wwww

This would never happen at WILDMAN HARROLD

hamas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08L09V0_sg

Can anyone report anything about salaries and bonuses at Jenner?

These guys are crazy at depos... they come roaring into the conference room like the vikings in the Capital One commercials... they are truly wild

Can anyone report anything about salaries and bonuses at Jenner?

Can somebody please explain how this affects associates at WILDMAN HARROLD???

Bruce Jenner's salary is huge. Huger than Texas.

Wildman has good company in Chicago.
Stealth layoffs going on at Jenner and Mayer right now. And now........... oh! now again.

Seriously, some of these "lay-offs" threads are absurd. If a firm fires 10 out of 200 attorneys (or 5%) then how the hell is this considered a "deep cut?" Firms fire this many people every single year for under-performance, but only in this type of economy do they get blasted for it. It's only good business to cut the bottom 5-10% of the class each year.

These conjectures are just dumb. And no, I don't work at Wildman, nor had I ever heard of the firm until it was mentioned in ATL comments.

let's stop freaking everyone out with the histrionics - laying off 5 associates is not "deep cuts" unless the firm only has like 10 associates, in which case no writers at ATL would really care to post the information

i wish my name was wildman

And the SHEEP shall inherit the Earth.

6, hilarious reference. See the Wildman pillagers here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuD3CjuvnxM&feature=related

and here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Actually, where had the WILDMAN HARROLD guy gone? I hadn't seen any comments anymore. He was actually funny as opposed to so many other commentators on this blog.

Even if "only" income partners, laying off partners is pretty extreme, especially under the guise of performance-based "adjustments".

What's in your flesh wallet?

I am not sure how these layoffs were part of the annual review process when two of the associates laid off were first years.

Does Harrold really need to pronounce himself a wild man in the firm name?? That's a bit pompous.

15, what's the deal with that first clip? Did some bank just rip off the Capital One commercial?!

Hopefully this will put to rest this bizarre myth that it is "difficult" to fire minorities in business.

WILDMAN is Capital One? That's crazy -- like Brian Fellows!

But how does this affect associates at FISH & RICHARDSON?

19: It's impossible to figure out that someone is a fuckup after 6 months?

I'm so glad I accepted my summer associate offer at WILDMAN HARROLD!

How does this affect associates at DLA PIPER?

Watch this CBS news video to see the nature of Jews http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev6ojm62qwA

The Pope calls Gaza a concentration camp. http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL8378047

You mean WILDMAN HARROLD is actually a law firm...?

25, it has been 3 months since most first-years started ... maybe less for some.

25: Fuckups or not, it's pretty shitty to put it under the guise of annual performance reviews when first years haven't even gone through performance reviews.

WILDMAN HAROLD subsequently raped Brody Jenner when he couldn't pay his bill.
Now that is wild.
No letter.
No Final Notice.
Straight to the rapin...

29 - my thought exactly

Those are the size and scope of layoffs you see right before a merger. This firm came relatively close to merging with Reed Smith a couple years ago, but it fell through. Now, they are probably a bit more desparate and will probably not get even as good a deal as Reed Smith's last offer. Put them on the Merger Watch.

5, 7: comp at Jenner is individualized, but generally at or near market for salary and bonuses when you make hours. There are instances where salary and bonus are better than market and also instances where you make less than market and no bonus when you don't make hours. As far as this year, associates won't find out anything until the review process begins later this month, although we are hoping that salary adjustments and bonuses will happen as they normally do for those that made hours. The firm had a good year and is busy these days.

how does this affect associates at wildman harolld?

WILDMAN HARROLD does not merge with anyone.

They rape, pillage and claim the Right of Prima Nocta over their adversaries.

Unless the first year shows up to work like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEtIoGQxqQs

...no, I don't think you can conduct a fair performance review of someone in three months. Keep in mind that much of that time likely involved training, and, assuming business was slow, the first-years probably weren't working many projects providing opportunities for performance review.

Which Wildman group was hit hardest, the "attorneys" or the "counselors"?

@34 -- Agreed. Another Chicago firm, Bell Boyd, did the same thing in the weeks prior to the announcement of the K&L Gates handshake. Merger Watch.

40 = Wildman's anal conquest from New Years

Sorry about your anus, bro.

Vintage video of Wildman's founding partner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAkJ-8u3X-o&NR=1

This is a Wildman Harrold pilot program. Some of their attorneys are now at 100% leisure time. Wildman Harrold has won the lifestyle firm crown.

38, lessons learned: (1) white men can't jump, and (2) black men can jump, but they just can't stick the landing.

5% cuts are pretty deep. I remember almost exactly 1 year ago today when CWT "shocked the world" when it revealed it was firing 5% of its attorneys.

