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	<title>Comments on: Nationwide Layoff Watch: Loeb &amp; Loeb Layoffs Round 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE LIST: This list does not include &quot;redeployments,&quot; mergers, staff, or staff attorneys.

Announced &#124; Firm &#124; Location &#124; Total &#124; &quot;Review-Based&quot;? &#124; Acknowledged?

1/11/2007 Kenyon &amp; Kenyon US 16 No Yes

10/1/2007 Thacher Proffitt &amp; Wood US 24 No Yes

10/17/2007 Kirkland &amp; Ellis Chicago 6 to 8 Yes No

1/10/2008 Cadwalader, Wickersham &amp; Taft Charlotte 9 No Yes

1/10/2008 Cadwalader, Wickersham &amp; Taft NYC 26 No Yes

2/14/2008 Winstead PC Dallas ~3 Yes Yes

2/29/2008 Dechert US 13 No Yes

3/20/2008 Thelen Reid Brown Raysman &amp; Steiner US 26 No Yes

4/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf Jacksonville 10 No Yes

4/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf Hartford 22 No Yes

4/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf Austin 16 No Yes

4/25/2008 Sutherland Asbill &amp; Brennan Atlanta 8 Mix Yes

4/25/2008 Sutherland Asbill &amp; Brennan DC &lt;7 Mix Yes

5/12/2008 Paul Hastings US 22 Yes Yes

5/28/2008 Sonnenschein Nath &amp; Rosenthal US 37 No Yes

6/5/2008 Blank Rome Philadelphia 6 Yes Yes

6/5/2008 Blank Rome NYC 2 Yes Yes

6/5/2008 Blank Rome DC 1 Yes Yes

6/11/2008 Thacher Proffitt &amp; Wood US 36 No Yes

6/23/2008 Powell Goldstein US &lt;10 No Yes

7/1/2008 Patton Boggs Dallas 4 Yes Yes

7/1/2008 Patton Boggs US 5 Yes Yes

7/14/2008 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LA, SF, San Diego 15 Unk No

7/16/2008 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman East Coast &lt;10 Unk No

7/30/2008 Cadwalader, Wickersham &amp; Taft NYC, Charlotte, London, DC 96 No Yes

8/4/2008 DLA Piper London 1 No Yes

8/6/2008 Sullivan &amp; Worcester Boston &amp; NY 7 Yes No

8/12/2008 Simpson Thacher &amp; Bartlett global 30 Yes No

8/21/2008 Morgan &amp; Finnegan NYC ~4 No Yes

9/22/2008 Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer unknown &lt;5 No Yes

