Kirkland ‘Perk’ Watch: Starbucks AND Dunkin’ Donuts at the New Chicago Office
Kirkland & Ellis associates in Chicago are settling into brand new offices this week. A firm press release says that Kirkland will be taking up about half of a newly constructed 60-story building at 300 North LaSalle. If they’re on the top half, it looks like they’ll be towering over the rest of Chicago from these photos.
This 2005 ABA Journal article on the planned move and law firms as the ideal tenants made us wistful for the heady early aughts, quoting a real estate agent: “Law firms are the growth engines in these markets.They are among the most coveted tenants out there. They are large, and growing, as opposed to organizations that are shedding space and downsizing.” Sigh.
Associates are happy with the new digs, but the best part of the move may be the new cafeteria coffee policy, says one:
We just moved into a brand new shiny building at 300 N. LaSalle here in Chicago, and it is *fabulous*. Best perk (that I can find so far): they brew both Starbucks and Dunkin’ Donuts coffee on each floor’s cafeteria. Delicious!
Eat (or drink) your heart out, McDermott Will & Emery.
This set off a discussion among your ATL editors about one of the greatest debates of modern times: Starbucks v. Dunkin’ Donuts. Weigh in with your preference, after the jump.
We think Kirkland’s decision to have both is wise, and in the words of our EIC, “Solomon-esque.”
But what if you couldn’t have both? If your firm were deciding between the beckoning mermaid and the colorful double D’s, which one would you want it to choose?
Moving On Up [ABA Journal]




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Starbucks FTW!
Kirkland is first and I am 2nd
Ah, to be on the top floor towering over the rest of the city. Wasn't there a building in NYC where you could do that once? How did that work out?
I got food poisoning at K&E's old food court once. Place was terrible.
YEAH DUNKIN DONUTS!!!
- Securityeven
"...each floor's cafeteria."
Why would each floor have its own cafeteria? I hope they mean the little nook where the fridge is.
Time to make the cutbacks.
Starbucks for hot coffee and DD for ice coffee.
This is the only correct response.
Peet's>DD>Starbucks
Starbucks is useless except for providing a moderately clean bathroom for heroin addicts to shoot up in. Anyone that prefers their coffee to ANY OTHER COFFEE IN THE WORLD is out of their mind.
Pretty sure they are not on the top floors. I think they took the lower ones to lower cost. Could be wrong though.
Nothing good comes from DD, not even the donuts.
I'll take a DD in each hand from the Starbucks mermaid, please.
I'm also fairly sure they're taking the bottom floors - that was the plan as of last summer.
False Dichotomy.
The poll demonstrates the East Coast bias of this website.
Wow...slow news day.
11-Even if they did take the top floors, they aren't even in the top ten tallest buildings in Chicago.
How is this a post? Are we seriously debating the merits of Starbucks and Dunkin' Donuts?
People that have taste prefer SBUX...
K&E took space in "the low-rise and mid-rise sections of the building."
http://www.hines.com/press/releases/07-31-06.aspx
"on each floor's cafeteria" - gouging my eyes out
Given the toward trend in the Dow, they'll probably be serving Sanka in a few months.
Given the downward trend in the Dow, they'll probably be serving Sanka in a few months.
Kirkland aids in the coffee.
DD is FAR better than Starbucks- 'nuff said.
3 is a soulless loser. Ooooooh, you can pick on thousands of dead people. Maybe that's why no one goes out with you.
Dunkin FTW, simply because they don't have that douchey system where tall = small.
Not even near the top 10 buildings. It's across the river so look south, east or even north east and you'll see that the building doesn't tower over much of anything in the Loop.
The Starbucks Marketing Switch is a story in marketing magnificence taught at business schools throughout the world.
When Starbucks was in its infancy they noticed something peculiar - certain customers always went for the high priced, high margin drinks (mocha, cappuccino, etc.), whereas most other customers never strayed from the regular coffee. HOWEVER, the customers that usually drank the coffee and then tried the other drinks sometimes migrated over to drink the other drinks more consistently.
