Cardozo Responds To Finals Scheduling Conflict
Yesterday, we reported that 2Ls at Cardozo were going to have to miss a week of their firm summers because of the school’s late final exams.
Today, the school has responded, offering students the flexibility to reschedule their finals if their firms have a mandatory summer start date. Cardozo Dean David Rudenstine emailed the students today:
In addition, and more to the point, Dean Arthur Fama, Dean Judith Mender, and Vice Dean Michael Herz, who have been in consultation since becoming aware of the potential for conflict, recommend, given the constraints, that the law school this year permit a student with a summer legal position with a mandatory start date that conflicts with an examination late in the schedule to apply to reschedule the examination. The details of this policy will be set forth in the exam memorandum that will be posted on Angel in due course.
We think this is excellent news. In this market schools and students need to be as flexible as possible, and it seems like Cardozo’s administration responded quickly to a novel problem.
Read the dean’s full letter after the jump.
CARDOZO — MEMO — SUMMER START DATES
Recently some 2L students have reported that the Cardozo 2009 spring examination schedule overlaps with a summer start-date for some law firm employment, and have inquired as to what might be done in response.
The Cardozo spring semester often runs later in May in comparison to some law schools because of our January Intensive Trial Advocacy Program (ITAP) for which about 100 students annually register. The examination schedule for this semester, which has been public for about a year, ends on May 22, a few days later than usual because of the calendar cycle.
An overlap between the Cardozo examination schedule and the earliest start date for some summer law programs has not previously been problematic, because a summer program often has more than one possible start date. In fact, this is the first time that I recall this issue coming to my attention.
In addition, and more to the point, Dean Arthur Fama, Dean Judith Mender, and Vice Dean Michael Herz, who have been in consultation since becoming aware of the potential for conflict, recommend, given the constraints, that the law school this year permit a student with a summer legal position with a mandatory start date that conflicts with an examination late in the schedule to apply to reschedule the examination. The details of this policy will be set forth in the exam memorandum that will be posted on Angel in due course.
However, I wanted to be certain that you had this information now so as to assuage concerns and to facilitate the planning of your transition from examinations to summer employment.
Sincerely,
Dean David Rudenstine
Earlier: How Did Cardozo Let This Happen?




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cardozo to jobs for 2Ls!
good for them
"Final's" ?
Who is this Mr. or Ms. Final?
Cardozn't
If this doesn't finally vault Cardozo into the USNWR Top 50, nothing will.
CarTTToza
This will make a huge difference to the two or three Cardozo 2Ls able to land a biglaw gig.
"Recently some 2L students have reported..."
"The examination schedule for this semester, which has been public for about a year..."
ROFL
I banged a Cardozo chick in the ass during a moot court competition. If she had put in half as much effort into her oral argument as she had into our little tryst, she might have won.
Let me get this right: ATL is now wasting time reporting on a school ranked....god, it's so far down the rankings I don't even know where its ranked (I never look below 50 on principal). Seriously, do we really think any of these morons are getting jobs anytime soon. What is the point of this?
Let me get this right: ATL is now wasting time reporting on a school ranked....god, it's so far down the rankings I don't even know where its ranked (I never look below 50 on principal). Seriously, do we really think any of these morons are getting jobs anytime soon. What is the point of this?
@7 Try 10 or 20
12: lol are you bragging?
Thanks, 12, that makes this a much bigger deal. The legal world will be watching with bated breath to discover the fate of these 10-20 nobodies.
Dean Fama is the Joan King of Cardozo Law School.
@12 try 40. The top 10% guaranteed, plus a few more scattered here and there.
Anyway, Elie, are you stupid or just willfully ignorant? "Novel problem"? It's not a novel fucking problem in any sense of the word "novel". It's not new for Cardozo, since this is the schedule every single year. It's also not unique to Cardozo, since many schools end "late". How is this "novel"? Why is this news?
@ 14: ur a tool.
@ 9: r u the same tool who made a quip about banging a cardozo chick who is now at cadwalader? do u seriously have nothing better to do with ur time than try to overcompensate for your dwindling masculinity on ATL?
@ 9 & 14: ur both just jealous b/c neither of u likely has a job.
@ 14: ur a tool.
@ 9: r u the same tool who made a quip about banging a cardozo chick who is now at cadwalader? do u seriously have nothing better to do with ur time than try to overcompensate for your dwindling masculinity on ATL?
@ 9 & 14: ur both just jealous b/c neither of u likely has a job.
@ 14: ur a tool.
@ 9: r u the same tool who made a quip about banging a cardozo chick who is now at cadwalader? do u seriously have nothing better to do with ur time than try to overcompensate for your dwindling masculinity on ATL?
@ 9 & 14: ur both just jealous b/c neither of u likely has a job.
