Hey! ATL has female bloggers and an EIC with a gender-neutral name
Law.com has an article this week lamenting the absence of females in the legal blogosphere. C.C. Holland writes:
The question is not a new one, but it’s gaining traction in the blogosphere lately as the old concern spawns new debate. And it seems to be true that the majority of high-profile legal blogs, whether in academia or the practice of law, are helmed by men.Sites such as Above the Law (David Lat), How Appealing (Howard J. Bashman) and Balkinization (Jack M. Balkin) are each authored or edited by one man. The China Law Blog is written by Dan Harris and Steve Dickinson of Harris & Moure. The Volokh Conspiracy, another popular law blog, list 18 contributors, none of whom are female. The woman blogger whose name comes up most frequently in the legal space is law professor Ann Althouse, but her blog isn’t primarily about legal issues.
We object! For one thing, Above The Law is “authored or edited” by a new man, editor in chief since August Elie Mystal. (David Lat is ATL’s founder and still near and dear to our hearts, as a regular contributor and managing editor of our parent company Breaking Media.)
Additionally, the gender-ambiguous C.C. neglects to note that the ATL ladies outnumber the men these days, as some may have noted last week in our self-congratulatory post. ATL’s XX team consists of Laurie Lin, Hope Winters, Marin and yours truly.
More on the female law blogger question, and bikini photos, after the jump.
Simple Justice also finds fault with the article, naming other female bloggers besides Althouse: “Anne Reed, Niki Black, Anne Skove, Carolyn Elefant, Susan Cartier Liebel, Blonde Justice.”
We disagree with the premise of the article, but here are C.C.’s theories for the “apparent dearth of strong female voices in the legal blogging area:”
Theory #1: Women law bloggers are out there, you just don’t see them. Theory #2: Women don’t have the same time to blog as men. Theory #3: Women are more prone to professional or personal attack, so they avoid blogging.
To theory #1, we respond, “HELLO! Look closer!”
Theory #2 hinges on women being too busy with childcare responsibilities to blog. We’re skeptical of this as there would seem to be an abundance of single childless female lawyers. Much to their dismay.
Theory #3 is the most interesting of the three. Female bloggers do seem to get a different sort of attention (e.g., Kash gets many more requests for bikini photos in the comments than do Elie and Lat.) The article notes cases of female bloggers who have faced threats and persistent comment trolls, suggesting that anonymity allows men to vent their secret and intense misogyny. Dude, not cool.
Whether male or female, bloggers require a thick skin, a sense of humor, some degree of insight, and a laptop addiction. Bikini photos not required.
Where Are All the Female Law Bloggers? [Law.com]
Women Blawg Just Fine [Simple Justice]
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Comments
First to say - Kash is mortal!
Beauty and the beast
epic failure on clickthrough for bikini photos.
Kash=cute
Elie=Shrek
based on the above picture, i would totally skull fuck kash. mmmm....mmmm.
as for elie, the picture makes it absolutely clear that he is all head, no shaft.
But Elie also faces threats and persistent comment trolls, so I don't think it is just a misogyny thing.
Is Elie wearing a bathrobe?
Please no more photos of Elie!
I still can't believe you go around admitting that Hope Winters is a part of your team.
Can we get a photo of Kash wearing a bathrobe?
Yes, 7, I think so.
Lat's kind of a girl.
bikini photos?
Beauty and the beast
Can any tell me, or even guess intellegently at, the average sr. associate/ jr. partner comp for a Rocky Mountain/Pacific NW AmLaw 200 firm, in a smaller branch office (think Boise or Spokane)?
Hope Winters is NOT a part of the team. RIght?
elie still sucks.
Kash is really pretty. Are we positive she went to lawschool and practiced?
Elie bikini pics, plz
Has ATL ever had any straight male editors? I think credit where credit is due should apply if the men on ATL's staff are both gay. If that's not diversity, what is?
15: Assuming that you're talking about the bottom of AmLaw 200, and in one of those branch offices, I'd semi-intelligently guess 100-115k. People might laugh at this, but most lawyers aren't on the 160k scale, and the scale is tremendously lower in the third-, fourth-, etc.-tier cities.
18 = NOOB or TROLL!
Diarrhea of the mouth/keyboard doesn't count as blogging - Winters ≠ part of the team
Elie needs to lay off the Cheetos and Twinkies.
I thought Hope Winters was a dude.
22 = UGLY. Sorry bro, hit the gym.
Where are the bikini photos? This post reminds me of Elie's posts... it shows promise but when you're done reading you feel like an idiot for being suckered in and wasting your time.
Kash deserved to be overlooked in the article because she's just a "community organizer."
28 - No, you're confusing her with Elie. Kash is a governor, and was a mayor, but the state and city aren't big enough to matter (but Delaware is, of course).
Forget about Kash! At least Elie went to law school (even if it was just Penn state--Philly).
