Morning Docket 12.09.08
* No trial for you! New Hampshire’s Superior Court is shaving a month of jury trials off of next year’s calendar because of its budget crisis. [New York Times]
* 9/11 masterminds recant their guilty plea because they want the death penalty. [Washington Post]
* Los Angeles City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo is taking the leaders of L.A.’s largest gang to court. The twist? It’s a civil suit, seeking monetary damages on behalf of L.A. neighborhoods for “property damage, loss in property value, emotional distress, personal injury, medical expenses, and out-of-pocket expenses” [Los Angeles Times]
* Ten percent of UVA 2Ls have not found “summer internships” yet. Alumni suggest they head to Nashville or Denver. [Daily Progress]
* Embattled Ninth Circuit Chief Judge Alex Kozinski is getting media attention again, for raunchy, politically-incorrect joke round-ups e-mailed out to friends, colleagues, journalists, lawyers and judges. Sadly, we were not on the Easy Rider Gag List distribution list. The jokes are kinda hilarious. [San Jose Mercury News]
* Five Blackwater guards charged with murder in killings of Iraqis. [Boston Globe]




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twelve NAILED IT!
This is probably above your pay grade, Kash, but being indicted for "manslaughter" is a little different than being charged with "murder."
Hey 2, how about we go out, grab some sodas, then come back to my place to indulge in a little bit of hot steamy reciprocal trombone action? I don't know about you, but I feel like getting pure obscene up in this B.
Call me.
I'm wondering if Nervous still reads the thread and is considering applying to firms in Denver and Nashville
in a good year the bottom 10% of UVA could land summer gigs paying 3k a week?
Only 10 percent? Not bad.
Paul, Weiss has announced bonuses.
what happened to that nervous 1L clown?
Marc Dreier accused in massive hedge fund fraud.
"I'm here for the gang bang . . . " - Old School
They have jury trials in NH?
live free or die baby!
How many of that 10% is going the public interest route? lots of those jobs don't hire until spring.
Cut me, Mick, cut me!
Rocky Delsomething....
When Kash makes a mistake, she corrects it.
When Elie makes a mistake, he defensively posts in the comments about how he's right and then ignores everyone who tears him a new one. Elie, where in the NAWL survey does it say that second year male associates make more than second year female associates, as you asserted?
I don't understand this article.
http://www.elsblog.org/the_empirical_legal_studi/2008/04/large-law-firm.html
Only about 60% of the class at UVA goes NJ250. Most smaller firms and public interest groups don't hire until spring. How on earth is the writer getting 90% - does he mean 90% of those who were qualified for On-Grounds pre-screens and seeking big firm employment?
Federal judges from my high school used to send circulations of crude jokes to their friends as a means of staying in touch. It was no big deal.
liberals are such delicate flowers when it comes to un-PC humor, yet they passionately support the right to display "piss Christ" and burn the flag. someone needs to get their first amendment ducks in a row.
The Los Angeles law enforcement "leaders" have become a joke. The gang that they are suing is the "18th Street" gang -- a gang made up MOSTLY of illegal aliens.
The city has attracted these vermin by welcoming illegal immigration. It's as simple as that. Here's a better idea than a lawsuit:
* end Special Order 40 (sanctuary laws)
* demand that the Feds enforce our borders
* end all benefits to illegal aliens (drivers licenses, etc.)
* mandate E-Verify at all workplaces
* mandate 287(g) training statewide
* just say no to amnesty
That assumes we actually want to put a stop to these gangs, of course. Or we could just file lawsuits. Fun! :)
What a joke.
19: here's a better idea than a rant - take your meds.
16 - according to your math, only ~33% of yale grads go NJ250 as well.
http://www.law.com/pdf/nlj/regional_NY.pdf
90% does seem a little high for fall recruiting, but you've got to imagine a high percentage of folks that do clerkships/academia/business take SA positions.
UVA student here, I can verify that most of the 2Ls w/o jobs are those who were well below median. Some of them are my friends and I hope they find a job, but I cannot say that an employer in NYC, Wash, ATL (where most of them applied) would be expected to jump on someone with C's on their transcript IN THIS ECONOMY. Maybe last year, but less so now.
Also, a few people with better grades who are known for being terrible, terrible people continue to struggle
re: UVA - I find the 90% number very suspect as well. I was a UVA 2L in a really flush market ('00-'01), and I don't think that a full 90% of my classmates had committed to mid- to large-sized firms in the fall. Some had low grades and some just weren't going to summer jobs that hired in the fall. Even then, people with C's had trouble getting jobs.
But, I also find this idiotic: "Ryan Quillian, president of the law school’s Student Bar Association, said the law school didn’t expect the economy to impact their job search.
'This whole recession caught not only our law students and career services by surprise, but it was not foreseeable that the market would contract in the way it did,' Quillian said. 'I don’t think this was something that could be foreseen in August.'"
Maybe law students are too dumb to figure it out, but career services should have. Deal work started slowing in 2007 with the drying up of debt financing on deals. Deal work was noticably down everywhere by the first half of the year, and there were well-publicized lay-offs. If Career Services didn't sense some disruption was imminent, they weren't doing their jobs.
Nervous is clearly busy freaking out over his upcoming CivPro exam. He's gunning for a High Pass.
18 - why so serious?
24 - Nervous goes to UMich, which has letter grades.
19 - You forgot to add, THIS IS ARE COUNTRY!
"UVA student here" - HI ANDY
Umm brilliant idea to send them to Nashville, it's not like the market is FLOODED with equally qualified Vandy grads or UT grads with Nash connections. Idiots. Why would firms want a UVA grad when there's enough Vandy grads who want to stay in Nashville to fill the spots 3 times over?
23 - I think most UVA Law students can agree that the Career Services office is incredibly incompetent.
30 - Pretty sad, but pretty simple. UVA is ranked higher than Vandy.
32- I am going to bet you haven't job hunted in Nashville because that would not really figure in, especially with how few spots apart they are. You are better off with Nashville connections than with a school a few spots higher would be my conclusion from being there.
32 - Your bet would be correct. Why the hell would I (or anyone, for that matter) want to live in Nashville?
33 - Your bet would be correct. Why the hell would I (or anyone, for that matter) want to live in Nashville?
34/35 -- Simple: because it's awesome! Have you ever even visited Nashville? It has unbelievable music, art, restaurant, & cultural scenes; people are well-educated, friendly, and open-minded; the city is easy to navigate and beautiful! It's much better than nasty sprawling Atlanta (grew up there), and is not confined and limited to being a small college town, like Charlottesville (and the like). Come for a visit sometime; I promise you'll love it too!
p.s. No, I do not work for the Nashville Chamber of Commerce. I have no stake in Nashville; just love it!
I'm ultra-liberal, ultra-inclusive, pro-gay-rights, squeaky-clean, resume-padding Jew Yorker. God forbid anyone would want to live outside NYC! And all southerners are racist, unkempt, toothless, ignorant inbreds. They're barely human.
P.S. George W. Bush, George Bush, and Ronald Reagan are to blame for everything bad that has happened in the US since 1980. Except the Dennis Miller show, that's Bill O'Reilly's fault.
23: I think you're right.
27: You're a coward. If you want to talk shit about someone, you should do it to their face.