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At least Virginia has now merged law and equity, unlike when I took the bar exam there.

Nice. Post the link on the front page so even those with no interest in the results can continue to hammer the server!

Does no-one know how to look at a cached page? It's not only good for finding the names of dismissed associates who have been edited out of their firm's webpages...

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:O8iLl5KT3PwJ:www.vbbe.state.va.us/results.html+http://www.vbbe.state.va.us/results.html&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca

My bad, wrong date! Well, at least maybe I accidentally freaked out some people who didn't see their name listed...

I got my results, passed. You just have to call the state bar office and ask.

I got mine too. Didn't do as well as 7 :(

7 & 8 when did you call and get an answer? i thought they only took calls until 4pm.

Isn't the swearing-in ceremony on October 27 at the Richmond Convention Center? And what kind of a ceremony can it be if all 800 or 1000 or how ever many are sworn in en masse? Sounds like a Unification church mass wedding.

I call bluff on #7 and #8. All of us that took that bar know it's a commonwealth, not a state.

I similarly call BS on 7 & 8 - they've made it abundantly clear that they'll string you up if you so much as think about calling them to ask.

Also - Elie, VA gave us all a letter saying results were coming on the 17th, where are you hearing that "The results of the July 2008 Virginia Bar Exam were supposed to be posted today"?

I echo 12. Though the website has said "mid-October" for some time - the date we were given in Roanoke was the 17th. Where's it coming from that today is the release date?

#7 and #8: Do you think it's funny to make people call the bar examiners and further delay a release of the scores?!

What-ev, I totally got mine from the state bar office...just call Herbie Hanncock, duh.

bullsh*t, 15.

Didn't you know? For every person that calls the VBBE office and asks for their score, they knock 3 points off #14's scaled score.

14, yes.

17, well then I just called 5 times. Your going down, 14.

False alarm, it seems. The results site is back up .... still the old one from February.

#20 ... the February site is not back up...

I just called and was told that they're re-processing the results based on an unprecedented failure rate. Also, apparently 14's score has gone into the negatives.

http://obamaisscum.blogspot.com/

OMG you guys are killing me! Unprecedented failure rate? Under what liability theory can I hold the VBBE liable if I have an aneurysm at a young age?! Strict I'm thinking.....the site is so DEAD right now...and I think the earlier people are full of crapola too.

24, strict liability, huh? FAIL.

- Emperor, VBBE

Is there a GULC exception to the bar rule of having to pass in order to practice?

No, just Penn State University Law.

forget results for now. i'm still a 2L and im trying to play some H3. Call sign Jon J Bag.

Is it Virginia where you must dress formally when you sit for the exam? I heard one of those states (VA or WV) was like that. Can anyone confirm this loony policy?

I believe the unprecendated failure rate stuff. The VBBE is great at professional hazing. You know, Virginia is always jealous. If they think that some other state has a higher faliure rate, they'll re-score.

Yes 29, you have to wear "clothing that is fit for a court of record" But, if you take the exam in the summer, you have to also wear athletic shoes, as hard shoes make to much noise at the Roanoke Colisium's hard floors (of course the shoes squeaked.) When I was studying for the exam, the BarBri rep liked to tell a story of a woman who wore a mumu and was told that she could not sit for the exam.

25, Virginia is still strict liability. None of that namby-pamby decidin' whose more at fault here. There's also a really low cap on punitives, so none of that "my coffee was too hot" bs either. Think about it, ever hear of a big jury award out of Virginia? and none of that "Your Honor, there is a ninth circuit case directly on point" whining either. There are no other circuits other than the 4th, and we ain't so sure about them anymore. What was that? You wanted to marry your other race significant other? Well, I guess we have to let you do that now, but they's better be of the opposite sex.

Virginia is simply full of contradictions. One the one hand, it took the US Supreme Court to tell Virginia that they had to let people of different races marry, but Virginia was the first state to elect a black governor. On the one hand, there was a huge out cry over the placement of a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Richmond a few years ago, and on the other, the fair Commonwealth is leaning toward Obama. And don't get me started on immigrants...

32 - I stopped reading after your first sentence when you conflated contributory negligence and strict liability. My guess is that the rest of your post is full of bitterness directed towards the Commonwealth. Good luck on round 4 this February.

32 - I stopped reading after your first sentence when you conflated contributory negligence and strict liability. My guess is that the rest of your post is full of bitterness directed towards the Commonwealth. Good luck on round 4 this February.

@32 -- The statue was of Arthur Ashe, not Abraham Lincoln. And the general rule in Virginia is not strict liability, but contributory negligence.

While the letter said the 17th, it's pretty routine for VBBE to post earlier than the date they say (like, the Wednesday before) just to psych the bar takers out. Elie's right--it should have been posted today. But due to some admin crap it won't be up till tomorrow morning. I wish they were like NY and just gave us a date and time to check.