9/25/2008 Heller Ehrman US ~600? No Yes

10/2/2008 Sonnenschein Nath &amp; Rosenthal US 25 No Yes

10/14/2008 Clifford Chance NYC &amp; DC 20 No Yes

10/20/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf Charlotte 8 No Yes

10/20/2008 Katten Muchin Rosenman US 21 No Yes

10/21/2008 Jenner &amp; Block US 10 No Yes

10/22/2008 Dechert US 10 to 30 Yes No

10/23/2008 O&#039;Melveny &amp; Myers LA 5 Yes Yes

10/27/2008 White &amp; Case Milan 14 No Yes

10/28/2008 Thelen Reid Brown Raysman &amp; Steiner US ~500? No Yes

10/30/2008 Bell Boyd &amp; Lloyd Chicago 10 No Yes

11/3/2008 McKee Nelson NYC 13 No Yes

11/3/2008 McKee Nelson DC 4 No Yes

11/11/2008 Loeb &amp; Loeb US 8 Yes Yes

11/11/2008 White &amp; Case US, London 70 No Yes

11/12/2008 Moore Van Allen Charlotte 20 No Yes

11/13/2008 Orrick, Herrington &amp; Sutcliffe US 40 No Yes

11/14/2008 Greenberg Traurig NYC unk No No

11/19/2008 Brown Rudnick US 20 No Yes

11/20/2008 Mayer Brown US 33 No Yes

11/20/2008 Squire Sanders US &lt;30 Yes Yes

11/21/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf NYC 5 to 11 Unk No

11/21/2008 Fried Frank US 15 Yes No

12/1/2008 Fried Frank US 15 Yes No

12/3/2008 Reed Smith UK 11 No Yes

12/4/2008 Proskauer Rose US 35 No Yes

12/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf NY 11 No Yes

12/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf LA 1 No Yes

12/5/2008 Seyfarth Shaw US 30 No Yes

12/10/2008 Pircher Nichols &amp; Meeks LA, Chicago 8 No Yes

12/10/2008 Howrey Unk ~10 Yes Yes

12/15/2008 Wolf Block US 15 No Yes

12/15/2008 Drinker Biddle US 20 No No

12/17/2008 Gunderson Dettmer US Unk Yes No

1/7/2009 Kirkland &amp; Ellis Chicago 15-25 Yes No

1/7/2009 Dickstein Shapiro NYC &amp; DC 10 No Yes

1/8/2009 Parker Poe NC/SC 13 No Yes

1/8/2009 Baker &amp; McKenzie NYC 6 No Yes

1/8/2009 Clifford Chance London ~80 No Yes

1/9/2009 Wildman Harrold Chicago 10 Yes Yes

1/9/2009 Loeb &amp; Loeb US 4 Unk No

Let me know if I missed something over the last month or so or listed anything incorrectly.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE LIST: This list does not include &#8220;redeployments,&#8221; mergers, staff, or staff attorneys.</p>
<p>Announced | Firm | Location | Total | &#8220;Review-Based&#8221;? | Acknowledged?</p>
<p>1/11/2007 Kenyon &amp; Kenyon US 16 No Yes</p>
<p>10/1/2007 Thacher Proffitt &amp; Wood US 24 No Yes</p>
<p>10/17/2007 Kirkland &amp; Ellis Chicago 6 to 8 Yes No</p>
<p>1/10/2008 Cadwalader, Wickersham &amp; Taft Charlotte 9 No Yes</p>
<p>1/10/2008 Cadwalader, Wickersham &amp; Taft NYC 26 No Yes</p>
<p>2/14/2008 Winstead PC Dallas ~3 Yes Yes</p>
<p>2/29/2008 Dechert US 13 No Yes</p>
<p>3/20/2008 Thelen Reid Brown Raysman &amp; Steiner US 26 No Yes</p>
<p>4/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf Jacksonville 10 No Yes</p>
<p>4/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf Hartford 22 No Yes</p>
<p>4/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf Austin 16 No Yes</p>
<p>4/25/2008 Sutherland Asbill &amp; Brennan Atlanta 8 Mix Yes</p>
<p>4/25/2008 Sutherland Asbill &amp; Brennan DC &lt;7 Mix Yes</p>
<p>5/12/2008 Paul Hastings US 22 Yes Yes</p>
<p>5/28/2008 Sonnenschein Nath &amp; Rosenthal US 37 No Yes</p>
<p>6/5/2008 Blank Rome Philadelphia 6 Yes Yes</p>
<p>6/5/2008 Blank Rome NYC 2 Yes Yes</p>
<p>6/5/2008 Blank Rome DC 1 Yes Yes</p>
<p>6/11/2008 Thacher Proffitt &amp; Wood US 36 No Yes</p>
<p>6/23/2008 Powell Goldstein US &lt;10 No Yes</p>
<p>7/1/2008 Patton Boggs Dallas 4 Yes Yes</p>
<p>7/1/2008 Patton Boggs US 5 Yes Yes</p>
<p>7/14/2008 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LA, SF, San Diego 15 Unk No</p>
<p>7/16/2008 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman East Coast &lt;10 Unk No</p>
<p>7/30/2008 Cadwalader, Wickersham &amp; Taft NYC, Charlotte, London, DC 96 No Yes</p>
<p>8/4/2008 DLA Piper London 1 No Yes</p>
<p>8/6/2008 Sullivan &amp; Worcester Boston &amp; NY 7 Yes No</p>
<p>8/12/2008 Simpson Thacher &amp; Bartlett global 30 Yes No</p>
<p>8/21/2008 Morgan &amp; Finnegan NYC ~4 No Yes</p>
<p>9/22/2008 Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer unknown &lt;5 No Yes</p>
