November MPRE Scores Are Available
If you were not sure if you correctly handled the daunting thought experiments posed by the MPRE, scores are available today.
Usually not passing the MPRE is a way to be ridiculed by your family and friends, without any lasting professional consequences. The same is probably true this year, but given the market we really hope everybody passed. You don’t want to give a firm any reason to fire you or rescind your offer.
Still, failure on the MPRE is something that can be easily remedied. Just put the pipe down before the test starts, and you should be fine next time.
Congratulations to those who met the minimum ethical standards for our upstanding profession.
Earlier: MPRE Results Are Out: Open Thread




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These motherfucking pretzels are making me thirdsty!
what do you mean "our" upstanding profession? you blog, you are not part of the profession.
First to have PASSED! I know minor accomplishment, but feels good since I'm about to fail exams.
I totally agree with 5. Just passed but it doesn't much matter since I am about to get schooled tomorrow on Securities Regulation...whomp
Hey great post guys. Really, outstanding job.
irrelevant. it's bonus season. FOCUS.
5: Ditto. That is all.
I'm shocked I passed!
Passed in CA. I think my hands are going to be a bit shakier when I click to see if I passed the Bar exam in a year from now.
What is the minimum for NY? 85 or 86?
12:
NY passing score is 85.
anyone not receive an email yet?
what's Dreier LLP's required MPRE score?
no email yet either
Wow, I should not have studied so much. I passed the crap out of that mofo.
no e-mail yet
i studied about 5 hours and got an 88. i'm fine with that.
Texas release bar results today and they are f@#king HUGE!
No email and the website won't load...wtf?
I scored a 136 - suck on my ethical balls Mystttal!!!
I studied over a weekend and got a 130. What a profound waste of effort. I wish I could go back and get more high.
No email and the website won't load...wtf?
I studied for 8 hours and got a 135. I should have gotten drunk instead.
14, 16
you can go to the website, log in and download the score report. I haven't gotten an email either.
I studied for three hours and got a 90. Should have studied for two hours, I guess.
No problem logging in if you use this link:
http://www.act.org/mpre/
can a firm actually see if you failed? provided you pass the second time?
ditto--no email yet and website won't load. grrr. Not that I'm too worried, but jeez. I suppose this is a prologue to the bar results insanity in 9 months from now.
I passed and I didn't even cheat -- for once!
Passed in NY!!!
3 hours of studying, passed with a 142
Barely studied, was sure I failed, and got a 128!
didnt study, took the exam in sanscrit while drunk and high but still managed a 149
The range is from 50-150, and a passing score is about 80 something... does that mean you only need to answer about 30% right to pass the test?
i scored 105, wtf does that mean? is that good? i wish they just told us how many we got right and wrong.
i studied for 4 minutes and got a 9,242! you guys are not ethical...
didnt study, took the exam in sanscrit while drunk and high but still managed a 149
I studied for 3 minutes and 23 seconds and scored a 197. Go fuck yourselves.
I was high during the entire exam and scored an 87
I studied a book on how to fail for negative hours and still got a 151... oooooh!
36: that's not good
wow. 125. they are not kidding when they say don't study.
barely passed that shiznit. glad i blew off the bar-bri video lecture with the worst professor ever.
Does anyone who studied for even 5 minutes fail?
I know of one guy who failed the August one, but that was because he showed up still rip-roaring drunk from his SA even the night before (obviously no studying done).
As for me, studied two days and passed with a 113.
Was dead certain I failed. Scored 125.
I do so love being a pessimist. It's the only way to be wrong and feel happy about it.
what does TTT mean
42 - you are dumb. Anything above an 86 passes for every jurisdiction. 36 - you did fine.
@ 36 --
You did really, really awesome.
i studied for 4 minutes and got a 9,242! you guys are not ethical...
80, the bare minimum for my state. what do you think of someone who only does the BARE MINIMUM?
however, if i end up moving to an 85 state, do i have to retake this thing? or would i have to anyway because this score wouldn't be recent enough?
42: Who the F#%@ are you? 36 passed everywhere on a joke of a test. Good job, 36. You are in the top half. You also probably are right below the ass hats bragging about their scores that actually put in relentless hours to dominate because kicking ass on something no one tries to do well on gets them off.
36 - The scores are scaled so that 100 is the average, so you were slightly above that.
