Associate Life Survey: Bonus Time
We’ve received over 900 responses so far to Monday’s ATL / Lateral Link survey on bonuses, which is still open here.
Although ATL had predicted that bonus announcements may come later this year, McDermott Will & Emery actually announced the “December Bonus Advance” portion of their bonus plan mere hours after our survey went live, quickly proving a portion of us wrong, and rendering a portion of their associates reassured.
Overall, most respondents expect that their firms will pay bonuses on roughly the same schedule as they did for 2007:
Results: When Did, Or Will, Your Firm Pay Bonuses?
| Month | Percentage | Month | Percentage | |||
| September 2007 | 0.2% | September 2008 | 0.19% | |||
| October 2007 | 0.2% | October 2008 | 0.19% | |||
| November 2007 | 2.44% | November 2008 | 0.39% | |||
| December 2007 | 47.66% | December 2008 | 42.97% | |||
| January 2008 | 20.77% | January 2009 | 22.54% | |||
| February 2008 | 16.29% | February 2009 | 14.45% | |||
| March 2008 | 9.57% | March 2009 | 9.83% | |||
| April 2008 | 1.63% | April 2009 | 1.54% | |||
| May 2008 | 0% | May 2009 | 0% | |||
| June 2008 | 0.41% | June 2009 | 0.19% | |||
| Bonuses weren’t paid. | 0.81% | Bonuses won’t be paid. | 3.08% | |||
| We don’t know. | 4.62% | |||||
The results above only include responses from people who were at firms last year, are still at firms now, and can actually remember that sweet, sweet day when their bonuses were paid for 2007. While the overwhelming majority of these respondents received a bonus last year, and expect at least the timing of bonuses to remain the same for 2008, a meaningful number are definitely concerned: roughly one in thirteen of these respondents either aren’t sure about when their firms will be paying bonuses or, worse yet, don’t think their firms will pay bonuses at all for 2008.
Find out which firms paid when last year, and see some preliminary results on whether your peers would trade their bonuses for better job security, after the jump.
As shown above, the overwhelming majority of respondents said that their firms pay bonuses in December or January.
But associates at the following firms said they didn’t receive their 2007 bonuses until a bit later:
February 2008
Cahill Gordon
DLA Piper
Goodwin Procter
Kramer Levin
March 2008
Kaye Scholer
McDermott Will & Emery
Seyfarth Shaw
April 2008
Paul Hastings
Reed Smith
Note that in some cases, like McDermott, bonuses were paid in two stages, so the later date is reported above. In other cases, respondents gave varying dates so, again, the latest date is what’s reported above.
But timing aside, what about the numbers?
Asked whether (and how much) associates would be willing to cut their bonuses in exchange for fewer layoffs, some respondents’ comments weren’t quite as warm and fuzzy as the photo above. As one reader put it:
Don’t care about layoffs, and so wouldn’t sacrifice a nickel in bonus to avoid them. Layoffs, if any at my firm, won’t reach my class (2004). If they do, they won’t reach my practice area (litigation). If they do, they won’t reach me.
Actual survey responses included write-in gems like these:
lay off the lazy a-holes. I billed 3000 this year.
Would prefer higher bonus with layoffs
This depends on whether I would be the one getting laid off.
But after these responses came in we got some painful reminders of one reader’s prediction:
This year’s bonus in biglaw: you’re not fired. Let’s hope most of us can get it.
So, before we tell you whether the comments above are typical, we’re going to leave the survey open here to see how people respond now that White & Case has ushered the Vault 20 into layoff season. Will late responders be more likely to throw their peers some support, or will they toss them overboard? If you haven’t already taken the survey, click here to chip in your two cents — which may be higher than that bonus in January.
Stay tuned for more results on Monday.
—
Justin Bernold is a Director at Lateral Link, the sponsor of this Associate Life Survey.




Comments
first
first bitches?
seriously, what is with your cat fetish?
first again
I laughed at the cats...but it is key to use them cleverly, not everywhere.
SkaddenDC bonus is a laminated map of the city with the location of other DC firms highlighted along with contact information. Also, free counseling is being offered.
*writes in my cover letter that my bonus to the firm if i'm hired will be free back massages to senior associates...that's probably better than the bonus they will be getting this year from the firm.*
-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com
Last night I brought a girl back to my place. When i pulled down my pants, she started to laugh. Given that this was my first experience with a woman, I really dont know what to think.
-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com
cutest cats ever
8: such lies!
*adds "not a virgin" to resume, immediately becomes a minority recruit among law students*
-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com
When i masturbate, I look at myself in the mirror
-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com
cats - mmmm good eatin!
taking out the trash has been a long time comin. Bonuses for the deserving from the salaries of those whose continued employment has been little more than charity.
This blog sucks now.
Anybody who seriously expects a bonus in this day and age is smoking crack.
Cahill paid bonuses in January.
16,
Thank you for your completely incisive comment.
I take it you took a very long nap since January.
Let me give you a little clue as to why I might be a little peeved at you -- what happened in January is not particularly relevant in November. Not after all the excitement in September what with AIG and Lehman Brothers.
Let me guess -- you're with GULC or Hofstra, right?
Dumbass
17 - why are you so angry? whats your beef with GULC and Hofstra?
17 - you are the pot calling the kettle black: 16 was simply correcting misinformation above about the timing of the 2007 Cahill bonus. get a life.
I look forward to rational discussions about cutting salaries 25 percent for associates who wish to continue working in major law firms throughout the country.
A CWT Partner (no, not Bob)
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2008/11/12/you-know-things-are-bad-when-baseball-players-take-a-pay-cut/
I find it interesting that no one rushes to defend GULC or Hofstra.
I agree with the unspoken assumption -- both GULC and Hofstra are below TTT.
Hire at your own peril.
20 - Quit internet surfing you incompetent ass and work on bringing in some business.
1st Place: 11
2nd Place: 8
Fine work, gentlemen.
Firms laying people off pride themselves as being savvy businesses reacting to market conditions. What is so business-savvy, then, about cancelling bonuses when a year later (when, assuming market conditions improve), those associates denied a bonus jump ship?
Those LOL kittens are SO CUTE!!!
nervous TTT10 1L really just isn't funny anymore....sorry brah
yeah, i have to admit it. these kitties are pretty cute.
Goodwin paid bonuses on January 25 last year, just as it does every year.