<p>9/25/2008 Heller Ehrman US ~600? No Yes</p>
<p>10/2/2008 Sonnenschein Nath &amp; Rosenthal US 25 No Yes</p>
<p>10/14/2008 Clifford Chance NYC &amp; DC 20 No Yes</p>
<p>10/20/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf Charlotte 8 No Yes</p>
<p>10/20/2008 Katten Muchin Rosenman US 21 No Yes</p>
<p>10/21/2008 Jenner &amp; Block US 10 No Yes</p>
<p>10/22/2008 Dechert US 10 to 30 Yes No</p>
<p>10/23/2008 O&#8217;Melveny &amp; Myers LA 5 Yes Yes</p>
<p>10/27/2008 White &amp; Case Milan 14 No Yes</p>
<p>10/28/2008 Thelen Reid Brown Raysman &amp; Steiner US ~500? No Yes</p>
<p>10/30/2008 Bell Boyd &amp; Lloyd Chicago 10 No Yes</p>
<p>11/3/2008 McKee Nelson NYC 13 No Yes</p>
<p>11/3/2008 McKee Nelson DC 4 No Yes</p>
<p>11/11/2008 Loeb &amp; Loeb US 8 Yes Yes</p>
<p>11/11/2008 White &amp; Case US, London 70 No Yes</p>
<p>11/12/2008 Moore Van Allen Charlotte 20 No Yes</p>
<p>11/13/2008 Orrick, Herrington &amp; Sutcliffe US 40 No Yes</p>
<p>11/14/2008 Greenberg Traurig NYC unk No No</p>
<p>11/19/2008 Brown Rudnick US 20 No Yes</p>
<p>11/20/2008 Mayer Brown US 33 No Yes</p>
<p>11/20/2008 Squire Sanders US &lt;30 Yes Yes</p>
<p>11/21/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf NYC 5 to 11 Unk No</p>
<p>11/21/2008 Fried Frank US 15 Yes No</p>
<p>12/1/2008 Fried Frank US 15 Yes No</p>
<p>12/3/2008 Reed Smith UK 11 No Yes</p>
<p>12/4/2008 Proskauer Rose US 35 No Yes</p>
<p>12/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf NY 11 No Yes</p>
<p>12/4/2008 Dewey &amp; LeBoeuf LA 1 No Yes</p>
<p>12/5/2008 Seyfarth Shaw US 30 No Yes</p>
<p>12/10/2008 Pircher Nichols &amp; Meeks LA, Chicago 8 No Yes</p>
<p>12/10/2008 Howrey Unk ~10 Yes Yes</p>
<p>12/15/2008 Wolf Block US 15 No Yes</p>
<p>12/15/2008 Drinker Biddle US 20 No No</p>
<p>12/17/2008 Gunderson Dettmer US Unk Yes No</p>
<p>1/7/2009 Kirkland &amp; Ellis Chicago 15-25 Yes No</p>
<p>1/7/2009 Dickstein Shapiro NYC &amp; DC 10 No Yes</p>
<p>1/8/2009 Parker Poe NC/SC 13 No Yes</p>
<p>1/8/2009 Baker &amp; McKenzie NYC 6 No Yes</p>
<p>1/8/2009 Clifford Chance London ~80 No Yes</p>
<p>1/9/2009 Wildman Harrold Chicago 10 Yes Yes</p>
<p>1/9/2009 Loeb &amp; Loeb US 4 Unk No</p>
<p>Let me know if I missed something over the last month or so or listed anything incorrectly.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/01/nationwide-layoff-watch-loeb-loeb-layoffs-round-2/comment-page-2/#comment-443192</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard only Loeb Chicago is making decent profits, which is sad because they will be brought down by LA office.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard only Loeb Chicago is making decent profits, which is sad because they will be brought down by LA office.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/01/nationwide-layoff-watch-loeb-loeb-layoffs-round-2/comment-page-2/#comment-443188</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@50 looked at LA and there were 9 associates from Sept &#039;08 who are not there now.  Makes a total of 25 between NY and LA which is a lot in a firm that has around 110 associates as of today.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@50 looked at LA and there were 9 associates from Sept &#8217;08 who are not there now.  Makes a total of 25 between NY and LA which is a lot in a firm that has around 110 associates as of today.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/01/nationwide-layoff-watch-loeb-loeb-layoffs-round-2/comment-page-2/#comment-443185</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since September &#039;08 Loeb is down by 16 associates in NY alone.  Don&#039;t know how many they claim to have added but 16 is a lot to have lost considering that lateralling now is pretty hard so they must be mostly layoffs.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since September &#8217;08 Loeb is down by 16 associates in NY alone.  Don&#8217;t know how many they claim to have added but 16 is a lot to have lost considering that lateralling now is pretty hard so they must be mostly layoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear 45-

Agreed. Have fun.

