way to honor the departed, 1

way to honor the departed, 1

"He was conscientious. He was careful"? Is that all they got?

I don't want to perpetuate the "kinky psycho" stereotype, but according to the article the killer was a client of Maa as pertains to her domination services. So to say that kink had nothing to do with the murder, sadly, appears to be wrong.

was a staff attorney

why does a picture of marylin mason accompany this story?

his girlfriend is prestigious

"Ottaviano's friends and colleagues at Paul Weiss were understandably sadden:"

Come on, Elie - are you even trying at this point??? Or, since we're on the topic of S&M, do you have sick sick perversion that causes you to enjoy being scolded for your horrible grammar?

shame... someone into S&M who is the submissive one (see gf being a dominatrix) would have thrived in Big Law.

Thank you Mistress Helga. May I have another (doc review assignment).

One fewer attorney to lay off.

#5 - nice logic. According to the article the killer also had tattoos. So to say that tattoos had nothing to do with the murder, sadly, appears to be wrong. According to the article the killer also had seen a woman whose parents lived in an expensive house on Long Island. So to say that expensive houses on Long Island had nothing to with the murder, sadly, appears to be wrong. Not to perpetuate any stereotypes about expensive houses on Long Island....

"Ottaviano and Maa happened to be into S&M, but it appears that the couple's sexual predilections have little to do with Ottaviano's murder."

But wasn't the killer one of her former S&M clients who had been stalking her? So, wouldn't that mean that the murder has a lot to do with them being into S&M?

Marilyn Mason??

http://www.marilynmason.com/

"were understandably sadden"?

Why is it our job to proofread these posts?

This would never happen at Skadden. Maybe SkaddenDC, but not NYC. Also, Mystal once stalked the clerk of the local Whole Foods, but I think he stopped.

"He was a really nice guy. He was a hard worker. He was conscientious. He was careful."

DOT DOT DOT, NEXT SENTENCE

Ottaviano and Maa partied together at kinky New York City fetish parties,

INSERT PAUSE FOR READER TO SAY "Wait, what?"

Hey #13, if she were a waitress and they were customers at the restaurant where she worked, would the murder have had a lot to do with food?

No need for humor or sarcasm in a post like this.

12 - "nice logic"? Yeah, it is. The killer went to Maa and she dominated him in a sexual way. He then became obsessed with her, stalked her, then killed her boyfriend. That is not a coincidence, like the tatoos or the house, that's a causal connection.

This is racist.

Why was this guy having SO much more fun than I am?

Hey 18, are restaurant customers usually creepy weirdos who are turned on by violence?

18 - No, but the point is that if the killer was into S&M an she was his dominatrix, then he felt a strong need to be with her / have her dominate him / etc. He likely killed her boyfriend out of jealousy stemming from his sexual obsession with her.

Why was this guy having SO much more fun than I am?

12 = s&m wackjob

Terrible grammar and spelling continue to taint your stories, Elie. Hard for us to enjoy them when you make us cringe every other sentence. Do you even bother to proof read a single time?

I was supposed to be fourth, but this stupid thing won't let me post.
FOURTH!

You can see her left nipple in that picture

Muscular Madman's under-boobs sweat too much

http://www.nypost.com/photos/galleries/news/regionalnews/pp_20081204_jade_vixen/photo02.jpg

17: are you saying the qualities of your work are identical to the qualities of your sex life? I hope not.

30th!
-love First

27 - You are patehtic if mipselling mkaes you unalbe to raed and ejnoy stuff. Douche.
I just thought this story was not so interesting, but nothing to do with grammar and spelling; perfectly readable

What exactly do they mean the lunatic was a previous 'client'? Was she the S & M equivalent of a prostitute? Going to kinky S&M parties is one thing, but...

16 - It wouldn't happen at SkaTTTen because those douches cannot get girlfriends.

#5 - Have you ever heard of a thing called "inductive logic"? Idiot.

Read the article. S&M cinnection is central to the murder not just a coincidence. She was U of Penn (State) & the deceased was NY(U) Law, while the murderer was SUNY. So TTT.

