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Department of Dubious Defenses: Calling women “hormonal messes” is just a cultural thing

santosh potdar.jpgA fun part of traveling is observing “cultural differences.” It’s okay to pick your nose in public in some parts of Kenya, to comment on someone’s significant weight gain in the Philippines, and to burp mid-meal in India. The practices may not be your cup of tea, but that’s the fun of exploring other cultures. But what about a culture of gender discrimination in the workplace?

A group of female hospital administrative staff have filed a lawsuit in Ohio against Summa Health Systems and Dr. Santosh Potdar alleging gender discrimination. Among their allegations against the doctor, from the complaint:

  • Potdar referred to them as a “Bunch of B*tches,” “Hormonal Messes,” and a “F*cking Lesbian.”
  • Potdar “[made] gender-based, derogatory and offensive statements and display[ed] gender animus by stating, among other things, that ‘women should not work outside the home’ and by telling one Plaintiff that ‘he feels sorry for her husband that he has to deal with you’ and ‘he feels sorry for her father that he had only daughters.”
  • Potdar “subject[ed] Plaintiffs to verbal attacks, insults, degradation and humiliation, including, among other things, calling them a ‘Bunch of Monkeys.’”

    So we assume Potdar would prefer to have the hospital populated with Gaylord Fockers.

    Our favorite part of this lawsuit is the defense put forth by the hospital, according to the plaintiffs. From the complaint:

    Summa’s Human Resources Department told Plaintiffs that they were “working on it” and, at one point, they attributed Dr. Potdar’s treatment of women to “cultural” differences.

    We’re unsure where Potdar is from — according to the press release announcing his arrival, he was previously head of a medical center in Pennsylvania — but apparently he’s been listening to too much Jay-Z. Summa has not yet filed an answer, but we do hope the hospital’s lawyers come up with a better defense than “cultural differences.”

    Complaint from Summit County Clerk of Courts
    Case Details [Summit County Clerk of Courts via Courthouse News Service]

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    1 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:03 AM

    First, You Bunch of Bitches!

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    2 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:07 AM

    what a retard.

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    3 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:08 AM

    The plaintiffs should enter into a settlement: Potdar can call them "hormonal messes" if they can call him "curry-smelling monkey man".

    That is all.

    4 Posted by Ron Burgundy | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:10 AM

    They are smelly pirate hookers, and I will punch them square in the ovary.

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    5 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:12 AM

    She used the world's largest crowbar for that Meet the Parents reference.

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    6 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:13 AM

    I've been to Pennsylvania, and he's not lying.

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    7 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:13 AM

    Basically, if a white person (especially a white b*tch like hill) says off colored and mildly offensive things, it's perfectly OK. But when an Indian does it he must hang.

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    8 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:17 AM

    Yo-yo-yo-yo -- word bitches.

    - Flav

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    9 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:19 AM

    This guy is on point.

    10 Posted by KennyPowers | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:23 AM

    We don't have to take our clothes off to have a good time.

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    11 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:23 AM

    Come on guys, it's just a cultural difference. It's all relative. For example, if this guy killed his daugther for marrying outside the faith or going out and getting herself raped, well, it's just how they do it over there. Who are we to say we are better, what with our corporate greed and inequitable wealth distribution?

    12 Posted by Ron Burgundy | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:23 AM

    They're just women with small brains. With brains a third the size of us. It's science.

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    13 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:24 AM

    It is not Ok to burp (mid meal or at any other point of time) in India...seriously Kash.

    I mean just beacsue the name is Kashmir it does not automatically make you the last word on inter cultural niceties, eh? :-)

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    14 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:27 AM

    Jay-z? I can only imagine what this guy would call him. But this isn't the Jigga-man's problem. If you don't like his lyrics, you can press fast-forward.

    Be thankful he wasn't listening to Chris Brown!

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    15 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:28 AM

    If this guy loses his job he should be able to make a few bucks renting out his forehead as a mirror.

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    16 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:28 AM

    Come on guys, it's just a cultural difference. It's all relative. For example, if this guy killed his daugther for marrying outside the faith or going out and getting herself raped, well, it's just how they do it over there. Who are we to say we are better, what with our corporate greed and inequitable wealth distribution?

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    17 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:29 AM

    I heard somewhere their periods attract bears. They can smell the menstruation!

    18 Posted by KennyPowers | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:33 AM

    You know I usually hate anyone who wears diaper on their head. But, this camel jockey really hit the nail on the head here. Women are inferior plain and simple. In most cases, they are nothing but a pair of tits and legs.

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    19 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:34 AM

    Truth is the best defense here. Just write a brief that says these women were bitches, hos, and dykes on an objective level.

