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	<title>Comments on: Latham &amp; Watkins: Two IP Partners Leave</title>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/02/latham-watkins-two-ip-partners-leave/comment-page-7/#comment-522158</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am ex-Latham and ex-McKinsey. I did some seriously cone-headed work in L&amp;W DC and didn&#039;t find it to be much of a fratfhouse. I did, however find it to be a well-run enterprise and one that tended to treat its associates as respected adults. Granted, that was during good economic times.

You may or may not agree with the above. Regardless, having swum in other industries, my question is why you believe people working in law firms are or should be immune from headcount reductions in times of economic contraction? Why would the legal profession enjoy such a privileged position as to be the sole sector of the economy where there are no layoffs?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am ex-Latham and ex-McKinsey. I did some seriously cone-headed work in L&amp;W DC and didn&#8217;t find it to be much of a fratfhouse. I did, however find it to be a well-run enterprise and one that tended to treat its associates as respected adults. Granted, that was during good economic times.</p>
<p>You may or may not agree with the above. Regardless, having swum in other industries, my question is why you believe people working in law firms are or should be immune from headcount reductions in times of economic contraction? Why would the legal profession enjoy such a privileged position as to be the sole sector of the economy where there are no layoffs?</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/02/latham-watkins-two-ip-partners-leave/comment-page-7/#comment-522157</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #247 - Why didn&#039;t YOU move if there were open seats all over the place.  Just curious.  Seems like there was more than just one jerk on that flight.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #247 &#8211; Why didn&#8217;t YOU move if there were open seats all over the place.  Just curious.  Seems like there was more than just one jerk on that flight.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #247 - Why did YOU move if there were open seats all over the place.  Just curious.  Seems like there was more than just one jerk on that flight.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #247 &#8211; Why did YOU move if there were open seats all over the place.  Just curious.  Seems like there was more than just one jerk on that flight.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/02/latham-watkins-two-ip-partners-leave/comment-page-7/#comment-522155</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry you&#039;re resentful 253, but the smarter ones left for other jobs a long time ago, the rest will continue to spout the party line at work and tell the truth only here until they&#039;re fired.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry you&#8217;re resentful 253, but the smarter ones left for other jobs a long time ago, the rest will continue to spout the party line at work and tell the truth only here until they&#8217;re fired.</p>
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		<title>By: jstrummer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of talking about FIRMS etc that are going to fail, let&#039;s talk about AREAS of LAW that are going to WHITHER on the vine:

IP Law - IP law works in a world where there&#039;s excess capital to, you know, make music and trademarks and there&#039;s value in protecting them. That&#039;s NOT this world.  Patent law is somewhat more safe because of the inherent value of the underlying product.

Family Law - Historically, divorces and separations fall in weaker economies as families burdened by mortgages or the expense of separation learn to deal with one another.  This area is dead.

Business Torts - Less business, fewer torts, although this may be a wash as it

Anything with the word &quot;International&quot; - DONE. OVER. KAPUT.

General Business Finance &amp; Transactions - Yah.  Maybe you can get some of that STIMULUS or TARP money.  Hehe.

Lobbying - WAY UP.  But this requires that you 1) have some juice and 2) aren&#039;t an idiot law student who didn&#039;t do anything else in his or her life.

Government Work - Everyone who doesn&#039;t have a job as of this spring is going to be clamoring to work at the Bureau of Such and Such or the Department for the Preservation of This Or That.  Competition will be fierce for this jobs that, compared to the big law firm jobs of yesteryear, pay nothing.  But hey, at least you can make some progress on your student loans... hopefully.

What&#039;s going to be a decent - i.e., paying - area of law:

Bankruptcy - Duh.

Trusts &amp; Estates - People always die, and those who do will leave behind people clamoring for money in these hard economic times.  People always plan for death.  People always need to estate plan.  BUY GOLD!

Personal Injury - AWESOME! Sue the other mo-fo for some money. It&#039;s kind of like welfare, but if you&#039;re lucky, you get to have a little trial in court before you get your payoff.