29, she has prestigious quarter sized nipples. Not too big, not too small. Just right.

http://www.nypost.com/photos/galleries/news/regionalnews/pp_20081204_jade_vixen/photo03.htm

Holy crap she's hot!

You people should all be ashamed for making jokes about this!! Someone has just died...get a life all of you!

HELLO MY INTERNET FRIENDS!!!

34,

Yes ... it means she was a quasi-hooker. Observe:

http://www.collegeotr.com/gallery/college_otr/jade_vixen_ivy_league_dominatrix_targeted_in_love_triangle_with_lawyer_and_killer_16313/1

lie with dogs, get fleas

Sorry, but obsession is going to be a higher risk in the BDSM scene than in non-kinky, day-to-day interaction. Read SM 101 by Jay Wiseman if you don't believe me.

I read the story without first looking at the author's name, and knew immediately it was Elie, and not in a good way. Not only is the spelling and grammar poor, but the commentary is stupid and wrong. How can he say the S&M activity was unrelated to the killing? So we have two strikes: 1. bad spelling and grammar, and 2. poor analytical skills. This guy's a lawyer?

You people should all be ashamed for making jokes about this!! Someone has just died...get a life all of you!

WOW she is hot. how did that Paul Weiss guy get her?

Also, the pictures of the muscle man killer are a must see. Note the text to picture 4. That guy in high heels would be an Epic LoL

if this is what biglaw lawyers get for a eulogy "He was a hard worker. He was conscientious. He was careful."

then i think i should quit now.. they probably should have included he had great grammar too

More pictures of the sexy Jade Vixen:

http://www.gwenmedia.com/images/latest/070207_03.jpg

http://www.staylace.com/gallery/gallery29/graphics/jade_vixen1.jpg

http://www.staylace.com/gallery/gallery29/graphics/jade_vixen2.jpg

35 - Why can't they get girlfriends?

34 - Look up "dominatrix."
33 - Peanuts, cheese, and bottles of champagne for passing the bar are way more salacious than S&M murder stories, right?

And finally....18.....S&M whore customers are slightly different than IHOP customers, in that "he became obsessed with and killed her after she spanked him with a cat o' nine lives and then TOLD HIM SHE WAS GOING TO KILL HIM IF HE DIDN'T SUBMIT TO HER" just sounds better than "he became obsessed with and killed her after she refilled his soda."

Elie: I am, as always, impressed by your analytical skills. "The couple's sexual predilections have little to do with Ottaviano's murder" is as inaccurate as anything you could possibly say about this story.

Well I think this is funny.

"felt compelled to send our an email . . . ."

You're doing this on purpose, right Elie?

Well 51, I hope someone thinks it's funny when you die.

Most of you are terrible people. Stop focusing on Elie's typos or the lifestyle this man's girlfriend led. Why do you losers care so much about this stuff? Ottaviano's death is a sad story. My condolences to Ottaviano's family and friends.

Guess there's a, ahem, opening at his former firm.

His loss was felt by both Paul and Weiss.

Is Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison a kinky fetish shop or a law firm?

I supposed you COULD have basically any hobby, no matter how extraordinary, and still be respected in White Shoe Law Firms

Can someone tells me what a "dominatrix" actually does for her "clients"? Do people actually drop obscene sums of money for attractive women in latex to yell at and playfully spank them?

I've tried to be supportive but damn it, Elie, you and Flava Flav have set black people back at least 50 years. Now I have to start using the crappy colored fountain. Thanks a lot "brother." smh

Paul weiss will have to pay skadden bonuses after this.

Whatever happened to the idea of boycotting ATL for a day to show our total disgust with Elie. Go ahead Elie ban this IP address also. Thanks for supporting our first amendment rights(NOT).

Hats off to him.

yawn.

62, are you actually a lawyer? The first amendment doesn't protect your right to post on a website that somebody else pays to publish. The claim of IP banning is similar bullshit. Finally, about 5 people to date have boycotted this site, with tremendous and exciting results.

65 - Mike Piazza? Is that you?

Mike Piazza has neither the analytic mind, nor the rugged good looks, nor the frankly awesome beard that I enjoy. At best, he rides my coattails but is good at baseball.

