Notes from the Breadline: Strike Another Match, Go Start Anew
Ed. note: Welcome to the latest installment of “Notes from the Breadline,” a new column by a laid-off lawyer in New York. Prior columns are collected here. You can reach Roxana St. Thomas by email, at roxanastthomas@gmail.com, or find her on Facebook.
There are moments in life that portend tectonic change. It is possible, even before you can tell whether you are facing a perennial shift or simply a fleeting adjustment, to know that something — or perhaps everything — is different. In movies and on television, these moments are usually accompanied by musical cues, dramatic camera angles, or the distinctive drumline of the song that will narrate the aftermath of such a transformation. In reality, nothing quite so obvious happens. Your dog dies, your relationship fails, you graduate from law school, pass the bar, get married, win a jury trial, fall in love… and you find yourself wondering why events of this magnitude don’t leave a visible mark, if only to spare you the banal task of describing something that feels so profound. Unless you are unfortunate enough to lose an eye or grow a horn, you’ve got some ‘splainin’ to do.
As it turns out, being “terminated” abruptly on a bright winter morning is just such a moment. When it comes to getting laid off, there is a distinct “before” and “after” — and standing outside your office chain-smoking delays, but does not prevent, your arrival in the after.
After far too many cigarettes, I wander back upstairs, suddenly aware that everyone around me looks busy. They are on their way to make phone calls, or attend meetings, or engage in whatever it is that I am no longer needed for. I get off the elevator and go straight to the restroom, where I confirm that a bright red letter (perhaps an “L,” for “loser,” or maybe a “C,” for “canned”) has not appeared on my bosom. I look fired, I think, knowing as I do that firing probably does not leave a visible aura. Still, I feel like an impostor, or someone dressed in a particularly lame Halloween costume, and I am mildly surprised when my card key still unlocks the door. I am already a ghost in this office: rendered irrelevant, but bound to roam the halls alongside the functioning members of its tiny, carpeted world.
Before I can make it back to my desk, I am accosted by my friend Dave, a paralegal. He waves me into his office, where he is sitting anxiously on the edge of his seat, and tells me to close the door behind me. “I can’t fucking believe this,” he says, staring at his computer screen. I am certain that he is about to tell me that he has been “let go” as well, and my stomach clenches. Not Dave, too, I think. I happen to know that he has just finished purchasing a kegerator and a home entertainment center, and I have a terrible vision of both being hauled away by the repo man while Dave stands on his front stoop with an empty beer stein, sobbing.
My fear is short-lived; he is about to consummate a transaction on Hotwire, and if his research is accurate, he has scored a room in a “fucking amazing” four-star hotel for $192 a night. If he is wrong, he has just treated himself to three nights and four days in a “fucking shithole.” He grabs my arm nervously before he hits enter, holding his breath. It works; he will be staying in the hotel he wanted. He springs up and throws his arms in the air, as if he has just nailed a landing from the uneven bars, and I find myself caught in a surreal flurry of high-fiving and fist-pumping. Overwhelmed with relief, he regales me with a detailed account of his booking coup d’etat, promising to send me a link to a website he used. I feel myself slipping away as he talks, unable to comprehend the idea of a vacation. I wonder if we can talk about particle colliders or tulip bulbs; both would seem less strange right now.
When the conversation finally turns to work, however, I find myself unable to respond. “Did you get any assignments?” Dave asks, aware that I have had very little to do recently. “No,” I say slowly. “I think I’m going to get fired.”
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Moments later, alone in my office, I wonder why I couldn’t tell Dave the truth. Of course, I didn’t want to spoil his Hotwire elation, but there is more to it than that. Although I know, as an intellectual matter — and because Bob of Human Resources said so — that my “termination” was a matter of economic expedience, I am ashamed nonetheless.
I did not choose this profession because I thought I would make a million dollars and buy a boat, or because I was unsure about what to do with my life. Like many of my peers, I paid for my own education, worked hard at being a better lawyer, and spent my share of nights, weekends, and holidays cloistered in the office. Friends returned from long weekends tan and relaxed, while I emerged covered with paper cuts, blinking like a mole in bright light. I forgot birthdays, but remembered Bates ranges and hot docs. Now, sitting in my office, surrounded by the detritus of my own futile efforts, I am not shocked by the realization that, at the end of the day, the sacrifices I made were not definitive. Nonetheless, I cannot help but feel demeaned.
