Morgan Lewis Shaves Some Meat Off the Thelen Carcass
On Friday, while much of the Thelen news was still focused on Nixon Peabody feasting on Thelen refugees, we heard an interesting tip from people at Morgan Lewis:
I hear we have acquired all or most of Thelen’s corporate practice? I haven’t seen any official announcements but I hear that a couple floors below me is total chaos.
Mmmm … chaos.
Today we’ve gotten a (sadly) less chaotic number of new hires:
Morgan Lewis’s New York office picked up 17 attorneys from Thelen. An email was sent Friday.
But are they heavy hitters?
I am aware of a larger group that consists of the really big hitters at Thelen in the construction group. Dekker, Buoncristiani, Heisse et al with huge books of business for core clients like Bechtel. Pillsbury has extended an offer to all these people, included Counsel and associates for a total of about 45 attorneys for mainly the SF Office [Some in DC and NY]
Strangely, MLB has rebuffed repeated requests to confirm or deny how many Thelen people they are bringing on (if any).
But once again, Thelen-East attorneys seem to be doing a lot better than their West Coast brethren. On the flip side, this weekend in NYC was cold and miserable while I’m sure the Sun once again bestowed its light and grace upon Californians. So they have that going for them.
Earlier: Nixon Peabody Picks Up 90 Thelen Attorneys (This is Different From a Merger How?)
Associate Bonus Watch: Morgan Lewis Pushes Back Bonus Decisions
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First - first!!
MLB rocks. They are such jarvis probes.
Thirdsty for Bonus News!
*puts finishing touches on resume...stares in satisfaction*
-nervous T-10 1L
email job leads to nervoust101l@yahoo.com
Mystal: "Give me your lunch."
Lat: "No, get your own lunch."
Mystal: "I am warning you. I eat a lot of lunch. Give me your lunch."
Lat: "No. I am gay."
Mystal: "Oh"
"But once again, Thelen-East attorneys seem to be doing a lot better than their West Coast brethren."
What are you talkinbg about? Heise and Buoncristiani are in SF. And almost all of the lawyers picked by Nixon were in SF and SV. So how is it that "Thelen-East" attorneys are doing better that "Thelen-West" attorneys? I have not heard of anybody picking up large chunks of Thelen's NY or DC offices.
"On Friday, while much of the Thelen news was still FOCUS on Nixon Peabody feasting on Thelen refugees"
this post has been up for 15 minutes and there is still a typo in the very first sentence. nice proofreading. i wonder what's different about mystal that allowed such a poor writer with no ability to focus on details to get into harvard law? oh, nevermind. i remember now.
nervous: "give me a job"
Mystal: "no, get your own job"
nervous: "no one will hire me"
Mystal: "do you know how to make pies???"
nervous: "i can learn" *furiously adds pie making skills to resume*
Mystal: "hired"
Lat: "Mystttal! Why did you hire nervous for 3k/week"
Mystal: "uh-ohes, I'm in trouble" *scarfs down another pie*
can someone post a list of the Thelen attorneys MLB took on? I
. . . which is nice.
I had my offer rescinded by Morgan Lewis today.
Bechtel is a criminal organization.
maybe i've been influenced by all of the elie haters, but he definitely makes this blog considerably less enjoyable to read
-loyal reader
11 - for reals?
So are Haliburton and Blackwater, 12. I'd still love to handle their defense/investigation work: they have the biggest potential messes, and they have the money to pay well for making them go away.
They hired a bunch of attorneys that do M&A and Securities for energy companies.
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Yes. For Reals
-11
14-
Yes. For Reals
-11
14 -
No.
- 11
FYI--Was sunny in NorCal only on Sunday. Rained on Saturday. Take that, you shivering East Coasters!
Reger, Davidson, Hood, Reisler, O'Connor, Godlewski, Giblin, Churaman, Baker, Lasky, Goldberg, Kinney, Ross.
Mainly debt finance securities lawyers for utilities.
Not M&A types at all.
MysTTTal, why can you not do anything correctly the first time? Why can't you write at a basic high school level? Why must others constantly correct your lazy, inconsiderate ass?
You aren't dumb (though you aren't especially intelligent), you're something far worse: sloppy.
Notably left behind - Green, Jolles, Igoe
21- i count 13 on that list, are the 4 others associates?
24 - I believe so
SAVE ATL!!!!!!!!!!!
8,
Were you trying to be funny?
22: well said
27,
8 was hilarious.
