Grade Reform at USC Gould School Of Law: Here's a Free .1
At least the USC Gould School of Law is being relatively honest. According to the administration, USC students do not get grades on par with students at peer institutions. This hurts USC students in the job market. The most simple way to fix this discrepancy is to just give everybody at USC Law an extra boost to their GPA.
You think it can't possibly be that simple? Here is the grade reform proposal that USC faculty and student representatives will be voting on, on December 11th:
Proposed Revision:Under the current grading curve, the average grade in each first-year course is set at 3.2. Under the Dean's proposal, the average grade in each first-year course would be set at 3.3 rather than at 3.2. The effect of this change would be to raise each first-year grade by .1. For example, a student who would have earned a grade of 3.2 in Torts under the current grading curve would instead earn a grade of 3.3. Similarly, a student whose year-end GPA under the current grading curve would be a 3.2 would instead have a year-end GPA of 3.3.
I don't see why a major law school would admit that their grading system was a joke that they came up with out of a hat, but there you go. Free points for everybody, because halfway through the 2008/2009 school year USC decided that law school was just too damn hard.
USC's justifications and rationalizations after the jump.
Even the school's stated reasons for this version of grade cheating reform make it clear that the motivation behind this proposal is simply to change employer's perception of USC students:
Considerations Prompting the Proposal:* The quality of students at USC law school has risen dramatically in the last decade. Nonetheless our grade curve has not changed to reflect this improvement.
* Our first-year grades and first-year GPAs appear to be lower than those at our peer schools which likely harms some of our students' job prospects.
* Several of our peer schools, notably including UCLA, have recently revised their own grading curves upward to reflect current quality of the student body.
* If we are going to revise our grading curve in response to these concerns, the current difficulties in the economy make it desirable for us to implement the revision in the current year, rather than waiting for the next academic year.
Looking at the first and second reasons together is just classic. "We're a much better school than we used to be. We have no evidence for this statement, but we are, trust us. In fact, we're so much better that our students should no longer be held to a rigorous standard. We rock!"
The third reason is hilarious because they're trying to use UCLA as cover. Can't you imagine UCLA football saying "USC has won all these championships, but our football program is as good as theirs. So, we just made up a PAC-10 trophy and stuck it in our trophy case. Everybody wins!"
But the fourth reason, that my friends is the rug that ties the room together. Because when you break that one down you get a real honest statement about how the USC brain trust is feeling just at the moment. They are basically telling everybody "look, the economy is in the toilet and we just can't get our students jobs right now. We're scared and they're terrified. So, we thought that if we gave them an extra .1, it might help. Really, we're out of options at this point."
Pedagogical excellence at its finest.
If the move helps additional students land jobs, I suppose it's a move that USC has to make. But one would think that there has to be a better way than just handing out a better GPA just for the sake of handing out better GPAs.
Maybe it will help, unless of course employers figure out that every USC Law transcript is artificially inflated to reflect the current down market.
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(272) Comments
stupidest idea ever
second?
why not add 0.3? Why 0.1?!?!?!
is 0.1 even enough?
Hate to break to USC but its the name on your degree that's hurting you in the job market, not that .1 GPA difference.
*This just in*
GW sees USC's .1 and raises them 50 basis points.
Two can play at this game (or 180).
Morons.
USC Sucks.
That's right Dude; they pee on your fucking Rug.
Sure, it's a dumb-sounding idea, but it might actually have a reasonable effect, especially for those at the borderline of say 3.5 or 3.6. An extra 0.1 (on average) makes them look much better. Unless you're talking about a firm that has strict GPA cutoffs, you'd imagine that there's a fair amount of eyeballing / estimating that takes place when firms decide whether to extend a callback or not. No matter how stupid it might sound, there's a definite psychological advantage to a 3.7 over a 3.6 or a 3.6 over a 3.5.
Lastly, the only schools that have horribly deflated GPA curves are usually the bottom-tier law schools, which need to distinguish their few stars from the rest of their class. USC might not be great, but it's not quite a Widener or Appalachian either.
