the COOL thing to do.
To all OB supporters: Let's stop whining about race while you know full well that race is a net positive for OB's campaign.
Dear 282:
Don't mind if I do [vote for McCain] thank you very much.
--Hillary supporter
@284: Do yourself a favor and quit drinking the Kool-Aid would you? Democrats have everything going for them, whether its the economy, an unpopular war, a very unpopular Republican President, etc., etc. For these and other reasons, Dems are and will continue to win state and federal seats throughout the country. And yet, the presidential race is so close. To think this phenomenon is not a product of race is ridiculous. To think Obama's race is a "net positive," is downright retarded. You seriously need to get out of your BigLaw office and visit middle American before you opine with such stupidity.
284: I can make up bogus numbers too! For example, did you know that for every one of John McCain's houses, he becomes 10 percent more out of touch with American voters and their concerns! Think about it!
286 -- The same could have been said (and was said) in 2004 re: Bush vs. Kerry. A similar sentiment was out there in 2000 -- Gore, in happy times with a booming economy, was a sure thing over the bumbling Bush.
The problem is that the Demoratic party has been failing to think critically about its presidential nominees and has brushed off all valid criticism of those nominees. The media has been complicit. The result, as we saw with Kerry and as we are sort of seeing with Obama, is that this leaves the candidate untested and susceptible.
I actually admire what Obama has been able to do so far. But I have reservations about his effectiveness as President, and most reasonable people should. I may well vote for him in the end. But by choosing to pretend those weaknesses don't exist, Obama, his party, and the media are setting him up for a loss. He's going to have to show some passion, maturity and real substantive knowledge if he is going to win over undecided voters.