Top 10% at Cardozo got you Cadwalader at the peak of the debt bubble. Top 10 (people, not percent) might get you Cahill in this economy.
Give me back that fillet-o fish!
Give me back that fish...
Give me back that fillet-o fish!
Give me back that fish...
Watch this video. Do you guys think Cardozo's career services office can help me get a job in entertainment law or at the United Nations even though I went to Hofstra?
http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/MemberContentDisplay.aspx?ccmd=ContentDisplay&ucmd=UserDisplay&userid=10336&contentid=884
So all of the horny CWT NY 05 females are Cardozos?
Cardozo's biglaw representation is about on par with Brooklyn Law School's, and Cardozo has been around for one third as long. Give it another 70 years and it'll surpass many others.
I'd also like to incorporate #21 by reference, thanks.
Some of these comments are incredibly rude. Cardozo produces some damn fine contract attorneys. Damn fine!
- Biglaw Hiring Partner
I'll take the bait....FAR more than the top 10% at Cardozo get jobs in biglaw. Myself included.
I was accepted at HLS and Cardozo but chose Cardozo after I visited HLS. When I was at the HLS library I saw this really fat dude eating donuts in the stacks and chortling about how he burned out the spell checker at his summer job at Debevoise. When I saw the smug look on his face, and the face of every other law student in that library, I realized that top 10 is for assholes.
Big mistake by Dean Carbozo. Had he allowed the scheduling conflict to remain, Carbozo students could have used the conflict to save face when explaining to their friends the reason for their unemployment. We all know that no Carbozo student isn't getting a job in this economy. Lol.
Cardozo Law School reminds me of that 1968 campaign commercial in which Humphrey ridiculed Spiro Agnew by just putting Agnew's name on the screen coupled with the audio of someone laughing.
Edit: We all know that no Carbozo student *is* getting a job in this economy.
Are you a Cardozo law student? Got a problem?
Contact Elie Mystal at Abovethelaw.com. He will publicize your grievance. Cardozo administrators are busily combing the internet to discover such grievances. When they do, they will consult with one another for approximately 24 hours and then change the rules to accommodate you.
Columbia Remains!
@30
Captain WorkHard: I bet you're the sort of moron who tries to recall an email that you accidentally sent to the entire firm, thereby calling attention to it when nobody would have cared had you just let it go.
So Jewish. Abunch of beanie wearing tools in Jew York complaining that they might miss out on alittle money. Your reign of terror ended with the financial collapse.
-The Prestigious Southerner
Dean Fama was a terrific litigator at Skadden for a number of years. Maybe he can create an "exam deferral" program for Cardozo students.
This will have a huge impact on the 6 Dozo 2Ls that have Biglaw jobs!
Listen, I'm going to say this one more time: If you didn't go to Rutgers-Camden, I will take a steaming dook all over you. Literally.
34 - not sure where the line is, but you definitely crossed it.
DR; dozed off in the car...
Rutgers-Camden here again. Does anyone have some immodium? My tummy is a 'rumblin . . .
Individuals like myself with god given talent do not worry about things like start dates, summer associate positions, or finals. It's only a matter of time before I get called up to the majors. Same can't be said those Jews at Cardozo.
Individuals like myself with god given talent do not worry about things like start dates, summer associate positions, or finals. It's only a matter of time before I get called up to the majors. Same can't be said for those Jews at Cardozo.
Well, this reporter was... possibly a little hasty earlier and would like to... reaffirm his allegiance to this country and its human president. May not be perfect, but it's still the best government we have. For now.
No
#34 - way past the line. the only thing that makes your hatred tolerable is the clear jealousy in your voice. Shame on ATL for allowing hatred comments to be posted here. Now, I think ill sit back in my BigLaw office and chuckle while I picture you in the unemployment line. Or wait... should i stoop to your level and make a hateful Southerner comment??
#34 - way past the line. the only thing that makes your hatred tolerable is the clear jealousy in your voice. Shame on ATL for allowing hatred comments to be posted here. Now, I think ill sit back in my BigLaw office and chuckle while I picture you in the unemployment line. Or wait... should i stoop to your level and make a hateful Southerner comment??
Skadden
Paul Weiss
Sullivan Cromwell
Weil Gotshal
Fried Frank
Ropes & Gray
Boise Schiller
Hogan & Hartson
Latham & Watkins
Bingham McCutchen
Schulte
Debevoise
Davis Polk
Kasowitz
all have summer associates coming from Cardozo.
Next up: MASSIVE CARDOZO CHEATING SCANDAL, as those who take an exam early collude with those taking it on the normal schedule.
A Cardozo could not get 3500 sq ft and a wife.
Dallas Prestige
46 - Jews firms, Jew school. I rest my case.
27 - Well played.