-Not 8
Glascock????? Where are you buddy
list of attorneys going over to reed smith?
Full list of peeps joining MLB, courtesy of MLB (and no, this was not difficult to find, y'all):
http://www.morganlewis.com/index.cfm/newsID/f5f22e9a-8824-4c16-9cf9-560b19325838/fuseaction/news.detail
JT believes Morgan Lewis could take Georges St.-Pierre. JT thinks it would get into the third round without much fanfare, when suddenly, Morgan Lewis would utilize an unexpected maneuver for a take down and place GSP in a rear naked energy transactions practice group restructuring grapple.
So MLB didn't take the Thelen energy regulatory/FERC people? Any news on where they are going?
I'd like to see a list of all 600 Thelen lawyers, and see who ended up where and who is still unemployed.
"Morgan Lewis Shaves Some Meat Off the Thelen Carcass" . . . probably the best title I've read on here in a while. Nice, stark imagery, that was pretty good, Elie (the rest of your writing sucks, but credit where it's due).
Maybe "Thelen: Morgan Lewis Shaves Some Meat Off the Carcass" would have been better, though.
11, from what office and practice group did you have an offer?
35: recruiter too lazy to do his/her own work. That's why other headhunters are ahead of you. Good luck catching up.
Former Thelen partner Tom Glascock (aka Glass Cock) here, saying "WOW" to the MLB press release linked to above. Lots of current Thelen partners were brought over as counsel, and they weren't Thelen junior partners either.
39 - luckily MLB figured out who was dead-weight, in order to avoid Thelen's fate.
how many energy attorneys are expected to join Reed Smith?
13 partners and only four associates? That is pretty meager. Would have thought Saint Bob Reger, SJ, could have done better than that.
TTT Holland & Knight fall apart yet?
Wow indeed, Mr. Glass Cock, it's tough to believe that a junior partner like Giblin or Walter G would get a better deal than a very experienced senior partner like Kinney.
37 -
I already said my first post was a lie.
- 11
They nabbed Godlewski! Whoa. Boies and Sullivan must be next.
Milbank = stealth layoff capital of NYC.
Jarvis Probes rescinded my offer from Morgan Lewis today.
- CLS 2L
Thank you #32.
Now I see the highly esteemed 1/3 of Thelen's official dissolution committee, none other than Doug Davidson, is abandoning ship. Does.this mean you are starting after the dissolution of Thelen is over or NOW?
These mutherfucking bastards are full of shit. WE GET A DEFECTIVE WARN ACT FOR 1/2 OF WHAT IS LEGALLY DUE US, NO SEVERANCE PAY, NO COBRA, AND THE BASTARDS ARE ALSO BREAKING THE COCKSUCKING LAW BY REFUSING TO PAY US OUR ACCRUED VACATION TIME. I SHOULD HAVE FUCKING TAKEN A NICE VACATION THIS SUMMER BUT NO TOO STUPID. I WANT MY FUCKING VACATION MONEY AT LEAST YOU BASTARDS. What is going to happen? Will all the partners left do a disappearing act AND FUCK US OVER ON OUR PITIFUL MEASLY VACATION THAT IS OWED US BY LAW and blame it on Citibank? You pieces of total and absolute shit better pay us what you owe us by the mutherfucking law. You are a goddamn law firm for crying out loud and you won't even obey the fucking law. We know all your fucking names bastards and can put them down on a lawsuit or do a people find and talk to all you pieces of absolute shit in person about what you fucking owe us. The party is over. Pay us our fucking accrued vacation time at least. Believe me you all won like you usually do and kept the people who actually do the work in the firm in the dark as much as possible. Yeah right you "wish to pay us 60 days' according to the WARN Act" and you "wish to pay us our accrued vacation pay" but big bad Citibank won't let you. Fuckers take it out of your own accounts because you owe it to us BY THE FUCKING LAW OF THE USA. Don't think you will get away with it because you are rich partners and can weasel your way around the law.
Thank you #32.
Now I see the highly esteemed 1/3 of Thelen's official dissolution committee, none other than Doug Davidson, is abandoning ship. Does.this mean you are starting after the dissolution of Thelen is over or are you moving on NOW and screw Thelen?