    The truth will set you free!

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    20 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:38 AM

    A pretty interesting post. Nice.

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    21 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:39 AM

    When I go to other countries, much less LIVE and WORK in other countries, I make a huge attempt to learn their customs and culture. You don't show up in Bahrain and walk around in a bikini. And you don't come to America to work in a high professional position and degrade women. Additionally, I assume this guy didn't just step off the boat so the excuse is not flying with me.

    Lastly, being a douchebag because you grew up among douchebags is never an excuse.

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    22 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:40 AM

    Hormonal messes is just German for "a whale's vagina."

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    23 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:51 AM

    It's called sex panther. It's made with bits of real panther, so you know its good. 50% of the time, it works every time.

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    24 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:52 AM

    13 - it was acceptable where I lived in India, so I guess you're not the final word, either.

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    25 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:55 AM

    Wait, why is it illegal to degrade women? There's really a cause of action for harassment? Ew. I hate this country.

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    26 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:56 AM

    What a douchestache. Judging solely from his photo, my bet would be that he tried to flirt with some of them, and when shot down because of his lack of any attractive human qualities, he turned to calling him degrading names.

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    27 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:02 PM

    This will be a real showdown of political correctness - foreign cultures vs. gender discrimination. Liberals everywhere will be tripping over each other to demagogue this one!

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    28 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:09 PM

    Maybe he needs to head on home where his "cultural" perceptions are not "cultural".

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    29 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:09 PM

    The man is a doctor. He must know what he is talking about.

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    30 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:12 PM

    27, Foreign cultures > misogyny. When that Muslim dude upstate decapitated his wife for doing something too Western, NOW was conspicuously silent.

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    31 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:22 PM

    Yawn...

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    32 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:23 PM

    Go Akron!

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    33 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:24 PM

    Damn 29, that is exactly what I was going to say. For all we know this guy has done extensive research into the effect of hormones on the demeanor of female administrative assistants and he is "dead on balls" accurate as to their mental state for purely medical reasons. Who are they to question a doctor on that issue?

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    34 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:28 PM

    Of course there's a cultural difference. We're talking about doctors here. They've been chauvinists since Hippocrates. Haven't any of you people seen MASH, the movie of course?

    Trapper John: "And then give me at least ONE nurse who knows how to work in close without getting her tits in my way."

    Col. Blake: "Hot Lips, you incredible nincompoop."

    Trapper John: "Well, what's the matter with her today?"
    Hawkeye: "I don't know, I think it's one of those ladies' things."
    Trapper John: "It's not like her to act like this. She's a bitch, look at my new flannel coat. She's going to have a nervous breakdown."

    Maybe the next economic depression will curb the tide of our culture's emasculation.

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    35 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:28 PM

    11, You're hilarious.

    26, You actually think this guy is guilty based on nothing more than allegations and *how he looks in the photo*? Your last name isn't Nifong by any chance, is it?

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    36 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:28 PM

    Of course there's a cultural difference. We're talking about doctors here. They've been chauvinists since Hippocrates. Haven't any of you people seen MASH, the movie of course?

    Trapper John: "And then give me at least ONE nurse who knows how to work in close without getting her tits in my way."

    Col. Blake: "Hot Lips, you incredible nincompoop."

    Trapper John: "Well, what's the matter with her today?"
    Hawkeye: "I don't know, I think it's one of those ladies' things."
    Trapper John: "It's not like her to act like this. She's a bitch, look at my new flannel coat. She's going to have a nervous breakdown."

    Maybe the next economic depression will curb the tide of our culture's emasculation.

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    37 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:34 PM

    He should file a complaint against those stupid women for insulting islam. Stone them. Off with their hands. Off with their heads. islam is a religion of peace and justice. jihad away.

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    38 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:41 PM

    LOL. Since when did Indians think it was ok to judge another group of people? They're already at the bottom (or near the bottom) of the racial totem pole.

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    39 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:49 PM

    You guys seems to forget that truth is a defense to slander. Duh.

    40 Posted by VMonkey | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:51 PM

    All of his comments sound like something you would sayin jest to a bunch of people you already have a good rapport with. Gess this guy was wrong about that.

    Indian MD: "I miss the old nurse uniform...you know white dress and a hat. Guess you monkey nurses nowadays are generally too fat to look good in them."

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    41 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:10 PM

    Amateurs: http://www.checkmd.com/sitemap/PA/city/Danville/Santosh-Potdar/6443949/

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    42 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:10 PM

    Why did they file in state court and not federal?

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    43 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:41 PM

    What do you expect from someone who bought his wife at a flea market in New Delhi ?

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    44 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:45 PM

    15 = Comment of the day!