#48 - are you braindead?? that would hurt themselves in the curve! but nice try
#48 - are you braindead?? that would hurt themselves in the curve! but nice try
KennyPowers - you are just as jealous and ignorant as 34. Keep sitting and waiting one day your time will come... your "talent" will be discovered..... ha! who am i kidding?!? have fun on your wii... or wtvr you do to keep busy till they discover you.
Checking in from Rutgers-Camden. You do NOT want to use that stall, OK? Bad times in there.
Wah - if you have a start day before finals end, go to your job, study in the evening and take a few hours off for the actual final. Multi-tasking is part of being an adult.
47 I like how you tack Kasowitz on the end there like someone gives a fuck about that firm.
57 - agreed. Though some firm has to take up the rear, Kasowitz is not a bad choice for that spot!
Fuck me, look at all these damn joooz -
Michael Chertoff (HS)
Joshua Bolten (OMB,WHCOS)
Michael Mukasey (AG)
Rahm Emanuel (WHCOS)
Peter Orszag (OMB)
Carl Levin (senators)
Arlen Specter
Frank Lautenberg
Herb Kohl
Joseph Lieberman
Dianne Feinstein
Barbara Boxer
Russ Feingold
Charles Schumer
Ben Cardin
Bernie Sanders
Michael Bennet
30 something congressmen
2 Supreme Court justices
Plus me - with my V5 SA-ship
And I hear they like taking it up the ass at moot court competitions. What's not to like?
Fuck all the haters ... in the ass.
47 - "Boise Schiller"
Why the fuck do we care about some Idaho firm?!
Why is it that the mere mention of Cardozo invokes such extreme interest in anal sex?
Can you say "run-on sentence?"
"In addition, and more to the point, Dean Arthur Fama, Dean Judith Mender, and Vice Dean Michael Herz, who have been in consultation since becoming aware of the potential for conflict, recommend, given the constraints, that the law school this year permit a student with a summer legal position with a mandatory start date that conflicts with an examination late in the schedule to apply to reschedule the examination. "
hey 61 - its simple. jewish tradition prefers that the bride be a virgin on her wedding day. taking it up the ass preserves the maidenhead for the special day. thats why black goyim prefer the cardozo chicks so much
hey 61 - its simple. jewish tradition prefers that the bride be a virgin on her wedding day. taking it up the ass preserves the maidenhead for the special day. thats why black goyim prefer the cardozo chicks so much
@62 -- that's not run-on. It's long-winded, for sure, but not ungrammatical. Diagram it.
59, you forgot Bernard Madoff
59 - hey, we have our criminal masterminds too - its the downside of genius - instead of shooting up a redneck highschools, they steal money from the some of smartest people in the world instead. our penance - to eternally take it up the ass at never ending moot court competitions.
oops - i mean the brown dick at 66 - hey, we have our criminal masterminds too - its the downside of genius - instead of shooting up a redneck highschools, they steal money from the some of smartest people in the world instead. our penance - to eternally take it up the ass at never ending moot court competitions.
I love the smell of moot court and anal sex in the morning.
Cardozo still sucks
Every time my school gets mentioned, the skinheads come out of the closet. Hey you internet bigots, come out into the daystar for a free lesson in manners from my fists.
I am neither a nazi nor a skinhead. Just somebody who loves anal intercourse and the adrenalin of moot court competition.
72, you're off the hook.
yea boi - w/regards to 71 ! u other "southerner" d-bags are just pissed, jealous, and sexually frustrated.
yea boi - w/regards to 71 ! u other "southerner" d-bags are just pissed, jealous, and sexually frustrated.
yea boi - w/regards to 71 ! u other "southerner" d-bags are just pissed, jealous, and sexually frustrated.
yea boi - w/regards to 71 ! u other "southerner" d-bags are just pissed, jealous, and sexually frustrated.
72 - I agree. I just love it - the night before the big day third day final showdown, as a 3L coach from a respected Southern school (the uber-prestigious Harvard of the South, if you must know) I get to lay back in the hotel room and allow the agressive beanie Cardozo 2L's to perform their... oral arguments ... on me. If I find their ministrations to be ... persuasive ... I line them up and start swinging my ... gavel ... to and fro until I find the more obscure of their two ... passages. Good times - if my ... gavel ... didn't smell like beanie bung in the morning.
Huzzah for Cardozo moot court anal sex! HUZZAH!
Ah, I remember the days when I thought moot court mattered at fucking all in the real world...
Cardozo did the right thing. The lame posters here suck ass. 'nuff said.
i quit moot court man after I fell off the witness stand, plus my life isn't some kind of joke.
74-77 whats with you repeating yourself, it's maniacal
kind of refreshing when a school actually responds to a problem it's students have
10/11: you talk about Cardozo's low ranking, while you can't understand the difference between "principal" and "principle".
This is just more proof that the "prestigious" T14 types on this site aren't worth even half the money they are being paid.