Criminal Law - Yeah, no one, as usual, will be able to pay for this kind of law.  BUT, there will be MORE of it.  And this is one area where, in spite of hell or high water, the government will feel compelled to keep staffing levels the same, or increase them, especially because, my friends, crime will be going up.  Oh yeah, I guess you can become a prosecutor if you want.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of talking about FIRMS etc that are going to fail, let&#8217;s talk about AREAS of LAW that are going to WHITHER on the vine:</p>
<p>IP Law &#8211; IP law works in a world where there&#8217;s excess capital to, you know, make music and trademarks and there&#8217;s value in protecting them. That&#8217;s NOT this world.  Patent law is somewhat more safe because of the inherent value of the underlying product.</p>
<p>Family Law &#8211; Historically, divorces and separations fall in weaker economies as families burdened by mortgages or the expense of separation learn to deal with one another.  This area is dead.</p>
<p>Business Torts &#8211; Less business, fewer torts, although this may be a wash as it</p>
<p>Anything with the word &#8220;International&#8221; &#8211; DONE. OVER. KAPUT.</p>
<p>General Business Finance &amp; Transactions &#8211; Yah.  Maybe you can get some of that STIMULUS or TARP money.  Hehe.</p>
<p>Lobbying &#8211; WAY UP.  But this requires that you 1) have some juice and 2) aren&#8217;t an idiot law student who didn&#8217;t do anything else in his or her life.</p>
<p>Government Work &#8211; Everyone who doesn&#8217;t have a job as of this spring is going to be clamoring to work at the Bureau of Such and Such or the Department for the Preservation of This Or That.  Competition will be fierce for this jobs that, compared to the big law firm jobs of yesteryear, pay nothing.  But hey, at least you can make some progress on your student loans&#8230; hopefully.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s going to be a decent &#8211; i.e., paying &#8211; area of law:</p>
<p>Bankruptcy &#8211; Duh.</p>
<p>Trusts &amp; Estates &#8211; People always die, and those who do will leave behind people clamoring for money in these hard economic times.  People always plan for death.  People always need to estate plan.  BUY GOLD!</p>
<p>Personal Injury &#8211; AWESOME! Sue the other mo-fo for some money. It&#8217;s kind of like welfare, but if you&#8217;re lucky, you get to have a little trial in court before you get your payoff.</p>
<p>Criminal Law &#8211; Yeah, no one, as usual, will be able to pay for this kind of law.  BUT, there will be MORE of it.  And this is one area where, in spite of hell or high water, the government will feel compelled to keep staffing levels the same, or increase them, especially because, my friends, crime will be going up.  Oh yeah, I guess you can become a prosecutor if you want.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking that the Latham lawyers who have written in these comments that they &quot;made a bad decision&quot; or &quot;are regretting their decision&quot; to work at Latham.  Should go ahead and quit.  Perhaps then someone who actually has no problem working for Latham might be able to keep their job.  If you don&#039;t like it quit - duh.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking that the Latham lawyers who have written in these comments that they &#8220;made a bad decision&#8221; or &#8220;are regretting their decision&#8221; to work at Latham.  Should go ahead and quit.  Perhaps then someone who actually has no problem working for Latham might be able to keep their job.  If you don&#8217;t like it quit &#8211; duh.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking those at LW who don&#039;t like the atmosphere should just go ahead and quit - that way the people who actually want to stay there might not get laid-off.  Don&#039;t like working there - go elsewhere - simple.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking those at LW who don&#8217;t like the atmosphere should just go ahead and quit &#8211; that way the people who actually want to stay there might not get laid-off.  Don&#8217;t like working there &#8211; go elsewhere &#8211; simple.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking those at LW who don&#039;t like the atmosphere should just go ahead and quit - that way the people who actually want to stay there might not get laid-off.  Don&#039;t like working there - go elsewhere - simple.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking those at LW who don&#8217;t like the atmosphere should just go ahead and quit &#8211; that way the people who actually want to stay there might not get laid-off.  Don&#8217;t like working there &#8211; go elsewhere &#8211; simple.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why the hell didnt you move instead of asking latham partner to move?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why the hell didnt you move instead of asking latham partner to move?</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>248 you&#039;re an idiot.  I am a lawyer and I work in bridge construction.  My name is Ted Nugent.  I&#039;m also going to have to pull rank on you.  I&#039;m with the mattress police, and there are no tags on any of these mattresses.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>248 you&#8217;re an idiot.  I am a lawyer and I work in bridge construction.  My name is Ted Nugent.  I&#8217;m also going to have to pull rank on you.  I&#8217;m with the mattress police, and there are no tags on any of these mattresses.</p>
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