Sooner or later, I will have to say the “F” word: fired. I consider the alternatives, which consist mostly of pretending that I still have a job. I realize, however, that in this market it might be difficult to maintain the charade. I picture myself months from now, at a Memorial Day barbecue, engaging in vague banter when asked about work. “Oh, you know, the usual,” I see myself saying, fiddling nervously with an ear of corn. “Just some, um… subpoena compliance, and, uh, an internal investigation… nothing I can really talk about.” Attorney-client privilege, I think gratefully, can shut down virtually any conversation.
While I am still considering the idea, I unexpectedly remember Laura Wingfield, the character in the “The Glass Menagerie,” a play I haven’t read since high school. Laura cannot bear to admit that she has stopped going to typing class; although she leaves the house every day and pretends to go to school, she is really wandering the city and sitting in the park. “Note to self,” I think, “avoid behaving like mentally unstable woman with pathological attachment to glass unicorn.” It’s a beginning.
Reality intrudes on my reverie when the phone rings. It is my uncle, a lawyer at a Big Firm in another city, whom I called earlier in the day. We exchange pleasantries and I ask him about work, believing for the moment that we may not get around to discussing my situation at all. As if on cue, my uncle changes the subject. “How’s work?” he asks bluntly, and I realize that I am trapped. “Well,” I begin, explaining how slow things have been lately. My words come out in an addled jumble, until I finally get to the punch line. “Anyway,” I hear myself say, “so I got laid off.” There is a brief pause, and then he says, “You’re kidding.” “Yes,” I snap, suddenly irritated. “I’m kidding. Was that funny?”
I am met with confused silence, and I assure him that I have, in fact, been laid off. In an effort to avoid actually thinking about what I have to say, I try to channel Bob. I wish desperately that we could sit around a Ouija board while Bob, joining us from the Human Resources netherworld, painstakingly helped us spell out, “S-H-E W-A-S F-I-R-E-D. J-U-S-T L-I-K-E T-HA-T.” Then I could leave the room, and Bob could field questions. Alas, Bob has forsaken me. “What are you going to do?” my uncle asks. “I don’t know,” I tell him. “I don’t know.” I hear myself repeating these words, over and over, and I realize that it is time to get off the phone.
I also realize that I need to talk to someone who is closer to the world I live in, who can understand what I am trying to comprehend. I call my best friend from law school, Molly, who, while out on maternity leave a month before, was told by her firm that it was “time to end the relationship.” Molly’s husband is a partner at a Big Firm, so the loss of her job, oddly couched in the terms one might use to accomplish an extremely efficient breakup, was not particularly catastrophic. Molly answers the phone in a whisper, and tells me that she just came from a funeral. “Jesus, I’m sorry,” I say. “I’ll call you later.”
No, she reassures me, the deceased was a friend of her grandmother’s, whom she barely knew. “In that case,” I have an urge to say, “I’ll see your dead person, and I’ll raise you one unfortunate employment action!” Instead, I tell her bluntly, “I just got laid off.” Silence.
“You’re kidding,” she finally says. I wonder whether I am unaware of a recent cultural phenomenon that has rendered the delivery of layoff news inexplicably funny. No, I explain again, I am not kidding. Where is Bob when I need him? I think plaintively. Molly snaps into lawyer mode, asking me whether I am expected to come into the office to work for the next few weeks, or if I will be free to start my job search immediately. When will I get my last check? Will I remain on the firm’s website after I leave? Will I get my tech bonus? It’s part of my salary, isn’t it? She presses me to remember what happened in the meeting, and grills me about what questions I asked.
I realize, somewhat sheepishly, that I was too concerned, during the meeting, about the imminent possibility that I would vomit on someone to make inquiries about my professional welfare. “I don’t know,” I find myself saying, again and again. “This just happened.” She sounds exasperated. “You need to get some more information,” she tells me sternly. I know she is right, but it makes me tired to think about it. “Look,” I say finally, “I just needed to say this to you. I don’t feel like it’s real yet.” She softens immediately, reminding me that she loves me and will do anything she can to help. Anything? I think, and picture myself delivering a pile of student loan bills to her door.
