Anatomy Of A Dissolution: Why Buy The Cow When You Can Get The Milk For Free?
If any Heller Ehrman attorneys were hoping that a major firm would sweep in and hire a whole bunch of Hellerites, the Dissolution Committee is warning you not to hold your breath. The Recorder reports:
On Tuesday, Peter Benvenutti, the chairman of the dissolution committee now controlling the firm, confirmed whispers that Baker & McKenzie and Winston & Strawn, both one-time merger candidates, had withdrawn proposals to pick up large groups of lawyers and their expensive real estate. While Benvenutti would not say whether deals on this scale are being discussed with any other firms, he did say there’s interest in taking over certain of the firm’s leases, and “we expect to have clarity in a day or two.”
At this point, why would Baker or Winston Strawn take on expensive lawyers when they can just sit back and cherry pick the superstars they want? We haven’t heard any story of a Heller rainmaker saying “If I come, these 30 people are coming with me.”
More bad news after the jump.
If this is happening to associates who are already there, formerly “incoming” Heller associates are truly on their own. Displaced “4Ls” have started their own support blog.
Meanwhile, current Heller employees just learned that their 401(k) plans have been frozen:
As you know, the shareholders voted to dissolve the firm on September 26, 2008. Wind down operations continue under the Dissolution Committee with the employment of most employees ending on or before November 28. The firm’s dissolution on September 26 caused the Heller Ehrman LLP 401(k) Retirement Savings and Profit Sharing Plan to terminate.In order to assure an orderly termination process and a fair and equitable allocation of costs associated with the plan termination, the Dissolution Committee has decided to temporarily freeze the Plan. During this temporary freeze period, you can continue to access your plan account and change investments through Vanguard. However, effective immediately, no new contributions or loans will be permitted and no withdrawals or distributions requests will be processed. If you have an outstanding loan, your loan payments will continue to be deducted from your paycheck and applied to the loan balance, while payrolls are processed. More details on loan repayments will be available shortly.
Once the Dissolution Committee is confident that all costs of plan administration paid, the freeze will end. You will then need to decide what to do with your plan savings. Additional instructions will be sent to you about your distribution options at the appropriate time.
But the calls for violent revolution have dissipated. Forcing Heller into involuntary bankruptcy isn’t necessarily the best option:
A bankruptcy attorney not involved in the Heller situation observed that it’s in the interest of Heller’s banks — Bank of America and Citibank — not to force the firm to file for bankruptcy, because that would make it more difficult to collect receivables. Michael Cooper, a Wendel, Rosen, Black & Dean bankruptcy attorney, said that despite the dissolution committee’s efforts, Heller could be forced into bankruptcy if at least three creditors who are owed more than $13,475 file an involuntary bankruptcy petition. The firm’s creditors include banks, landlords and vendors as well as employees who haven’t been paid in full. Some employees have said they plan to file wage claims for unpaid vacation time.
Heller associates and staff have likely been through the Denial and Anger stages already. Perhaps being abandoned by both Baker and Winston (again) will be the end of the Bargaining stage.
Next up: Depression.
No Big Deals for Heller Ehrman’s People, Offices [Law.com]
Official News on 401k Plan Freeze [Heller Highwater]
Firms Withdraw Offers to Absorb Large Groups of Heller Lawyers [WSJ Law Blog]




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i have my first meeting with career services on november 3rd, i'm so nervous!!!
-nervous T-10 1L
Heller Drone for president!
(and first...)
old news.
i hope they starve. biglaw, finally getting what white men deserve...screwed.
You haven't heard the Madison story.
MysTTTal
#5, what's the Madison story?
4: you display class and empathy for those around you. Also, you display ignorance that would astound even your mother, if you could figure out who she is.
here's some breaking (and sad) news)... http://wvbr.com:9010/index.php?page=news
-nervous T-10 1L
Cherry-picking is all that's left at this stage. That game plan worked well for Baker in the Coudert dissolution -- they picked up about half the NY lawyers and one hell of a NY lease.
- Coudertfugee
The Hellerites in California are better off than those in other cities. California still seems relatively busy compared to other parts of the country (like NYC) given the state of litigation there.
I guess people are about to figure out whether the partner they work for really likes their work or just tolerates it.
Heller is but the first of many firms to die. What you are seeing happen to them will happen to several others over the next 6 months. Aside from Thelen, which is gasping its last now, anybody care to guess which firm is the next to fail?
12: We know it won't be Cadwalader...they'd fire everyone before they had to dissolve.
9: isn't that kind of par for the course at Cornell?
12: the answer will be whichever firms are riding large quantities of debt. Debt = death to firms when markets fall.
