Yale Moves On-Campus Interviews to August
Enough about the poor, unfortunate class of 2010, what about the soon to be wealthy class of 2011?
At the beginning of this month, we mentioned that Yale Law School and Harvard Law School were considering moving their fall recruiting process all the way up to mid-August. At the time, we said:
Despite the placid exterior that comes from being at the top and knowing it, even mighty Yale looks like it’s ready to make some concessions to the general market strife.
Today, Yale makes the move official. And the reasons for the change couldn’t be clearer:
Whereas in previous years all second year students had until December 1 to respond to job offers, the new rules give students 45 days from the date of their offer letters to accept or decline. As a result, students from law schools with August 2008 programs had, in some cases, already accepted employment offers before YLS students interviewed or conducted callbacks.
It looks like Yale isn’t afraid of a little head-to-head competition with other schools.
But the moving up the start of recruiting will require Yale to make changes throughout the fall calendar:
Given the timing of Fall Break (October 19 - 23, 2009), we recognize that it is unlikely to be used for callback interviews, as has been the case in past years. Instead, employers will be encouraged to begin scheduling callback interviews during the week of August 24 - 28. The Law School will also limit programming during Fridays in September so students can use these dates to conduct callback interviews.
Class Free Fridays! They should keep that going all year long.
Read the full memo after the jump.
YALE LAW SCHOOL — MEM0 — TIMING OF 2009 INTERVIEW PROGRAM
We know that for many of you, the summer job experience is an important part of your preparation to enter the legal profession and a key step in securing post-graduation employment. The Law School’s annual interview program for second and third year students has served as a successful forum for our students to meet employers and find summer and post graduate job placements. We remain committed to maximizing your job search opportunities during these challenging economic times, and have reviewed the timing of our interview program with that goal in mind. After carefully considering a number of factors, we have decided to hold the Law School’s interview program for second and third year law students during the week of August 17, 2009. This shifts the timing of the program from late September/early October when interviews traditionally have been held.
Currently, many other law schools, including Stanford, Columbia, and NYU, hold interview programs in August, and Harvard is considering an August program as well. In addition, NALP (The Association for Legal Career Professionals) modified its timing guidelines this year to institute rolling offer and acceptance deadlines. Whereas in previous years all second year students had until December 1 to respond to job offers, the new rules give students 45 days from the date of their offer letters to accept or decline. As a result, students from law schools with August 2008 programs had, in some cases, already accepted employment offers before YLS students interviewed or conducted callbacks.
As we reviewed the impact of these developments, we wanted to obtain your feedback on the timing of our interview program and conducted a survey to learn your thoughts. The survey revealed that a decided majority of you believe that moving our interview program to August is the best course of action. A number of you also identified factors that we should take into consideration including the impact that August interviews may have on first year summer employment opportunities.
We have also received input on the process and timing from employers, including hiring partners and recruiting directors, as well as alumni. This has been a key part of our evaluation.
Please note that if you plan to participate in the 2009 interview program, you will need to return to the Law School by August 17. If you leave for your summer job at the end of the Spring 2009 exam period, this would allow you to work for up to 12 weeks. Given the timing of Fall Break (October 19 - 23, 2009), we recognize that it is unlikely to be used for callback interviews, as has been the case in past years. Instead, employers will be encouraged to begin scheduling callback interviews during the week of August 24 - 28. The Law School will also limit programming during Fridays in September so students can use these dates to conduct callback interviews.
CDO will make every effort to minimize transition issues for all constituents. We will modify our programming schedule and approach to make sure you are well prepared for August interviews, starting with a program in February to discuss the logistics of the interview process. We plan to coordinate with the law journal heads to minimize any impact on the summer journal work week. We are also working with employers to facilitate a smooth transition to an August program.
As always, if you have any questions or concerns about the impact of this change on your particular situation, please feel free to contact a counselor in CDO. We look forward to working with you during another successful interview season.
Theresa J. Bryant
Executive Director
Yale Law School Career Development Office
Earlier: Fall Recruiting Fallout: Harvard/Yale Make Concessions to ‘Reality’
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first to who cares start a jones day thread already
fifth first this week
"limit programming?" who writes this shit for YLS, YLS grads?
Employers don't like scheduling callbacks during the last week of august. As it is they're not happy about the mid-august start date.
1) They've just finished up their summer programs.
2) The end of august is prime vacation time. Back when there actually was finance work, things slowed down during August while all businessdoods were on vacation as well.
This year during OCI a number of firms didn't start callbacks until after labor day.
Harvard Yale will just have to deal with students leaving during the semester, like all the other schools that aren't in the target legal markets of their students.
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>> The end of august is prime vacation time. Back when there actually was finance work, things slowed down during August while all businessdoods were on vacation as well.
Lawyers senior ebough to take vacation dont do OCI screening interviews. Lawyers junior enough to be sent to OCI aren't allowed to take vacation.
Still wouldn't hire 'em. They are not hungry enough.
-v25 Senior Associate.
Whether any law firms will want to commit to hiring people 2+ years before they start working is, of course, still to be decided.
If BigLaw had the smarts, they'd say "We'll interview for summer jobs in January. See ya! Then, they could have all the interviews in Jan/Feb, make offers in March, and not be stuck with commitments they don't need.
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Yale is TTT.
At least when I was there, Columbia rarely had classes on Fridays. Which was one nice thing about Columbia.
It's really hard to get callbacks scheduled on a friday... the schools should just accept that people are going to miss school.
if you're smart enough to get into YLS, then you should be smart enough to find a great job that isn't in Big Law
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6 - but they do callback interviews, which was my point.
Arrogance breeds incompetence
Ok. So now, students at all law schools will compete on a level playing field. No more handicapping HLS and YLS students. Sound like great news for ________?