Someone at Starbucks had what may be the brightest idea ever to grace the coffee bar. What if Starbucks, instead of selling good-tasting, well-roasted coffee, sold horribly burned mud that they CALLED coffee; AND THEN, what if they marketed this mud as "coffee aficionado's coffee?"
Well, they tried it out to see what would happen. Not surprisingly, many people thought the new brew was disgusting (and some people thought it was disgusting but continued to drink it because . . . hey, they were hip, right?). However, many people who thought the coffee was disgusting only changed their daily routines slightly - instead of buying coffee for a buck fifty, they bought mochas for $4.00. Suddenly and almost overnight, Starbucks increased its margins substantially.
And they did it all by switching to a vastly inferior product. Marketing genius.
As far as I know, it's a 57-story building, but the top few floors were always reserved for another tenant. I don't think the original plans called for anything over 40, but I could be mistaken.
Kirkland took floors 4-14 and 23-39, attorneys in the higher floors. The conference rooms and reception are on 6-7 overlooking the river.
There's not a "cafeteria" on each floor, just a kitchen.
America runs on Dunkin.
Who wants to drink overpriced coffee from Starbucks? The coffee is overpriced because they insist on paying "fair wages" to farmers in mud hovels in third world countries. They tell you this makes them good people but leave out the part where those village farmer then have all their money taken by the powerful and violent drug cartels who provide "protection" for the farmers and starbucks trucks.
Dunkin Doughnuts all the way. If I'm going to be sipping the black gold that's destroying the 3rd world, I at least want it to be CHEAP.
I wouldn't accept any sort of beverage from a Kirklander even if I was half dead from dehydration.
DD, but with the caveat that you find one that brews the coffees separately, not just brews regular coffee and then puts the flavor shots in them.
I hate hippies.
Great time to be moving offices! Especially to LOTS of new space! Especially when the cost of that new space would have been negotiated at TOP OF THE MARKET RENTS for a VERY LONG TIME. Just like Cravath.
Office lease will kill (a) K+E PEP and (b) lots of associate and 'partner lite' jobs.
Starbucks, as long as they are brewing a dark roast (typically only before noon here). The default Pike's Place is awful. I had my delicious Komodo Dragon coffee today....
Wow- when there aren't layoffs to report, this site doesn't know what to do with itself.
Does DD and Starbucks sponsor Mystal?
America runs on Dunkin.
Who wants to drink overpriced coffee from Starbucks? The coffee is overpriced because they insist on paying "fair wages" to farmers in mud hovels in third world countries. They tell you this makes them good people but leave out the part where those village farmer then have all their money taken by the powerful and violent drug cartels who provide "protection" for the farmers and starbucks trucks.
Dunkin Doughnuts all the way. If I'm going to be sipping the black gold that's destroying the 3rd world, I at least want it to be CHEAP.
if you're a dmocrat, choose starbucks -- they give overhwelmingly to democrats in their corporate contributions.
DD used to be overwhelmingly republican, when owned by allied domecq. Now they're owned by PE shops, so still more balanced.
Chicago is a Dunkin Donuts town. Pay the same price as at Starbucks and you get two free donuts, and some might argue better coffee.
I'll keep my Green Mountain K-Cups.
Umm, I'd prefer to know exactly WHEN I can start deciding which coffee is better. WHEN IS MY START DATE???
K&E layoffs are coming. They just kept everyone on board (except some staff who got buyouts) until they packed up, "shreded" and shipped things off to storage for the big move.
I thought everyone in the Kirkland Chicago office was quarantined because of the rampant MRSA virus lurking in its hallways and cafeterias on every floor.
Flavia FTW
Starbucks' coffee gives me diarrhea!
So the ABA Journal is out covering how Jenner & Block just opened a new office in LA, taking two Kirkland partners...
...and you're writing about donuts.
Very nice, ATL.
Starbucks' coffee give me diarreah!
What firms still provide free asslobster to all associates and staff?
Starbucks' coffee give me diarreah!
30 is right. Kirkland used to tower over the city in its last building, which was the 2nd tallest in Chicago, and K&E had many of the top floors. The newer digs are a lot more modern and the views are still good though.