These mutherfucking bastards are full of shit. WE GET A DEFECTIVE WARN ACT FOR 1/2 OF WHAT IS LEGALLY DUE US, NO SEVERANCE PAY, NO COBRA, AND THE BASTARDS ARE ALSO BREAKING THE COCKSUCKING LAW BY REFUSING TO PAY US OUR ACCRUED VACATION TIME. I SHOULD HAVE FUCKING TAKEN A NICE VACATION THIS SUMMER BUT NO TOO STUPID. I WANT MY FUCKING VACATION MONEY AT LEAST YOU BASTARDS. What is going to happen? Will all the partners left do a disappearing act AND FUCK US OVER ON OUR PITIFUL MEASLY VACATION THAT IS OWED US BY LAW and blame it on Citibank? You pieces of total and absolute shit better pay us what you owe us by the mutherfucking law. You are a goddamn law firm for crying out loud and you won't even obey the fucking law. We know all your fucking names bastards and can put them down on a lawsuit or do a people find and talk to all you pieces of absolute shit in person about what you fucking owe us. The party is over. Pay us our fucking accrued vacation time at least. Believe me you all won like you usually do and kept the people who actually do the work in the firm in the dark as much as possible. Yeah right you "wish to pay us 60 days' according to the WARN Act" and you "wish to pay us our accrued vacation pay" but big bad Citibank won't let you. Fuckers take it out of your own accounts because you owe it to us BY THE FUCKING LAW OF THE USA. Don't think you will get away with it because you are rich partners and think you can weasel your way around the law. YOU WILL BE PROVEN ABSOLUTELY 100% DEAD WRONG ON THAT ACCOUNT so stop fooling around and pay up peacefully. We know all your fucking names and we know how to write them down on a fucking lawsuit. Next summer we will be riding around on YOUR yachts bitches from Hell. Speaking of Hell, Heller taught us a thing or two about how the likes of you operate. Now pay the fuck up deadbeats unless you want us on your block shaking our tin cups in your neighbor's faces because you put the Firm out of business.
Sample sandwich board sign to go with tin cup:
Partner ______ screwed all his/her employees by being incompetent and impotent and letting the Firm go out of business and WORSE, WILLFULLY BROKE NUMEROUS FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS BY NOT PAYING EMPLOYEES WHAT S/HE LEGALLY OWES THEM AND DID THIS ALL RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS. SOME FREAKING RESPECTED ATTORNEY AND "PARTNER." ARE YOU GOING TO HIS/HER HOLIDAY PARTY? DID YOU INVITE HIM/HER TO YOURS? Rethink that pronto.
Throw the bum and family out of your co-op or who knows what s/he will do to your building!
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I know I won't get shit in the tin cup but at least it will give their neighbors another reason to sneer at them.
On the other hand, IF I GOT MY FUCKING VACATION PAY I would go on vacation and be too far away to bother them! Hint hint motherfuckers. You will pay. Do it sooner rather than later.
PS: Elie, hire me as a trainee. Can't you see I am a great writer? I need a new fucking career. BIGLAW sucks the big one!
PS to 51: Not a lawyer; just led astray by them into thinking being involved in BIGLAW was a good career choice.
Gentlemen at the preparatory acadamy with which I was affiliated did, from time to time, when confronted with the slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune at the hands blue-blooded cads, exclaim in excited utterances that such cads would not, over the dead carcasses of said acadamy gentlemen, enjoy the fruits of the subject heinous conduct, as such wronged gentlemen would persist, in a seemingly endless fashion, in disturbing the peace by clanking dirty tin cans against the bronzed fences of their former benefactors, whilst screeching, in the night's pitiless ears, "payeth me now, or I shall wound you as if you were a motherhumping moose in the Alaskan wilds, and I your hunter, sir!" Such conduct occasioned no real surprise.
53 --- you trying to steal my possible job as Elie's apprentice with your fancy writing, bitch????? I need the goddamn job so butt out!
Elie you don't want this bs artist number 53! I can GUARANTEE you mutherfucking headlines like the NY POST!!!! THE NY POST, ELIE! HEADLINES SO FUCKING GOOD THAT PEOPLE WILL PAY TO BUY A FUCKING COFFEE MUG WITH THE HEADLINE ON IT. I am sure you remember HEADLESS BODY FOUND IN TOPLESS BAR!
And I noticed, you like "i can haz cheezburger!" Fuck I can take pics of smirky looking cats AND WRITE THE FUCKING COPY just as good as those guys!
My final offer, Elie, is shame those motherfucking partners at THELEN to pay at least our FUCKING ACCRUED VACATION TIME and I will stop stalking you.
Davidson should not have agreed to be on liquidation committee if he was not committed to staying to the end. What a clown.
Reger took care of his core - no more.