When we get off the phone, I am aware that I have learned the first lesson of post-employment: it is exhausting. My experience this morning with Bob and the assignment partner was deeply unpleasant, and has become no less so in subsequent reenactments. Nonetheless, I need to tell my (perpetually distraught) friend and colleague, Giovanna. I have no idea whether other people in the office know what has happened, and I don’t want her to hear from anyone else. I have been trying to track her down all morning, to no avail, and when I finally reach her she is out to lunch with a friend. As soon as she returns, I ask her to take a walk with me, realizing as I do so that I am full of apprehension — not because of my situation, but because I know that I will never again be able to convince her that her job is safe. Giovanna is an inveterate worrier, and nothing I say to try to distinguish our situations will stick.
Since it is a special occasion of sorts, we walk to Starbucks. On the way, Giovanna tells me about the friend she had lunch with, who has just been laid off from a Big Firm. After three years, and without ever having gotten a bad review, her friend was let go because of “performance issues.” Even three months ago, the friend’s plight would have seemed grossly unfair; now it is par for the course. There is something about our vulnerability, as lawyers, that makes me think of the Whack-a-Mole arcade game. How fitting, I think, since we spend so much time in dark burrows, essentially blind to everything around us. We laugh at our own defenselessness. “What the fuck?” Giovanna says, shaking her head. “What the fuck?” Despite her friend’s bad news, she is cheerful, and I dread having to deliver my own.
Finally, as we are nearing the office, I tell her that I have been given the proverbial pink slip. “You’re kidding,” she says. This time, I let it slide. “Totally serious,” I say, and, once again, I describe the morning meeting. She does not know what to say, and I can tell that she is more fearful than ever. I immediately launch into the differences between us: I have been at the firm for less than two years, while she has been there for nearly four; I tend to work on a collection of unrelated cases, whereas she was part of an important trial team; I spent a lot of time on a group of bank cases, which vanished a few months earlier.
“Honestly,” I tell her, “I’m almost relieved. At least now I don’t have to wonder when I’ll get axed.” I can tell that she is not comforted, and that no amount of certainty would make the relief I describe even remotely palatable.
When I sit down in my office again, it is late afternoon. I do not think that I can have The Conversation again today. Of course, nothing is that simple: I have just started seeing someone, and even though it is early — too early to have a problem this big; too early to be unemployed, afloat — I conclude that, if I do not tell him, it will make for a very awkward third date. Since, I decide, e-mail was made for just such occasions, I compose a message to him:
My firm started doing some recession-driven downsizing, and I am among the downsized. That sounds like it would at least be slimming, but it’s not. I am trying to find the elusive bright side of being unemployed in this shitty economy, and what I’ve come up with is that this may be my opportunity to enjoy monk-like austerity. Also, I eat way too much sushi and have been meaning to reduce my mercury consumption, so this is a perfect time to work on that. Any other ideas are welcome.
I steel myself for a long, ambiguous e-mail silence, and am pleasantly surprised when he responds in less than fifteen minutes. “Ouch,” Cliff writes. “That sucks, and I’m really sorry. I hope they at least packaged you out well enough to survive for a while. Seriously… I’m way sorry. Look at it as a way to regroup, and think about what really matters to you. I know that sounds cheesy, but it really works. Dr. Phil told me.” Then, he adds, “before you leave, crack an egg in the supply closet, or in your boss’s desk. Just make sure it’s the day you leave … not today.”
I think it is the best advice I have gotten yet.
Earlier: Prior installments of Notes from the Breadline
Roxana St. Thomas is a laid-off lawyer living in New York. You can reach her by email, at roxanastthomas@gmail.com, or find her on Facebook.




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Another solid column, Roxana.
Very well-written. Great post. Thanks.
A little long, but worth it.
This column is seriously well-written. Lat, Elie, Kash, Marin, keep this one around for as long as you can.
Laughing and trembling at the same time.
Beautiful column.
Mirrors my own experience...particularly how everyone says "you're kidding."
I was also taken aback by how tiring the whole experience was. Odd, no...although it may just be the rebound from trying not to puke on the MP's shoes as the axe was dropped.
Well written but a bit wordy...
great writing
This is nicely done but SO DEPRESSING......
That feeling of being a ghost is very true. No scarlet "L" or "C", but in the two weeks I had to wrap up my affairs and clean out my office, I definitely dressed down - sweatshirt and baseball hat. It made me stand out, but what did I care?