    -Not 15

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    45 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:47 PM

    How are we unsure about where this macaca is from ?


    Santosh Potdar, MD
    Practice Name Summa Physicians Inc.
    Specialty

    Medical School Mahatma Gandi Medical College
    Internship M.Y. Hospital - Indore, India
    Residency Mahatma Gandi Medical College
    Fellowship University of Pittsburgh Medical Center

    Ship the piece of shit back to the cesspool he crawled out of.

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    46 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:51 PM

    30, you're a complete idiot. they weren't silent: http://www.now.org/news/note/022009.html?printable

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    47 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:02 PM

    More stories like this please! I am tired of hearing about layoffs and economic doom and gloom. I much prefer to read about idiots so that I can feel better about myself.

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    48 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:06 PM

    46, Read the links you post:

    "Despite these patterns that are typical of spouse abuse and murder (only the manner of killing was atypical), most of the conservative commentary has focused not on male violence toward women (surprise, surprise), nor on the importance of protecting women who have separated from a violent relationship (another surprise) but has focused instead on attacking the Muslim community."

    NOW said *something,* but they do not have the balls (pardon the pun) to call out Muslim culture for its subjugation of women. To them it was just another instance of domestic violence, which is an awfully euphemistic expression for a guy cutting off his wife's head.

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    49 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:14 PM

    47 -- go work for Blank Rome's Princeton office. You'll get your fill of stories like these.

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    50 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:21 PM

    I think that we should all defer to him. He has the medical expertise to diagnose the overall hormone levels and bitchitude of females.

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    51 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:23 PM

    HR's response was totally lame. I hope to God it was a woman who said that.

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    52 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:34 PM

    Give these ladies a couple of days and they will drop the complaint. They are probably just on their periods. Watch out for bears.

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    53 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:34 PM

    Yes, 35, I actually think that, just like 19, 29, 33, and 39 all have made objective determinations that the women were actually hormonal messes and fucking lesbians. Have you heard of the internet? Sarcasm? Get a clue.

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    54 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:53 PM

    13 - it actually is okay (expected, even) in Kerala.

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    55 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:58 PM

    54 is right. It is a custom that is falling out of favor in India as it modernizes (westernizes?). You probably won't see people doing it in Mumbai.

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    56 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:00 PM

    54 is right. It is a custom that is falling out of favor in India as it modernizes (westernizes?). You probably won't see people doing it in Mumbai.

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    57 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:03 PM

    Kenny Powers, that was messed up how you left the teacher on the side of the road, albeit since she had a dang roller bag for her trip, she inherently didn't plan to go for that long. Thus, why not cut to the chase!

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    58 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:34 PM

    48 -- So all muslims kill their wives when they have a problem with them? And non-muslims never do? This was just a function of Islam?

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    59 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:37 PM

    27 -- interesting, only liberals should be concerned if someone uses this kind of language? Conservative Christians are fine with calling others "Bunch of B*tches," "Hormonal Messes," and a "F*cking Lesbian?"

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    60 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:44 PM

    Good point, 59. Conservative Christians (and everyone knows the only REAL conservatives are all Christians!) would call women "wives" and "mothers," and occasionally, in a hushed whisper, "*LESBIANS*."

    To be clear, they would also never call them "doctors," "lawyers," CEOs," "bankers," or "ministers," because, silly, women can't be any of those things!

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    61 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:47 PM

    where does the assumption come from that this is a muslim? the name santosh potdar certainly does not suggest it--quite the contrary.

    how can this crew of apparently educated elites be so rabidly ignorant? the depths of your frothy, blind hatred never ceases to amaze.

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    62 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:20 PM

    @30:

    You should probably know what you're talking about before you speak.

    http://www.now.org/news/note/022009.html

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    63 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:21 PM

    @30:

    You should probably know what you're talking about before you speak.

    http://www.now.org/news/note/022009.html

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    64 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:31 PM

    48 - I just read your "response" to the NOW column. Way to selectively (mis)interpret two paragraphs out of the whole column. The point Gandy was making was that violence against women is not owned by Muslims, or Christians, or Americans, or Africans, or anyone else. It exists across all cultures, and anyone pointing at one culture and saying "THEY don't respect women, because they're violent toward them" is missing the point that violence against women exists in all of our own backyards. But, you know, that's probably too high-brow a point to try and make and the next meeting of your He-Man Woman-Hating Club.

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    65 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, March 27, 2009 9:45 AM

    Santosh Potdar, M.D. is a transplant surgeon and Director of Transplant Services with Summa Physicians, Surgery.

