Sadly second. And who gives a shit? Other than Harvard trolls, apparently.

These pretzels blah blah.

Really? Another rah-rah Harvard post. You fat fuck.

How the hell is Stanford 17? Perfect 100's on Academic Peer and Employer reviews. The best Student-To-Faculty ratio of anyone in the top 20. Just lower on international prof's and students, and THAT drops you so low? Amazing...

These "rankings" are ridiculous. What a joke. We should just start making our own damn rankings and peddling them to idiots around the country/world.

Duke should be higher. Stupid stripper killed our prestige.

NYU should be in the top 5. We're just as good as Columbia.

7 -- that should raise your prestige.

Joke

US News can photocopy my balls

go blue! best public in the world!

now if only it would get me a job.

-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com

Elie - your stock is going up, up, up. Keep this late night posting up, and I will take back all I ever said about the grammatical errors.

Wow. I usually support anything the USNews people do, but these rankings are ludicrous. 1 component involves student quality. somehow international faculty has some bearing on the quality of the university? And the # international students is a component? Lame. never once was one of my classes better because there was a brit or a bulgarian. More importantly i wasn't better, the material wasn't clearer, i didn't learn more or more in-depth because of an int'l prof/student.

Harvard, America's McGill

I'm sorry, UVA is not one notch above Pitt. End of story.

Cornell is about right

Cornell..... ever heard of it?

A. Bernard

I know it's not legal?! What the fuck?! This reminds me of my favorite hockey blog that talks about fucking football! Jesus...

Proofreading aside, Mystal, you have been doing a fantastic job lately. Late night posts, good content, etc, etc. Please start reporting on staff bonuses too...I am freaking out over here.
PS-Lat good job on whipping the new EIC into shape.(not a knock on actual weight or ethnicity)

****Here come the #20(or whatever number I am) is racist comments***

Columbia to 190K!!!!!

#20 is not racist

Elie, keep up the late night posts. Sadly, I am working on my outlines at 12pm on a Friday so it’s nice to have something new on the blog.

#20 is not racist

Elie, keep up the late night posts. Sadly, I am working on my outlines at 12am on a Friday so it’s nice to have something new on the blog.

"How the hell is Stanford 17? Perfect 100's on Academic Peer and Employer reviews. The best Student-To-Faculty ratio of anyone in the top 20. Just lower on international prof's and students, and THAT drops you so low? Amazing..."

You seem to have misunderstood the methodology. All the rankings are out of 100 - including the student-to-faculty one. Stanford has the worst student-to-faculty ratio in the top 20, not the best. That's what crushes it.

This rating is just ridiculous.

First of all, using the number of foreign students as a criterion is absurd. Just what the world needs - more Saudi princes lowering the academic standards of the world's best institutions even further. Bullshit.

Harvard number one and Princeton nowhere to be seen in the top 10? Talked to H grads much - who in their honest moments bitch endlessly about how many clueless grad students "imparted" knowledge to them?

Stanford not in the top 10? Give me an effing break.

Nice to see CalTech, MIT and UChicago recognised as the fantastic universities they are though.

This rating is just ridiculous.

First of all, using the number of foreign students as a criterion is absurd. Just what the world needs - more Saudi princes lowering the academic standards of the world's best institutions even further. Bullshit.

Harvard number one and Princeton nowhere to be seen in the top 10? Talked to H grads much - who in their honest moments bitch endlessly about how many clueless grad students "imparted" knowledge to them?

Stanford not in the top 10? Give me an effing break.

Nice to see CalTech, MIT and UChicago recognised as the fantastic universities they are though.

What a funny idea - not ranking the best universities in the world but the best world universities - only reason I can think of for making proportion of international student and faculty an important indicator.

And who the hell gave Boston U that high of an academic reputation ranking? Must have had them confused with that other public school in the city, MIT.

Finally, the UvA (53) is not the best university in the Netherlands, certainly not a jillion spots better than Delft.

"And who the hell gave Boston U that high of an academic reputation ranking? Must have had them confused with that other public school in the city, MIT."

Neither BU nor MIT are public.