Plus, I heard he's gay, and I am TOTALLY not.

65/67 - I hope Roger Clemens beans you!

better pics

http://www.nypost.com/photos/galleries/news/regionalnews/pp_20081204_jade_vixen/photo03.htm

"were understandably sadden" is clearly supposed to be "were understandably Skadden." Duh.

Crazy stuff.

65-Duh---thanks for the brilliant analysis of my 1st amendment rights. How much is Ellie paying you to be his troll? Ask him how many IP addresses he has banned from posting on here. I think the number might surprise you.
62(banned from posting from anothe IP address)

70 - excellent.

So... The chick is available now, right?

Please remember that this person lost his life .....and his family and friends lost him. Please be respectful. I am sure everyone has something in their life they are not proud of and would not want to share (think about that for a moment). Please be respectful to a tragic and sad situation. If you knew him you would not be so heartless.

So this guy was a former client...former as in "she stopped seeing clients when she started dating Ottaviano" or former as in "she's still seeing clients, just not him anymore"?
And why was she wasting her time with a PW attorney? She could probably pull in $500/hr taxfree, while he makes a fraction of that before tax.

48 - that is not work appropriate!

Let's be glass-half-full people. First, he lived a good life, and was obviously liked by his colleagues. Second, this smoking hot, sexually-wild girl is now looking for a shoulder to cry on. Think of the opportunities people! She clearly has a thing for social misfits - - which makes her prime for all BIGLAW! Ladies, I'm sure you have a shot as well.

Gigady!

At 75

I definitely appreciate the sentiments, but I don't see the point of saying "I am sure everyone has something in their life they are not proud of...." What the hell would he have to be ashamed about? Anthony enjoyed fetish parties and kink. Big deal. My girlfriend and I enjoy threesomes; other lawyers no doubt enjoy other non-mainstream sexual fun. It's not newsworthy, and there's no reason not to be proud about it.

It's a shame that Anthony's tragic death has been trivialized (unsurprisingly) by the Post ("Lawyer's Deadly Secret!!!!") and (even less suprisingly) the scum of the earth in this comment section in such a way to play up the kink angle. He was killed by a deranged lunatic--the S&M angle is basically irrelevant.

Why does the article say that Jade Vixon was Ivy League educated then later mentions she went to UPenn State? Is the Engineering School anywhere near the business school Warden? or is it in Happy Valley with the law school?

Why does the article say that Jade Vixon was Ivy League educated then later mentions she went to UPenn State? Is the Engineering School anywhere near the business school Warden? or is it in Happy Valley with the law school?

Oddly enough, the last time JT was porkin' some crazy weightlifter/submissive's former paid dominatrix, said crazy submissive tried to kill JT as well. Fortunately, JT's uncanny skill with the Bo staff prevailed.

42--you're right on the money.

When you associate with freaks and perverts, don't be surprised when the final outcome is...suboptimal, to put it mildly.

79 I am not saying there is anything wrong with it, only that it would depend on who is judging. You are correct that the topic discussed has nothing to do with this. Some people are missing the point that a precious life has ended for no good reason and by no fault of his own.

Mentally ill stalkers who kill sexual rivals are a just as likely to be s&m enthusiasts as they are to be lawyers. or astronauts.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Technology/Story?id=2855634&page=1

And if you don't know that, it's laughable that you consider yourself qualified to practice law.

Mentally ill stalkers who kill sexual rivals are a just as likely to be s&m enthusiasts as they are to be lawyers. or astronauts.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Technology/Story?id=2855634&page=1

And if you don't know that, it's laughable that you consider yourself qualified to practice law.

back in high school, we used to stalk fetishist half asian dominatrixes and mortally wound their creepy boyfriends all the time and it was no big deal.

@83 and all the other closed-minded, deep-in-the-closet prudes on this site: Right, it's all about the S&M, and has nothing to do with a jealous rival. That kind of thing NEVER happens in the vanilla world.

Go bill some hours, scumbags.

@75:

Right on.

I hate to say it but thats what you get for associating with a skank like that. I mean really, its one thing just banging a whore, its entirely another to DATE her.