Can't spell SUCKS without U-S-C
"I go to USC" is law student speak for "I couldn't get into a T14."
You're right, the thousands of USC Law grad partners at top firms that fuck your girlfriends while you're reviewing documents are hurt by having USC on their resumes.
That having been said, at least SC finally has a four point scale. The old 90 point scale was utterly ridiculous, and definitely required some splainin at call-backs.
10: Sounds about right to me, but I thought that was more Texas or soon to be, GULC.
10 - BS, if you want to be in CA, specifically LA, USC is better than several T14s.
Unnecessary. The law firm scouts should know that median kids at Gould could star on any other school's law review. Remember that year they had two Supreme Court clerks on the same masthead?
This is retarded. My school's policy was that the average grade is a 3.17. USC sucks ass and that is why they get shat on by the BCS
Frankly, I prefer the average USC law student to the average UCLA student. After interacting with students from both schools, I have found the UCLA students to be socially awkward and difficult to work with; worse, some seem to struggle with basic legal research skills.
It definitely makes sense for USC to adjust their grading scale to match peer schools.
Someone's grading policy got Juiced!
Would anyone recommend BigLaw if they had to do it all over again?
Good god, this is poorly written.
Let’s all rip USC to help overcome our own insecurities! Some of you need to realize that USC grads work in the same office, for the same hours, and the same pay as you. And that burns you deep down.
- Not a USC alum
Frankly, I prefer the average [ ] law student to the average [ ] student. After interacting with students from both schools, I have found the [ ] students to be socially awkward and difficult to work with; worse, some seem to struggle with basic legal research skills.
Why hasn't USC's grading policy fallen in line with other peer schools like Peoples College of Law and Golden Gate?
Is this how USC got ranked so high in the BCS too?
Who knew so many USC law students read ATL.
This is a joke. Keep some standards.
Isn't the whole point of reporting class ranks that ranks permit firms to compare students from School X where the average GPA is 3.16 with students at School Y where the average GPA is 3.29?
One of the most prominent law schools in the country, USC Law offers a forward-looking, interdisciplinary legal education guided by nationally renowned professors and informed by the diversity of a friendly and collegial student body.
Our speakers go up to 11!
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27: I want to live in one of the largest and most dynamic cities in the world and attend a school that offers myriad opportunities to apply the law to real-world problems through partnerships with some of the world's leading companies and law firms. Would Gould offer this as well?
It isn't going to matter. Even is USC doesn't rank, I'm sure it releases its 50% GPA and 25% GPA. Firms' "grade cut-offs" are merely markers for their estimated class rank cut-offs. So, firms will just ass this 0.1 to their requirements for USC and this whole thing won't matter.
So. Fucking. Stupid.
I thought only Cravath got to ass things.
Well, how do you think UCLA got to their current GPA? I doubt it's been that way for decades.
GPAs are arbitrary numbers anyway.
That said, their system proposal should be quickly seen as flawed mathematically. I'd hate to be a 2L or a 3L at USC!
@31
USC only releases the Top 10% cut off.
You know what really hurts USC students in the job market? The fact that they went to USC. Maybe if they had gone to a real law school rather than a joke for rich kids they wouldn't have such troubles.
Great idea, terrible post.
(35- come up with an original comment, dummy.)
USC undergrad is a cesspool of entitled and marginally intelligent rich white kids.
1. The USC change in grading is dumb.
2. If you want to compare students from different schools, do so by looking at the school's US News rank and the student's class rank. It isn't rocket science. If you're torn between two candidates from different schools and you are comparing their respective GPAs, then you are a moron.
11 = unemployed USC 2L.
What a joke of a school.
38 - only TTTs rank.
37 -- when was the last time you were on campus? 1985?
In light of this move by USC, I think Wayne State's new pass/pass system deserves some consideration - http://tinyurl.com/57lzqq
Wow, a lot of these comments are really hilarious.
"George is getting angry!!!"
