Boies Schiller Spins Off NJ Office: Say Hello To Stone & Magnanini
We’ve been hearing talk of interesting developments at Boies, Schiller & Flexner, the litigation powerhouse founded by the legendary David Boies, which seems to be doing well despite the downturn (see their bonuses). If you have info to share, please feel free to email us.
Here is some news that we can confirm. The BSF office in New Jersey — located in the upscale community of Short Hills, home to the fabulous, high-end shopping mall — is breaking off from the mother ship. Partners David Stone and Robert Magnanini are hanging up their own shingle, at Stone & Magnanini. (The official press release is available here.)
As one might expect of Boies Schiller partners, Stone and Magnanini are highly experienced and impressively credentialed. David Stone (above right) — a graduate of Harvard Law School, where he worked with such heavyweights as Alan Dershowitz and Laurence Tribe — has developed a robust practice in complex civil and criminal litigation. He has been particularly successful in handling False Claims Act cases, where he has scored some major victories (including a $163 million settlement in the Medco case).
Bob Magnanini (at right), a graduate of Columbia Law School, has similarly extensive experience in complex civil and criminal cases, especially False Claims Act matters. He’s also a Lieutenant Colonel in the New York Army National Guard, serving as the senior division staff officer from the 42nd Infantry Division at the World Trade Center for the two weeks following the 9/11 attacks
They’ll be joined by Eric Jaso, as counsel. Jaso, a graduate of the University of Chicago Law School, is a former Justice Department official and federal prosecutor, who also worked at Latham & Watkins and Cravath. (Disclosure: Jaso is a friend and former colleague of your above-signed scribe, from the U.S. Attorney’s Office in New Jersey.)
We chatted on the phone with David Stone — no relation to Eli — about the new firm. Read more, after the jump.
Update (4/7/09): As of now, the firm is hiring. Details here.
ATL: You’ve had a long and successful career. Can you tell us, in brief, how you got here?
DSS: I went to Harvard Law School, where I worked with Alan Dershowitz, on matters including the Von Bulow case, and with Larry Tribe, on his Con Law treatise. I also worked on Woburn v. W.R. Grace, the case featured in A Civil Action.
Skipping ahead, I was one of the founding partners of Stern & Greenberg (now Stern & Kilcullen), along with Herbert Stern, the former federal judge and U.S. Attorney for New Jersey. We were very close colleagues for a number of years.
I then went off and started my own firm. This is how I came to work with David [Boies]. When I was general counsel to YankeeNets, David and I worked as co-trial counsel in a successful suit to recover the New York Yankees’ television rights from Madison Square Garden Network.
Eventually David asked me to join his firm, and we had various discussions. When he decided he wanted to have a New Jersey office, I agreed to join him. Boies Schiller gave me a really high-level platform for my practice, as well as the autonomy to recruit my own people. The idea was to work on Boies Schiller matters in New Jersey and also to grow the False Claims Act practice, which Boies was very supportive of.
ATL: Can you tell us a bit more about that practice?
DSS: Over the years, I’ve been handling False Claims Act cases, in which I’ve developed a specialization. I’ve always represented the relators [i.e., the whistleblower plaintiffs] in these cases, not the defendants.
I worked on a very large False Claims Act case in Minnesota, involving 65 anesthesiologists, five hospitals, and several anesthesiology groups. That case went on for eight years and made it all the way up to the Supreme Court. I myself took over 80 depositions in that case and spent a good part of my life in Minnesota. Eventually I successfully resolved that case, which led to more such cases.
Our firm is now in the top three or so firms known for doing this type of work. In the cases we’ve been involved in, over a billion dollars has been recovered.
My practice has drifted towards the pharmaceutical realm. I had always had a focus on health care, but I’ve gravitated as most False Claims Act practitioners have towards focusing on large pharmaceutical companies. These cases often have the largest recoveries and the greatest government interest. But I work on many different types of False Claims Act cases, including defense contractor cases and fraud in Iraq, as well as IRS whistleblower cases.
ATL: What types of matters have you worked on outside the False Claims Act realm?
DSS: I’ve worked on a number of groundbreaking cases at BSF, including the Hank Greenberg litigation, as well as representing a former UN official investigated in Oil for Food scandal. I’ve had a pretty varied complex litigation practice, working in areas like IP, unfair competition, and FTC proceedings.
ATL: It sounds like everything is going great. What’s behind your decision to leave Boies Schiller and start Stone & Magnanini?
DSS: Our False Claims Act practices has become so big, and so public, that it has started to give rise to potential conflicts with Boies Schiller, because of BSF’s institutional clients. Boies Schiller has grown to some 250 lawyers and has picked up some major corporate clients. I was conflicted out of some [False Claims Act] cases, and I felt that this might happen more down the road.
So I spoke to the managing partners, and we decided it would be a win-win situation to spin off the New Jersey office. I could grow the False Claims Act practice without concern about possible conflicts. But we can continue to work with BS as co-counsel or local counsel in certain cases that don’t present conflicts.
It’s also a great opportunity for us to be more entrepreneurial. We can have a practice on a much greater scale, in terms of the cases we’re handling and the money at stake. You can recover hundreds of millions of dollars, and attorneys in these cases can make very good fees, not limited by the hourly fee.
ATL: What are your thoughts about launching in the current economic climate?