This guy was a complete schmuck.

@90:

That "whore" is an attorney and probably graduated from a better school than you did.

umm 91, the whore was not an attorney. she was a chem major from Stony Brook, that mecca of learning. The guy was a staff attorney, not a real attorney and went to New York Law School, which is a joke. Learn the facts before spouting.

@92:

"The guy was a staff attorney, not a real attorney and went to New York Law School, which is a joke."

What has that got to do with anything?

umm 92, does that mean 90's comment calling her a whore was appropriate???

94-- what do you call someone who takes money for sexual acts. i call them a whore because thats what it is.

Oh, I forgot, she never had sex with her clients. yeah, right. She just tickled their nipples. Join the real world.

I'm sure her parents are real proud..

22 "Why was this guy having SO much more fun than I am?" ---> operative word = "was".

"The right to worship must be earned by devoted servitude" the lady states on her website. I guess the murderer worshipped her.....and jealousy prevailed. RIP Anthony.

79 - "the S&M angle is basically irrelevant". Oh really?

98--

Yeah, really.

She met the client professionally. The professional relationship ended. Client stalked her. Client then killed her boyfriend.

Replace client with "co-worker" or "classmate" or "neighbor". The circumstances under which she and the client met are irrelevant to the clearly fucked up mental state of the client, a mental state under which he felt he needed to stalk the girl and then murder the guy, Anthony, who had the audacity to date a girl who had the shocking temerity to make a lot of money from a job looked down upon some--a job in which (despite the statement of some who are calling her a "whore") shrewd women take advantage of willing people generally WITHOUT having sex with the client.

I fucking hate Above the Law.

Crazy in the bed, crazy in the head!!

Thank you for your opinions 99.

" Whore" is a harsh word. I prefer "prostitute". It's not a judgement....just a simple fact. Sex takes many forms.

I think this story and most of the comments here are a very good illustration of the moral wasteland that is NY BigLaw. Unless of course someone were to say something crazy like, oh, I don't know, a marriage is between a man and a woman.

Marriage is between a man, a woman, his mistress, the girl at the rub and tug, his random hookups and her duty to cook dinner and clean.

Fully agree with 103. The private lives of the victims falls under LGBT umbrella. Nice to know that BIGLAW culture is no longer judgemental.

My condolences to the victims and their familes.

All judgment aside, I envy the guy's lifestyle. Well, except for the very end, that is.

27:

"Proofread" is one word. Ok hun?

The reason this happened is because Ottaviano decided to murder a man and kidnap Jade. Ottaviano making that choice is the only reason this happened. Anthony's decision to date Jade didn't make Ottaviano pick up a gun and shoot him.

Instead of casting judgment on other's occupational choices (which, you know, NEVER happens to attorneys) or decisions of who to date, maybe the blame should be placed on the guy who stalked and terrorized someone and killed her boyfriend. I guess that would just be crazy though, right? It makes so much more sense to blame the "whore" or the "freak".

I'm embarassed to be in a profession with some of you. You may have expensive educations and big paychecks, but your logic and capactiy to act like human beings is really lacking.

PEOPLE! Look closely at this pic:

http://www.nypost.com/photos/galleries/news/regionalnews/pp_20081204_jade_vixen/photo02.htm

and you will notice the massive sweat stains under this meathead's bitch tits!!!!!

Classic side effect of using the juice!!

And yes, 103 and 105 you are totally right, of course.

I love the Paul Weiss partner gives a completely generic assessment of the departed. He was a "nice guy" and a "hard worker."

Meanwhile, folks at the firm are surely doing all they can to distance themselves from this poor, tortured soul.

The people calling the Domme a 'whore' are the ones who have to pay full price for her to spank their nasty asses. Fat, ugly, sweaty, old, with a sweater for chest/back/body hair.

That guy looked like he was a degenerate drug addict weirdo. Wtf was he doing at Paul Weiss??

108 your opinion is valid. Just pointing out that Ottaviano was the victim, not the perp.

Prostitution is a dangerous job.

I personally would not hang out with those who live their lives in the underworld.