As Palin pointed out during the debate, Alaska is a HUGE state....
First to say Kash is NOT that cute - only average - and you losers need to get out of the office more.
Kash to gorgeousness!
Elie to gorgeness!!!
Ahhhhh!! Elie's face is NSFW.
Kash = the pride of Pine View School in Osprey, FL.
<3, a fellow Python
So now we know why the original introduction pic was so close up, what's the deal the the f-ing bathrobe?
Where are the bikini pics of Kash?!
Gentlemen at the legal preparatory academy with which I was once affiliated were frequently in the habit of transcribing certain thoughts on legal matters, both sublime and profane, and indeed sometimes both simultaneously, into writing, and taking this writing and posting it, through electronic means, such that these thoughts became available to the public at large, and were accordingly held up for praise and ridicule, mostly the latter, by the trolletariat. It was commonly believed that the dissemination of the legal thoughts of these gentlemen was made for the purpose of basking in the reflected glow of the majestic presence of their ownselves, as transmitted by the adulation of the receiving public, which sometimes numbered as many as three. This selfsame behavior was, regrettably, not similarly exhibitited by those persons of the female persuasion who also were affiliated with the legal preparatory academy with which Legal Fraternity Lothario was, in his ownself, also affiliated. A multiplicity of rationales and justifications were offered for this absence, none of which were given credence in a modern and just society. The gender imbalance was, on the whole, regarded as newsworthy nor noteworthy.
So now we know why the original introduction pic was so close up, what's the deal the the f-ing bathrobe?
The correct spelling is Elie MysTTTal.
Thank god your female blogger roster definitively no longer includes SEN, she supports their Theory #3 way too well (as does Hope Winters to a lesser extent)
Kash looks like she may be kinda chubby?
-JT
What about the Legal Tease over at SHJ? She's a law blogger and a lady (I assume/ hope): http://www.sweethotjustice.com/
We need more like her.
never knew that Kash was such a hottie
38,
Just because it is long doesn't mean it is used well. Fail.
ok, look. while kash is not unattractive (far from it), she is NOT hot.
you yankees wouldn't know "hot" if it grabbed ahold of your pecker and bit it off.
Correct spelling is Elie MysTTTal.
42: KASH is not chubby at all. In fact, she's a big-time runner and is very slender. However, for a slender girl with a runner's build, she's got some nice boobage going on.
42: KASH is not chubby at all. In fact, she's a big-time runner and is very slender. However, for a slender girl with a runner's build, she's got some nice boobage going on.
FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
42 - what's wrong with chubby chicks like kash? they usually are sluttier than skinny chicks.
btw, is elie just earkle (sic?) after a massive two year booze and doughnut binge?
How do you pronounce "Elie"?
25: Thanks. That's lower than I hoped, but not a big surprise. I guess the average partner makes about 250K, then?
Elie is a fat dork who spent his whole life thinking about stupid stuff, like why murderes should get off because of racist cops, so the only job he could get is writing unfunny posts on a legal blog.
His only responsbility is to accurately report important new stories without any grammatical errors, and he fails at even doing that.
Kash is hardly chubby
http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/graff-15.jpg
46 needs to graduate from middle school and realize that nobody cares if the girls are "hotter" where he grew up.
Jabba and the Princess?
_
Who else could be in those two pics?
Kash, you rock, and thanks for the bikini tease. Totally appropriate.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing "Elie" rhymes with belly and jelly and smelly. It just has to.
To all the posters who think Kash is hot...
You are now part of the TTT group!
Thanks.
57---46 here. i was just trying to get people to realize the difference between what's hot, and what's merely cute. that's all.
now, go back to making your torts outline.
61 - not everybody lives in the playboy mansion, stop trying to act cool, you're really pathetic.
- 57
32/42/46 that's blasphemy. Take that talk somewhere else. Kash is ATL's favorite person and she's easily a 9.5-10.
Hey Legal Fraternity Lothario, too bad you ruined the whole joke by saying:
"The gender imbalance was, on the whole, regarded as newsworthy nor noteworthy."
instead of "The gender imbalance was, on the whole, regarded as NEITHER newsworthy nor noteworthy."
Loser.
I second 59. His parents probably meant to spell it "Ellie," but neglected to proof the paperwork when he was born. Maybe the inability to edit for even the most glaring of errors runs in his family. That, and "big bones."
56, where do you come up with these prime images?
They need to be indexed and made searchable from ATL.
Kash is hot. Intelligent + funny + attractive = hot.
54 - I doubt it's that high except for the all-stars/executive committe. I'm comparing this to my very intimate knowledge of a similarly ranked firm in what I perceive to be a similar market, though in a different part of the country. The leverage just isn't there to support higher partner draws (there are more partners than associates). The firm I know has a few over 200k, but these are the all-stars. The wouldn't-last-a-day-in-a-bigger-market types are around 125k, but everyone can expect to get there if they stick around long enough (and it gives them a pretty comfortable life in an inexpensive city). I was shocked when I learned these numbers; I expected higher. Associates start around 75k, if this helps at all.
