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ATL -
What, the hell, am I supposed to do [as a recently laid off associate] when I am NOT looking for a job? Bottom line, getting rejected only takes up so much of my day. What kinds of things should I be doing with the rest of it. You know, when is it okay for me to start drinking (noon, two, sundown)? And what kind of cheap alcohol should I be looking at now that I can’t afford top-shelf? Any good T.V. shows I should be catching up on (I’m done with Law & Order. D-U-N!) How often should I expect my still employed friends to come out and drink with me (I know 7 days a week isn’t the right answer … what about six?)
Welcome to the Jungle
Dear Welcome to the Jungle,
Luckily you’ve come to the right source - between Elie and I, we’ve got years of unemployment under our belts. It takes some adjusting, but after those first two weeks of joblessness are over and you’re tired of cursing the day you were born, it’s time to get up off the couch, wipe off the Sour Patch Kids dust, and get moving.
Congratulations - it sounds like you’re over the self-loathing part and are already job hunting. As you correctly pointed out - this takes up very little of the day as a) there are few jobs to be had and b) you might as well be sending your resume into outer space because nobody’s getting back to you anyway. That’s why, if you don’t have a job, your job is to be in the best damn shape of your life. It’s simple survival of the fittest - if you lose your craft, you must rely on your plumage to survive. My mom once said, “if you can’t play the sport, look good on the court,” and though she was referring to a particular outfit she bought for step class in the hopes of impressing her instructor Alfonso, it does help to look good when you feel like your life is falling apart. One’s psyche is not benefited by spending days pounding Klondike bars and Bailey’s Irish Cream while watching repeats of The Amazing Race on Hulu from bed on one’s laptop. A very close friend of mine can attest to this.
In terms of what tv to watch, I strenuously recommend a strict diet of reality TV only. The Bachelor, What Not to Wear, Intervention, Sober House, The Biggest Loser, Tool Academy - these shows were designed to make you feel better about yourself. You may be unemployed, but at least you’re not groveling for roses, wearing hideous clothes, a heroin addict, a recovering heroin addict, morbidly obese or a douchebag with unsightly tribal tattoos, respectively. I draw the line at Dancing with the Stars, however. I may be unemployed but I still have my dignity.
My advice: work out, apply to jobs, be proactive, attend to your pet, learn to cook, write your book, complain to friends, clean your apartment. Make sure that your affairs are in order so that when a job or a very rich man or woman comes your way, you are in the best position to pounce. If you build it, they will come.
Your friend,
Marin
Elie sets adrift on memory bliss after the jump.
After you finish doing whatever you are going to do to look for work, your only goal should be pure, unfettered, escapism. If Soma existed, I’d say take that until the severance runs out.Working out is useless. You don’t have a job, who are you keeping up appearances for? You’re running out of money, why drink Bailey’s when you can have Emmet’s, which is not nearly as good for half the price?
Don’t take up a hobby, don’t try to become a “better” person. There’s was nothing you could do to keep your job, don’t lie to yourself and believe that there is a whole lot you can do to get a new one. Blaming yourself is the easy way out, because sometimes retreat is the hardest thing to do. Just. Let. Go.
Luckily, there are many ways to escape from the cruel realities of the real world from the comfort of your couch. You don’t even need narcotics (you want to escape to a new reality, not uselessly try to alter the current one). Just go to a Best Buy and pick up a copy of Civilization IV.
If you’ve played Civ, you already know that it is one of the five best things currently available on Earth. If you don’t know Civ, but have lost your job (or want to lose your job) just go pick up a copy. You can thank me in three months when you surface.
For television, Star Trek: TNG is always on and has a great underlying philosophy about working for one’s own self improvement. It’s great because it reminds you that you didn’t like that old job anyway. There’s no way you would be a Starfleet lawyer.
I also suggest developing an unreasonable crush on one of the cable news anchors. (Mmm … Tamron Hall). That way your gf/bf checks in on you everyday, and each time he/she wears something different.
Civ, Star Trek, News Porn. There aren’t enough hours in the day to enjoy all of that goodness.
Trust me,
Bizarro Aldous Huxley
The difference between and Elie’s and my philosophies can be expressed as Britney 2007 v. Britney 2009. Elie’s essentially encouraging you to dump your long-time manager, drink Venti Frappuccinos, shave your head, have a second kid with a back-up dancer, and drive back and forth between Sonic and Promises rehab. That didn’t work for Britney - her apropos album “Blackout” didn’t sell and you saw that 2007 VMA performance, and it won’t work for you. America loves a comeback so be the comeback Britney: slightly haggard but still sparkling.