As a former incoming summer in CA, I have found that work is relatively slow here in most places. Few firms are hiring. Those that are have been swamped with resumes.
Some large groups of Heller attorneys have been picked up... the Venture Law Group in the Silicon Valley office has been picked up by Cooley, and the IP Lit group has been picked up by Covington.
Some large groups of Heller attorneys have been picked up... the Venture Law Group in the Silicon Valley office has been picked up by Cooley, and the IP Lit group has been picked up by Covington.
and the securities group is going to Hogan. and DC energy to Pillsbury.
Are any of these groups talking to incomings about bringing them in at the new firms?
it seems the partners are all finding soft landings and the associates are not. that is truly troubling.
19: some associates are coming along. some are not. incoming associates are screwed.
21: There's not a single incoming associate getting picked up at the new firm?
Madison to Perkins Coie
22, I know of one first year associate (asked to start in September rather than waiting until January) who was brought to a new firm with the rest of the group. But I'm betting stories like those are rare. No one has an investment in the new associates yet, so there's no reason to use some of their bargaining power to bring those associates along.
What's up with the urgent email about entering and releasing all October time today? Meeting with "the banks"?
I think that 'meeting with the banks' is probably continuous at this stage. Unfortunately, the potential for a downward spiral exists: turmoil and uncertainty can hurt collections on billings, any threat to collections on billings causes the banks to squeeze tighter, which causes more turmoil and uncertainty - - - -
24: What was special about that incoming? How did that work out?
Probably an effort to maximize the funds released by the banks for this Friday.
I think that person worked a lot with a particular sub-group as a summer associate and really impressed people (the person had a pre-law school background that made them particularly well-suited to the sub-group). That sub-group was in desperate need of additional manpower, the incoming associate had already expressed a desire to be part of the sub-group, so they had the individual start at the originally scheduled time and then the person came with when the rest of the sub-group moved.
I've heard that some of the Heller incoming associates have been set up with "special" interviews at other Bigs thanks to the partners they worked for this past summer so hopefully they'll find somewhere else to work that's comparable. For the rest of them, they better start searching NALP and Outlines.com for jobs elsewhere!
I wish I had a special interview. None of the partners I worked with did squat for me, expcet maybe pass on a resume to recruiting. I managed to get a job on my own, but I started looking after they pushed back the start date. And I think there was a fair amount of luck too. It's a really bad situation out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoxjbSwgmIQ
or
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/crass/do+they+owe+us+a+living_20192686.html
31: I hear you. I didn't wait after our start dates got pushed back--I started looking right away. Thinking about it now, even that was probably too late. I've just landed an offer, but not with any help from the Heller partners I worked with.
Your article states, "We haven't heard any story of a Heller rainmaker saying 'If I come, these 30 people are coming with me.'" As 5 observed, you ought to study the Madison office -- one of Heller's most successful offices that has been generating millions of dollars in profits (after partner comp) for the rest of the firm for many years now (including this year). Madison was known to many as a "crown jewel" within the firm. 23, it's not a done deal that Madison is going to Perkins Coie although staff, associates, and partners all think very highly of that firm and are hopeful. The Madison partners have unanimously agreed and informed all staff and associates that they will not join any firm that is unwilling to provide a permanent, stable, decent-paying job and benefits for every single person from the most senior partner to the receptionist -- a total of 15 lawyers and 10 staff. Word is that the partners have rejected several lucrative offers in order to keep this promise and keep faith with all of their colleagues. People like John Skilton and David Harth prove that it is possible to be a big-time "rainmaker" and still be an honorable and loyal person. Firms like Perkins Coie prove that it is possible to be a shrewd and acquisitive firm without being a predatory cherry-picker. As it has for the past 8 years, the Madison office seems to be setting the bar for the rest of the Firm-in-Dissolution.
34, you didn't mention that the "lifeboat" as the folks in Madison call it includes all incoming associates and others who have received offers. Unbelievably honorable people there.
To the incoming first years with new jobs - any in SF? If so, offers at comparable big firms?
Ok, I'm moving to Madison!
Perkins Coie... that would be interesting. They don't seem to have a conflict of interest with GE as, according to http://www.evilesq.com Heller does. But they are representing Heller in Pratzman v. Heller so unless the Madison team is going to withdraw from representing SONO Perkins probably won't be the choice.
I'm happy for the associates and staff in Madison. Lot easier to do that when the office only has 15 attorneys, though.
READ THE WALL STREET JOURNAL TOMORROW.
Big news, folks...