Of the 50 graded questions (10 are samples) BarBri says that you need to get between 33 and 38 right to score an 85, depending on the difficulty of the particular test this is taking.
I strongly think this is BS, and you can probably get an 85 by getting 30 of the 50 graded questions right. This is still more than 30% of them, however.
Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah. Then I took the test, dead, covered in urine, and I got a 151.
Waived that bitch and smoked trees for an extra 3 hours. Yay for easy states.
23, 25, 33, 34, 35 = frat studs who lie about their study time and scores on the friggin ethics exam. Well done. Thanks in advance for the Dreier-like stories you douches will be generating over the next 30+ years.
36 here, thanks everybody for the surprising show of support!
i passed! now for the bar..
Try this website instead: I couldn't get through on the one posted by Elie, but this one worked. 135.
https://secureweb01.act.org/mpre/goMenu.do
it's hilarious that I can pass the MPRE with flying colors and still get a "C" in Ethics...
118
Kids in my high school used to fail the MPRE all the time, it was no big deal. They still serve me free drinks when I go back home to our town bar.
Kids in my high school used to fail the MPRE all the time, it was no big deal. They still serve me free drinks when I go back home to our town bar.
56: You must be pretty dumb if you think most of those scores and study times were unreasonable.
59- Whats even funnier is that I'll get an A in Ethics and only passed the MPRE by a couple points. Gotta prioritize
do firms give a shit that you passed? are we supposed to let them know?
138!
56 = studied for a week solid, was a gunner during the bar-bri session, failed, and can't believe others found the exam to be a complete waste of time. And can't count -- wtf does 25 have to do with it? He just said the website wouldn't load.
-27, who swears to the Baby Jeebus that he accurately stated his sub-average score and his largely unnecessary study time.
80--minimum passing score in my jurisdiction.
Haven't taken ethics yet. Skipped Bar-Bri lecture, studied ~2 hours.
Glad I don't live in NY or Cali.
70, you fail.
TWENTY SIX!! TWENTY SIX PASSING SCORES!!!!!!! AH AH AH AH AH!!!!!!!!!
- Count Layoffula
Count Layoffula, this is out of your jurisdiction.
Although I never opened the Barbri book, I slept with the book under my pillow and passed with a 120! I guess osmosis really does work! I'm going to stop studying for exams now and just put my notes and outlines underneath my pillow from now on.
111! I am the smartest man alive!!!
67 = biglaw associate who was laid off for performance reasons due to the fact that he can't count properly.
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EPIC COMMENT!!!
121. Which jurisdiction has the highest minimum passing score? I understand most are around 85.
"The calculation of scaled scores differs based on the difficulty of an individual exam, and therefore there is no formula (known in advance) for determining the number of correctly answered questions necessary to pass. The California bar web site offers some guidance: California's 79 points equate to (roughly) between 28 and 33 correct answers out of 50. A proposed minimum of 100 points would equate to (roughly) 32 to 37 correct answers."
studied for 10+ hours, went to a T20 school. failed with a 66. i mean fuck law school and all, but fuck the MPRE.
Isn't this site for lawyers? Who the F cares about the MPRE?
Seventy One -
I love to count things! I would count the failures, but there are not so many to count on the MPRE.
- Count Layoffula
state passing scores http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multistate_Professional_Responsibility_Examination
California thinks they're so special with their 86
@59: same here - wtf?
79: don't forget your roots. at one time you too cared about the MPRE
What Lawyer Lascivious did was:
(a) wrong because he had sex with a client
(b) wrong because he failed to get the client's written consent before having sex with her
(c) ok, because it was consensual and the client wanted it
(d) ok, because it is protected by the lawyer-client privilege
(e) wrong because Lascivious' officemate also had sex with Client and that is a conflict of interest
In response to 76 -- the state with the highest threshold is CA. Required score to pass is 86.
"Congratulations to those who met the minimum ethical standards for OUR upstanding profession."
Ellie -How does posting on someone else's blog qualify you as a member of the legal profession?
Studied for a couple of days, got a 138 - want the time I spend studying back.
@ 71:
Don't hate on Layoffula.
You twat-waffle haters chased nervous T10 1L away- don't chase Layoffula away too.
Passed the MPRE, not sure about Pro Res
wow. this was my score:
(amazing.)