Saying that the murder has "something to do with" S&M is not judgmental. It is a deeply psychological relationship, and probably lead to the killing just as the killing of an ex-wife has "something to do with" marriage.

And Iowa farmboys 17, 34, and 114 aside (welcome to the big city kids!) I'm actually pretty impressed with how normally people seem to be treating the lifestyle. Yeah, it attracts some freaks, but not any more than a comic book convention or other sub-cultures do.

Saying that the murder has "something to do with" S&M is not judgmental. It is a deeply psychological relationship, and probably lead to the killing just as the killing of an ex-wife has "something to do with" marriage.

And Iowa farmboys 17, 34, and 114 aside (welcome to the big city kids!) I'm actually pretty impressed with how normally people seem to be treating the lifestyle. Yeah, it attracts some freaks, but not any more than a comic book convention or other sub-cultures do.

From my perspective, being a dominatrix is actually a sweet life. You get to:
1. Earn tons of money,
2. Not have to have sex with clients, and most of all,
3. Make them clean your apartment.

The hours are more flexible, too.

Really, a nice alternative to BigLaw. I just wussed out for the sake of social acceptance.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whore

She was (and is) a whore. period. Get off you political correct dumbasses, for once. This guy should have listened to hs mommy.

Staff atty: "Hey mom, how are you? I met a real sweet girl last night"

Mom: 'Really, honey? What does she do?"

Staff atty: "Well, she dresses up in leather and 10 inch heels and puts nipple clamps on tattoed steroid abusers, leading them around the neck with a leash. And she gets paid for it!!. Awww, ma, she' peachy!

Mom: "Son, are you a fucking idiot? Dropthat whore"

Get real.

#117, chances are real good you'll have a chance very soon to follow your dream. check a newspaper lately?

#104---spot on!

#108. Let me guess. You went to Brown, and graduated from NYU Law in 2007 in the top half of your class and wrote for the International Law Journal (or its equivalent). You helped pay your way through NYU Law by fucking dudes you met on caigslist for $350 a pop.

115 you Silly Billy you. "Welcome to the cesspool`` would be more accurate.

#115 - Comparing Comicon to dudes who pay skanks to light their balls on fire is a little much, no?

Lets see. well, for one Comicon is legal. prostitution is not, and pay to play S&M is prostitution, legally. And I can guarantee you that this girl has accepted money for sex, as have at least one third of your average NYC girl. Believe it.

Those of you who have been disrespectful to the victims, particularly Anthony Ottaviano, should not be practicing law and do not deserve the precious lives you are lucky enough to continue to live.

Grow up. You should be ashamed of yourselves!

#36, I love how you insult #5 for not hearing about "inductive logic," yet you seem to completely miss what an inductive argument actually is. The following is the appropriate structure of the argument he makes:

1. Individuals who participate in S&M, in particular domination, MAY have a propensity for becoming obsessed with their dominatrix

2. This propensity MAY be heightened IN COMPARISON to other normal service relationships due to characteristics specific to those who seek out dominatrices

3. Obsession, in this context, CAN lead to jealousy

4. Jealousy CAN lead to the type of action taken in this case (murder)

5. Consequently, those who seek out S&M services MAY have a greater propensity to become obsessed with their dominatrix and commit acts of violence as a result.

And, as #36 mentioned, this is inductive logic, which means that it is between 0.01-99.99% true. It is neither completely valid or completely invalid.

The evidence is debatable, but one point is patently clear: if you do not want to be killed by your S&M purveying dominatrix's obsessed former client...don't date her in the first place. May Mr. Ottaviano R.I.P., and may we learn to exercise caution in our personal lives as a result of this tragic incident.

"it appears that the couple's sexual predilections have little to do with Ottaviano's murder"? Really? So, if she hadn't sold her services as a dominatrix to the murderer, this crime would have been just as likely to occur? It's not the victim or his girlfriend's fault that this lunatic killed him and kidnapped and raped her. Only the murderer is at fault. However, the crime is closely linked to their lifestyle and, more particularly, her career as a professional dominatrix. Ignoring that doesn't give respect to the dead and acknowledging it doesn't blame the victims. It's just a fact.