Re the situation in Madison, the Seattle office attempted to do something similar, keep the office together. But their potential merge partners had as a condition the inclusion of some SF attorneys, and those attorneys demanded more money than was offered. Deal scuttled. Thanks again San Francisco! Hugs and kisses!
Can you believe the VLG cowboys got jobs at Cooley. Cooley is going to be sorry the same way Heller was. VLG ran their own firm into the ground and then Heller allowed them to come into their firm and assist in running their firm into the ground. Giving them all high ranking positions and look what happened.
Where to go -- not wherever sizable numbers of VLG people went.
Hey 39 --- It's not just the Wisconsin people that the Madison shareholders are trying to save. I heard they are trying to include several D.C. office associates and staff as well who have been abandoned by the departing D.C. shareholders. Harth and Skilton spent a lot of time out here in Washington. Don't know how many D.C. people are included in the Madison group. Go Cheeseheads.
Heller antitrust lawyers are going to Orrick. Heller securities lawyers are going to Sidley in S.F. and new Hogan & Hartson office in Palo Alto (of these, the Sidley group is very weak).
Who are Harth and Skilton? Why did Heller have a Madison office? Was it really as good as #34 says it was?
Is this Cheesehead night on ATL? What's with the Cow Milk headlines?
I heard our Madison office could also get merged into Faegre. Negotiations forthcoming. Wish our other offices would merge instead of this picking off partners without associates.
Heller had a Madison office because Skilton was located there, and he has very valuable patent-holder clients, esp. in the biotech area. Don't know anything about what it has been like to be on the inside there.
How many associates are getting left behind in each office? Apparently none in Madison.
49: I always heard Madison was great. They were always the firm leaders in pro bono. I heard that one year over 20% of their recorded time was on pro bono, and that SF yelled at them to lighten up. They eased off pro bono a little but not much. Harth just won another big prisoner abuse case that the right wing blogs are going nuts over. Skilton and Harth are patent litigators and their office also does a lot of antitrust and commercial work for Midwestern companies like WARF, SC Johnson and Kohler. Don't know what the numbers were but they seemed to keep a lot of people in other offices busy. Some of my friends in DC and California worked on Madison cases and loved them. Wish they had room for more of us.
To 41 ------------- Who were the SF shareholders who sank the Seattle office? Isn't that office about 30 years old?
Since Heller Madison seems to be the topic de jure, that office looks like it might have even more work considering that its small insurance coverage unit (2 attys from looking at the profiles) does lots of D&O work--a field that is about to explode as investors start suing banks, etc. over the US financial crisis.
I heard Madison is going to Schiff Hardin.
All right, let's throw it open for discussion--should Madison go with Perkins Coie or Schiff Hardin?
Amen #10. My understanding is that it's still an "us and them" situation between CB and Baker folks even after 3 years.
this site is pretty lame. All this talk about beinf FIRST, etc., and meanwhile, a major event happened with Heller (see Wall Street Journal), the story is 9 hours old and ATL stll has this old link up. Crap.
this site is pretty lame. All this talk about beinf FIRST, etc., and meanwhile, a major event happened with Heller (see Wall Street Journal), the story is 9 hours old and ATL stll has this old link up. Crap.
WSJ link?
WSJ link?
Poor 57/58 . . .
major event???
From WSJ this morning:
Last month, Heller Ehrman LLP, a San Francisco-based firm with about 600 lawyers, voted to close its doors, in part because of the economic downturn. In recent weeks, many firms have come forward to pick up Heller's pieces. On Thursday, Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP of San Francisco plans to announce it is hiring at least 27 Heller partners. Orrick's profits per partner may be down this year for the first time in decades, partly because of costs associated with hiring new partners, but the firm remains in growth mode, says Chairman Ralph Baxter. "We have a long-term growth strategy, and we try to act on that and not to overdose on short-term economic results," says Mr. Baxter, who last month engineered the acquisition of a small German law firm.
57: instead of fucking whining about it, why don't you just tell everyone. oh wait, that's too easy. okay, I'll do it:
orrick picked up the antitrust group. 27 partners including levin, rosenfeld and larry p.
Heller-Madison - more likely Schiff over Perkins b/c Heller represents generic pharma cases and a good deal of work would be conflicted out in a move to Perkins b/c of thier branded side work but who knows.
also, the reason Heller has an office there is that it is considered the rocket docket for bio-tech IP infringement cases.
http://legalpad.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/10/heller-office-o.html
Any word about where other Seattle folks are going (besides Cooley or Orrick now)? What about the energy group?
Anyone know which firm(s) Larrabee and the other management brainiacs are at now?
Madison office becomes Madison office of Perkins Coie. Confirmed.
Levin is going to Orrick. Don't know anything about Larrabee.