Only in a down market do people start saying "its normal for a firm to lay off [or let go, or whatever you want to call it] 5%-10% of its attys each year. When I was in law school (00-03), the word was that biglaw was a stable profession and the risk takers who could deal with regular lay offs went into banking.

3 months is not enough time to evaluate anyone. Takes at least 9 months to a year to find out if someone is going to make it. No way those particular layoffs are performance-related.

In this market, I would not hold those layoffs against those incoming first years, unless Wildman gave me an awful reference on the person.

Oh god, did you have to make a Wildman Harrold post. It'll be weeks before the law students tire of the "how does this affect my chances of getting a job at Wildman Harrold?" cracks. I guess that's better than Hamas v. Israel posts.

*quietly sobs and waxes philosophic about the olden days of yore when ATL was interesting.

wow and this whole time I thought wildman harrold was a joke, or a reference to wilmer hale.

Right of Prima Nocta to 190!

Watch this CBS news video to see the nature of WILDMAN HARROLD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edaJP3Lp0Gg

32 -- What is your source?

Eventually ATL's parent company will get sued for libel. This post is just downright reckless in how it is characterizing these firings as layoffs.

52 = Harrold the Wildman

does Kash date lawyers?

MB Chicago will annouce a FREEZE in the next week. I have high-ranking inside sources that have confirmed this.

WILDMAN makes me nervous.

Brody Jenner & Elie Mystal

55, I have a highly rated inside source that says you should shut the fuck up!

January 9, 2009 10:33 AM
Kirkland's Evaluation Process Might be a Bit More Unpleasant This YearPosted by Zach Lowe

The National Law Journal reports today that Kirkland & Ellis has asked about 15 lawyers, including several non-equity partners, to start looking for other work. The legal blog Above The Law first reported the possible layoffs and said the number might be closer to 25 attorneys, but recruiters in the Chicago area told the NLJ the number was more likely around 15.
The NLJ notes that Chicago firms usually have a larger group of non-equity partners than firms headquartered in other cities. Chi-town firms promote associates to partner level faster, the story says, leaving firms with a glut of partners who will never likely make (or seek) equity status. Kirkland has between 250 and 300 such partners, and they make between $275,000 and $400,000 per year, the story says.
Other Chicago firms have laid off non-equity partners to save money on occasion, the story says. Jenner & Block, Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal, and Mayer Brown have all taken that step in recent years.

Wildman Harold does not fire associates. They simply ask them to play a game called "Shallow Grave"

Keeper of the Shovel

59-

I prefer the game "just the tip."

Here is the information about the Lateral Link posting, from the Washington State Bar Association website, in case you want to know what firm it is.

Business and Corporate Transactional Associate. Schwabe Williamson & Wyatt, a northwest regional law firm, has an opening in the Seattle, WA, office for a full-time associate in the business and corporate practice group. The ideal candidate will have at least three years of experience in some or all aspects of business and corporate practice, including corporate, real estate transactions (purchase, sale and financing), and general business, in addition to excellent research, writing and analytical skills. Schwabe, Williamson provides a team-oriented working environment with competitive salary and benefits. Qualified and interested candidates should submit a cover letter, résumé and law school transcript online at www.schwabe.com/recruitattorneyonlineapply.aspx or directly to Ms. Dori John, director of attorney recruiting, Schwabe Williamson & Wyatt, Pacwest Center, 1211 SW 5th Avenue, Suite 1900, Portland, OR 97204 or via e-mail at djohn@schwabe.com. Schwabe, Williamson & Wyatt is an equal opportunity employer.

60, I don't see why the two games are mutually exclusive.

Wildman doesn't fire, it ro-sham-bos into submission, like so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCzb1uZhVXY&feature=PlayList&p=84874918832926E7&playnext=1&index=23

Harrold going Wildman on minorities

52 says: "Eventually ATL's parent company will get sued for libel. This post is just downright reckless in how it is characterizing these firings as layoffs."

Yes, because it's plainly a false statement of fact to call layoffs "deep," when as a factual matter they are not "deep."

52, you should contact Wildman Harrold and offer them your legal representation. Try to coax a $10K retainer out of them, but take the rest on contingency so you can get that mad money!

I predict a bunch of laid off first year biglaw associates will commit suicide this year. The layoffpwnage + 150k non-dischargeable debt is a recipe for disaster. If anything else is going wrong in their lives, I don't see how they can will themselves through that.

52, you are an idiot. Characterizing firings as layoffs is not a statement of fact, and there is no way in hell it is possible to prove damages resulting from such a categorization. Go back to failing 1L.