Caltech is a blister on MIT's arse. Who are they kidding?

Guys in my low-rated university used to blow off lists like this in favor of, you know, nailing chics and drinking beer. It was no big deal.

28: That's not true. BU and MIT are both public universities, just like UPenn. Public Unis can be great too you know - you don't have to be such a snob about it.

-27

UofT 40, UBC 33, McGill 20? Bullshit. U of T has been ranked the best school in Canada since confederation. All my idiot pothead friends went to MCGill and studied pop music appreciation. Suck my long, thick Canadian dong US News.

24: Ah, that does make more sense. Thank you. Hopefully Stanford finds a way to cheat and skew that student-to-faculty ratio better in the future. :-)

- 20

Elie's "enjoying the company of my wife" = "stuffing my face with deep-fried HoHos."

1141PM on a Friday, plus the Mukasey scoop.
Elie you are a pimp, NYU cracks notwithstanding.

It warms my heart that Georgetown, the most overrated university in America, sits ignominiously at 110.

Please stop posting things that solely appear to the XOXO prestige-whore crowd. It will really kill this site.

32 -- Wake up call Nobody outside of Canada has heard of Uoft, but we have heard of McGill.

What a load of bull. Not a single Liberal Arts College on the whole list...

39, maybe that's because liberal arts colleges actually are worthless?

Think of USNews's normal ranking of US LACs, made separately from the ranking of US universities, as akin to a list of the world's tallest midgets.

i degree from amherst is always going to be worth much. much more than Umass amherst, yet umass makes the list.

love how Penn State is ranked higher than G-town, im sure every year 100s of people pick penn state instead

Stony Brook (Stony Brook!!!) is ranked higher than Notre Dame.

I think that just about solidifies this list as unworthy of wiping the A$$ of half-Skadden

32 = FAIL. Maclean's has ranked McGill #1 the last three years at least. Granted U of T's law school has been ranked #1 for a long time.

15, I used to have a t-shirt that said that.

I don't understand the "Harvard is on here twice" comment. Cambridge is a university in London. What does that have to do with Harvard?

The late night postings are great. All else we need is for you to proofread your blogs and ATL will be back on top.

35 -- I'll grant the late posting is nice, but the scoop was Lat, not Elie.

Elie is a FAT FUCK. That's all.

Good job, Elie! All we need now is a post on PEANUTS and CHEESE! Bring it, Dawg! Bring that shit!

Nice job, Elie! All we need now is a post on PEANUTS and CHEESE! Bring it, Dawg! Bring that shit!

How in the f- does Notre Dame wind up in the top 200 of anything? It's a repository for Catholics of middling intellecutal abilities who want to feign accomplishment. How many middle managers are out there still clinging to "I went to Notre Dame" to hide their lack of accomplishment?

That school has failed to contribute anything relevant to scholarship ever. It's basically Valparaiso with a higher tuition.

UofT? is that the trade school in Toronto with 50K+ undergrads? Is there anyone that doesn't get into UofT?

UofT? is that the trade school in Toronto with 50K+ undergrads? Is there anyone that doesn't get into UofT?

51/52 - Yes, everyone that goes to York.

Wow, 50. What's with all the hate for ND? Given the tone of your post, it sounds like someone has an axe to grind.

Well if you folks read the results, UofT has a bad student-faculty ratio and lower int'l faculty/student proportion than McGill, but kicks McGill's ass on citations.

Obviously they're trying to rate educational experience with student-faculty ratio and int'l prestige (deserved or not).

And for you Americans bashing Canadian schools, at least we aren't saddled with massive debt - we pay less in law school than many of you folks pay in undergrad.

isn't mcgill where entitled kids from the US go so they can claim they went to the harvard of canada? right. i think it is. hmmmm.

50 -- Where did you go to school?

woohoo Cornell 15

a liberal arts education is worth exactly what you would pay for the easy route to the law school it gets you to. In this economy, that value is somewhat suspect, I'll grant you.

I believe U of P was left off your list...it's #6 on the list?

I believe U of P was left off your list...it's #6 on the list?