I thought VA always released on Thursday of October court week?

This is torture. The VBBE cost Virginia firms big bucks in lost productivity this afternoon - and it looks like more of the same tomorrow! 36, how do you know that "due to some admin crap it won't be up till tomorrow morning"?

31 -- outdated information since the floors at the Roanoake Coliseum were concrete, not hardwood. The basketball floorboards were removed. So, no squeaking shoes this summer. However, I don't know what kind of floors were in the laptop room.

12 -- the letter they gave out this summer to me at the exam did not have the October 17 date; it only mentioned the October 27 date. But, maybe the proctors forgot to give everyone a second document with the October 17 date.

what score is needed on the MBE to feel confident about passing NY??

No, 37, swear in ceremony is always the Monday of October court week at the Richmond convention center.

Lost productivity indeed. As soon as the results page went away, I began compulsively hitting refresh and geting the same 404 error every 2 minutes.

I feel like a total psycho.

This whole process is hazing at a level that makes a gang beat-in seem like snack time at nursery school.

1-stylish

@35

No, the statue was of Lincoln. See: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C02E1DD1238F935A35757C0A9659C8B63

The Ashe statue came about ten years earlier to some minor controversy. Any grumbling today is due to the fact that Ashe looks like he's about to beat down kids with his tennis racket and book while they drown in quicksand.

#32, you're an idiot. Good luck in February; better yet, go back to California. #'s7 and 8, you're both full of s*#&t. To everybody else, don't be so anxious--enjoy the days you have left before the potentiality of a "malpractice suit" or "bar complaint" becomes your new worry in life.

The results were released on a Wednesday in 2006 and a Friday in 2007. I'm not sure who started this Wednesday rumor, but in Roanoke, they told us October 17, which is tomorrow. So while I'm refreshing the page at regular intervals today, I'm not expecting anything until tomorrow.

Don't they mail them the same day they post them? So should we be expecting results in the mail today or Fri.?

You probably won't get your results in the mail until Monday or Tuesday...

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If I remember correctly, they didn't say results WOULD be released on October 17. That was just their "target date," on or around which they would release results.

Any historical data as to time of day results have been posted?

I've heard lots of anecdotal 'data' regarding release times. Unfortunately, it has ranged from "It's always in the morning," to "It's usually around noon," to "It's typically right before VBBE closes at 4:30." Clearly, there's either no pattern whatsoever, or no one knows what they're talking about.

I've heard lots of anecdotal 'data' regarding release times. Unfortunately, it has ranged from "It's always in the morning," to "It's usually around noon," to "It's typically right before VBBE closes at 4:30." Clearly, there's either no pattern whatsoever, or no one knows what they're talking about.

Has anyone been brave enough to call?

What's the point in calling besides to get yelled at? They're not going to tell you anything. Wait like everyone else; don't be annoying.

"The results were released on a . . . Friday in 2007."

Through a few Google searches, I found that the results were released on October 17 last year---which was a Wednesday.

So you are wrong.

You're all idiots. I KNOW people. it is coming out next week.

56: Thanks for insulting our intelligence because we're assuming that the results will be released according to the VBBE's letter at the bar exam. And it's impressive that you know people. Congratulations.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Thanks 57, games are fun.

55, you're correct; I mixed up my years. In 2006, they were released on Friday, October 13. In 2007, they were released on Wednesday, October 17.

I heard they look at how many times bar applicants hit "refresh" on their web browser to see if the scores are up yet. The more times you refresh, the faster the results are posted.

I heard they look at how many times bar applicants hit "refresh" on their web browser to see if the scores are up yet. The more times you refresh, the faster the results are posted.

I heard they look at how many times bar applicants hit "refresh" on their web browser to see if the scores are up yet. The more times you refresh, the faster the results are posted.

60-62.

Coming from a guy who doesn't know how to operate the "post comment" button?

Actually the web site gave me an error message so I posted again. Looks like the technical glitch was on their side.

We're all in the same boat here - it's a stressful day, but maybe we can avoid the sarcasm & keep this relatively civil? No need to make the stress level any worse, let's all be cooool...

Good work, 65. Apparently, if you take sarcasm away from lawyers, they have nothing to say.

Is there a GULC exception to the bar rule of having to pass in order to practice?

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Yeah, I think I saw that somewhere on the Bar application . . . ass.

I got a call from a friend who works at the VBBE. There was a problem with the grading and upon review some of the takers who initially passed subsequently failed. They are considering having all the July takers retest in Feb.

BS 68. I too have heard that rumor. If there is a retest it will be in the Fall NOT in Feb.

68: Pass along to your friend at the VBBE that it's easier for them if they just pass everyone. Then they wouldn't have to cram so many applicants into a convention center in February...

i very likely failed, anyway. so bring it on, 68!