Apparently I am ethical enough to be a lawyer. I'm just not sure that's good.
Hahaha barely studied and got a 90. Take that, ethics!
Passed with a 95! If only I could get a 95 on PR on Friday.
I love the peeps bragging about their scores on this thread. IT'S THE MOTHERF***ING MPRE. Who gives a f***? Virtually EVERYONE passes.
Also love the purported study time/score ratios. Maybe you are that good, but more likely, you are a tool and studied way too much for that 130+ score. It's like my law school LSAT theory. Poll everyone on his/her score and then see how it compares to the published median. Guarantee that median jumps at least 5 points. Same principle applies here for study times and scores
I put in 2 days on that sob- like 9 hours a day finals studying type shit. Got a 118. Good enough for IL and a small morale booster as I have my negotiable instruments final tomorow and im pretty sure it's gonna crush my soul.
F**K the UCC.
I studied casually with the Supreme Bar Review DVD and book. I would have studied more, but the questions were significantly easier than the actual test turned out to be, lulling me into submission. However, I got a passing score in all US jurisdictions, so who cares. But seriously, for anyone who is concerned about studying for it, don't use Supreme Bar Review. It sucks.
Studied 20 hours, attended Chemerinsky's four hour lecture, and passed with a 103.
I studied about 20 hours, took the Barbri class and got a 111
I didn't study and got a 135. However, I dropped out of law school 3 weeks ago to work for Goldman Sachs.
I jerked off 3 times the night before, and passed with a 90.
Everyone told me "don't worry about it, everyone passes--you don't even need to study." So I didn't. Oops.
Got an 84. Now I have to retake over Spring break to get a damn 85.
Does this unseemly score go to my firm, or will they only check if I passed when I show up to work in September.
Utah and California require the highest score, 86. NY and about 15 other states require 85. Information on average, percentiles, links, etc. is at :
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/legal_profession/2008/12/mpre-scaled-sco.html
102 - I say this in all seriousness.. you're a failure. you can't even figure out for yourself if you need to study for a damn test. You're a total loser who does whatever everyone else does. You probably shop at abercrombie, listen to shitty music like Brittany Spears, and drank Zima (if you were old enough; if you weren't, you would have). Sack up and make your own decisions instead of doing what everyone else tells you to do. Yes, this is harsh. But I wouldn't say it if I thought the MPRE was a big deal and that you would jump off a bridge for having failed. It's not, you'll take it again and pass, and hopefully you'll change your mindless ways.
104: I agree with you that I should have studied. That was stupid of me. But you didn't answer my question: do firms check MPRE scores every time they come out? or will they just look you up when you start working there?
no, man, you're good.
82: california doesn't think they're special.
in fact, a high mpre requirement is probably an indication that their lawyers are not ethical enough and so require their new lawyers to be more ethical.
There are lots that fail. Something like 20%.
California's high MPRE as well as their difficult bar is how they get around the glut of lawyers that might otherwise occur from allowing unaccredited schools.
109, but . . . seems . . . . unfair. Give hope, then snatice away with the one-two MPRE-BarZam punch
I passed with a 90, but in reality, there is no big difference between myself and someone who bearly got under the 85 cut off, maybe a couple questions? No need to despair, I mean atleast now you know that if you really had done a couple extra practice exams you would have nailed it for sure.
Good luck all.
I passed with a 121.
MPRE scores do not go to firms, and I'll bet they don't even check them, ever. Passing the MPRE is a requirement of the state bar, so as long as you have passed by the time you are planning to be admitted, you're fine. There are people who have to take the MPRE AFTER they take the bar exam for chrissakes.
That is impressive 111. Passing the test even though you are BEARly literate. Or was that supposed to be a clever play on recent economic trends?
I passed! (100 even) Sorry, just had to tell someone...
Why couldn't the MPRE just do a P for pass and an F for fail so all you douchebags wouldn't feel the need to discuss your scores?
To be perfectly frank, the mpre was never really hard. The legal profession should have higher standards than what was examined on this "test."
117, agreed. But the questions should be "real"-- not the stuff currently tested.
As a good friend one said, if you always select the second most ethical answer on the MPRE you're almost certain to do very well.
Hey 116 -- Troll a different comment section. The title of this post was "Post Your Scores and Study Times, Douchebags!"