Also, Roxana captures that feeling of being embarrassed even though there's nothing really to feel embarrassed about (as a non-performance-based termination). Still, I moved out boxes of my stuff on the weekend.
Very well done. Every time I read this column I get hit by a little wave of naseau. It could be me, and probably will be before the year is up.
It's funny how she felt the "L" and "C" but the paralegal did not notice at all. Right after I was laid off I was riding in the elvator back to my floor and someone had the nerve to ask how I was doing. I waived the layoff notice (it wasn't pink) at him and said just fine -- that shut him up nicely.
I prefer the masterful prose of the wordsmith himself, Belly Fystfull.
A little dramatic. You were fired - not sent to a concentration camp. It's not the end of the world.
Solid Dylan reference, Roxana.
Wow, Roxana, you're a great writer. My gut tells me you will land on your feet with skills like yours. I know my gut doesn't pay those law school tuition bills, but good luck to you.
Leaving departing "gifts" for those remaining has resulted in some interesting findings. One associate left a fish behind a file cabinet and other left a bunch of bananas behind the trim of a 10 ft tall cabinet! Talk about lasting impressions or leaving a mark!
Wow, Roxana, you're a great writer. My gut tells me you will land on your feet with skills like your's, whether in law or in something else. I know my gut doesn't pay those law school tuition bills, but good luck to you.
The author makes a "realization" or "reality" hits her over ten times in the short story. I think getting fired was obviously good for her as it seems that she was completely out of touch with reality and living in la la land before this happened.
i think roxana is a he.
excellent work.
As a 2L, reading these articles is pretty depressing. But at least you write very well.
Needs editing, please! It reads like a assignment for a freshman creative writing class.
11, is "naseau," that new french stomach bug going around?
I actually found this post to be tedious and dull. The author takes several wordy paragraphs to take the reader through about 30 seconds of real time. I realize that the shock of getting canned and the attempt to digest the event are themselves slow, surreal and tedious experiences, but that doesn't mean they're well-served by equally slow, tedious and and overly thoughtful writing that can't seem to get out of its own way long enough to keep an narrative moving at a good and interesting pace.
Just sayin'.
Really nice piece. Thank you for this.
The author makes a "realization" or "reality" hits her over ten times in the short story. I think getting fired was obviously good for her as it seems that she was completely out of touch with reality and living in la la land before this happened.
The writing is great. As someone who has been through the experience, "Roxana" captures the emotions and telling details very well.
I think the reason people respond to the layoff announcement with "you're kidding" is not because we think it is funny, but because we would rather believe that our friend had just made a horribly un-funny joke than that they were really fired.
That's why I've said it, anyway.
"Overwhelmed with relief, he regales me with a detailed account of his booking coup d'etat...."
Fail.
A coup, perhaps, but not a coup d'etat.
As much as the author appears to love the thesaurus, it's a pity she couldn't look up that one.
i'm with 23. too long, too wordy.
Well written, and very eye-opening to think about just how many people are actually dealing with this issue on a daily basis over the past couple of months. Including several people you know, even if they haven't told you yet. Man.
I am 4 weeks post firing, 6 weeks pre- name-removed-from-website reality.
I still come to the office everyday, do a bit of wrap-up work, and keep networking for a new position, which is itself akin to walking a tight-rope over a valley of glass shards. Nauseating is the reality that I have 6 weeks to land a new position before the dreaded resume gap rears its ugly head.
I hear you on the "ghost" thing, although I now find it quite therapeutic to tell others that I got fired. People keep telling me that I look happier -- relieved -- and that they, too, wish that they had other options (which is really just anecdotal evidence that everyone is sheltering-in-place until the storm passes).
#28: They are the same thing.
What are the chances of this happening to a summer associate. Once you report, you're probably OK for the duration, right? Right?
-nervous sandwich stealing Michigan 1L
hoping to be nervous 1L sa, but maybe just unemployed
It's nice to be in the shoes of "Molly" - married to a Biglaw partner, making work optional.
The thing that sucks with the "You're kidding!" reaction is that it makes it seem as though getting laid-off is some crazy, not-to-be-believed anomaly. This is happening all over the place! I would much rather people act as though it wasn't that exotic an occurrence and simply offer sympathy and advice.