Who gives a shit about any of this, stop measuring your abilities by the institution you attend and work towards the career you want. This is the nerd version of penis measuring.
41 -- when was the last time you had brie without chablis?
44 - when was the last time you got the beans above the frank?
I know it's pointless to argue with you all about this but it'll make me feel better.
As a first-generation, low-income alumni of both USC undergrad and USC Law I hate hearing the "spoiled children" stereotype. I got through both undergrad and Law on a ton of scholarships - and I'm not the only one. I have a job at a large Los Angeles firm that I got partly because I went to USC Law.
So, say what you want (and I know you will) but USC Law is the most diverse top 20 law school and there are scholarships for those who don't have a mommy and daddy who can pay for everything.
Personally, I'm a bit peeved at this whole grade reform bit as my GPA will seem lower in future years, but whatever. In the almost ten years since I've graduated, I've never had a problem getting a job and I often get interviews and offers because the interviewer is a USC alum.
34- Wouldn't releasing more cutoffs be an easier solution to the problem (not to mention the fact that it wouldn't hurt alums like 46)?
lol @ 43
Apparently the first rule of grade inflation is you don't talk about grade inflation. My T14 has a 3.3 median. They didn't have it 20 years ago and yet never got bashed for the change. What's the median at the T15-20? If it's a 3.3 then this makes sense at the margins.
Wow 46, I really like that USC Law is the most diverse of the nation's top law schools, because the diversity of experiences and ideas among students enriches the overall educational experience by providing new, broad perspectives on the law and its effects on diverse communities and professions.
"my T14 school".... hahaha just come out and tell us the school you attend, you transparent twats.
"The quality of students at USC law school has risen dramatically in the last decade. Nonetheless our grade curve has not changed to reflect this improvement."
Maybe because its a . . . . wait for this . . . . its a CURVE????
Elie you moron, what a stupid analogy
"The third reason is hilarious because they're trying to use UCLA as cover. Can't you imagine UCLA football saying "USC has won all these championships, but our football program is as good as theirs. So, we just made up a PAC-10 trophy and stuck it in our trophy case. Everybody wins!"
USC and UCLA for the most part compete for the same jobs. UCLA curves at 3.3, USC curved at 3.2. Fact is this made USC students look worse, so now USC curves at 3.3 also. How in the hell is this like UCLA making up a Pac-10 trophy? A reasonable analogy would be like Utah joining the Pac 10 so as to get as much credit for wins as USC, not to make up champions you dumb fat bastard.
Elie you moron, what a stupid analogy
"The third reason is hilarious because they're trying to use UCLA as cover. Can't you imagine UCLA football saying "USC has won all these championships, but our football program is as good as theirs. So, we just made up a PAC-10 trophy and stuck it in our trophy case. Everybody wins!"
USC and UCLA for the most part compete for the same jobs. UCLA curves at 3.3, USC curved at 3.2. Fact is this made USC students look worse, so now USC curves at 3.3 also. How in the hell is this like UCLA making up a Pac-10 trophy? A reasonable analogy would be like Utah joining the Pac 10 so as to get as much credit for wins as USC, not to make up champions you dumb fat bastard.
Serious question. Why do Elie's posts sound so bitter and angry of late?
The lighthearted, sympathetic, sarcasm of six weeks ago is gone. Now Elie is just mean, mean, mean. Is this what we've done to him? Is this what he thinks we want?
Elie you moron, what a stupid analogy
"The third reason is hilarious because they're trying to use UCLA as cover. Can't you imagine UCLA football saying "USC has won all these championships, but our football program is as good as theirs. So, we just made up a PAC-10 trophy and stuck it in our trophy case. Everybody wins!"
USC and UCLA for the most part compete for the same jobs. UCLA curves at 3.3, USC curved at 3.2. Fact is this made USC students look worse, so now USC curves at 3.3 also. How in the hell is this like UCLA making up a Pac-10 trophy? A reasonable analogy would be like Utah joining the Pac 10 so as to get as much credit for wins as USC, not to make up champions you dumb fat bastard.