I think the failures will have to retake in Feb and the other will have the option of taking a Nov exam or sitting for the Feb for free. Thats the word in Richmond at least. I would definately take the interim exam if offered the option.

70-- the Feb exam is in Norfolk and there is plenty of room.

Think we'll get another shot at a creditors' rights question? That was just too much fun answering the first time around.

I agree that you likely failed 71. No great loss to the legal community. Weren't you the dude wearing sketchers with a cheap business suit in Roanoke?

i preferred the tax question. i'm so honored we were the first to see it in decades.

i preferred the tax question. i'm so honored we were the first to see it in decades.

I though the questions were fair and relatively easy to answer. 73 and 75: if you didn't pass i'm sure it wasn't necessarily because your not smart. Much of the problem was very likely a result of your substandard educations.

UVA '08

i disagree, 74. it is a HUGE loss to the legal community. although i was not the guy wearing sketchers and a cheap business suit, i was the guy wearing the white suite with the orange shirt. the legal community will miss out on my fashion sense.

75 & 76, 77 is right. Don't place all the blame on genetics.

it wasn't necessarily because your not smart. Much of the problem was very likely a result of your substandard educations.

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Guess they don't teach grammar at UVa (you're vs. your).

77, too bad your "exceptional" UVA education didn't include a course on the subtleties of humor.

Let us hope they don't teach grammar, per se, at UVA...or any law school for that matter!

Everyone knows that people who go to UVA are pricks. . .

Oh, and fair-weather-fans.

i second 80 and 82's comments!

Let us hope they don't teach grammar, per se, at UVA...or any law school for that matter!

78: I'm not suprised you probably failed but I am surprised you chose that outfit. Regent is a pretty conservative school.

UVA '08

Let us hope they don't teach grammar, per se, at UVA...or any law school for that matter!

82, 85 & 87: you seem upset (and spastic). Did you stutter while you were a law student. How cute.

UVA '08

oh, 77. i love your (or is it you're?) attempts at being cute. being defensive is so becoming of you.

yeah, regent is pretty conservative. i just like to shake things up and be original. obviously, you UVA grads have no sense of that.

kiss kiss

I am spastic...fuck. I tried to post once and then, look at that-- it came out in 3 beautiful posts exactly the same.

89-- that's not original, it's tacky. Usually out of ones system by 9th grade. Sorry, that's not fair, let me rephrase, usually out of ones system by the time they get their GED.

Well played 90. But the foul language. It makes you seem a bit bitter. You'll be a good public defender some day. That is, if you pass the Feb exam and convince some local county that hiring a tard is a good PR move.

oh, and by the way 77/86/88,

i went to stanford, not regent (your comments regarding under-education were thoroughly amusing in an ironic way)

i was not that guy in the white suit. although, i give him accolades for being secure enough to wear that. unlike some of us here who need reinforce their fragile egos by reminding themselves of where they went to law school.

lastly, it has been a pleasure wasting your precious overeducated time.

i have to go be a real lawyer.

peace.

Congratulations 93 on not being someone who needs to remind themselves of where they went to law school. Was it Stanford?

93. You're not a real lawyer until you pass the bar exam and get sworn in. Remember you're on page talking about passing the VBE. There is also humor in that.

If you went to Stanford, that is wonderful; however, I'm confident based upon your post you are either very very dumb and went to Stanford or more than likely work at Hardee's and have to get out of the managers office before he gets back and yells at you.

UVA '08

92...the preferred nomenclature is "differently abled" not "tard." But I must say that I never thought of the PR aspect and I am now inspired to pursue a different course in selling myself to local counties.

93-- when your manager leaves his office again, please tell me why you think wearing a goofy outfit to take the bar is deserving of accolades.

Do you guys still sell curly fries?

Is this still a board about the Virginia bar? Seriously...

96. Just stay away from Albemarle County. I want my fries "curly" not slobbered on.

UVA '08

Sure it is, but you gotta love the humor here. It's a welcome distraction from the lack of information coming from the VBBE.

98. It is but it's much more interesting now. You likely failed anyhow. Seriously.

Is this still a board about the Virginia bar? Seriously...

I have no idea where Albermarle County is...so, I think you are safe.

Does anyone know if the results have ever come out late ( - er - later than the date they "target")?

Does anyone know if the results have ever come out late ( - er - later than the date they "target")?

93. Were you that dorky guy who wore a Stanford t-shirt?

99--

What's up with your obsession with food? Were you the fat kid?

I have no idea where Albermarle County is...so, I think you are safe.

Albermarle is where UVA is. Get out of the Commonwealth, 108.

104-105 i'd like you to meet 82, 85, 87. Please don't have kids or forget to wear gloves when handling food.

UVA '08

I have no idea where Albermarle County is...so, I think you are safe.

Get a map 108. YOU FAIL.