Kash -- a K&E post with no unsubstantiated layoff rumors? What's gotten into you?
DD is better than Charbucks, but since they're in Chicago they should get Intelligentsia or Metropolis if they want good coffee.
And K&E isn't "towering" over Chicago in their new offices -- hell, their old building was much taller than their new one. Latham is in the Sears Tower (or whatever it's going to be called now).
Starbucks is OK when i'm in a latte sorta mood - but for good ol' regular coffee, it's DD all the way!
Perhaps the move is the reason Kirkland has been delinquent in announcing start dates. No excuses now.
I agree with 39 - liberals should pay extra when purchasing anything, including their coffee - paying higher prices and more taxes is patriotic right?
That's change you can believe in (and have less of in your pocket!)
46, 48, 50:
Starbucks' coffee IS diarrhea!
Would you like that over ice?
Dunkin all the way........
Tassimo > Keurig > Flavia
Latham LA has a Peet's coffee
58, Kirkland also has Keurig.
35 hit the nail on the head. Starbucks's coffees other than Pike's are quite good.
And 36 also hit the nail on the head. ATL has really been reaching for stories over the last week or so, when there have been relatively few (if any) layoffs.
But 53 may have given the best advice of all: In Chicago, you gotta go with Intelligentsia.
Nope K&E towers no more! They have the "midsection" of the building. They are now far and away from Chicago's elegant shopping! No longer steps away from Michigan Avenue or State Street. Further from all the Courts and regulatory agencies. They'll need to take a cabs now. No longer close to any major transportation lines like the metra station... CTA trains, and a good hike to Olgvie Metra Station too. All they got for their many inconveniences are two choices of coffee!
Bingham serves Irish Coffee and roofies at all of its locations.
Starbucks has more caffeine, thus winning by default.
This would never happen in Ft Worth.
43, totally silly. Why waste the time resources to move people to the new building only to fire them. They would've sacked them before moving and not had them make the move if they were going to do it.
61 - Perkins Coie is laying off people today. At least in the Chicago office.
DD = crack.
Starbucks = cocaine.
But I'm a whore, so I'll keep drinking DD.
What floors did Kirkland have in the Aon Center? I recall them being only in the 50s or 60s, not quite at the top. There are still nice views from that level, though, because there isn't anything to block it around there.
I will say that their old digs were drab and outdated, and it didn't surprise me at all when they decided to move. Even though it was expensive, it's the kind of thing that they had to do pretty soon, and this stuff takes years to plan. I did bang a brief former girlfriend with her big tits pressed against the window of her office there, though. Good memories.
31 has it right. Only the best run on Dunkin!
The question is, is this really a "perk" or not?
That is to say, is this the free coffee that you get on each floor, or do you have to pay for it, like in a cafeteria?
Because if it's the latter, that's not much of a perk compared to stopping at one of the ubiquitous Starbucks and Dunkin donuts on your way to work.
69: Kirkland was mostly in the 50s and low 60s, but as they expanded they took over 73-75 as well. Aon goes up 80 stories.
man the day's half over and still havent heard from patner emeritus
Balls.
That's all I have to say.
Are Venable's offices as nice?
62 -
You obviously don't know your way around Chicago, host city for the 2016 Olympics. K&E's new offices are less than a block from the CTA Brown and Purple Line Station at Merchandise Mart. Their offices may be further from the Metra IC, but are now closer to the Metra trains at Ogilvie and Union Station. They are also closer to the Daley Center, the Thompson Building, City Hall, the Financial District and the federal courthouse.
I'm looking through my window at their uglyass building right now. For a city with world-class architecture, their new building is TTT.
Quarles & Brady occupies 50, and 51 with conference rooms on 41. Because they are higher up, this means they are better than K&E.
62 - What Chicago are you talking about? The only shopping the Aon Center is close to is the depressing retail ghetto that is Macy's, and it also manages to be uphill from the el, in a city not exactly known for its hilly terrain. The only metra Aon is close to is the South Shore line, which is great if you're choosing to live in Indiana for some reason. Not really a lot to sacrifice for brand new offices instead of the outdated relics they were in.