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Elie and me
Elie and me
I've been spending my days elaborately planning my public suicide.
-suicidal laid off 1st year
elie SUCKS!
I don't know if it will make you feel better about yourself, but if you want great T.V., it does not get better than "The Wire." Rent the first DVD of Season 1 and give it a shot--you will not be disappointed.
I spend the other half of my day cursing the office managing partner of the firm that laid me off.
-suicidal laid off 1st year
The resemblance of Elie to PM Dawn is startling.
Man, this is all the stuff I did when I HAD a job.
Note to the unemployed: if you run rotgut vodka through a Britta water filter a couple of times, the stuff becomes tolerable.
Anyone else SHOCKED that Elie doesn't recommend going to the gym?
I 100% completely agree with Marin. Hell, I've already done half of the things mentioned (work out, complain to friends and am now cleaning my apartment.
Somebody cover the suicidal guy with chocolate so Elie can eat him and make him go away.
14--
14--
Harsh.
I am shocked that no one has discussed applying for a job at Redass Lobster.
As far as the booze questions:
1.) My rule is that you're allowed to drink beer or wine when the clock hits double digits, and hard stuff when it goes back to single digits. Mimosas and bloodies are the exceptions that prove the rule.
2.) As far as cheap booze, go for Seven and Seven (though I actually use Diet Sprite). Four stiff drinks will get you nice and drunk. If you buy the big plastic jug, the per-drink cost is about $0.80 a drink, maybe a touch more if you are generous. ($18 for the jug divided by 30 standard pours, plus 20 cents for half a can of 7-Up or Sprite). That's going to be around $25 a week per person in booze costs (I'm assuming that you get sick-drunk one day). Versus wine, that's a savings of around 70% -- it's on par with getting drunk on really cheap beer, and who wants to do that?
"In terms of what tv to watch, I strenuously recommend a strict of reality TV only. "
Elie's contagion spreads.
As far as the booze questions:
1.) My rule is that you're allowed to drink beer or wine when the clock hits double digits, and hard stuff when it goes back to single digits. Mimosas and bloodies are the exceptions that prove the rule.
2.) As far as cheap booze, go for Seven and Seven (though I actually use Diet Sprite). Four stiff drinks will get you nice and drunk. If you buy the big plastic jug, the per-drink cost is about $0.80 a drink, maybe a touch more if you are generous. ($18 for the jug divided by 30 standard pours, plus 20 cents for half a can of 7-Up or Sprite). That's going to be around $25 a week per person in booze costs (I'm assuming that you get sick-drunk one day). Versus wine, that's a savings of around 70% -- it's on par with getting drunk on really cheap beer, and who wants to do that?
In all honesty, I would suggest photography. You likely live in New York City. If the economy stays the way it is, that won't always be the case. Why not record this most beautiful city while there's still time?
I suggest selling all you stuff an shooting heroin and crack smoking
I second 9's comment. Anyone who can watch the first three episodes of season one of The Wire (that's the first DVD) and not think this is the greatest show in history should get rid of their television.
Elie writes:
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Working out is useless....
Luckily, there are many ways to escape from the cruel realities of the real world from the comfort of your couch...
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predictable
Dear Above the Law Editors,
How much is sallie mae paying you to post articles encouraging laid off attorneys to not kill self?
-suicidal laid off 1st year
If you do pick up Civ IV, be sure to download the Fall from Heaven II mod, which is arguably better than the game itself.
9/25 -
Indeed.
-Omar
9, 25: Have you seen any of the later seasons? I enjoyed Season I but have been afraid to commit to another DVD purchase.
30- Just get the box set. All of the seasons are amazing. Each one tackling a certain aspect of Baltimore (docks, city hall, schools, etc). The box set will cost you less than buying each individually. Best DVD purchase I have made in a long long time.
Not 9 or 25
Come on Elie, nobody in their right mind should be playing Civ IV right now.
If you've been laid off, go to Best Buy and walk out with the latest expansion for World of Warcraft.
You don't have a job? Well congratulations, because WoW is a full time job. Heck, you can even take up a new profession IN the game. And you can make tons and tons of fake money.
That fake money is important, because you can actually that to other people in the game, and they will pay you REAL money for it.
Think of it like the high-tech version of the guys who donated blood plasma three times a week to earn beer money in college. Only with less expectation of sex.
Trust me, if you start playing WoW the day after you get laid off, by the end of the week you won't even care that you can't find a new job. In fact, you won't even have time to worry about finding a job IRL because you'll be way too busy worrying about finding a new guild in WoW.
Top THAT Civ IV.