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"Lawyers senior ebough to take vacation dont do OCI screening interviews. Lawyers junior enough to be sent to OCI aren't allowed to take vacation."
Are you at Bizarro Law Firm? At my firm - a corporate firm in the top of its market - junior associates are much more likely to have successful vacations than anyone else in the firm. Seniors are less fungible, and much more likely to have their vacations cancelled. The same goes for partners.
As for OCI, all our interviews are done by partners. I assumed this was par for the course
What whole Yale thing?
Well, he was probably a closet homosexual who did a lot of cocaine. That whole Yale thing.
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"Currently, many other law schools, including Stanford, Columbia, and NYU, hold interview programs in August, and Harvard is considering an August program as well."
When does Chicago have their OCI/EIP? (Basically, per YLS: YHSCN >>> Chi.)
What a bunch of elitist pigs. Yale needs a leg up?! Please, how about ending the reign of Commies!
So which school will be the first to move it to July?
Interesting thing I've learned about Yale. Yale women tend to give up the butt. Lots of FOBs who, per their culture, save their virginity for marriage.
Nothing like Yale to bring out the wingnut conservative creeps....
13- you sir have the most credited post in this thread so far
Yale? Never heard of it.
Anyway, who cares when interviews for biglaw jobs are? How does this save lives?
Too bad Yale is in New Haven, CT. If one were to compress everything that makes New Jersey shitty into a single city, the result would be New Haven.
29 has never had New Haven pizza, excuse me, apizza. Numbnuts.
NYU to july!
Chicago is on the stupid quarter system. This past year we had OCI in the second half of September (before school even started), and we probably will have to continue this way. If we do our OCI in mid Aug like other schools, that would effectively cut the 1L summer in half. I don't know what we're going to do.
32, HLS and YLS fall semester starts in September. By moving OCI to august the rising 2Ls will have to return to Cambridge/new haven for OCI before classes officially begin in September.
Agree with 29. Speaking of New Jersey, it is the worst.
Agree with 29. Speaking of New Jersey, it is the worst.
its amazing how little i care about recruiting now that i'm employed.
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In a word, you fake intellectuals are pathetic. The soul reason for above average LSAT scores have to his point resulted in “biglaw” first year’s billing fantasies. USELESS first years; USELESS second years; USELESS third years; & so on & so on …. Biglaw associates NEVER see the inside of a court room or a shit pre-trial motion that wasn’t edited to death by a real attorney (Lord Bissell Broken Chicago IP department – I’m looking in your incapable way). You are jokes. Either get out of he way or be “downsized” for economic reasons six months short of equity partnership. Then all of a sudden we will hear a sudden cry that the student loan industry is patently unfair. Booo hooo -- go fuck yourselves. Welcome to the real world.
Signed 2005 T-10 who is completely sick of hearing of you guys who think the world owes them something just because you finished all he logic games on a bullshit test 10 years ago. Seriously, fuck you. Go do something significant for God’s sake!
In a word, you fake intellectuals are pathetic. The soul reason for above average LSAT scores have to his point resulted in “biglaw” first year’s billing fantasies. USELESS first years; USELESS second years; USELESS third years; & so on & so on …. Biglaw associates NEVER see the inside of a court room or a shit pre-trial motion that wasn’t edited to death by a real attorney (Lord Bissell Broken Chicago IP department – I’m looking in your incapable way). You are jokes. Either get out of he way or be “downsized” for economic reasons six months short of equity partnership. Then all of a sudden we will hear a sudden cry that the student loan industry is patently unfair. Booo hooo -- go fuck yourselves. Welcome to the real world.
Signed 2005 T-10 who is completely sick of hearing of you guys who think the world owes them something just because you finished all he logic games on a bullshit test 10 years ago. Seriously, fuck you. Go do something significant for God’s sake!
In a word, you fake intellectuals are pathetic. The soul reason for above average LSAT scores have to his point resulted in “biglaw” first year’s billing fantasies. USELESS first years; USELESS second years; USELESS third years; & so on & so on …. Biglaw associates NEVER see the inside of a court room or a shit pre-trial motion that wasn’t edited to death by a real attorney (Lord Bissell Broken Chicago IP department – I’m looking in your incapable way). You are jokes. Either get out of he way or be “downsized” for economic reasons six months short of equity partnership. Then all of a sudden we will hear a sudden cry that the student loan industry is patently unfair. Booo hooo -- go fuck yourselves. Welcome to the real world.
Signed 2005 T-10 who is completely sick of hearing of you guys who think the world owes them something just because you finished all he logic games on a bullshit test 10 years ago. Seriously, fuck you. Go do something significant for God’s sake!
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A lot of dumb comments in this thread. Those from #4, #6, and #8 are dubious at best.
Oh no! Yalies will actually have to miss classes to go to callbacks! (like everyone else)....
Dorks.
29 = best comment.
Yale should get an exclusive interview week. Employers who wish to interview must refrain from interviewing law students from any inferior law schools during that week.
38-40: Belligerent, drunk, illiterate, nonsensical, fired or never hired from a crap Chicago shop, and yelling (I think) at the logic games that raped him on the LSAT. Sad times for that fellow.
Another race to the bottom - just what the profession needs...
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29 is almost right, but I don't think New Jersey could possibly be as bad as New Haven. Most things that people say about YLS are charicatures and sterotypes, but people fail to see just how much of a hole New Haven is. New Haven is dirtier than a bactirium living off the excriment of a dung beetle. It is a crime infested pile of garbage, and everyone here is too PC to do anything about it. All we get is weekly emails detailing how students are shot, stabbed, or otherwise assaulted and then a reminder to be aware of our surrondings. Like that helps. If I'm vigilant, the best I can hope for is that I'll see the street thugs gun before he sticks it in my face.
New Haven sucks