UVA '08 - reveal yourself. Some other UVA 08'ers out here are curious....

I went to UVA, and people like UVA 08 give the school a bad reputation. Let me guess, you also wore a bow tie to the Bar Exam?

Seriously, there's no need for such arrogance. We are all in the same boat, regardless of where we went to school. There will be UVa grads who fail the Bar, just as there will be folks from lesser-known schools who pass.

And even if you do pass, you'll probably be taking orders from an "inferior school"--at least for your first few years in practice.

In sum, lighten up.

Well said, 114. I am also a fellow UVA 08er.

Ditto on 115....except...I like the bow tie.

Ok, the bow-tie doesn't bother me so much.

115

Sorry I don't know about Albermarle County...I guess that makes me unqualified for the esteemed VA Bar. I'm from MI, I passed the MI Bar last year, but my gf is licensed in VA (also doesn't know where Albermarle County is), so I had to take VA. So there's my sad story and thats why I am on here waiting, oh waiting...and talking with y'all, to find out how I did.

If you're curious-- the VA Bar is more difficult than MI, because there, all you need to do is get a 150 MBE and you automatically pass no matter what your essays look like. Or, it has been that way and they are now changing it. But it was for me in any case.

113. Can you imagine the ridicule i'd be subject too. I'd have to get a restraining order against the guy from Stanford-Regent. I don't want some passive aggressive, badly dressed dude wearing a diaper who smells like curly fries showing up in Richmond with duct tape, scissors and a love note trying to abduct me.

UVA '08

93, did the white suit guy wear a bow-tie?

Do you guys remember what it was like waiting in line to pull off a "number 2" before the exam? If I don't have to take the bar exam again, I'll always cherish that memory. And if I do have to take it again, well then I'll be having fits of nostalgia waiting in that line again in February. And maybe even again next July too!

99- What are you doing with your UVa JD in Cville still? Isn't it a little late to still be hanging out? Still looking for a job? Or are you doing that whole trust fund noble public service routine? Hope that pompous attitude is treating you well...

Does anyone want to discuss "Joe the Plumber"? Just kidding.

#113 - Richmond, eh....If we just cross-reference our list of where recent grads are practicing, we can figure you out (and Mr. Curly Fries will never have a clue!).....I mean, its not like I'm doing any work right now anyhow. Damn VBBE!

And if you are who I think you are....then you actually DID wear a bow tie to the exam.

Signed - UVA 08 grad that spent 2 years annoying everyone with a wheeling backback. (yes yes -pathetic, I know.)

122. I didn't say i'm still in the area. I just don't want to get bad fries when I go back on recruiting trips.

Seriously...does anybody honestly believe "UVA 08" is an actual UVA grad and not a troll trying to make UVA look bad? Give me a break.

124---I think I know who you are.

--One more UVA 08 grad not getting any work done this afternoon

I know who I am...I'm Batman!

--Me

um, UVa '08..wtf is this obsession you have with fries??? maybe more time on the treadmill and less on message boards would do you some good...

126. I am not making anyone look bad. You can probably handle that with ease without anyone knowing where you went to school. Face it: we are smarter than most and have better pedigrees now. Quit being modest.

UVA '08

UVA'08, are you bitter you didn't go to Harvard or Yale? That's the sense I'm getting.

Has this post really been reduced to a comment pool of individuals talking about why each person is more arrogant than the next and the relative goods and evils of the bow tie?

One more non-UVA 08 grad (WVU 08 here) who did get accepted to UVA via transfer and wishes he would have ignored the heightened monetary expense and followed through on the transfer (but not because I really think it would have increased my chances at passing this bar)

RESULTS ARE IN!!!! check it... www.meatspin.com

I would love to know how many billable hours Virginia associates are wasting just by going back and forth between this page and the results page, mindlessly clicking refresh like those crack-addicted rats in drug experiments . . .

The sheer thought of it amazes me.

After reading some of these comments, I can see why there would be a high failure rate. Makes me feel better about my performance :P

Mistaking a high LSAT score for actual intelligence will only perpetuate your foolish existence further, Waahoo.

RESULTS ARE IN!!!! check it... www.meatspin.com

As a graduate of the venerable Wayne State University Law School in Detroit, MI, after undergrad at Michigan, I can say with absolutely no irony, and all sincerity, that I would be bragging and proud if I went to UVA as well. Lay off UVA '08.

I agree with 131, UVA '08, what a pain you are. And dont sit there so smug in your chair either - it's not like UVA had the highest pass rate in VA last year. I hope you passed, because I wouldn't wish failing on anyone, but I can tell you right now your attitude won't get you far. Oh and you didn't gain any extra points with the bow tie.

UVA 08--Ivy envy? Penis envy? Both?

Face it: we are smarter than most and have better pedigrees now.

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114 here. A good pedigree won't overcome a shitty personality--no matter how bright you are.