30: Season Two is a bit of a letdown. Seasons Three and Four make Season One look like a mediocre season of Knight Rider. Seriously, they're REALLY good.
A message from the ATL-reading Conjoined Twins:
Abigail: “To all the ATL readers who don’t like us, eat me.”
Britanny: “Yeah. Actually, eat us. If you don’t like us, or don’t get the joke, or don’t understand the obvious metaphors that we present, just skip over our posts, you fucking idiots.”
Abigail: “Yeah, and Elie, why did you block our IP address and account from posting? Don’t you realize it is a big production for us to have to go to a public library to use ATL? Elie, you obviously have a secret sexual thing for us.”
Britanny: “Yup. Elie probably has a conjoined twins fetish and is in denial about it, so he doesn’t want to face his perversion every time he sees our posts and feels compelled to read them.”
Abigail: "True that."
Not to sound like too much of a gunner, but you should be keeping up with developments in your practice area. Read industry publications, newsletters, important opinions, etc., so that when you do eventually get an interview, you'll at least have a chance of not sounded like you've been living in a cave for 6 months.
It doesn't have to be an all day thing (an hour or 2 a day is more than sufficient), but you should at least try to do something productive. That and spend at least 2 hours a day in the gym. If you can't be working, you can at least be in great shape.
Abigail: “All of this suicide talk in the ATL comments is bumming me out. Do these law students and laid off associates even realize how well they have it in life?”
Brittany: “Jesus Christ, will you get a life and stop reading ATL all day? I got real work to do here. I’m tired of your unemployed ass mooching off of my hard work 24/7.”
Abigail: “Gee. I wonder, if one of us ever decides to ‘eat a gun,’ what would happen to the other one?”
Brittany: “That’s a good question. You give it a try first and I’ll be sure to take notes on what happens.”
20, 22 has got it right as to point #2. 7&7 is the way to go. although i don't agree with #1.
Best cheap Bourbon of all time- Evan Williams. $18 for a handle. beats the hell out of Jack (i know Jack isn't bourbon).
While all seasons of The Wire are brilliant, Season 2, for some reason, is my favorite.
13,
You watched the Mythbusters on yesterday, too, huh?
Losing track of who I'm responding to and I'm too lazy to scroll up, but I think season one is the best, followed very closely by three and four (especially four - the kids are great) and then two. Five was kind of disappointing. They stuffed too much in a shortened season and I thought the whole homeless killings premise was kind of hokey. That said, it is still better than anything on TV. Other than sports.
Just get the box set and forget about your life for a week.
40: 13 here. No, I've been unemployed for 3 months now, and have been using this method to stretch my funds.
I tried drinking MD 20/20, but couldn't even choke down a glassful....not sure how I did it in college.
I also liked Season 2, when else could you get a glimpse of the stevedore life? Weird.
McNulty was more fun when he was a drunk though.
And Omar rocks.
42,
They ran cheap vodka through a filter 6 times. A professional taster (blind test) rated each filtration better than the last, with the sixth almost as good (but not quite) as a top-end vodka.
Also, it seems that a bullet shot straight up in the air can't kill you on the way down, but at even a slight angle it can. But that's perhaps slightly less on topic.
- 40
31, 33 and 44: Thanks!
Catch up on Battlestar Galactica and you may even be finished in time for the series finale in a couple weeks.
Stay away from Irish Cream -- delicious, but a HUGE waste of money in terms of bang for your buck. A whole bottle of Bailey's leaves me feeling only vaguely tipsy, and I'm a 5'7", 140-pound woman. You'll burn through your cash WAY too fast trying that route to blissful drunkenness. The 7 & 7 idea isn't a bad one, if you can stand the stuff. Personally, I'm partial to Jim Beam. Five ounces of it should make you feel pretty relaxed. I think they retail for somewhere around 15-20 bucks a bottle, which should hold you at least 4-5 days.
As for games, WOW is a good suggestion. I'd also throw in a giant-sized sandbox like GTA4 or Fallout 3. If you want something a little more linear and single-plot-focused I'd recommend Bioshock, which isn't remotely sandboxy, but IS nice and long. Also creepy as hell, which, if you used to work in a law firm, should feel like a comfortable old blanket by now.
No wonder Elie likes Tamron Hall - her first name looks like it's got a typo in it.
friday night lights = best show on tv. period. the smash rulez.
As far as the cold-blooded lay-offs go, it's all in the game.
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/03/09/85-the-wire/
Also, you can watch it all, for free, at watchtvsitcoms.com
You just click "cancel" everytime it wants you to do something (e.g., download a program); even if you click "cancel" you'll still be able to watch the programs.