DSS: This is actually a perfect approach for the current environment. You can be innovative with [fee] arrangements, not just going by the billable hour. I never liked the hourly standard. It rewards people for building up hours without accomplishing anything.
We would get punished for how well we do. We’d win a summary judgment motion and end up spending 200 hours on a case rather than 2000 hours. The more efficient we were, the less money we made. So right now there’s a great opportunity for us to go out to clients and say that we can handle this litigation for X amount, or for a fixed amount with a success fee, or with a contingent fee.
What’s great [about representing relators in False Claims Act cases] is that you’re basically betting on yourself — and nine times out of 10, we think we’re going to win. And clients are happy because they’re paying you out of money that is actually coming in to them.
That’s why I see this as a great opportunity. Some say this isn’t a great marketplace for legal services, with lawyers being laid off. But I think that, first, there are a lot of good lawyers available, and second, clients are looking for the most efficient way to achieve their goals. Good lawyers who are practical will do well.
ATL: So here’s a question that many laid-off lawyers in the tri-state area will want to know: Are you hiring?
DSS: We might be hiring later, depending on how things go. We’re starting off being prudent. Right now the new firm will consist of me and Bob, as partners; Eric Jaso (at right), as counsel; and three associates. We’ll start with six lawyers and build from there.
I did the Minnesota case with basically just four attorneys; the other side had about 26 attorneys. If you have experience and do this litigation in an efficient way, you don’t need a lot of lawyers. But that doesn’t mean that at some point we might not add on lawyers later.
Update (4/7/09): As of now, the firm is hiring to fill one position. Details here.
ATL: You sound very busy. Does all this leave you with any time outside the office?
DSS: I actually have many outside interests. I produced on off-Broadway musical based on Frankenstein by Mary Shelley. I have a deep interest in the arts; I play the jazz piano, and I’m on the NJPAC [New Jersey Performing Arts Center] board.
I’m also playing soccer in July for the U.S. in the Maccabiah Games, in the men’s 45-and-over category. The Maccabiah Games are like the Jewish Olympics, held in Israel every four years. They’re the third-largest sporting event in the world after the Olympics.
I also co-founded an organization called the Federal Enforcement Homeland Security Foundation. It’s a private charitable foundation that acts as a safety net for federal and state law enforcement officials and their families, to assist them when agents are injured or killed in the line of duty. You can check out our website at www.fehsf.org.
ATL: It sounds like a great organization. Best of luck with your new firm!
Stone & Magnanini LLP: New Firm Will Expand Successful and Profitable Qui Tam Practice [press release]




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Abigail: “I can’t believe I got laid off this week because of the slow economy.”
Britanny: “You really think it was just because of the economy? Are you fucking kidding me? The firm was waiting to can your sorry ass for years, and they finally did it now because they don’t have as much document review monkey work to give out anymore. Gee, I hope that unemployment check is enough to cover your Captain Morgan habit, sis. Just please try to hold off on the booze till we get home from the office. I got frickin work to do! Oh, and have fun watching The Price is Right at noon today, you laid-off loser.”
Abigail: “It’s on at 11.”
[*Abigail and Brittany are conjoined twins. No offense to them is intended as to the comments made by this FICTIONAL character, created only for fun on ATL. Much respect and best wishes to the real Abigail and Brittany, who are strong, cool people!]
bring back elie - this lat guy sucks (dude - no one thinks AUSA is prestigious other than those who work there)
How much did "Stones and Mangini" pay you to publicly blow them like this? Who cares.
I wish I'd gone to Boies. They did not lay off half of their first years.
2: I'm just a 3L so I obviously don't work there, but I think most people think AUSA is prestigious
Unfortunately, Stone & Magnanini has never promoted a female to partner in its entire history, which obviously means it's a shameful and sexist firm. Corporate clients must do something about it and impose affirmative action on the firm. That is change we can believe in.
Lat, hope you got some of that sweet whistelblower cash for doing this.
STTTone & Magnanini
LOL @ 8 - no need to give the firm a chance, they are TTT!
The next Quinn?
Lat loves himself some sweet Mangini.
Isn't this the firm that hired Elizabeth Wurtzell (of Prozac Nation fame)? She failed the NY bar this year, and I don't think they even fired her.
is anyone else having formatting issues with ATL? The text is huge today.
puff piece
hmmmm... I'm not the only whore on this page!
1) Agree, puff piece.
2) Please kill the Conjoined Twins schtick.
Lat, I used to think your prestige-whoring was tolerable because it sometimes seemed ironic. But it's clear you're the real deal. A full-on credential slut.
Not the best position for a wannabe journalist to be in. You seem to make a practice of comforting the comfortable, to take a twist on Mencken.
If you ever want to be taken half seriously, you have to get over it, and stop using words like "legendary" to describe good lawyers. David Boies famous? Yes. Accomplished? OK. But "legendary"? Come on, dude.
We'd all love to see a post where you don't note that the subject is "impressively credentialed," or has a "gold-plated resume."
17: David Boies represented Al Gore in Bush v. Gore at the supreme court. Representing a presidential candidate in a battle to have votes counted at the Supreme court makes you legendary.
18: Legendary would be winning before the Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore and saving the country from 4 more years.
What does this mean for the rest of the associates in the BSFLLP NJ office? Axed?
Some are going with the new firm; some are going to BSF in NY.