Yale Law School meets Sex and the City
We had a link to this story in yesterday's Non-Sequiturs, but since it touches on the salacious and Yale Law School, we've decided to revisit it.
New York Magazine has a "Sex Diaries" blog, where average New Yorkers chronicle all things sex over the course of a week. For the most part, not as interesting as you think it would be. Except for this one: The Single College Girl Obsessed With a Yale Law Student. (Honestly, it's only interesting to us because ATL is a salacious legal blog.)
A 20-year-old NYU student writes about her summer encounter with a Yale Law summer associate. We've done our best to cut out the boring stuff:
7:30 p.m.: Best friend gets a call from an acquaintance inviting us to a party at her older brother's apartment. He goes to Yale Law School -- we'll be there.
11:05 p.m.: Party is okay. Talk to some fellow Ivy Leaguers who spurt intellectual justifications as to why they're using their education to make exorbitant amounts of money for themselves rather than bettering society.
11:37 p.m.: Introduced to acquaintance's older brother. He mentions something about opera, and I feign interest because he's pretty cute. He then proceeds to quiz me about some esoteric English composer in order to make me sound and feel like a total idiot. Determine that he probably wants in my pants.
Is that how most YLS men court the not-yet-of-drinking-age ladies?
12:32 p.m.: Sick of staring at the phone waiting for him to call. It's just that he's so perfect. No one's perfect, but he comes pretty close: intelligent, Jewish, tall, cute, and working as a summer associate at a serious law firm where he's guaranteed a job when he graduates. I've hooked up with some pretty good catches in the past, but this guy seems to have the whole package.
Would it disappoint her if she knew that a high percentage of YLS kids choose clerkships and government jobs over corporate law? More after the jump.
She's no Carrie Bradshaw, but we are moderately amused by her take on Ivy League mating behavior:
10:45 p.m.: While waiting for my Internet date, I get a call from Yale Law boy! We make plans to hang out Thursday after he's done at the firm. In true lawyer fashion, he completely dominates the conversation and doesn't allow much out of me besides a few giggles and a "sounds good."
We disagree with her assessment of "true lawyer fashion." That sounds more to us like "true Yale male behavior."
6:30 p.m.: Yale Law boy calls -- he's caught up at the firm and doesn't know when he'll be done. I try to play it cool. He promises to call if there's any chance of him getting out. Wonder if he's lying.
9:15 p.m.: Phone rings. He apologizes and suggests that I come over.
10:45 p.m.: After playing Jewish geography and boring me to death about corporate law and litigation, he suggests we head up to his bedroom to "watch TV." He can barely find the remote before we're on top of each other....
12:10 a.m.: He puts me in a cab but doesn't offer to pay. This bothers me. Am also bothered by the fact that he was more interested in talking about himself than getting to know me. It was really more of a hookup than a date, come to think of it. Oh well, I like his sarcasm and his skin touching mine -- I can get past the arrogance.
Yale Law School. The ultimate aphrodisiac.
The Single College Girl Obsessed With a Yale Law Student [New York Magazine via Gawker]
(112) Comments
FIRST FOR THE FIRST TIME
Ew
FIRST FOR THE FIRST TIME
Stupid internet so slow... could've been first
The chicks from that show were dogs.
The chicks from that show were dogs.
two pasty yankees getting it on. i just threw up a little in my mouth.
FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yay!
"Party is okay. Talk to some fellow Ivy Leaguers who spurt intellectual justifications as to why they're using their education to make exorbitant amounts of money for themselves rather than bettering society."
Ugh. I hate 20-year olds.
"salacious and Yale Law School?" Elie is rubbing off on you Kash. Tsk tsk.
Now I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger...
That bit is so depressing.
"Fellow Ivy Leaguers"? NYU isn't ivy league. This girl is probably going to "better society" by torturing a coffee house of 20-something yuppees with her god awful spoken word poetry. get a job
Hahahahah NYU = "get a job"
I can't decide which of the two characters in the story is the bigger drain on society. Oh well, they should both die horrible deaths.
nobody fucking cares about this stuff.
Yes, hackles rose on the "fellow Ivy leaguers" line. Glad we are all watching for this sort of thing, as it won't do.
"He then proceeds to quiz me about some esoteric English composer in order to make me sound and feel like a total idiot"
Okay, honey, there was your first clue that he was an asshole.
Didn't you guys already cover this story yesterday?
she's worse for nailing him than he is for being a typical Biglaw jagoff.
- gallion
i hope she gets a valuable MRS, because just getting an NYU JD isn't going to get her too far
IVY LEAGUE SHOULD ONLY BE HARVARD YALE PRINCETON.