Jeez, I never knew so many USC students read this site. I guess when you have T14 envy...
Elie you moron, what a stupid analogy
"The third reason is hilarious because they're trying to use UCLA as cover. Can't you imagine UCLA football saying "USC has won all these championships, but our football program is as good as theirs. So, we just made up a PAC-10 trophy and stuck it in our trophy case. Everybody wins!"
USC and UCLA for the most part compete for the same jobs. UCLA curves at 3.3, USC curved at 3.2. Fact is this made USC students look worse, so now USC curves at 3.3 also. How in the hell is this like UCLA making up a Pac-10 trophy? A reasonable analogy would be like Utah joining the Pac 10 so as to get as much credit for wins as USC, not to make up champions you dumb fat bastard.
First of all, I wanna thank God for giving everybody so much, and me, so little. I hate you, I hate you, and I don't even know you and I hate your guts. I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else, but you. And as I stand here sippin' the soda that I'm sure somebody spit in, I just wanna say yall can kiss my ass you rotten motha-fuckas. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go home and put some water in Buck Nasty's momma's dish. Good evenin'!
56, Elie's analogy is actually acceptable. Affirmative action beneficiaries can make analogies that are three times worse than those of regular people.
Why don't you tell me 51 since it's so transparent. The point was that higher ranked schools have engaged in the same process. What's the difference?
53, 54, 56, 58: you moron, you only have to hit "Post Comment" once. You dumb bastard.
Ahaha #59, you rule.
Good job SouTTThern Cal. This will certainly help your GW / BU / UNC Chapel Hill "second best in town" complex.
49, you nailed it. peer schools curve at 3.3, so it made sense to do this.
Ahaha #59, you rule.
Q: "Why don't you tell me 51 since it's so transparent. The point was that higher ranked schools have engaged in the same process. What's the difference?"
A: "George is getting angry!!!"
Q: "Why don't you tell me 51 since it's so transparent. The point was that higher ranked schools have engaged in the same process. What's the difference?"
A: "George is getting angry!!!"
Q: "Why don't you tell me 51 since it's so transparent. The point was that higher ranked schools have engaged in the same process. What's the difference?"
A: "George is getting angry!!!"
TRIPLE POST!!!!
52 = funniest comment of the day!!!!!!!
This kind of thing pisses recruiters off. They know that GPAs from each school vary. They set their cutoffs accordingly. So next year, when a firm walks in with the same 3.5 cutoff as before, they're going to be pissed when floods of true 3.4s think they've got a shot.
It's just piss-poor excuses from the administration to think that raising the boats is the best way to make students shine. No, it doesn't. We "get" it. We know what a 6.2 from Harvard means, and what a 177 from Chicago means. In fact, the recruiters for USC are probably USC alumni who know what the curve looks like, know what's a "good" GPA, and hire accordingly. I don't know any recruiters who go to a tier-one school without a working familiarity of good/bad GPAs, relative to that school.
Fiddling while Rome burns, I guess.
Someone link to goatse and complete the Nerd Circle.
Why is Elie so upset over this? All the grammar checks and jabs taking their toll? What a sour tone, almost like reading feministe.com
"Where I go to school, as illustrated by the comments I leave on Above the Law."
35: clearly an East-Coast (Yale) snob of the highest order or a Boalt Hall snob. Either way, you don't even remember what a grade looks like due to your own overly-generous grading policy. Get over the "proud history of your school" and realize that 1) Yale is in the armpit of Connecticut and produced Clarence Thomas and; 2) UC-Berkeley s in the armpit of the Bay Area and gave us some dirty hippies.
23: The BCS, like any median GPA at a school that institutes a grading curve, is decided by both computers and people and is equally arbitrary. My guess is that you go to Boise State Law School or Ball State Law School. Maybe you even go to BYU and plan on starting a family law practice focusing on polygamist custody battles over child brides. Quit reading ATL and hit the books a little harder so you have time to watch your team in the KFC-failure-pile-in-a-sadness Bowl.
