Morning Docket 10.03.08
* Senator Biden and Governor Palin had their cage match last night in St. Louis. If you played a drinking game around the word "maverick," you may have a hangover today. The New York Times lets you relive the magic and review the transcript. [New York Times]
* Sandra Day O'Connor addresses the economic crisis, lamenting the number of judges who don't know squat about complex business issues. [Washington Briefs]
* DOJ lawyers withheld evidence from the defense in the corruption trial of Senator Ted Stevens. Judge Emmet Sullivan no longer has confidence in "the government's ability to meet its obligations to ensure a fair trial," but the show will go on anyway. [Washington Post]
* O.J. Simpson case goes to the jury. [Los Angeles Times]
* Nebraska safe-haven law was created for Dumpster babies, but it's netting a bunch of Dumpster teenagers. [New York Times]
* "Lounge entertainer." Is that what they're calling it these days? [On Point News]
(32) Comments
firsty!
Secondy!
Palin was horrible last night.
Why no mention of the fact that O'Connor hosts that event each year at GULC?
Ifill: Let's try to avoid nuance, Senator. Do you support gay marriage?
Biden: No.
Left-Wing ATL Readership: OMGWTFLGBT?!
lolvoter: you can has shut up teh faze now? i vote teh cuda but i den not eateded it
i'm a 1L and i need a job!!!
-nervous T-10 1L
I'm just a prom night dumpster baby.... My story isn't long, but it's awfully sad.. bah-dah-dah-dum!
That's pretty funny, 4. I can play too:
Ifill: Let's discuss your religious beliefs with respect to science, Governor. Do you believe that God created dinosaurs 10,000 years ago?
Palin: [lying] No.
"Right-Wing ATL Readership": She's a witch!! BURN HER!!
lolvoter: Ahh what the fuck, go ahead and burn her.
Seriously, TTTroll is the most annoying poster in this history of ATL: consistently bitter, hackneyed and excessively impressed with his own abilities.
TTTroll:
First rule of humor: It's rooted in truth.
That's why @4 is funny (Biden actually said it last night) and your retort fails (Palin didn't).
Please summary the debate for me. I was working last night. Thx.
summarize
"The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that."
my joke = rooted in truth
Palin = new earth creationist
majority of Palin voters = creationists
American secondary education = TTT
http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=slideshow&type=figure&doi=10.1371/journal.pbio.0060124&id=98647&ct=1
you = my biTTTch
"The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that."
10 and 11: I already gave you the lolvoter comment, I'm not doing one of the summaries too. It would be forced and probably not very funny, and unlike certain ATL editors, I'm not going to post just for the sake of posting.
-4, Guy that does the summary comments, and also created the Elie=Fail grading system.
Palin is a super duper Bama along with #5 on the this post....
If you had "main street, not wall street" you'd be dead this morning.
I GULCed a little bit in my mouth when Palin winked at me.
16: TTTroll TTTide TTTroll
18: I GULCed in my pants each time Palin turned a completely unrelated question into energy.
Random question, but I'm hoping for a little help. I'm a coa clerk thinking about applying for an ausa position to start fall '09. Any idea when I should apply? Any advice would be appreciated.
Energy, duntchaknoaw? *WINK* I can has presidency?
Question in reference to dumpster babies: So as a man, if I want to sever my paternal relationship (aka get an abortion), I need to kidnap the child and abandon it in a hospital or police station, correct?
When the eighth grade drama teacher prepping Palin for the debate kept saying "Energy! Energy! Energy!" I think he meant for her to keep HER energy up.
No love for the meditating lawyers story in the National Law Journal today? Omm shanti shanti to 190K!
If you played a drinking game to the word "also," you'd still be trashed this morning. Palin said it more than anything.
21, have you considered killing yourself instead of becoming an AUSA? At least you would have a shot at going to heaven that way.
Props to Biden for realizing that Palin couldn't go off script. He had complete freedom to tear McCain to shreds while she kept on puking her hockeymom, darn right, sure as heck, run-on paragraphs.
Also enjoyed how she messed up the name of the commanding general in Afghanistan. More props to Biden for not correcting her on that point. He obviously recognized her error but wisely chose not to risk coming across as condescending or lecturing.
Another item of note: after the debate, Obama claimed that Biden won a clear and convincing victory, while McCain said that Palin proved she is capable of serving as VP. See the difference? Biden was there to win, and she was there to restore her tattered image. The McCain campaign never even contemplated the notion that she could win the debate on the issues.
Final verdict: Palin exceeds the lowest expectations ever, but Biden wins the debate.
I'm glad someone posted Biden's quote about the Constitution: "Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch."
Um.... Last time I checked, Article I defined the legislature, and Article II defined the executive.
I hope this was an honest mistake. Otherwise, Joe's con law students at Widener Law School ought to start getting nervous!
Article I, Section 3, Clause 4 defines the role of the VP in the Senate (i.e. President of the Senate, but can only vote to break a tie)...
BIDEN: The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he's part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous.
PALIN: Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president's agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him [Cheney] that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we'll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also.
OMFG!
Article I, Section 3, Clause 4 defines the role of the VP in the Senate (i.e. President of the Senate, but can only vote to break a tie)...
BIDEN: The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he's part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous.
PALIN: Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president's agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him [Cheney] that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we'll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also.
OMFG!
Palin, apparently unaware of the separation of powers doctrine:
Of course, we know what a vice president does. And that's not only to preside over the Senate and will take that position very seriously also. I'm thankful the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president if that vice president so chose to exert it in working with the Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president's policies and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths are.