Nobody gives a shit about Cornell, Columbia, Dartmouth.
NYU's better than all those schools (including UPenn State).
dude, read closer: 20 year old, nyu undergrad
I knew a kid who went to BC who often casually (and mistakenly) talked about how it was an Ivy League school. Haha!
21, she's an undergrad genius
#13 is an idiot .. and he smells bad
courtesy of US News-Penn=#6, Columbia=#8, Dartmouth=#11, Cornell=#14, godawfulstupidhippy BROWN=#16, waaay down there NYU=#33, post22=TTT
she's worse for nailing him than he is for being a typical Biglaw jagoff.
- gallion
Very sad. So this is how the lonely people live. I appreciated this story for reminding me that some people have it way worse than me.
When chatting with fellow Ivy-Leaguers during my undergrad days at FCU, I must admit that I found they were quite self-centered and didn't want to save the world. All they cared about was money and prestige. Total gunners in the making.
That said, the composer the guy was talking about was probably Edward Elgar, who is about as esoteric as AC/DC.
Summer associate "working late." Nice excuse.
I'm glad that the dude's apparently toxic personality did not keep him from plowing her. Classy girl.
This sounded like a Hope Winters story... until the chic got some.
Boring. Lame.
I wonder what excuse she used for blowing off her "internet date".
Can we get a back story on that guy too?
copied from ivygateblog?
120.
(Peter Griffith voice): "Sex and the City? That's the show about the three hookers and their mother."
Hay guise, wat's going on? :) I'm a Suffolk 3L who told this dumb JAP I went to Yale, got in her pants, and sent her off without even cab fare. She's telling all her friends she can't wait to see me again. I will bang her out 2 or 3 more times and discreetly brush her off so my GF doesn't find out.
Is this win y/n?
Gentlemen at the legal preparatory academy with which I once was affiliated frequently enticed those persons of the opposite gender, not by whispering tender words of affection, but by querying each as to their knowledge of certain authors of musical compositions, whose works were composed in the service of King Charles I. Upon receipt of information and belief by the targeted female that such composers included, but were not limited to, John Jenkins, said gentlemen proceeded to the next stage of their conquest, being a rote examination on the geographical origins of the Tribes of Israel and the diaspora pertaining to same. Having thus impressed their manhood upon the subjects of their desire, such gentlemen then proceeded to obtain carnal knowledge of the womenfolk, such that their goals were accomplished, by means and methodologies considered by other members of the institution to be of minimal concern or otherwise worthy of remembrance.
Although Legal Fraternity Lothario is, in his ownself, a Harvard man, he knows the type.
24 - There are too many BC grads, both law and undergrad, who have an odd tendency to claim that BC's an Ivy. I've heard it more than once from more than a few different people.
40 -- I get the same thing with UPenn State kids saying it's an Ivy. Someone should correct them.
Look, no one is impressed by people who went to an actual ivy because they are perceived as stuck up. People who claim they went to an ivy when they went to someplace like NYU should be shot because they are both stuck up and retarded.
Georgetown is an Ivy of the Mid-Atlantic
If anyone says "I went to an Ivy League school" I automatically assume they went to Cornell. They are the only people who realize saying "Ivy League" sounds a lot better than actually naming their school.
Wow, a 20 year old talking about her sex life comes off as totally vapid. Shocking...
GULC's an Ivy.
44 - Also Brown.
Brown=TTT
Actually, some of us say "ivy" instead of "Harvard" so those people don't automatically assume we're douchebags for telling everyone we went to Harvard.
The Regional Director in Charge of Sales at Dunder Mifflin Paper Company went to Cornell!
38 and 39 - good posts.
this girl was all kinds of slutty.
No doubt this is Hope Winters posting as Kash and managing to be a tiny bit more interesting.
No doubt this is Hope Winters posting as Kash and managing to be a tiny bit more interesting.
Yale = TTTphaggits
Ivy is the Tulane of the north.
Awesome. I fucking love gold diggers! Can't wait to get my own someday.
47 -- Eh, at least Brown people are proud of having gone to Brown even if it is a nutty hippy school. Cornell people are so insecure about having gone to Cornell that they constantly bring up the Ivy League association almost on cue.
An actual response to the question "Where did you go to undergrad" from a Cornell friend: "Oh, I went to Cornell -- you know, the Ivy League school."
And furthermore, unless you went to Cornell Arts & Sciences, it shouldn't even be considered Ivy. No one thinks your Hotel School, Agriculture School, Human Ecology School, etc. degree is prestigious.