-46

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear 45-</p>
<p>Agreed. Have fun.</p>
<p>-46</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear 46:

Whatever the size of my book, I walked out the door with it and never looked back, which is why I am out the door for W. Sonoma County as we speak, and why I will be drinking wine and poking around the Graton Gallery this weekend instead of  chasing something that others could snatch away at will.

And I know a Yale grad who left a very profitable boutique dream position the year he made partner—who also seems to be enjoying the finer things in life—with the time to do so as well.

Different strokes…..

Cheers!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear 46:</p>
<p>Whatever the size of my book, I walked out the door with it and never looked back, which is why I am out the door for W. Sonoma County as we speak, and why I will be drinking wine and poking around the Graton Gallery this weekend instead of  chasing something that others could snatch away at will.</p>
<p>And I know a Yale grad who left a very profitable boutique dream position the year he made partner—who also seems to be enjoying the finer things in life—with the time to do so as well.</p>
<p>Different strokes…..</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Loeb &amp; Loeb died when the firm found out that ear piercing malpractice is not a lucrative specialty. It turns out that George Michael is not as good of a client as first thought.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Loeb &amp; Loeb died when the firm found out that ear piercing malpractice is not a lucrative specialty. It turns out that George Michael is not as good of a client as first thought.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/01/nationwide-layoff-watch-loeb-loeb-layoffs-round-2/comment-page-2/#comment-443174</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>45- Eloquently said. Hopefully the size of your book is commensurate with the size of your ego (Although I doubt it).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>45- Eloquently said. Hopefully the size of your book is commensurate with the size of your ego (Although I doubt it).</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/01/nationwide-layoff-watch-loeb-loeb-layoffs-round-2/comment-page-2/#comment-443169</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CLARIFYING MINUTE ORDER

Dear 44:

My order in this case is by analogy to the Leopold and Loeb blood bath, but I would not discount the possibility that blood relations of &quot;the Leopold and Loeb guy&quot; founded this firm.

&quot;Laying off&quot; associates (particularly those who give intemperate peer job performance reviews, tell off the partner in charge of their (dwindling) practice group, and later file stream-of-consciousness-intemperate pro se complaints against the firm--is one thing, but canning partners is quite another.

Yes, this (partnership) is the carrot we have dangled for 10 years to motivate you to abandon all personal life in favor of 12 hour days (4 hours on Saturday), but, sorry, having earned that carrot, we are now unilaterally taking that carrot back.

/s Judge of the Blawgosphere

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CLARIFYING MINUTE ORDER</p>
<p>Dear 44:</p>
<p>My order in this case is by analogy to the Leopold and Loeb blood bath, but I would not discount the possibility that blood relations of &#8220;the Leopold and Loeb guy&#8221; founded this firm.</p>
<p>&#8220;Laying off&#8221; associates (particularly those who give intemperate peer job performance reviews, tell off the partner in charge of their (dwindling) practice group, and later file stream-of-consciousness-intemperate pro se complaints against the firm&#8211;is one thing, but canning partners is quite another.</p>
<p>Yes, this (partnership) is the carrot we have dangled for 10 years to motivate you to abandon all personal life in favor of 12 hour days (4 hours on Saturday), but, sorry, having earned that carrot, we are now unilaterally taking that carrot back.</p>
<p>/s Judge of the Blawgosphere</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/01/nationwide-layoff-watch-loeb-loeb-layoffs-round-2/comment-page-2/#comment-443166</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So wait... was this firm actually started by the Leopold and Loeb guy?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So wait&#8230; was this firm actually started by the Leopold and Loeb guy?</p>
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