15. I'll bet money that you go to UT-Austin because only a person still reveling in Vince Young's last good game ever would write that. Your school is more white-bread than a Duke Lacrosse egg-salad-sandwich-eating-and-stripper-assault party. I bet your school makes bathtub gin and plays in a jug band on the weekend.
3. You clearly go to UCLA. You are clearly at the UCLA-mandated 3.3 median. You are clearly upset that I, and now everyone else on this blog, knows that.
"Where I go to school, as illustrated by the comments I leave on Above the Law."
35: clearly an East-Coast (Yale) snob of the highest order or a Boalt Hall snob. Either way, you don't even remember what a grade looks like due to your own overly-generous grading policy. Get over the "proud history of your school" and realize that 1) Yale is in the armpit of Connecticut and produced Clarence Thomas and; 2) UC-Berkeley s in the armpit of the Bay Area and gave us some dirty hippies.
23: The BCS, like any median GPA at a school that institutes a grading curve, is decided by both computers and people and is equally arbitrary. My guess is that you go to Boise State Law School or Ball State Law School. Maybe you even go to BYU and plan on starting a family law practice focusing on polygamist custody battles over child brides. Quit reading ATL and hit the books a little harder so you have time to watch your team in the KFC-failure-pile-in-a-sadness Bowl.
15. I'll bet money that you go to UT-Austin because only a person still reveling in Vince Young's last good game ever would write that. Your school is more white-bread than a Duke Lacrosse egg-salad-sandwich-eating-and-stripper-assault party. I bet your school makes bathtub gin and plays in a jug band on the weekend.
3. You clearly go to UCLA. You are clearly at the UCLA-mandated 3.3 median. You are clearly upset that I, and now everyone else on this blog, knows that.
harvard to move from pass-fail to superpass-sorta pass
75 you sound like a smart kid, probably Irish and short in stature.
USC students smell like poop. In addition their facilities suck sweaty balls.
75/76:
I'll bet you are from Twin Falls, Idaho. Your mother was a seamstress and your father a bank teller. At the age of 12, you broke your arm. You went to high school in Portland, Oregon before attending the University of Arizona for undergrad. You are exactly 24.5 years old.
Look, making batshit insane guesses that are probably way off the mark are fun!
It's a shame that Rasmussen is doing this.
He had a good reputation at Vanderbilt (BTW- Vandy has a 3.1 1L curve). Sad to see him so shamelessly sell out in an attempt to bolster the credibility of USC in such a crap manner
80, you have no idea what you are doing by anonymously going after 75/76...
He and I will literally come to your home and beat you with a mackerel, fished only this morning.
82, I'm sure you won't do it personally when you could probably get your butler to do it.
83, is that tired old "USC Students are rich" all you can come up with?? Really???
Seriously, what a horrible insult. If it were true, I bet it would really hurt. "Wow, I sure am rich.. :-[ Time to go hang myself..."
Creative shot, Mr. Burns...
46- you never had trouble getting a job because you are a URM parasite off of dumb people's guilt
Lat would never report the news in such a bitter spiteful way. The ATL crowd is ready to jump ship, we just need a good alternative site to forward news etc.
You'd think such an easy job could be handled a little better. All Elie has to do is sit in a comfy couch, wait for news to roll, type CAREFULLY and slightly clever ways to report it and... voila! Job well done. But this seems unattainable
72: Even if attorneys coming to interview at a school have a "working familiarity of good/bad GPAs" at the school (which is a highly suspect assumption in a lot of situations), that doesn't account for the Lateral attorney seeking employment 3 years out. Bottom line, a 3.6 GPA looks a lot better than a 3.3 GPA, even if it doesn't change ones class rank at the time they were in school. The 3.6 GPA gets an interview, the 3.3 gets tossed in the trash.
Wow 85.
Really, just because 46 is not rich and white he/she couldn't have possibly, oh, I don't know, done well at a highly ranked undergraduate and law school and get a job because of merit along with the alumni network?