Andy Bernard went to Cornell.
I hate to bust all of your chops, but the Ivy League is an athletic conference comprising eight private institutions of higher education located in the Northeastern United States. I use that term loosely because I've actually seen them play both football and basketball. Of course, they've all got great math teams.
I'd choose Duke and Stanford over them all any day. Better sports, equal academics, better weasther, better weather (needs to be said twice) and a much fairer opposite sex. (Besides, UNC was just down the road.)
If anyone had actually read the whole thing, they'd discover that he didn't actually get into her pants.
I hate to bust all of your chops, but the Ivy League is an athletic conference comprising eight private institutions of higher education located in the Northeastern United States. I use that term loosely because I've actually seen them play both football and basketball. Of course, they've all got great math teams.
I'd choose Duke and Stanford over them all any day. Better sports, equal academics, better weasther, better weather (needs to be said twice) and a much fairer opposite sex. (Besides, UNC was just down the road.)
he plowed her
KASH -- CAN I BE ON TOP OF YOU BEFORE I BARELY FIND THE REMOTE?
KASH -- CAN I BE ON TOP OF YOU BEFORE I BARELY FIND THE REMOTE?
58 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL at subtly trying to group Duke in with Stanford...
56,
Totally agreed. The only people at the Cornell Hotel/Ag schools are Guido drunks. Also, their 2002 convocation speaker was Danny Glover. My Cornell friends are forever traumatized by this.
I really thought my BIGLAW job would help me get girls, but it hasn't. And I'm not bad looking either.
Any tips?
Jewish law students = TTT
58, your Stanford / Duke comparison is about as valid as the Ivies / NYU comparison. Duke is a fine school and does well at select sports (basketball), but to say it's the equivalent of Stanford with its 14 consecutive (and counting) Director's Cups -- this isn't an argument you're going to win. Also, unless you're a hardcore college sports fanatic or frat scene person, Duke's undergrad environment leaves something to be desired to say the least. And Durham, NC isn't exactly Palo Alto or for that matter, close to a major city like San Francisco.
Wow, I don't know which of these two people I loathe more.
Is it me or is anyone overly unimpressed by how often she refers to anything Jewish? I am particularly troubled that a jewish princess would not be more chaste. Maybe I am being sensitive because it is Rosh Hashanah. Shalom. Certainly not a magnum opus.
I bet she was hideous, especially since she is internet dating at the ripe old age of 20. Not to mention the fact that she is having hot flashes over a male YLS student. The kids I have seen there could double for the solid form of flatulence.
~TS
UPenn should be cast out of the Ivy League. No one knows it is actually in there anyway.
58 - you are mostly correct, except you're being kind by saying the "other" Ivies have equal academics to Duke and Stanford. I'd say those two are better than Columbia, Cornell etc....
68 - what a fucking tool. Who do you think gives a shit about the directors cup? Answer: schools that do well in the "other" sports like swimming and water polo and volleyball. You're just as bad as all those non-HYS ivy league kids, trying to talk about your school's athletic prowess in sports that nobody cares about. People who went to real athletic schools don't even know what the director's cup is.
Best reason to go to Stanford is that if you're from Northern Cali and want to stay there after school, Stanford is the only place you'll find attractive women in the region.
I think it must take being out of college for a few years to realize that whatever your academic accomplishments were from ages fourteen to eighteen, they mean little to nothing now. In my law school class at a good school, there is little correlation between where my classmates went to undergrad and their intellectual abilities. The only thing I know for certain is that Yale undergrads are almost uniformly odd.
Great, I had to poke out my eyes just to make sure I never ever read something that horrendous again. I hope you're happy ATL, now I'm blind.
72 = subtle Duke troll
Duke = TTT
Agree with 72. If someone says they went to an Ivy, I know they went to Cornell. And if someone is talking about the Director's Cup, I know they went to Stanford.
73 here. Sorry - last sentence should read, "The only thing I know for certain is that people who went to Yale for undergrad are almost uniformly odd."
48: really? You think that makes you sound like LESS of a douchebag?
72, yeah, you're absolutely right. It's much better to be at a school with 2-3 elite teams (football, basketball, etc.), which gets most of its talent by taking athletes with 1000 (1500 new system) SAT scores who clearly stand no chance of hell of graduating or even passing class in their early years.
God forbid schools like Stanford actually try to admit student-athletes in lots of different sports who won't be completely incapable in the classroom. And yup, the rest of the Director's Cup runner ups (UCLA, Michigan, Arizona State, Texas, Florida, Cal, etc.) -- they're total wusses too who don't do well in real sports either. You've clearly got my number on this one.