I made a 90 after the online Kaplan thing and maybe 3 hrs study.
i passed!!!!!!!!!!
fell asleep watching the worst video professor ever. I then woke up at 2 am and tried to bs through my work book.
got a 90...and my state doesn't even require it...i just want to waive into dc...that only needs a 75...i wish I had just slept in
and yes...i will fail PR next week...where's the justice??
Answers to the bar exam are "WWJD... minus 1" It's a worthless exam, but just another small hurdle...
Now if only they could discriminate against people who made everything a pissing match... I'm glad you got a 100+ on the MPRE -- please brag to your future coworkers about it sometime over a beer. PLEASE.
122...sorry you lost the pissing contest, but you don't need to be bitter about it.
After 9 fails on this damn test, I passed with no problem on attempt number 10.
Granted, I took this waste of time exam a few years ago, but I got a 110. It does not really matter, because in NJ a "C" in Civ. Pro is good enough to get you out of the MPRE altogether. So, let’s put this into perspective: this is a waste of time test given so that we, as a profession, can claim to be smart. The reason it is scaled 50-150 instead of 1-100 is so that laymen can be impressed with 85 (not 85%, mind you) passing scores.
116, if it were P/F, a lot of us would study a lot more. I appreciated all the people reporting that they studied 20 hours and got a 130 because it let me know that studying 20 hours was a waste of good drinking time. Result? I surfed the internet during the Bar/Bri lecture, studied about 4 hours the night before and got a 108. I wish I could have about 2 of those hours back, but at least I didn't waste a whole weekend on this shit.
including the barbri lecture, studying, and practice exams, I probably spent 14 hours total on the test. Yes, I'm one of the people who got the 130+. But you never know until you take the test, and I've known people who took the "I didn't study at all" approach and failed miserably. Studying sucks, but retaking sucks much, much more.
Does anyone who studied for even 5 minutes fail?
I know of one guy who failed the August one, but that was because he showed up still rip-roaring drunk from his SA even the night before (obviously no studying done).
As for me, studied two days and passed with a 113.
85: Hilarious.
104: Take it easy, no reason to have a coronary. Yeah, he/she should have studied, but it's not like the post was that whiny.
116: Because the scores are different for every J/D.
59 - no, what's hilarious is that you got a "C" in ethics...LOL
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Funny how nobody on ATL studies for the MPRE and passes, but during the 2 days before the exam I saw bar/bri books abound at my T20 school.
Funny how nobody on ATL studies for the MPRE and passes, but during the 2 days before the exam I saw bar/bri books abound at my T20 school.
Passed with a 104. I had to take it to be admitted in TX because the prof. resp. exam I took in Illinois 30 years ago when I passed the bar was an Illinois-only exam, not a multistate one. Studied about 15 hours by reading the prof resp code and two outlines that I googled and printed out. Didn't buy the BRI book or take the class or buy any materials.
But I was sweating the results.
FYI--the MPRE scores are weighted so that someone who gets an 85 is at the 25 percentile (meaning that 75% did better). A 100 is the 50% percentile.
I did take the two publicly-available practice tests.
Got a 136 with 10 hours of studying the week of the test: went to the BARBRI lecture Wednesday (4 hours), read the condensed outline at the beginning of the BARBRI book on Thursday (2 hours), and took 2 practice exams Friday night (4 hours). The barbri lecture was completely worthless -- all I did was thoughtlessly fill in blanks the whole time and I'm pretty sure I fell asleep on at least two occasions.
(To be fair, I'm also taking PR for 2 credits this semester. I've attended most all of the classes, but don't prepare for them and just GCHAT the whole time in there anyway. Nor had I started studying for the final or anything.)
Moral of the story: For future MPRE takers, I'd recommend just reading the condensed outline and taking 2 practice exams for a total of 6 hours, and you should be able to pass...plus it makes sense to take PR the same semester you take the test so you can kill two birds with one stone -- i.e. pass the MPRE, and get at least a B+ in your PR class.
Of the people I've talked to at my school, I got the lowest passing score (87) that I've heard so far. A fellow law student suggested that I think of the scores like a reverse game of blackjack. I did the "best" because I put in the minimum work to get closest to the score needed. My score didn't bother me before, because it's still a passing score in every state, but now I'm really pumped about it.