I wonder if this is Lat writing under a pseudonym again. Whoever wrote this, it's really good. I wish the associates I work with could write like this.
Hello, reality. Nice to meet you.
The column is verbose, but self-aware of that in a sense. I suppose it's good to know there are decent writers out there in the corporate law world. You should consider litigation when you return to practice, where one can actually channel those skills into something tangible and useful.
But otherwise, I'm unimpressed. Boo-hoo, you got fired from your six-figure salary BigLaw job. You still have money, don't make it sound like you're heading for the bread line. That's an insult to the millions who are truly in that position. Try living as a recent law school graduate/admitted attorney, where the only work you can find unless you have a family connection is part time and contract work that pays $20-30 an hour. Thats no breadline, but they sure don't provide a "tech bonus".
I think I'm going to be ill.
Flaccid and disappointing. Cut length.
"You're kidding" = I can't believe that you were laid off because you are a good attorney and not a waste of space sucking up valuable air for the rest of us.
Nobody thinks it's a joke. Some of us have already been there.
33, all bets are off in terms of summer associate survival. However, odds are probably in your favor - it would be exceedingly odd for a firm to axe you after 2 or three weeks. They'd probably just cancel your summer associateship entirely, or not extend an offer at the end of the summer. Good luck out there.
I'm coming for you, Nervous 1L. There's a Friday the 13th in March too, and I have an offer-rescinding letter with your name on it.
37 - perhaps if you were a slightly more attentive reader, you would have less trouble job hunting. The story makes abundantly clear that the writer is a litigator.
I wonder if this is Lat writing under a pseudonym again.
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Are you high?
When did Lat write under a pseudonym? I see his byline all the time.
wow imagine reading this and then hope winters right afterwards.... i wouldnt want to fire hope, id want to f-cking shoot her like a broken race horse
Is it common to negotiate with the firm when you get axed? For example if you get 3 months can you ask for it to be paid over 6 months and be kept on the firm's book for 6 months? The firm gets a cash cushion + interest and you get no gaps in your resume since it will take at least that long to find a job.
This made me want to cry, and I'm only a 3L. Good story - keep it up.
I. AM. SO. FUCKED.
46, You can definitely negotiate with the firm after getting fired. As a rule of thumb, you don't want to ask for payments over time, because if the firm is in such dire straits that they're laying people off, that money might not be there in six months.
Better to ask for other assistance - extended health insurance coverage, relocation expenses (if applicable), job placement, bar dues, etc. Whatever you can get on top of your severance is worth asking for. What are they going to do, fire you?
Smile, Nervous 3L. If you can handle the truth, I'm sure JAG is hiring. Hoorah, Marine!
Nice piece! But I must say,
I feel like I have battered spouse syndrome. My rational mind does NOT want to read layoff rumors/news. People losing their jobs sucks. BUT, I've had to condition myself to such daily news that my emotional side doesn't feel right unless I'm reading tragic news. It feels like ATL doesn't love me unless it's giving me bad news. Hurt me ATL!
Signed,
happy-to-see-no-layoffs-but-sad-I'm-not-being-abused
What's with all the "too wordy" criticisms? Have you idiots ever read a book? A contract? A brochure? It's okay if it takes longer than 5 minutes to read something.
What's with all the "too wordy" criticisms? Have you idiots ever read a book? A contract? A brochure? It's okay if it takes longer than 5 minutes to read something.
Comment to the people asking whether your firm will keep you on its books/webpage. Firms generally dislike this, because it gives you implied authority as a firm employee. How much damage you can do with it, I don't know.
I wrote it, I'm David Lat. For years I have been secretly working as a litigation associate under a psuedonym.
52: you, sir, are a dumbass. Your comment would apply if the complaint was "too long" or "too many words". The complaint is, instead, that the language is inefficient and that the piece is unnecessarily verbose.
My own amateur psychological take is that Roxana was an English major and is reacting to (perhaps temporary) departure from the practice of law by re-asserting her write to use adjectives and assorted grammatical constructs generally considered verboten in legal writing.
[see? THAT was too wordy. or think about a Fraternity Lothario post]
56 = bingo
53 ... how many semicolons do you use in a day? Count how many are in Roxanne's missive. Verbal diarrhea.(although given the writing style, it appears that "she" finds this therapeutic).
56: ASSerting her write?