39 - outstanding.
This story sucks though b/c the cast of characters could easily be changed to LA entertainment wannabes and their hanger-ons.
39 should have his/her own blog.
I have been a sports fan all my life, both college and pro, and I have never, ever heard of the "Director's Cup". Ever.
“Would it disappoint her if she knew that a high percentage of YLS kids choose clerkships and government jobs over corporate law?”
Naw, apparently the guy meets her three primary criteria: 1. Jewish; 2. Breathing; 3. Interested in her.
39 - Best Lothario post yet. Keep them coming!!!
79 - Settle down Palo Alto douche. All the other schools you listed actually succeed in Men's sports. And none of the people who attend those universities, nor their alumni, care about the Directors Cup. And the only reason people think there are attractive woman at Stanford is the rest of the general area is awful. And don't try to count San Fransisco in 'your general area.'
83 - Based on how he preferred to talk about himself vs. get to know her, not even sure "3. Interested in her" should be on the list.
44: 48 is right. I went to Harvard, and know many fellow Crimson who say they went to an "ivy' school, because it may seem gauche to mention Harvard by name.
Never actually posted before, but felt the need to correct the misinterpretation of her comment that she "talked to some fellow Ivy Leaguers". She wasn't comparing NYU to Yale, she was describing her conversation with Ivy League students other than her acquantance's older brother. Just my interpretation, anyway.
77: Intelligent people are odd by nature; idiocy is the common, unmarked state of mankind.
79: do you mean "runners up"
Harvard is the Vanderbilt of the north
86: In that case, congrats -- you guys have somehow succeeded in being even more pretentious than we could have imagined. If anything, when you say "an Ivy school," the other person will logically ask which one and then, you get another chance to highlight Harvard. Mission accomplished -- just like Iraq and the bailout.
87 you are right. she's just a bad writer.
68 - In the future, please refrain from mentioning Stanford/Palo Alto in the same thought as San Francisco. Having lived in SF for years, I can say that a lot of us despised the douches from Stanford and hated going to Palo Alto to meet with clients. For the record, Stanford does not have hot chicks. Stunningly hot women don't exist in Northern California.
86: TTT troll.
When asked, REAL Harvard alums say they "went to school in Boston."
When you ask where (BC, BU?), they usually mumble and say they did not go to college after all.
22: NYU isn't even better than EMORY.
94: Harvard modesty is sexy.
NYU undergrads are not the most attractive bunch.
NYU Law
Northeastern is the University of the South of the North.
"You, sir, have the boorish manners of a Yalie!"
Directors Cup? Is that somthing Stanley Kubrick used to take shits in on the set?
93 - I live in SF and have the "pleasure" of driving down to Palo Alto every day. Be thankful that you only had to do it once in a while for meetings.
Anyone that thinks that people go to Duke for the "fraternity scene" is clearly retarded. Even more importantly, anyone that thinks that the organizations at Duke remotely resemble respectable fraternities clearly went to a school without them.
No hot women in NoCal? You must not be into Asian chicks.
Stanford does not have hot chicks. I once visited a friend there while I was attending a TTT undergrad (followed by a TTT law school) and championed the "hottest girl at Stanford." She would have been middle of the row at said TTT. Anyway, I was praised for the rest of the weekend and was actually awarded the Director's Cup for my accomplishment.
I can assure 94 that 86 was not me. I can also assure the rest of you that anyone who says "fellow Crimson" is a huge dbag.
Director's Cup = Moronic
Championing your victory in the Director's Cup = A level of wanton douchebaggery not seen in these parts since ATTTL Idol.
Congrats on being a Director's Cup winning loser.
This girl is an insecure idiot.
Why are you so impressed by this guy?
He went to YLS. Big Deal. It doesn't mean he has a BD!
I would have walked out after he bored me to tears.
You are a loser. You deserved to be taken advantage of as a booty call.
JAP whores to 190!
People, please. The Ivy League is merely a consortium of schools who think of themselves as elite and only accept 10% of their applicants at most, and it was started in 1954 as a SPORTS league. Enough said.
60 is completely correct, good for 60 who knows his/her facts
Rah Rah Rah Tiger Tiger Tiger Sis Sis Sis boom Boom boom bah!
I'm waiting for the next installment, when she stalks him because he doesn't call her back. After a few more hookups, she gets pregnant, and when he finds out her father is an HP somewhere, they get married. Ha ha. Ivy League mating behavior ...