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Hope Winters to EIC!!!
66
Google image search is your friend.
Wow, the comments on this site are supremely classy. Way to go. ATL => CACs (Classy A** Commenters).
ELIE - ARE YOU IN A FUCKING ROBE IN THAT PICTURE?
OH MY GOODNESS!
Elie kinda looks like Sir Mixalot.
Kash...not bad. Not bad.
Frat. Loth. > all other commenters, notwithstanding a couple typos
67: Wrongo. Hot = Hot. Intelligent + Funny + Attractive = Intelligent + Funny + Attractive.
Elie - do you have vertical blinds in your home/apartment?
That is soooooo lame.
74 - you stick with the "Hot" girls; I'll stick with the Funny + Attractive + Intelligent ones. Check in with me in 20 years.
- not 67
Kash, what's your type? ATL wants to know.
That gorgeous picture of Kash brought a ray of sunshine into my otherwise hopeless, dreary existence. Plz post nudes.
YOU 77, clearly.
So, how do we look?
Chubby!
Sincerely yours,
Tommy Boy
76: If you ever bothered sticking your penis in a hot girl, you'd learn that many of them are also intelligent and funny.
I'd give it to Kash with the intensity of the Sun.
Since when is "Elie" gender-neutral? Just because one man is named "Elie" (ATL's editor) does not make a female name suddenly "gender-neutral." That's like saying "Samantha" is suddenly gender-neutral because I gave the name to my male cat.
73/TTTroll - Wrong. His post would have been good had he not screwed it up. But he screwed it up. So it was one giant FAIL.
Legal Fraternity Lothario acknowledges the failure of his ownself in this particular effort.
81 - you're an idiot.
my good friend Craig McDermott said it best...
"The only girls with good personalities who are smart or maybe funny or halfway intelligent or talented, though god knows what the fuck that means, are ugly chicks."
Wow - there are some real drooling dogs on this site. Kash is certainly very attractive and an incredible writer, however, you dogs need to get a life. If I were Kash, I would get your IP addresses and get restraining orders against all of you pigs. Go jack it off in the men's room and get back to work.
87: WTF? I jack off in the ladies' room.
87 - Kash posted the pic knowing what the comments would look like. She even primed the pump with the bikini pics reference in the post (which also proves that she likely reads the comments and is aware of the spirit of some of them). Kash is an asset to the blog, and seems to be a good sport about the constant hitting on her.
- Self-Appointed President, Kash Fan Club
Absolutely concur that bikini photos are not required.
Take the bikini off.
37 your avatar scares me
She looks pretty good, although one must acknowledge the "Is she hot or law school/lawyer hot?" standard.
The entire nation of lawyers hates MysTTTal.
Elie, if you ever lose your job, good luck finding work at a firm. Everyone knows you don't pay attention to detail.
86 - Good call
Patrick Bateman: [in bed] Don't touch the watch
The entire nation of lawyers hates MysTTTal.
Elie, if you ever lose your job, good luck finding work at a firm. Everyone knows you don't pay attention to detail.
87 - I think commenters are reacting intensely to Kash's good looks because her picture was placed next to MysTTTal's. Being next to him causes anyone's attractiveness to skyrocket by comparison.
The entire nation of lawyers hates MysTTTal.
Elie, if you ever lose your job, good luck finding work at a firm. Everyone knows you don't pay attention to detail.
I'm new to this site, but it looks like that dude Elie is wearing a ninja costume.
No. Bathrobe.
kash looks kinda chubby...we've never seen a body shot, just her face close up.
stop drooling over her.
89, we really do need a club. Maybe an ATL group on the "community" page?
Remember how Lat used MS Paint black rectangles to fill in his hairline in a picture?
Could we fill Elie's in down to his chin?
102- I think you means chins.
100 - go back to xoxo.
Wow people. Wow.
@88...i just spit water all over my desk.
Elie's personal to accompany above picture on "obesedrekwriter.com"
"my name is Elie...I like slaying bitches with my ricockulously stupid writing. i love eating...i once ate a whole 3d grade class at latin prep school. when it comes to lotion, bitch better put it in the basket or she's getting the Elie "hose" again (not to be mistaken with my ole' dog from freacksofcock.com). finally, when it comes to skillz with the ladies, my preferred approach is putting my penis on their shoulder so they can put it in their mouth when they get home. it ain't no fun if the fat home(ies) can't have some, yeah, yeah."
Kash may not be "chubby,"
but she sure gives me one!
You can tell Elie is a fat annoying douchebag just from his fat annoying picture
106, you are the CLEAR winner. I am literally in tears!
-not 106
Guys, I think Elie's sick and doing this while he recovers. Don't make fun of him.