62, pass the peyote. K&E's building is closer to Mich Ave and State St (not that anyone cares) and there's a brown and purple line stop right next door at Merchandise Mart.
My understanding is that they do have the mid-level floors and there may be some inconvenience re the metra (maybe a shuttle system but I don't know), but have you ever been in Aon? I'd much prefer their new place.
starbucks. or aroma.
62, is crazy.
The new office has a much better location. All of the great River North restaurants for summer /recruiting lunches (once we start recruiting again). The Aon Center has nothing around it.
Also, mass transit is much better. Next to the Merchandise Mart which has a red/brown/purple EL to hit all of the northern hoods (Lincoln Park, Lakeview, Wrigleyville, etc.) where most associates live. Plus you get the LaSalle street buses.
I don't care about things like courts but the new building is equidistant (if not closer) to the Federal Court house in the Loop.
Are both kinds of coffee free, btw?
It's too bad Kirkland's new building is ugly as sin.
73 - PE was on an earlier thread - clearly you didn't have your Dunkin this morning.
Dunkin is easily better, even more so when price is factored in. And they have donuts!
If you want silly overpriced coffee-based drinks, go to Starbucks.
Yes, the coffee is free.
Also, free gym membership in the new building!
77 - this building is fantastic!
And Metropolis coffee FTW, behbeh
Said by others, but to sum up, in Chicago:
1. Intelligentsia is the best coffee
2. Starbucks is an adequate replacement
3. DD is for east coast expats who like the taste of ashtrays
82 you are a dimwit... Crossing that lovely bridge dead of winter to walk to court is murderous! You have to cross that lovely bridge to get to metra stations and to State Street. Button up good cause you gonna feel the cold! I lost a number of hats when my current firm was across the river there. And all those nice restaurants... be careful of the rats that hang out along the river. Trust me on that!
OH THIS IS BULLFISH HOW COULD DD BE AHEAD
--ANGRY R. ANGERSON
Dunkin Donuts? You people can't be serious...
It's trendy to hate on Starbucks and they are definitely a mega-corporation, but their coffee is consistent and decent and they're espresso is actually very good.
Small black coffee turbo at DD. Nuff said.
@7 & 10 = co-winners
91
Go fuck yourself. Please.
- Not 82
Hey 91 -- "You have to cross that lovely bridge to get to metra stations" -- you realize you are further from the metra station at aon? You also realize that if you're taking the metra home to the cold, bleak suburbs, you have other temperature-related problems?
@91 -- Shouldn't you be withering away with Kirkland AIDS right now?
82
Skadden's Chicago office eats pieces of shit offices like Kirkland's for breakfast.
91 -- There is a metra station -- right below the Aon Building! Enough of you insinity and terrible understanding of Chicago and surrounding burb's transit systems. I've worked in both locations and I know these things. And I've seen and smelled the rats along the river in the summer. Sure the summer associates are gonna love to eat of those restaurants! You must not be a Chicagoan.
93:
Starbucks coffee is terrible. The fact that you have bought into their marketing ploy notwithstanding.
Have someone help you out and do a blind taste test. You will be convinced. Starbucks is high priced swill.
Peet's all the way.
I agree #98.
Skadden's Chicago office eats pieces of shit for breakfast?
91 - Maybe you could spring for a cab to get to court, you cheap bastard.
Coffee Bean and muther fucking Tea Leaf
FOR THE WIN
104 here - sorry, my comment was directed at 90. 91, I have no clue about your spending habits. And I'm pretty sure 99's brand of crazy might be a threat to himself and others.
You are all idiots.
Skadden NYC
100 - What marketing ploy? You don't actually think that the coffee at Starbucks is consistent (whether you like it or not)? The coffee is good. You can spout off some over roasted criticism, and you might be right, but we're comparing it to dunkin fucking donuts, not some boutique French press brew. The DD stuff is indistinguishable from any of the other horrific cups that people buy from the guy with the cart selling bagels. NY'ers are typically a cultured bunch, but the DD trolling is absurd.