Good thing MLB didn't take Igoe, Jolles or Green.
MLB still took some light weights, but they'll be weeded out over a year or two.
Don't think for a moment that partners who land elsewhere will be taking home the same draw from their new firm as at Thelen. There will be a significant blow. As witnessed by MLB's hires, a partner at Thelen is often not worth more than senior counsel at another firm. Certain associates are also simillarly adjusted in pay, if not in seniority.
so where is the list of those going to Nixon or to Reed Smith?
Davidson gives new meaning to the words "useless functionary". To suggest he is a clown would mean that he's funny or entertaining.... nothing of the sort. He represents all that was wrong with Thelen.
any info on MLB's Princeton Office?
55, what's wrong with Green or Igoe? Jolles is sort of retired already and perhaps even Igoe is in that direction. But Green is a very good lawyer, even if he is a lot like Elie in his Harvard elitist view of the rest of the world.
I agree - Dick Green is an excellent lawyer. Like most lawyers, he is a little quirky, but he knows his stuff.
Re: Green -- There must be a reason everyone is leaving him behind.
FICTIONAL MEMO TO THELEN STAFF:
To: Beasts of Burden
CC: Any Associate Flotsam & Jetsam that may still be floating around the office
From: Dissolution Committee
Re: Surprise!
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We have noticed that with the Partners running for the hills, many of you are sitting around with your thumbs up your asses because you have no work.
Therefore, we have decided to emulate Heller and toss you all out BEFORE the already too short notice on the WARN Act we gave you.
You can get going as of the end of this pay period, November 15, NOT as stated in the WARN Act notice, which was November 30.
HOWEVER, we will toss you a bone. Since we told you that Citibank has funded payroll until November 30, those of you that have accrued vacation will be paid for whatever fits in the November 16-30 pay period. If you have more accrued vacation than that, you will have to wait, most likely until Hell freezes over.
Happy TTThanksgiving!
PS: To the staff member who has acquired a potato cannon off craigslist, please cease and desist your plans to use it to attack my co-op board's president's Bentley and then to leaflet my building with your complaints of my lawlessness! The old biddy doesn't like me already because she was born into money and never had to work and I am an attorney, just a working stiff to her! Don't make a Partner and his family face homelessness around the holidays!
END OF FICTIONAL MEMO TO THELEN STAFF
FICTIONAL MEMO TO THELEN STAFF:
To: Beasts of Burden
CC: Any Associate Flotsam & Jetsam that may still be floating around the office
From: Dissolution Committee
Re: Surprise!
***************
We have noticed that with the Partners running for the hills, many of you are sitting around with your thumbs up your asses because you have no work.
Therefore, we have decided to emulate Heller and toss you all out BEFORE the already too short notice on the WARN Act we gave you.
You can get going as of the end of this pay period, November 15, NOT as stated in the WARN Act notice, which was November 30.
HOWEVER, we will toss you a bone. Since we told you that Citibank has funded payroll until November 30, those of you that have accrued vacation will be paid for whatever fits in the November 16-30 pay period. If you have more accrued vacation than that, you will have to wait, most likely until Hell freezes over.
Happy TTThanksgiving!
PS: Happy now? To the staff member who has acquired a potato cannon off craigslist, please cease and desist your plans to use it to attack my co-op board's president's Bentley and then to leaflet my building with your complaints of my lawlessness! The old biddy doesn't like me already because she was born into money and never had to work and I am an attorney, just a working stiff to her! Don't make a Partner and his family face homelessness around the holidays!
END OF FICTIONAL MEMO TO THELEN STAFF
Bastier team announced at Reed Smith yesterday
It's interesting how efficiently the market really separated the wheat from the chaff amongst the Thelen lawyers: Who wound up where in the hierarchy of (listed alphabetically) Howrey, MLB, Nixon, Orrick, Pillsbury, Reed Smith...
And not to speak of those still waiting to be picked up.
66, that ranking would be from top to bottom Orrick, MLB, Pillsbury, Nixon, Reed Smith, Howrey. Observe that no Thelen lawyer was top 25 (or even top 35)material, and so much for the much vaunted contruction litigation practice, winding up at Howrey. Since Howrey is still higher ranked than Thelen, those remaining Thelen lawyers that were dragging down the others must be really mediocre.
who went to pillsbury?
it's more nice to see the deadweight partners only getting "counsel" positions.
it will be even more nice to see when the new firms keep the rainmakers and kick out the deadweight in a year or two.