Stereotype much?
Dean didn't even send out the letter. He had Aly Parker the SBA president send it! She wrote she is "very, very pleased" in the e-mail. Barbie!
USC kids are all rich. BAMM!
UCLA kids are all asian. KABLAMMY!
Stanford kids are all ugly. ZOWIE!
Berkeley kids are all hippies. WHIP-POW!
Irish people drink a lot. BOOM.
Southwestern kids...um... go to school in Koreatown. TA-DOW HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW?
What is this, the white-collar-comedy tour? Are you Larry the billable-hour-guy?
Get 'er ding dang billed
I love that 85 assumes first-generation means non-white. There are plenty of low-income Caucasians who are the first in their families to attend college. I know many of them.
"I have lots of white friends..."
LOL at 2Ls at USC who have no job because they couldn't either 1) get into a T4 school or 2) get a 0.1 higher GPA.
- CLS 2L Stud
USC sucks. At life, at football, and at law.
Elie --
Why can't you just fucking report on a news story, and not add in your lame-ass editorializing? It's always stupid, senseless fluff. Until you can do it right (and make it free from silly grammar and spelling mistakes), omit it! Please! FOR THE LOVE OF ATL, STOP!
Student 1: "Hey man, ever seen a poor Caucasian? I heard there's one out in the woods"
Privileged Law Student: "You're lying!"
Wannabe-frat-boy law student: "Let's all go out into the woods to see him!"
Law Student who never had any friends in college:
"C'mon guys, let's go, I've never seen one before...."
Nervous home-schooled law student who wears a leather bomber jacket and penny loafers: "Oh, I don't know about this guys....Sounds dangerous"
[cut scene: three law students dressed in jeans and chuck taylors, carrying laptops and backpacks walking down a dirt road..
cue music: "Stand by Me"]
46-
Congrats on all your hard work. The bottom line is that you can still write a check to get your kids into USC undergrad, and probably USC law. There may be less of them, but douche bag trust fund babies still run the show at your alma mater. I would imagine they're no longer exclusively white, but douche bags nonetheless.
Give me a break. Law schools uniformly adhere to blind LSAT/GPA grids though grade curves vary by school department and major. Undergrad schools also have vast disparities in class-dropping policies so that nobody in some schools need ever suffer a C, D or F. Stanford or Brown anyone? This has been the subject of MSM reports over the years.
God forbid any lesser school join the Lake Wobegon school district of the Ivies and other assorted scams. The horror!
Most of you managed to get into law school without the wit necessary to appreciate the hilarity of Comment 97, a fact that should be shocking to me but isn't.
Hah ha ha Barbie! 89- she DOES look like Law School Barbie!
LOL at "CLS 2L Stud" who has AIDS and no SA offers.
- USC 3L Stud who bills hours at a V5 firm professionally fistfucking CLS 2L Stud's retarded mother.
101! I'd make her 'very very pleased'! Wooooo!
This post is mean--unnecessarily so. USC raised its median to be consistent with that of its cross-town rival and other peer institutions. So what? Get over it.
USC SBA Prez Aly Parker is hot, but pretty dumb for thinking this will help USC - U are SCrewed. Have fun explaining your GPAs after this, rich kids.
72 is spot-on. Employers know how the game works. All this crap about school-to-school GPA comparisons is absurd.
What's next, USC? PEANUTS and CHEESE for all your students -- just to make sure everything's all evened up?
It's not AboveTheLaw until someone breaks out the sexism.
102-
Is AIDS at USC as giant sized as it is in Texas?
-Kirk Herbstreit
I'm disappointed by ATL's Snarky commentary.
Do any other schools have better reasons for setting their curve where they set it?
USC should get rid of grades altogether to be more in line with its peer schools: Yale, Cal, and Stanford.
ATL has declined in this law student's esteem.
This ranking obsession has gone too far.
It's really great that you bring sexism/assumptions about people into this.