I wish Wildman Harrold would stop going so deep into Brody Jenner's ass.

B. Jenner

Somebody has to stop this firm. They have been ransacking the coast of Michigan's Upper Peninsula for weeks.

BALLS DEEP IN SHEEP

ambush

Agree with 55.

69 -
Ohh nooo - not da Yupee! Dem yupers 'el takem ahn sumthin' fierce doncha know...

How is it legal to retroactively freeze salaries? Unless a freeze is for the period from when it was announced forward, wouldn't it be considered failure to pay earned amounts? Anything after when raises are historically effective (e.g., Jan 1) should not be retroactive, regardless of whether it's announced before the first paycheck of the period is cut (in arrears).

How does this affect the layoffs at Cahill?

Cahill = racist

Did Brody Jenner have a rape clause in his retainer agreement with WILDMAN?

This is a real firm ? I always thought the Wildman Harrold references were to a Grisham novel/movie.

78 -- Stupid, fat and lazy is no way to go through life, son.

Word on the street is that Wildman is looking for a merger opportunity. I hear that SEARMAN WILDMAN is in the works.

79 -- the line is "fat, drunk and stupid ...." You idiot.

78

77 -- I'm giggling like a schoolgirl at the post.

74: You're an idiot. No associate is entitled to a pay raise. The fact they are traditionally given to all associates and at a particular time doesn't create any sort of entitlement.

74 - It would be illegal if they did the following:

Give you your first paycheck of the year with a raise amount in it.
Then announce retroactive freezes.
Then give somebody a paycheck at last year's rate, and deduct the amount of raise pay in the first paycheck.

However, it's not illegal to do the following:
Give your first paycheck of the year with a raise amount in it.
Then announce retroactive freezes.
Then give somebody a paycheck at last year's rate, and let them keep the raise amount from the first paycheck as a clerical error.

The first is deduction of earned wages. The second is them deciding to pay you what they want to pay you, which is perfectly legal. Unless you have a binding employment contract dictating otherwise, they can cut you down to $500 a week if they feel it's appropriate.

How is this affecting the used car dealership employment litigation practice at WILDMAN HARROLD?

Wildman Harrold is actually a law firm?

is this a real law firm or an elaborate internet hoax?

Where the Negroes at?

Was Wildman Harrold involved in the layoffs at Cahill?

How does this affect associates at Baron & Budd?

I wonder how many coloreds... I, I mean Negroes.... I, I mean darkies were laidoff?

So the firm confirmed that there were "approximately" 5 partners and 5 associates fired?

I guess in WILDMAN HARROLD's version of mathematics, 9 income partners and 4 associates equals "approximately" 5 and 5. Becuase they let go of 9 income partners and 4 associates, 2 of whom were first years who had been working for 3-4 months.

The motivation to downplay news like this is understandable, but isn't there a distinct difference between downplaying and lying?

92, how many first years were in the class? Any idea how the firm decided which ones to cut?

I agree that the spin gets old. What's wrong with a firm just stating "Economy is down, business is down, a few cuts are necessary"? That's how we all interpret the announcements anyhow.

Wildman and Pillsbury should merge to form PILLSBURY WILDMAN.

*poke*

He he... hehehehehehehehohohohoBWAHAHAHAHA!

WILDMAN WILDMAN WILDMAN WILDMAN WILDMAN WILDMEN WILDMAN WILDMAN WILDMAN WILDMAN

So the firm confirmed that there were "approximately" 5 partners and 5 associates fired?

I guess in WILDMAN HARROLD's version of mathematics, 9 income partners and 4 associates equals "approximately" 5 and 5, because those are the actual numbers.

The motivation to downplay news like this is understandable, but isn't there a distinct difference between downplaying and lying?

HARROLD is so WILD that he doesn't know how many lawyers he laid off, MAN!

94: Boo yah! TITCR

93: The two first years were the only first years in corporate.

93 - Sorry for the double post, computer hiccup. I don't know how many first years were in the class and I don't know how what made them cut the ones they did. I'm still shocked they couldn't tell the truth about how many people were let go, and said it was part of the yearly review process despite the fact that 2 first years were sent packing. Its not like the giant economic crisis is some secret. Just tell the truth, WILD MAN!

93: The two first years were the only first years in corporate.

Thanks for the update,

93

I think WILDMAN was a little harsh and HARROLD went a little too deep on Mr. Brody Jenner.

IMHO

92 and 93: What is your source for this information?

Wildman Harrold will be reduced to a middling boutique firm or out of business completely within 2 years. It is a classic mid-size firm in a big city who lives under the delusion that they have wondrous practice strength across the board and can compete with any national firm in the land. They can't. Hence why they are on the outside looking in during the merger consolidation frenzy. If they were smart they would very rapidly find a firm that wants to acquire what might remain intriguing about their practice and client base.