I hope that was intentional.
Fantastic piece. Love the bit about emerging from weekends blinking like a mole with papercuts.
58: unfortunately, it was not. Oy. Extra proofreading class for me!
--56
Ditto, 52. The post isn't a jumbled mess of impenetrable word salad, it's just descriptive and long. In an age of facebook statuses, twitter, and texts, I think it's sometimes nice to linger over a story for a little while.
Some people disagree, and might prefer leaner prose, perhaps more in the style of Hemingway or Chekhov, but they shouldn't impose their taste on the author's style. Unless, of course, they have some specific criticism as to how the post fails because of it's length, or where the verbosity is detrimental.
Such intelligent comments would be welcome here, and would add to the quality of the thread. But to say "too long, didn't like it" is pretty well useless.
43 and 44 - See A3G and revise post.
61 again. 56 and 57 are the kind of useful comments I was looking for.
If you don't know about Lat's past as A3G (referenced by 62), read this:
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/11/21/051121ta_talk_toobin
I thought it was a good piece.
As regards logorrhea, it's always a good idea to be mindful of prose economy, but different forms of writing have different standards. Obviously the author of this piece is no PG Wodehouse, but many people find pleasure in "inefficient" styles if they consider the indulgent portions clever or well wrought.
I'd suggest a light edit but think the piece is good. Especially for this site.
Roxana,
If I can waste money on Tucker Max, I can waste money on you. Finish your Dickensian cycle, bundle and publish. Don't forget that you can self-publish on Amazon and through some generally good vendors (ISBN numbers are cheap). Keep it under $15 and 200 pps.
Another great post. I was laid off last month and I felt the exact same emotions she did I this article. This is a great piece. I hope your story - and mine- has a happy ending.
1. This is obviously fiction.
2. If it were not fiction, I would suggest the author stop being so nauseatingly self-centered. People get fired from jobs all the time; most are not lucky enough to have the opportunity to earn as much as big firm lawyers do in the course of their employment.
33, the realistic possibilities are not that you may be "fired" during the summer but that your offer could be pulled or the summer associate program shortened. It's likely that more firms will be using their summer programs as extended interviews and will not be offering permanent positions to as many as in the past. One thing you should determine is whether your firm is laying off first years. If it is, you probably should keep looking quietly.
i got laid off on a thursday. i didn't show up on friday, and went back on saturday to leave get my stuff and organize my files for whoever wants them.
i also got laid off 10 months ago (i was one of the first big-lawyers to have this experience). I've since gotten a job at a smaller firm where I work a lot more and get paid a lot less (believe it). still, at least i've got a job. i'd hate to be among the folks laid off last week.
32, not really. The term coup can refer to a coup d'etat but, in this case, I believe the writer was going for coup in the sense of counting coup.
36,
You are joking right? I know it's supposed to be fictional prose, but "portends techtonic change"? Are you kidding me? If I wrote that in a memo to a partner, I'd get fired. Immediately. And deservedly so. Write that in a brief? You're lucky if the judge's clerk reads the rest of the section. If this "vignette" is anywhere close to representative of the author's legal writing skills, then no wonder she got canned.
Even as prose its just a bunch of maudlin drama queenery. Downside of a bad economy, I guess. Bunch of two bit, hack former English majors come out of the woodwork to blog about their "woes." Go peddle it somewhere else.
too long didn't read
"gwaa... uh-hmmmph..." *cough, cough* "is the glass of water half-full or half-empty?"
72--"Are you kidding me?"
For the last fucking time, no, she's not kidding.
Please moderate this post. Word limit. Something.
I think it reads better if the first paragraph, and first sentence in the second paragraph, are taken out. The rest is outstanding.
i like that 73 couldn't take the time to actually read the post, but had the 10 minutes it takes to comment on ATL. what a tool.
also i love these posts. can't wait to read the one where she gets a new job!
well the world needs ditch diggers too
Roxana St Thomas needs to STOP whining and START learning how to make millions of dollars buying real estate with no money down!
Roxana, still like this column, but your posts do come across as a bit over the top. A little less melodrama would go a long way.
That said, hope things are going well for you and the others who have been laid off.
You lost me here:
"There are moments in life that portend tectonic change."