I believe U of P was left off your list...it's #6 on the list?

I believe U of P was left off your list...it's #6 on the list?

Wait, I thought NYU was T5?

- Proud CLS 2L Stud

U of T huh? C'mon University of Texas isn't in Canada!

hey elie- i wanted to send you a tip but the send tips icon doesn't work. you should post your email address more prominently on the website. anyway, my friend told me that 5 associates from his group just got fired from schulte. no severance! you should investigate/post about this.

hey elie- i wanted to send you a tip but the send tips icon doesn't work. you should post your email address more prominently on the website. anyway, my friend told me that 5 associates from his group just got fired from schulte. no severance! you should investigate/post about this.

hey elie- i wanted to send you a tip but the send tips icon doesn't work. you should post your email address more prominently on the website. anyway, my friend told me that 5 associates from his group just got fired from schulte. no severance! you should investigate/post about this.

good post.

43 - how was Planets, Stars and Galaxies? As good as your course on The Beatles? U of T has the best law school, the best med school, and the best PhD programs in Canada by far. The reason you have been at the top of the rankings for three years is because we withdrew three years ago.

51 - 3 campuses, jerkoff. Anyone who had less than an 85% average didn't get in to U of T when I matriculated. I also got into Princeton and Harvard, fwiw.

any ranking that places UCLA above UC Berkeley academically is flawed. most people outside of the US have never even heard of UCLA.

what fucking horseshit.

who cares how many dirty foreigenr students and faculty you have?

Blatant east coast pederast trolling.

Even more usless than USN&W's domestic rankings. Why did I even bother...

US News & World Report would rank the shapes of assholes - and provide a corresponding methodology - if this generated any public interest.

32, in terms you'll understand, "YOUR A FAG".

Any retard with a pulse can get into U of T Mississauga campus, and come out with an indistinguishable U of T degree. They are meaningless. For undergrad purposes, McGill is the only school in Canada I respect. But no other country in the world touches America. Look to endowments.. U of T has a little over a billion I think; Harvard $36B.

Dispair not, the rankings will go away one day.

As Elie linked, US News is now going from weekly to monthly. They can't make money. Eventually, they'll disappear from print and they'll just be publishers of lists.

posting rankings makes Elie a good blogger all of a sudden?

well, it's nice to see the kind of low standards to which readers of this blog have become accustomed.

notre dame blows. it's a repository of midwesterners trying to be elite. tin the midwest northwestern and u of chicago don't even consider notre dame in the same breath.

71 - UCLA is actually one of the more recognized universities outside of the US (see, e.g., http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/2005/apr/05/ucla-name-la-lifestyle-marketa/), but in any event, I do think that the rankings are flawed, only because UCLA is consistently outranked by Berkeley (and UVA) in the US News rankings for best colleges in the US, but is supposedly a "better" school than Cal or UVA under these world rankings.

These rankings are BS

70 - So UofT withdrew, yet it's ranked third this year. How does that work?

And yes the History of Pop Music was a lot of fun. Kind of like living in Montreal for four years - as opposed to the centre of the Universe, i.e., Toronto.

People from UofT just don't get it. McGill has a prestige that is known throughout the world. Toronto just doesn't have that. Do Americans flock to the T-DOT? No -- they come to McGill because it's a school their parents regard as being (almost) up to par with good U.S. schools.

Oh ya, and I would rather stick needles in my eyes than live in Toronto. Talk about an NYC wannabe, without any of the charm.

The rankings are a fucking joke. northwestern below ucla? And northwestern peer academic reputation = 88, ucla = 100.

74 wins.

82: You cannot have lived in either NYC or Toronto. NYC may be a lot of things but "charming" it is not.

What a load of crap.

Who knew they let Canadians into the legal profession?

Student faculty ratio? Who cares.

Hey 87 - we're coming to take your jobs. Deal with it sucka.

Somehow the other world rankings consistently stick Stanford and Berkeley in the top 10 but US news decides to kick em down a notch.

Ahh more useless metrics.

THIS IS NOT LEGAL NEWS! ATL - please get a new blogger - this one sucks. Lat we need you back.