    Dr. Potdar is board certified in general surgery by the American Board of Surgery and fellowship trained in transplant surgery at Thomas E. Starzl Transplantation Institute at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. He is a member of the American Society of Transplantation Surgeons, American College of Surgeons, American Association for the Study of Liver Disease, International Liver Transplant Society and the International Pancreas and Islet Transplant Association.

    He is accepting new patients.

    YOU BET YOUR BIPPY HE'S ACCEPTING NEW PATIENTS - ALL THE OLD ONES ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THE REALIZE WHAT AN IDIOT HE IS.

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    66 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, March 27, 2009 11:10 AM

    The venom that pours forth in the comment section on this site is absolutely disgusting. You spew your poison behind cloaks of anonymity, and you're getting more and more comfortable leading double lives. I'd love to hear any of you stand up my law school classroom and say half the things you write up here.

    It's only a matter of time before you all self-destruct. Every single one of you will reap what you sow. You will sow the wind and reap the whirlwind in your own lives, the lives of your families, and/or in your professional lives.

    Words are powerful, and filthy words overflow from a filthy heart. I encourage each of you to repent (which simply means "change your mind") and head in a new direction -- both online and offline!

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    67 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, March 27, 2009 12:38 PM

    66- is that you, Santosh?

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    68 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, March 27, 2009 2:08 PM

    "cultural differences"? so tell me summa hr, how would you explain the lack of ignorant, misogynist behavior from the REST of your indian docs? please. kick this sorry motherf*cker to the curb.

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    69 Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, March 27, 2009 2:22 PM

    66, real lawyers practice law, not "teach."

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    70 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, April 9, 2009 5:52 PM

    This guy is a total Richard Cranium - you people take time to stop and think why the transplant center closed? Three guesses, the first two don't count - Answer: because Richard Cranium doesn't know how to treat human beings, no matter what gender they are....so they all left their job....GO FIGURE!

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    71 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, August 4, 2009 4:50 PM

    The man has a GOD COMPLEX, met him several times, he ruined my daughter's life. Glad somebody get's to slap a lawsuit on him, he really does think women are not equal, I Hope the whole transplant community finds out about this low life.

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    72 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, August 4, 2009 4:55 PM

    Salusa Secondus doesn't deserve him.

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    73 Posted by guest | Permalink Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:35 PM

    Potdar should be tossed out of the medical profession, NEVER allow to preform another transplant. NEVER. He transplant my child and damn near killed her. HE< screwed up. But did he pay,, hell no the law proctected him. Indian, what ever he is a surgeon that should not be allow to practice and I bet I am not the only case that he screwed up. He is just one horrible Dr. RUN FROM POTDAR !!! RUN RUN RUN

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    74 Posted by guest | Permalink Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:43 PM

    LOATH the man, and I just wish I had another person to contact me with his total screw ups. He makes me sick sick sick. Should NEVER be allow to practice surgery in this county of our USA. Toss his one framed mind back to India to transplant cows,, only even cows do not deserve his care. DEVIL DOG

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    75 Posted by guest | Permalink Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:51 PM

    STOP protecting imcompentent Doctors. They are not God's. They are HUMAN and make mistakes. Hold them accountable. Mr Bush Protected them, just try to get one transplant surgeon to go against another in a court of law. Is not going to happen, such a close knit community, not one other has the guts to say another transplant surgeon "STEPPED OUT OF THE NORM" ok so what the hell is the NORM. Hope other transplant surgeons see Potadar for what he is. His day will come and those ladies in Akron ROCK<< YOU GO GIRLS !!!

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    76 Posted by guest | Permalink Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:06 PM

    My last and final words to Potdar after he failed my childs transplant because he thinks he's god was "Dr. Potdar what would you do if this was your daughter"? he only looked at me. After all we were just women did not matter. He close the hosp. door and walked and dismissed up. HE< did do wrong, the organ did NOT reject, he connected it WRONG. And as a mother he would not even speak to me would would Dad ??? why, because I am a woman, and did my daughter matter either,, nope only a "woman" So women patients of his really need to be careful,, he has no use for women,, well maybe one.

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    77 Posted by guest | Permalink Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:06 PM

    My last and final words to Potdar after he failed my childs transplant because he thinks he's god was "Dr. Potdar what would you do if this was your daughter"? he only looked at me. After all we were just women did not matter. He close the hosp. door and walked and dismissed up. HE< did do wrong, the organ did NOT reject, he connected it WRONG. And as a mother he would not even speak to me would would Dad ??? why, because I am a woman, and did my daughter matter either,, nope only a "woman" So women patients of his really need to be careful,, he has no use for women,, well maybe one.

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    78 Posted by guest | Permalink Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:18 PM

    Ya Know I am a hormoal mess, and it's thanks to Santosh Potdar, live it with it.

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