I know Aly Parker, many of her friends, and other students at USC Gould, and from what I have seen and heard she is a great leader and a very nice person.
This commentary about her and USC students is unnecessary and pointless.
101: Calling a tall blond woman "Barbie" is funny?! Really?! You are human paraquat.
I bet you also think mentioning that a fat guy with a white beard looks like Santa is funny too. Or calling a short guy an oompa loompa. You suck at life.
I bet you have the First Season of "Home Improvement" on dvd. You turd sandwich.
I bet this is the most entertaining thing you have done in your 1L/2L/3L year. You black-hole-of-fun.
Your collective lack of a normal sense of humor is astonishing. You should all be tucked away in a dark cave to bill hours until you don't need your eyes or ability to speak anymore; the legal equivalent of the worm people from the Descent.
I want to force-feed you all LSD-25 until you develop normal human personalities. Asphinctersayswhat?
"Law stud" -- a law student that bangs horse-faced female law students.
106: The fact that you think Partners/Associates on hiring committees actually take the time, have the time, or even have the inclination to learn schools' grading systems is hillarious.
... "Home Improvement" was awesome.
"most simple" ? Elie - you're undoing grammatically all the good Jared did for Subway visually. Isn't this blog well enough off to provide you with a copy editor?
how is adding .1 any worse then changing to an all out pass/fail system, at least USC still gives real grades, and btw Los Angeles is the biggest legal market in the United State and USC is not a bad place to enter into it.
Bashing Aly is going too far. She is one of the smartest, most diplomatic, and inclusive students at USC Law. Students have been begging for some sort of grade reform and the fact that she helped bring it about (and yes, she did help) shows just what a great leader she is.
has atl replaced xoxohth.com?
There's a lot of diversity at USC. I drive a Mercedez. My friend drives a BMW. My other friend drives a Jaguar. Heck, we even have people that drive Vipers and Aston Martins! How dare you call us non-diverse!
Where can I find a pic of Aly Parker?
116: "how is adding .1 any worse then changing to an all out pass/fail system . . . ."
No matter how many .1s you add onto your GPA, it will never make up for your ignorance on the difference between "then" and "than."
i wish my school would do this. If nothing else, it would at least help me feel better about having only one testicle.
I'll second 121.
1) Raising it .1 is as arbitrary as being proud of yourself for being in the top-14 law school in the country (but if US News says it, it must be true). Maybe we should make it T-8 or T-16, but that wouldn't make as much sense as T14.
2) Most of you T-14 nerds don't even get grades at all, so chill out. Perhaps you're concerned SC personality + a .1 higher GPA = less offers for you? If so, I honestly pity your insecurities as I am confident they extend into all facets of your lives.
Who in the world would want to go to a school with these chicks?
http://www.trojanwire.com/football/usc-2-hottest-student-body.php
-Yale (aka 'gay harvard') 2L
120 - Have you ever heard of the google and its image search? Your research skills are TTT.
Google "Aly Parker USC Law." There is a pic of her on the website. She is way hotter in real life. I'm trying to find a pic of when she used to model - they said she used to model when she spoke to us USC 1Ls at the beginning of the year.
PS She is hella cool too - her speech was about baseball!
Elie's inability to grasp simple concepts (not to mention simple grammar) is fascinating:
"Free points for everybody, because halfway through the 2008/2009 school year USC decided that law school was just too damn hard."
"Even the school's stated reasons for this version of grade cheating..."
"Can't [sic] you imagine UCLA football saying "USC has won all these championships, but our football program is as good as theirs. So, we just made up a PAC-10 trophy and stuck it in our trophy case. Everybody wins!"
Free points? Grade Cheating? Make-belief trophies? Really Elie? All that happened, far as I can tell (even though you did a decent job of burying it) is UCLA curves at 3.3, USC curves at 3.2. They adjusted their curve to match a peer school in a peer market. UCLA by no means has 'pac 10 trophies' and USC certainly doesn't have a bottom of the pac10 team. You're losing it.