But it still has managed to generate almost 100 comments....

92=elie

test

Really? Georgetown being in 110 looks good to you?

When your firm and industry goes down the drain, you pathetic crazies come crawling to Congress to bail you out, and that means whispering and begging in the ears of Georgetown Chief of Staffs and Legislative Aides.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Elie, is the "wife" actually your "hand?" Also, we know you don't have friends or a dog, so please stop making up stuff.

This list a joke, Hofstra is nowhere to be found and Stony Brook is number 127. Hofstra dominates Stony Brook and should be somewhere around 100, at the lowest.

...well at least we still have better academics than OSU.

go blue?

-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com

LOL@ Hofstra.

OK, point about how useful this list is:

BU rank on "international" list: 46

BU rank on "US only" list: 60

Add more competition and BU gets ranked HIGHER?? Its not even consistent WITHIN US News lists. I'm assuming this means the criteria are different, which means this list is about as relevant and useful as those law school ranking lists from "Who the Hell Are They" authors that claim Thomas Cooley is the 11th best law school in the country.

These rankings are just barely more valid than those ones that had Wabash and Centre College beating half the Ivies.

Too High:
Caltech (5), Penn (11), Cornell (15), Michigan (18), McGill (20), UCLA (30), BU (46),

Too Low:
MIT, (9), Stanford (17), Berkeley (36), UVA (96), Georgetown (110), Notre Dame (168)

Just Right:
NYU (40), Wash U (60), Emory (62), Texas (70), Colorado (180), Brandeis (185)

100, Thomas Cooley is a damn good law school. Are you trying to say that library square footage and number of seats in the library aren't a good way to determine the best law school?

i think that rankings should be based on the ratio of PEANUTS TO CHEESE and the number of employees placed at WILDMAN HARROLD as opposed to the rediculous factors discussed above (e.g. educational quality)

It must suck to go to McGill. Quebec students pay $3500 per year and other Cdn students pay $7000. Then they get hired in NY for exactly the same salary and with exactly the same career prospects as someone who paid 10x as much. A summer associate in NY from McGill can pay off their ENTIRE law school tuition by working for a few weeks.

Oh, and even if you go to McGill as an international student, it's less than $17,000. And, like Ukraine, the Canadian dollar is weak. The Quebec dollar is even weaker.

WashU got shanked. We are tied with Cornell in national rankings, but then get shafted down to 60 in the world? Below the University of Washington????

Very bizzarre.

Any ranking that puts BC above ND or BU above BC is garbage.

40,

Agree most liberal arts college are jokes, but the top New England ones (Williams, Wesleyan, Amherst, Bowdoin, etc.) are competitive with the top Universities In Forbes ranking there were like 10 in the top 25

Right. Everyone outside the US knows that Oxford is #1 and Cambridge is #2. Silly Americans.

Elie,

Stealth layoffs at Brobeck. True story. Follow up on it.

Silly

i can't believe penn is going to the rose bowl and not michigan! i knew i should've went there...

-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com

107: or any ranking that puts BU above Northeastern is just crap.

University of Uppsala at 63 over University of Lund at 88 is just plain stupid. At least Chalmers got pwned...

Penn at 105 is hilarious - that's what you get for putting the law school in Dickinson...

31 - "That's not true. BU and MIT are both public universities, just like UPenn. Public Unis can be great too you know - you don't have to be such a snob about it."

MIT is not public. I know, I went there. It is definitely not public.

please, enough of the masturbatory Harvard posts. we promise not to forget you went to Harvard and that Harvard is a top school. now leave it alone for 10 fucking minutes and talk about something else, maybe something about law?

What do you gentlemen use for your manscaping needs?

31, 116 - Not only is MIT not a public university, BU is also not a public university.

31 must have assumed they were public because their names included Boston and Massachusetts. WRONG

106, everyone knows WashU is ridiculously overrated and its high US News Ranking is more a product of gaming the system (sending applications to every high school student with a pulse to get its selectivity up) than it truly being a top school. Regardless of the crap that Cornell and Brown get, would anyone really take WashU over either of them?