Even the map of Chicago is relegated to absurdity in this forum -- Dunkin Donuts rocks!
I don't know about the coffee, but the kool-aid here is delicious. Did I mention Kirkland is the best law firm in the world?
I feel sorry for all the poor bastards who don't have Peet's nearby.
Coffee is for pussies.
Coke on a Tuesday.
Kirkland's offices are nice.
There I said it.
How dare ATL post a story about something happening in Chicago??? I mean, Chicago???
I agree with 93. It's so trendy to hate on Starbucks and suckle on DD and its no frills approach. But DD is swill, it's watered down, and DD wouldn't know what a fresh coffee bean smells like if you shoved one up its nose.
Starbucks is not God's gift to coffee. Really, no store bought cup is all that good (I generally buy whole beans at Eli's). But if you are on the go and need the quick caffeine hit, at least Starbucks doesn't make you feel like a junkie jonesing for a fix.
Comparing SB to DD is like comparing a mass produced futon to an unvarnished park bench. And I'd rather have splinters in my ass than choke down DD.
Of course, that's just me.
--Elie
Jesus Christ, 99, you realize that there are different Metra stations, right? And you realize that different trains that go to and come from different places go to different stations, right? And you realize that very few Kirkland associates or partners live on the South Shore or Electric lines, right? I mean, I feel bad that staff from Hammond are going to find it harder to get to and from work, but I'm going to go ahead and point out that location of public transportation important to staff was probably not Kirkland's top criterion in selecting an office location.
I mean, I have no dog in this hunt (aside from my comment at 69, dude), but anyone has to admit that the new location is a better location for a vast majority of Kirkland partners, a significant majority of associates and, most importantly, most clients.
116 – Well aware that there is more than one Metra station in Chicago! They all go to different suburban locales. Point is and stands that K&E's new location is far and away from all of them! No just the one for the lowly staff members leading to icky Indiana! Look at a map man! East of the river is far and away from most client’s I’d like to have. Nothing like being IN THE LOOP. In Chicago and K&E has just moved itself out of the loop… to midsection floors – not over looking nothing but the river rats! Hey, that was good --- LOL.
117 - You may want to rotate your map a bit. The new building is north of the river. I'm pretty sure that being east of the river would put you in the Loop. Which the AON building is not in, either.
Also, take your meds.
Elie - next time you're in SoCal try the Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf -- same concept as Starbucks but with 10 times the quality of the espresso-based coffees they make.
105 - right on!!!
Should I stop repeatedly punching myself in the balls every time I hear a bell ring?
the loop is actually defined by the tracks of the el. Aon Bldg wasn't in the loop either. Of course, that doesn't mean that Kirkland still isn't the best firm in Chi and that all of you other firms on here bashing architecture and proximity to metra stops aren't just competing for second.
You idiot. Of course its North of the river! That's what I've been talking about. Ding dong! Anything NORTH of the RIVER is OUT OF THE LOOP. And Randolph Street which they WERE on IS the tip of the LOOP -- "U" are definitely not a born and bred Chicagoan! Chicago's loop looks like a "U"! K&E was at the tip of it on Randolph! THE END.
Skadden does have the more attractive building -- at least from the outside.
Apparently 50 Kirkland associates and 25 non-equity partners were not told about the move.
I love coffee. Starbucks coffee is burnt crap. Their dark roasts are just charred beans, they're awful. That new Pikes Place stuff isn't great, but at least it doesn't taste like burnt garbage.
DD isn't good either, but you know what you're getting there. It's smooth, light, and not burnt. Poor substitute for those who like darker roasts, but Starbucks is crap, especially when it's not that hard to get Intelligentsia somewhere or another in the same area.
Maybe Starbucks espresso and espresso drinks are good. I don't drink those so I wouldn't know.
Skadden's offices are larger and nicer than Kirkland's.
To: Elie
Re: Comments 122, 117, 99 etc.
Please make ATL's crazy janitor stop posting comments. He's distracting the rest of us from this important coffee debate.
