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Associate Life Survey: Bonus Time

funny-pictures-kitten-gives-his-friend-a-cheeseburger.jpgWe’ve received over 900 responses so far to Monday’s ATL / Lateral Link survey on bonuses, which is still open here.

Although ATL had predicted that bonus announcements may come later this year, McDermott Will & Emery actually announced the “December Bonus Advance” portion of their bonus plan mere hours after our survey went live, quickly proving a portion of us wrong, and rendering a portion of their associates reassured.

Overall, most respondents expect that their firms will pay bonuses on roughly the same schedule as they did for 2007:

Results: When Did, Or Will, Your Firm Pay Bonuses?

Bonus For 2007
 
Bonus For 2008
Month   Percentage   Month   Percentage
September 20070.2%   September 20080.19%
October 20070.2%   October 20080.19%
November 20072.44%   November 20080.39%
December 200747.66%   December 200842.97%
January 200820.77%   January 200922.54%
February 200816.29%   February 200914.45%
March 20089.57%   March 20099.83%
April 20081.63%   April 20091.54%
May 20080%   May 20090%
June 20080.41%   June 20090.19%
Bonuses weren’t paid.0.81%   Bonuses won’t be paid.3.08%
  We don’t know.4.62%

The results above only include responses from people who were at firms last year, are still at firms now, and can actually remember that sweet, sweet day when their bonuses were paid for 2007. While the overwhelming majority of these respondents received a bonus last year, and expect at least the timing of bonuses to remain the same for 2008, a meaningful number are definitely concerned: roughly one in thirteen of these respondents either aren’t sure about when their firms will be paying bonuses or, worse yet, don’t think their firms will pay bonuses at all for 2008.

Find out which firms paid when last year, and see some preliminary results on whether your peers would trade their bonuses for better job security, after the jump.


As shown above, the overwhelming majority of respondents said that their firms pay bonuses in December or January.

But associates at the following firms said they didn’t receive their 2007 bonuses until a bit later:

February 2008
Cahill Gordon
DLA Piper
Goodwin Procter
Kramer Levin

March 2008
Kaye Scholer
McDermott Will & Emery
Seyfarth Shaw

April 2008
Paul Hastings
Reed Smith

Note that in some cases, like McDermott, bonuses were paid in two stages, so the later date is reported above. In other cases, respondents gave varying dates so, again, the latest date is what’s reported above.

But timing aside, what about the numbers?

Asked whether (and how much) associates would be willing to cut their bonuses in exchange for fewer layoffs, some respondents’ comments weren’t quite as warm and fuzzy as the photo above. As one reader put it:

Don’t care about layoffs, and so wouldn’t sacrifice a nickel in bonus to avoid them. Layoffs, if any at my firm, won’t reach my class (2004). If they do, they won’t reach my practice area (litigation). If they do, they won’t reach me.

Actual survey responses included write-in gems like these:

lay off the lazy a-holes. I billed 3000 this year.
Would prefer higher bonus with layoffs
This depends on whether I would be the one getting laid off.

But after these responses came in we got some painful reminders of one reader’s prediction:

This year’s bonus in biglaw: you’re not fired. Let’s hope most of us can get it.

So, before we tell you whether the comments above are typical, we’re going to leave the survey open here to see how people respond now that White & Case has ushered the Vault 20 into layoff season. Will late responders be more likely to throw their peers some support, or will they toss them overboard? If you haven’t already taken the survey, click here to chip in your two cents — which may be higher than that bonus in January.

Stay tuned for more results on Monday.


Justin Bernold is a Director at Lateral Link, the sponsor of this Associate Life Survey.

Comments

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1 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:36 PM

first

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2 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:36 PM

first bitches?

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3 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:36 PM

seriously, what is with your cat fetish?

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4 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:37 PM

first again

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5 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:38 PM

I laughed at the cats...but it is key to use them cleverly, not everywhere.

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6 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:40 PM

SkaddenDC bonus is a laminated map of the city with the location of other DC firms highlighted along with contact information. Also, free counseling is being offered.

7 Posted by nervous T10 1L | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:05 PM

*writes in my cover letter that my bonus to the firm if i'm hired will be free back massages to senior associates...that's probably better than the bonus they will be getting this year from the firm.*

-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com

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8 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:08 PM

Last night I brought a girl back to my place. When i pulled down my pants, she started to laugh. Given that this was my first experience with a woman, I really dont know what to think.

-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com

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9 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:08 PM

cutest cats ever

10 Posted by nervous T10 1L | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:10 PM

8: such lies!

*adds "not a virgin" to resume, immediately becomes a minority recruit among law students*

-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com

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11 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:12 PM

When i masturbate, I look at myself in the mirror

-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com

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12 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:13 PM

cats - mmmm good eatin!

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13 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:13 PM

taking out the trash has been a long time comin. Bonuses for the deserving from the salaries of those whose continued employment has been little more than charity.

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14 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:25 PM

This blog sucks now.

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15 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:31 PM

Anybody who seriously expects a bonus in this day and age is smoking crack.

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16 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:32 PM

Cahill paid bonuses in January.

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17 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:36 PM

16,

Thank you for your completely incisive comment.

I take it you took a very long nap since January.

Let me give you a little clue as to why I might be a little peeved at you -- what happened in January is not particularly relevant in November. Not after all the excitement in September what with AIG and Lehman Brothers.

Let me guess -- you're with GULC or Hofstra, right?

Dumbass

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18 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:48 PM

17 - why are you so angry? whats your beef with GULC and Hofstra?

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19 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:52 PM

17 - you are the pot calling the kettle black: 16 was simply correcting misinformation above about the timing of the 2007 Cahill bonus. get a life.

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20 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:00 PM

I look forward to rational discussions about cutting salaries 25 percent for associates who wish to continue working in major law firms throughout the country.

A CWT Partner (no, not Bob)

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2008/11/12/you-know-things-are-bad-when-baseball-players-take-a-pay-cut/

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21 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:03 PM

I find it interesting that no one rushes to defend GULC or Hofstra.

I agree with the unspoken assumption -- both GULC and Hofstra are below TTT.

Hire at your own peril.

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22 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:37 PM

20 - Quit internet surfing you incompetent ass and work on bringing in some business.

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23 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:58 PM

1st Place: 11
2nd Place: 8

Fine work, gentlemen.

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24 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:51 PM

Firms laying people off pride themselves as being savvy businesses reacting to market conditions. What is so business-savvy, then, about cancelling bonuses when a year later (when, assuming market conditions improve), those associates denied a bonus jump ship?

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25 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:29 PM

Those LOL kittens are SO CUTE!!!

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26 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:53 PM

nervous TTT10 1L really just isn't funny anymore....sorry brah

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27 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:07 PM

yeah, i have to admit it. these kitties are pretty cute.

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28 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:53 AM

Goodwin paid bonuses on January 25 last year, just as it does every year.

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