The WSJ rankings from a couple of years ago based upon how many students at each college got into elite law / med / business schools also back up the fact that WashU (ranked 47) is unimpressive: http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf

For all of you who like to attack proof reading, Caltech is not two words. Somehow people get Cal Tech out of it, but please, it's written right there on the list, "Caltech."
Also, all those MIT people hating on Caltech because they had to spend their winters 40 degrees colder, you can be comforted at that fact that Caltech is only ranked higher because it is stronger academically. The MIT sports programs are much better.

121: Eh, I see your point, but the fact that the school's official name is "The California Institute of Technology," splitting the name into two words isn't as ridiculous as it might otherwise be. Every other school with "Tech" in its name goes with two words too: Georgia Tech, Illinois Tech, Louisiana Tech, Texas Tech, Virginia Tech, etc.

If you're going against convention, then you have to be prepared for confusion / mistakes -- much like how the University of [State Name] are public schools except for our insecure Penn friends. Things are looking up though -- at least they're heading to the Rose Bowl!

Um, this list makes no sense. I mean it does not even match up with their normal US-based ranking. UVA at 96 behind UCLA and BU? Please.

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McGill!

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116 and 119,

What do you mean MIT, BU, and UPenn aren't public? It is BOSTON University, the MASSACHUSETTS Institute of Tech, and the University OF PENNSYLVANIA. I mean, c'mon, I know this blog is jammed with private school snobs, but did you guys fail grammar class or what?!?

-27 and 31

As a Canadian (at a US law school), I can confirm that any retard can get into U of T or McGill.

The name of the game in Canada is the program. Both schools take people with the equivalent of C averages in high school in either of their Arts programs. On the other hand, they both have specific programs that are very competitive--they change over time but when I started undergrad, you needed the equivalent of a 3.9 in high school to get into Engineering Science at U of T. It's not like Harvard or Yale (which, by the way, along with other good US schools, most capable Canadians go to for undergrad) where everyone but the trust fund babies is smart. The quality of the student body, taken as a whole, at both schools is comparable with, say, a Boise State or a University of Delaware.

The faculties have high peer review scores because both schools are enormous and have large international (read: American-trained) faculties. I also assume they included Canadian peer review journals.

That does not change the fact that--again, as someone who has interacted with "the academic elite" both sides of the border--most Canadians have the ambition, self awareness, and intelligence of your average American homeless man.

Seriously, folks, what do you use to tame your manbush? My dark and curly forest needs some attention.

133, best comment e-v-a-r

the next person to comment to the effect that the US rankings don't match the international rankings gets a cookie. Don't worry, I have a truck load.

Seriously, am I the only one who thinks it's not entirely unreasonable to use different metrics for the US and international rankings? And once you allow for one small change, isn't it obvious that you could then seen significant movement up/down the list for some schools

132 - Canadian at a US law school... I guess you couldn't get in to UofT for law school, eh?

44: I think you need to re-take your geography class...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/business/23law.html?pagewanted=1&8dpc

Caltech above MIT on another list?

Thats right bitches!

Caltech is to MIT as the Tit-mouse is to a Kangaroo.

A small, shitty rendition.

Guys in my high school named Elie were fat fucks. It was no big deal.

Michigan = best school in the country

I'm shocked at how high Duke and UCLA are.

Oh, thats right, this retarded lists values masses of asians.

U.S. News & World Report is proud to publish our first ever World's Best Colleges and Universities rankings. These rankings are based on data from the THE-QS World University Rankings, which were produced in association with QS Quacquarelli Symonds. QS Quacquarelli Symonds, one of the world's leading networks for careers and education, has been publishing world rankings since 2004. These rankings have obtained increasing influence among academics worldwide and have a growing impact among prospective students and government policymakers.

The link clearly states that the rankings are not from US News.

Here is the link to the actual source:

http://www.topuniversities.com/worlduniversityrankings/results/2008/overall_rankings/top_100_universities/

78:
Most people in the world of high stakes academics don't put Northwestern and the University of Chicago in the same breath.

Let's start another rankings list - perhaps "Top 10 News Magazines Printed in English."