Wildman Harrold will be reduced to a middling boutique firm or out of business completely within 2 years. It is a classic mid-size firm in a big city who lives under the delusion that they have wondrous practice strength across the board and can compete with any national firm in the land. They can't. Hence why they are on the outside looking in during the merger consolidation frenzy. If they were smart they would very rapidly find a firm that wants to acquire what might remain intriguing about their practice and client base.

Hey 11, you are a dumbshit. This is only the beginning idiot. Your job will go. Trust me. All of your jobs are going. You are all greedy fools and you will all go down with the ship of fools. China owns you and unless we nuke them we will be their bitches!!

The firm also announced a salary freeze this afternoon.

Wildman Harrold, HA! I'm just Wildman about Harrold.

What POS outfit.

I unfortunately worked for Wildman in the past. The comments above are just the tip of the iceberg and are not exaggerations. This year will not be the first where an associate has taken a dive off the 30th floor library balcony. The Wildman "official story" is that he "accidentally" fell while climbing onto the ledge to retrieve a document. Wildman now keeps the balcony door locked in an effort to prevent the entire firm from jumping to their death like rats from a sinking ship.

A clear, concise, and cogent post...however, this discussion is an utter failure with respect to its analysis on the impact these layoffs will have on WILDMAN HARROLD'S babysitting law practice group.

Worked for Wildman in the past? So you got fired back when it actually was performance and not a cover for lack of work?

omg. i didn't think this was a real firm. i thought it was made up by atl commentators a la upenn state! funny funny.

Meanwhile, Crazy Eddie is slashing prices on TVs, DVDs, and CD players. His prices are insane!

Probably the same group that has been pursuing a contingency only patent case since 2003 that has done nothing but go disastrously for them. They had to have lost MILLIONS on it. Oh, well, life sucks!

This would never happen at Wildman!!

I worked for Wildman in the past. It is a terrible workplace -- run like Hitler was in charge. Attorneys have no say in staffing decisions. People are treated horribly. Attorneys/paralegals/other staff are treated like dirt while those in charge remain in charge of sinking the ship. They want to merge -- who would want to marry into such a dysfunctional family?

What does this mean for unfortunate sap 2Ls who accepted offers at WILDMAN HARROLD?

114-You forgot cassette players too!

Having previously worked at WHAD, and having left of my own accord, it is my opinion that those who were fired were done a favor, even given the current economic conditions. It is my further opinion that its management bases decisions on whims, lies easily, and creates a negative general atmosphere where the least capable are retained and given management positions.

Ah, schadenfreude. Laid off from White Shoe Big Law? Too bad, so sad...now you can join the ranks of the 90% of the rest of the profession and practice REAL law. You'll just love doing misdeameanor defense cases, forcibles and family law. Yea, family law - so much fun - and so profitable when they're fighting over the four chairs and kitchen table. Welcome to the real world!

Gee, If business is that bad Wildman can always go back and do insurance defense work. That's what they did years ago before they got swelled heads.

I am also an ex-Wildman attorney. There is much to criticize about the firm, but the comments by 110 and 117 are uncalled for. The death referred to by 110 was tragic regardless of the hows and whys and shouldn't be reduced to type of casual banter thrown around by 110. It is still shocking to many of us who were there that night, over a decade later. Given that Wildman's managing partner is the son of Holocaust survivors, 117's reference to Hitler is offensive. Criticize it if you will, but have some class.

Anyone that summers at Wildman went to a 3rd tier law school and could not get any other offer, Wildman is a TTT piece of shit

Welcome to the wonderful world of Wildman. It is not performance evaluations, hours worked or cases won that determine your sucess or failure at Wildman---It's based solely on who you know and who you blow.

I actually fucked several Wildman partners up the ass...one jizzed on his desk while I shot my load up his ass doggie style.

I actually fucked several Wildman partners up the ass...one jizzed on his desk while I shot my load up his ass doggie style.

126-127 - Let me guess - it was White, right?

117 stands by its words (remember the 28 people who lost their jobs in 8/07)...left on my own with another position in line...it depends on who you deal with as to how you are handled. You can always work at WHAD while continuing to seek employment elsewhere...we all need a paycheck and benefits in this current environment. When an associate left another Chicago law firm to join WHAD and went elsewhere in under one year, it tells you that it is not a place to stay for long unless you want to become like those around you -- under-performing, heartless assholes. Audrey Hepburn was a lady unlike the one currently in office at WHAD. It is time for change -- at all levels including managing partner, CFO, HR director, accounting, on and on....