Your audience is not a bunch of useless law professors who have their heads up in the clouds. Your audience is real people, including real practicing attorneys that do not use words such as "portend" and "tectonic" in briefs or contracts.
50:
"Hoorah" is something a filthy Army leg would say. Any Marine would say "Oorah!" I am offended by your implying otherwise, someone please moderate this comment.
Does anyone know if Roxana is hot?
82, you suck. This is creative writing. You would probably shit all over Joan Didion, I bet. Asshole.
I can't remember when anyone else's posts to ATL have received so many positive comments about being well-written. Even if it's not perfect (and I too had a couple of urges to edit in places), it is high quality and rings true. I agree with the person who said that Roxana should finish, bundle and sell.
Also, 68, have you ever read a personal narrative, fiction or non, that wasn't self-centered? That is the point of this genre of writing. And if you're laid off from a job, I'm sorry, but the next several days are basically about your own animal fear, regardless of how much money you were making up until then or what kind of an opportunity the job you just lost was. It is inherently a time of self-centeredness even for the most community-minded person. And if you don't like hearing about the fears and insecurities of big firm associates who are on the chopping block, you should probably just not read ATL, because that is what this site is about for the foreseeable future.
Thanks for the post. Well written.
Roxana: This is good stuff.
I second 86. I hate the fact that nothing is ever good enough for many of you commenters. I'm guessing most of the critics here are still in law school or at least not in big law (oh, someone who is, please please flag my comment as "FAIL" or, better yet, "EPIC FAIL"!). But seriously, this is about as good as it gets on ATL, where we have tons of input from the HYS crowd (myself included).
Instead of the criticism, write something better and submit it. Go ahead, write something that uses words more "efficiently". See if you can do better in the comment section.
For those who are complaining that it is too "self-centered", you have either not been through a similar event or you are a callous jerk.
Seriously, in good times, you can roll with it and head over to the shop down the street (though it good times, Roxana doesn't get the axe unless she makes a major mistake), but now getting fired is like career death. Sure, maybe it can get resurrected in another form later on. But for the time being, what would you do? Can anyone who is actually in big firm now not say that it is a freaking scary prospect?
I was laid off and have really enjoyed the past couple posts. This one, however, was a little boring and a bit too long. The emotions were accurate though.
85, Joan who?
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incredibly descriptive writing - enjoyable and precise, thanks!
incredibly descriptive writing - enjoyable and precise, thanks!
Love the irony - people will comment that it is too long, verbose and inefficient...and then post their comment twice.
I too thought "'ouchebag' the minute I read "portends techtonic change," but overall I liked the post and think the descriptions of emotions outweigh the doucheyness of word choices.
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Love these comments. Anyone who doubts that people create their own obstacles to finding a better life should read the lengths to which these poor rationalizers go to s-can what is really fine writing. My favorite is the criticism that an autobiographical piece is "too self-centered." That's rich.
so much better than MysTTTal!!!!!!!!!!!
I love Roxana's posts. They are wonderfully written, and I disagree with everyone who says they're too long. Please don't cut a word in whatever she writes. I look forward to her posts, and I would definitely buy a book she wrote. I think she captures the emotions amazingly well.
Very well written.
Serious question:
What do you do all day when only billing 50 or 75 hrs/month? Cruise around scrounging up work? Screw around on the internet all day? Do you still work full days? Hang out with each other and kick it?
Nice post. I recently got laid-off and this is pretty much how it went down. Too bad I read it too late for the cracked egg bit.
Thanks Roxana.
100: What to do all day????
Look for another job.
If you are billing 50-75 hours per month you are very likely to be laid off soon. Start looking for a job now. At least you still have one. Lower your sights to smaller firms and less pay, look for government work, be creative with your job search.
If you have not been laid off yet and you have been billing 50-75 hours per month for the last 3-4 months then your firm has basically been giving you a paycheck for this time, you have not been earning it.
I know, the hours are not available, the stupid partners don't have enough work to go around, the economy sucks, blah, blah blah..... This is reality, not enough hours (at least 125-150 per month) then no job.
Your lay off meeting is on the calendar of the firing partners desk, you just don't know what day has been circled with your name on it.
By the way, now would be a good time to cut expenses to the bar bones. Live like you probably lived in law school, ramen noodles, mac and cheese and no going out anymore. Stop spending and save every dollar you can. You will need them this summer.
Good luck.
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