After you're done with the Wire, you can watch Arrested Development.
HTH
46: You sound like a really cool dude.
Dr. Gonzo,
Chick, actually, but thanks!
-46
51,
I think Gonzo's about to ask if you'd like to join him for a private Battlestar Galactica session. :)
multiple years of unemployment aren't the only thing Elie has under his belt. There's a fair number of Twinkies too.
46
Smell that? Sniff, sniff. Mmmmm. Sarcasm.
I can read.
1) You've consumed an entire bottle of Bailey's
2) You watch Battlestar Gallactica
3) You know A LOT about video games
Thus,
If you were a dude, you'd be pimpled and own lots of hand lotion, but your position as nerd in society is both accepted and secure.
As a chick, you're well on your way to being the crazy cat lady that people wish would just move away.
It's called a double standard because it's twice as true.
HTH
I ran one errand today and just did a little yard cleanup. I could have done more but I'm lazy and unmotivated.
Civ IV is possibly the greatest game ever and you can easily spend 8 to 10 hours playing it without realizing that you have not eaten or showered or relieved yourself. (Just...one...more...turn...)
It also does not invite the same universal condemnation that World of Warcraft does. There has not yet been a South Park episode caricaturing Civ 4 players as obese pimpled losers that crap in a portable stool held by their crack-whore mom, so you can still maintain your dignity at least. And it teaches you history!
I second #9's recommendation of The Wire but I must confess I totally watch reality tv to make me feel better about myself.
Suggestions on timewasting:
TV: The Wire is great, but the Sopranos might be more enjoyable to the unemployed. Watching Tony beat the shit out of people can be cathartic. If you've already seen it, watch it again - it holds up to repeated viewings.
Video Games: World of Warcraft all the way. There is no better game for sucking up all your free hours like a sponge. It can be a bigger time commitment than your biglaw job if you get into it. And, it runs on a pretty shitty computer.
And learn to love cheap vodka.
After getting laid off, I spend my weekday mornings/afternoons trying to keep my legal skills current by watching Cristina's Court, then Judge David Young, then Judge Hatchett, then Divorce Court (switching between Family Court with Judge Penny), then Judge Karen, then Judge Alex (switching between Judge Mathis), then Judge Joe Brown (switching between Judge Jeanine Pirro), and finally, the People's Court (switching between Judge Judy).
If I can only get some free CLE Skills credits for watching this shit...
All of the seasons of the wire are good. It's a good idea to buy the whole series.
The best thing about the season involving the homeless killings was the result of the FBI's profile analysis of the killer. That was the funniest thing I've seen on the show -- ever. Man, they really nailed that one.
As for how to spend your time, go to the gym. Let's face it -- a smart lawyer in good shape is going to get the job before a smart lawyer that's out of shape. People discriminate based on looks all the time. It's even legal. Go figure.
Dr. Gonzo,
1) You might be able to read, but you can't spell.
2) Your tiny mind can't account for the possibility of people who don't exemplify stereotypes.
3) You're so uncreative you can't come up with a better female stereotype than "crazy cat lady," even though that stereotype is night-and-day different from "pimply video game nerd."
Physician, heal thyself.
And good luck getting laid, like, evar.
The Wire is the best tv show ever to exist, ever. Although we are loving the Generation Kill DVDs too.
And I also recommend 7&7, but my white trash family drinks Candian Club Whiskey. It's not bad for a quick buzz.
Wallow in self-pity for a week. Update resume. Exercise- if you can't pay for a gym, go out and run or walk, just get up off your a**. Join some group- NY Roadrunners, political action groups, park cleanup group, church/synagogue work group, etc. Now is the time to figure out that your network is where you find out about job vacancies. Do some charity work so that you see that your "pity party" isn't helping anything.
Watch "Live Free or Die Hard" and take to heart the words of the daughter- dig deep and find a pair, cause you're gonna need them. Man up or woman up. There's only one thing that "they" can't take away from you- what's between your ears. You paid for that education, use it.
As for TV - I think you should watch Damages.
As for killing time: I think you should take Marin's advice -- workout, clean your apartment, straighten up any loose ends in your life (i.e. taxes, bills, neglect of friends), go visit your mom for a while and let her do your laundry again, learn too cook (may be expensive habit so do it at mom's house if she'll buy the ingredients), read a few good books, workout some more.
However, there are also more important things to be doing which will help make conversation if and when you ever get an interview -- volunteer your time at a local legal clinic, start going to local bar association events, volunteer to mentor a local law student, take some commericial CLE classes in the area that you are interested in practicing, ask working friends to take you to lunch so you can keep up with the legal gossip and goings on.