1. Newsweek
2. Highlights
3. US Weekly
4. People
5. Time
6. Playboy
7. Soldier of Fortune
8. Air & Space Law
9. O, The Oprah Magazine
10. US News & World Report

MIT LAW FTW

these rankings are total gay parade and need to stay in the shade

147, you forgot "Garden & Gun Magazine: Soul of the New South"

http://gardenandgun.com/

146:

most people in the world of high stakes academics are virgins...just sayin.

*hustles back to the job search*

-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com

150:
Conceded.
-146

Go Oxford
Shoo the tabs

This list is a waste of internet space.

It surprises my how low Georgetown ranks on an international rankings list considering how many children of high-level people from across the globe go there to study international affairs. People around the world have heard of Georgetown, but not so much many of the schools "ranked" higher.

154-
However well-known Georgetown in international affairs, it is not considered in the same league as the top ten research institutions listed above - think about scholarly contributions in math, physics, biology, medicine, even social sciences like psychology, sociology, anthropology; Georgetown doesn't do it all, across the board, on a world-class like those other universities.

Clearly University of Fitzburger should be ranked higher on the list. It has the highest concentration of foreign students in it's basket weaving program. People come from all around the world to study there. They come especially for the upper level underwater basket class.

Cambridge in not in London.

I defy you to name one program at McGill that is more highly regarded than its UofT equivalent. Being in Montreal is not a program.

Furthermore, Montreal is decrepit and full of Quebs.

Also, how did UofMontreal beat Concordia, let alone Queen's?

Did I just enter another dimension through the Internet? A place where anything in or related to Canada is suddenly the least bit relevant? Hopefully my "back" button will restore order and take me to the rightful world where no one (even Canadians) gives a fuck about the land of maple and funny modes of speech that functions as my geographic hat.

Let's have another top 10 lists. Top 10 NBA players (past and present) who I resemble. WNBA players are not allowed in this list.

It's pretty clear that MIT has more socially adept and attractive people than Caltech, and they are far better at sports and probably at say, life. Caltech has people with higher SAT scores and a harder core program (MIT people, does every one of you have to take quantum mechanics?) and has a higher percentage of people getting PhDs. Both require crazy hard work and make law school look like a cake walk.

1) U of Darfur
2) DeVry - Western New York Campus
3) McGill
4) Allegheny College
5) U of Flint
6) Venice Beach Institute of Technology
7) Washington University in E. St. Louis
8) Windsor
9) Tijuana U
10) Gaza Hebrew
11) Jimmy Carter A&M
12) Belfast Catholic
13) Trent
13) Lakehead
13) Brock
16) Tulane
17) Wu-Tang Slums of Shaolin Academy
18) Abercrombie University
19) Kissinger U
20) U of W Hollywood

well abovethelaw.com, you've been good to me over the weeks and months and i would just like to say thanks for all the support and well wishes (and job offers to my email address).

a week from tomorrow my mail merge goes out...i can only hope to get some interviews. i will be sure to keep you all updated on my successes and (more likely) failures.

i love you all (especially you elie)!!!

-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com

"It's pretty clear that MIT has more socially adept and attractive people than Caltech, and they are far better at sports and probably at say, life."

lol if this was in any way serious

but yeah, Princeton losing to Penn State and Columbia? What?

162 - genius. Numbers 7 and 12 are the best.

164, the Princeton explanation is that the survey is heavily biased toward larger schools / ones with lots of grad programs no matter how frivolous (ex, Cornell). Because international students make up such a larger proportion of grad students than undergrad students, the survey is inherently going to be titled that way,

This explains why Brown did extremely poorly, Dartmouth barely had a pulse, and liberal arts schools didn't appear in the rankings at all.

McGill ranked higher than UofT? Zoot alor!

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the best part is, however put "3. Cambridge [Harvard's on here twice. WooHoo!]" is probably from harvard... and the fact that they don't know that Cambridge is a separate university in England makes one wonder whether Harvard should be #1 on the list...

169 - "is probably from harvard?" Are you an Idiot? Look at the by-line moron. I hate ignorance, you make me sick.

