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	<title>Comments on: Nationwide Layoff Watch: Manatt Keeps the Bad Times Rolling</title>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/03/nationwide-layoff-watch-manatt-keeps-the-bad-times-rolling/comment-page-2/#comment-459081</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They axed TAX attorneys? What kind of TTT is this place?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They axed TAX attorneys? What kind of TTT is this place?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ray Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Ray Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ship be sinking...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ship be sinking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://abovethelaw.com/2009/03/nationwide-layoff-watch-manatt-keeps-the-bad-times-rolling/comment-page-2/#comment-459057</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are all the layoffs in the LA office?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are all the layoffs in the LA office?</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>litigation attorneys were axed too.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>litigation attorneys were axed too.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay! welcome to my world! I&#039;ve been laid off!

now, come to my blog: laidoffdiary.wordpress.com and tell me what&#039;s on your mind!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay! welcome to my world! I&#8217;ve been laid off!</p>
<p>now, come to my blog: laidoffdiary.wordpress.com and tell me what&#8217;s on your mind!</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12--

Advise?  How about advice?  You must have been admitted to whatever schools you attended under the George W. Bush affirmative action plan.  Who are you trying to impress with your writing?

Oh,and one more thing:  HOW DARE YOU, SIR!!!

--Junkyard Dog

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<p>Advise?  How about advice?  You must have been admitted to whatever schools you attended under the George W. Bush affirmative action plan.  Who are you trying to impress with your writing?</p>
<p>Oh,and one more thing:  HOW DARE YOU, SIR!!!</p>
<p>&#8211;Junkyard Dog</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m putting a shout out to my fellow layoff-ees - when you were axed, did your firm pay you for accrued but unused sick days? Mine didn&#039;t even though I asked - twice. No explanation but they did pay me for accrued and unused vacation. My reading of California law is sick pay, like vacation pay, is a form of deferred compensation that an employer is required to pay upon dismissal.

Has anyone come up against this issue? Am I missing something here? Does it really depend on the specific language utilized in the employee manual as suggested by someone? I need the severance so I&#039;m not going to raise it with my former firm until my last paycheck clears. For the most part, I&#039;m okay with the layoff - wasn&#039;t really working out for me there anyway - but I have 32 days accrued and that&#039;s more than one month&#039;s salary. I&#039;m not rich enough to kiss off $13K - $15K.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m putting a shout out to my fellow layoff-ees &#8211; when you were axed, did your firm pay you for accrued but unused sick days? Mine didn&#8217;t even though I asked &#8211; twice. No explanation but they did pay me for accrued and unused vacation. My reading of California law is sick pay, like vacation pay, is a form of deferred compensation that an employer is required to pay upon dismissal.</p>
<p>Has anyone come up against this issue? Am I missing something here? Does it really depend on the specific language utilized in the employee manual as suggested by someone? I need the severance so I&#8217;m not going to raise it with my former firm until my last paycheck clears. For the most part, I&#8217;m okay with the layoff &#8211; wasn&#8217;t really working out for me there anyway &#8211; but I have 32 days accrued and that&#8217;s more than one month&#8217;s salary. I&#8217;m not rich enough to kiss off $13K &#8211; $15K.</p>
<p>Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>43--If you are in California, the designated accrual of sick days apart from vacation or general PTO days probably means that you have to be sick to take the time, and thus accrued sick days are not payable as part of final wages.  Check your employee handbook for claiming payment for accrued sick days.   Also, if you receive a severance amount that is greater than the firm would owe you in sick days and other compensation (assuming anything at all would be owed), you have effectively been paid an amount that us undisputedly above what you were owed and thus you could not prove damages.  Still, if you want to ask...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>43&#8211;If you are in California, the designated accrual of sick days apart from vacation or general PTO days probably means that you have to be sick to take the time, and thus accrued sick days are not payable as part of final wages.  Check your employee handbook for claiming payment for accrued sick days.   Also, if you receive a severance amount that is greater than the firm would owe you in sick days and other compensation (assuming anything at all would be owed), you have effectively been paid an amount that us undisputedly above what you were owed and thus you could not prove damages.  Still, if you want to ask&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #43 - I&#039;m not an employment lawyer but my guess (with the standard disclaimer: this ain&#039;t legal advice so don&#039;t rely on it) is that due to your professional, non-hourly employee status as an associate attorney while at your firm, the law firm would not be required to pay you compensation for unused sick days.  But check your employment manual, if the firm gave you one.  Also, I assume some states such as NY and California may have more liberal employment laws; otherwise, its probably up to the firm in its discretion if they want to &quot;reward&quot; you for not taking sick, although I spent many days feeling sick about the boring assignments (government contracts, barf)  I got in my first year as a young associate.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #43 &#8211; I&#8217;m not an employment lawyer but my guess (with the standard disclaimer: this ain&#8217;t legal advice so don&#8217;t rely on it) is that due to your professional, non-hourly employee status as an associate attorney while at your firm, the law firm would not be required to pay you compensation for unused sick days.  But check your employment manual, if the firm gave you one.  Also, I assume some states such as NY and California may have more liberal employment laws; otherwise, its probably up to the firm in its discretion if they want to &#8220;reward&#8221; you for not taking sick, although I spent many days feeling sick about the boring assignments (government contracts, barf)  I got in my first year as a young associate.</p>
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		<title>By: BHO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BHO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change has arrived for 25 more people at manatt.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change has arrived for 25 more people at manatt.</p>
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