As for TV - I think you should watch Damages.
As for killing time: I think you should take Marin's advice -- workout, clean your apartment, straighten up any loose ends in your life (i.e. taxes, bills, neglect of friends), go visit your mom for a while and let her do your laundry again, learn too cook (may be expensive habit so do it at mom's house if she'll buy the ingredients), read a few good books, workout some more.
However, there are also more important things to be doing which will help make conversation if and when you ever get an interview -- volunteer your time at a local legal clinic, start going to local bar association events, volunteer to mentor a local law student, take some commericial CLE classes in the area that you are interested in practicing, ask working friends to take you to lunch so you can keep up with the legal gossip and goings on.
"A" crazy cat lady may be an uncreative stereotype, but "the" crazy cat lady is not. Her name is Eleanor Abernathy and she was once a lawyer too.
I'd wager that my tiny mind has already experienced more of this world and touched more lives in a positive way than you ever will. Regardless, getting you all worked up passes the time.
Sorry I misspelled your nerd show.
Whether I ever get laid (again) is entirely up to my wife. Though I wouldn't guarantee it, I'm pretty sure it'll happen sometime.
Thanks for playing.
46 - you actually sound fat and lame to me. 5'7 and 140? are you kidding. and who drinks baileys irish cream anyway other than at a firm dinner when the irish coffee is free and you don't want just the caffeine. i am 5'10 and 120 and like to drink 10% + beers like dogfish head 90 min or victory golden monkey or drink vodka tonics. no wonder you weigh 140 - b/c you've drank enough baileys to know it's a waste of time and alcohol.
Tamron Hall's an idiot. Robin Meade is the only right answer here.
Welcome to Alcoholics Anonymous! No - purely social. I know someone who is an alchoholic and it is no laughing matter - particularly for his wife. And she's got alopecia. So... not a happy homelife.
67 gets it.
I initially stayed away from the stats, but let's do some simple math:
5'7" x 140 lbs. +
bottle of Bailey's* +
hours playing video games when you are already in a demanding profession** =
someone who displays zero interest in physical, intellectual, or spiritual self-improvement =
Elie's soul mate =
Loser.
*I still can't get over that Bailey's comment. Drinking an entire bottle of Bailey's IF you're a small group of high school girls is ALMOST acceptable.
** If you're not in the profession, you don't count around here. If you are, try doing something meaningful with your precious free time - like reading a book or getting your fat ass to the gym so my insurance premiums go down.
HTH
thanks, 70. but even if she isn't doing something productive like working out or reading (which she should be working out after wasting her time on baileys), she shouldn't be pretending to not drink baileys but go straight to 7&7s. no girls drink them anyway. just like no girls past senior week in HS who stole their parents' crap liquor cabinet drinks really drink irish freaking cream. get a life.
140 and 5'7" is not fat. Jesus. The healthy body mass index for someone who is 5'7" is 130 to 160. Thanks for encouraging women to feel fat when they are actually not. Jerks.
You've been canned and you're pissed off . . . Get your hands on some DVDs from any season of The Shield or try Dexter. If watching Vic Mackey beat the shit out of some punk or Dexter offing some scumbag doesn't make you feel better, hit the bottle or weed.
I really like Damages, too, but you might not be ready to watch a series about high-profile and well-paid attorneys. Lost is another great series, but if you're not a regular viewer, it's pointless to start watching now.
7, be sure to give us plenty of advance notice. I'm sure I speak for nearly everyone here that we cannot wait to view the spectacle.
32's got a point. Lose your job as an attorney? Be a gold farmer!
Things I did while unemployed:
1. Visited the grandmothers
2. Started a compost pile
3. Started a vegetable garden
4. Cleaned out the house, sold old things on ebay, and donated the rest
5. Got ordained on the internet
6. Read Twilight
7. Volunteered doing something nonlegal
8. Started a recycling system
9. Became a vegetarian
Of course, now that I'm working again, the garden lies fallow and the house is again a mess. At least I can afford steak now.
News porn = Becky Quick - ahhhh.....
Gonzo = dipshit prick who spends all day in flame wars on ATL ignoring job, wife, gym, etc.. That being said, 5'7"/140 is worth a few trips to the gym or some lower cal alcohol.
Duh - here is your instruction manual, courtesy of a former Lehman Bros employee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjX6aKLy2N4
72 -
Decent analysis of the height - weight issue. I like your appeal to authority and use of government statistics.
That said, I want to fuck hot, not healthy. Be hot or be gone.
I'll take a 5'7" 140-lb Marylin Monroe over a 5'10" 120-lb. Ann Coulter any day. SCHWING!