The funny thing about the Cambridge/Harvard comments is that several posters accusing Elie of not knowing that Cambridge =/= Harvard actually think Cambridge is in London. Sigh.

-not elie

162, you forgot to include Bates College in that list - surely the most overrated institution om Earth.

The reason BU is 48 on the 'world' list and 60 on the US list is because half of Middle East aristocracy attend it. I live in a 'no students' building near BU, which is nevertheless populated by Saudi and Iranian undergrads who never seem to go to class, but do seem to drive their Bentley convertible / Maserati Quarttroporte / MB SL65AMG / Cayenne Turbo to Louis Boston / Saks / Barneys / Newbury Street / Copley Place / Natick Collectiom on a daily basis. That's why BU is ranked higher internationally. Fortunately, some of them are devastatingly attractive and fully adapted to Western conventions...

I think someone mixed up the blue and white laundry. Penn State at 105 versus Georgetown at 110. There has to be some reckless or wanton disregard for the truth there.

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The offending sentence reads: “and since Nohara's visa is valid all Mexican officials can do it wait for it to expire in early March.”

Now, since the AP is leaving their typos for us to correct, make sure you tell them to leave a note there about the correction.

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The only thing that was acurate about that website is that U Penn State was above Georgetown

Michigan over Tokyo FTW.

BU and their terrorist mafia cartel stink.

this is crap - Harvard #1, Columbia #10, but McGill only #20? everyone knows that Canadians are infinitely smarter than Americans (and the comments to this blog prove the point).

I'm studying at Trinity College Dublin and the whole place is a complete joke. have no idea how it ranks above any mediocre school in the states

These rankings are silly. There is no way that you can effectively compare and contrast every facet of these institutions in order to rate and rank them with any semblance of worth. The best a list like this could do would be to compare individual programs at universities so they could at least attempt to normalize the educational requirements and job prospects. For example, take University of Illinois Urbana Champaign and compare your average electrical engineering student to the same schools average history (for example) student. The EE kid is going to have tons of job prospects and a much more difficult course load taught by really talented professors. I'm not trying to put down history as a major, but the entrance requirement differential of UofI's engineering college vs. the rest of the university is rather staggering.

Harvard's overrated; they let in mentally challenged kids like Elie. Not that it isn't noble that they let kids like Elie feel like they are smart (just like the intelligent kids who are able to use proper grammar and spell check), but it still devalues the university.

I agree that they missed the boat by not including liberal arts schools. Additionally, I would like to add Davidson College for consideration. Not only do they have fantastic academics, but the community and sports make it a top notch school...on any ratings scheme.

Where is UPenn St on the list?

This is the dumbest thing I have every read. World rankings--and the rankings do not even track the regular US rankings?

Wonder how well U.Tokyo ranked for diversity.

Gimme a break.

Except for the stupid "employer review" category, Caltech would be #1.

Caltech is 1/10 the size of the rest, so many employers have not had much contact with alumni.

No doubt Caltech is the most elite of the bunch.

Amusing ranking. Oxford and Cambridge above any of the ivy league or MIT is a joke, right? The entry requirements for those schools are not even close to the US colleges. This is just another amusing ranking from people that could not even get into the schools they are judging.

Amusing ranking. Oxford and Cambridge above any of the ivy league or MIT is a joke, right? The entry requirements for those schools are not even close to the US colleges. This is just another amusing ranking from people that could not even get into the schools they are judging.

Columbia > Princeton. Yes!

What on Earth does "proportion of international faculty " or "proportion of international students" have to do with the quality of a school?

If the non-american u had all white American teachers and all white American students, then they would have 100% international students and 100% internationaly faculty.

What does this "international" inquiry have to do with anything?

No wonder the lists misplaces great schools like Princeton and UVA, and elevates average schools like BU and UCLA.

HofstraMagna-

My mother attended Stony Brook for undergrad back in the 60's. She found it to be an excellent school. The only thing she said she didn't like was when HofsTTTra students visited friends there, because they were a bunch of insecure toileteer moronic guidos.