Thanks.
122, the Aon Center is probably as close to the Loop as the new place is. And the new place is two blocks from the Clark/Lake massive El transfer point (the entrance is through the 203 N LaSalle building), which is actually close to most of the El lines than the Aon Center was.
I think we need to stop feeding the troll.
He needs his meds, and some professional help (and a map).
117, Google Maps says that, walking, Aon Center is 1.4 miles to Ogilvie and 1.6 miles to Union Station. 300 N. La Salle is 1 mile to Union Station and .8 miles to Ogilvie. So you should look at a map.
Many clients are all over, so, if they are coming to Kirkland's office, they are taking a cab from the airport. The Aon Center is a total pain in the ass to get to with a car. The new place will be much easier. In my practice (a transactional practice that Kirkland has a large group doing), our local clients are funds and financial institutions, and there are way, way more of them around where Kirkland is going than where they were. Finally, clients do care about offices looking nice. Kirkland's old ones looked like shit.
The Aon Center is not in the Loop, either. I guess that I will concede that the office move is bad news for you if you are obsessed about never seeing rats. Will you STFU now?
I am not out of the loop. I am in the loop and I am prestigious.
N. Wacker Stud
McDermott Will & Emery sucks. The firm should not be compared to K&E.
117, Google Maps says that, walking, Aon Center is 1.4 miles to Ogilvie and 1.6 miles to Union Station. 300 N. La Salle is 1 mile to Union Station and .8 miles to Ogilvie. So you should look at a map.
Many clients are all over, so, if they are coming to Kirkland's office, they are taking a cab from the airport. The Aon Center is a total pain in the ass to get to with a car. The new place will be much easier. In my practice (a transactional practice that Kirkland has a large group doing), our local clients are funds and financial institutions, and there are way, way more of them around where Kirkland is going than where they were. Finally, clients do care about offices looking nice. Kirkland's old ones looked like shit.
The Aon Center is not in the Loop, either. I guess that I will concede that the office move is bad news for you if you are obsessed about never seeing rats. Will you STFU now?
Elie (et all)
Quit with the hating on DD.
99% of the people saying "DD is swill" have never tasted DD coffee, or if they have they drank is ten years ago and have never tasted it since.
How many more DD vs. Starbucks blind taste tests does DD have to CRUSH Starbucks in before you "cultured" snobs realize you don't even know what good coffee ought to taste like?
Furthermore, at least half of the "starbucks is better" crowd doesn't even DRINK coffee. They drink ridiculously over-sweet 1,000 calorie each Frappucinos that taste nothing like coffee.
Here's a hint. Come to Venezuela or Jamaica one time and don't stay in some crappy uber-resort. Go out into the country a ways, and have coffee, REAL COFFEE with real people who have been drinking it for 3000 years.
After you do, you will never have another cup of coffee that satisfies you as long as you live. But the closest you will ever come will be DD. I did, and I won't drink anything else.
All that foo-foo "french press" bullcrap isn't coffee. Heck, if you like that, you probably HATE real coffee. But you didn't want real coffee, you just wanted your sugar and cream fix, and drinking hot chocolate past the age of 12 looked silly, so you went to starbucks and suckled at the marketing teet instead.
51- The Aeon Building no longer the second tallest in Chicago. That title belongs to the Trump tower.
135 - Don't you think it's weird they named a whole building after Aeon Flux?
They bought cheap furniture for 300.
134, I am a coffee nerd, and I love the French Press. What is your damage?
Wow, I can't believe there are people in Venezuela and Jamaica who have been drinking coffee for 3000 years. Is it the coffee that allows them to live so long?
as i understand it, low and mid level floors are more desirable in river front buildings, while the high floors are more desirable in buildings on the loop outskirts near the lake. different sorts of views are relevant.
also, the new building is somewhat ugly, but i think its the fault of the non-reflective glass, necessary for all sorts of green certifications.
You're not fooling anyone, Mystal. Starbucks, DD, whole rotisserie chickens; you'd choke down anything that was put in front of you, and we all know it.
140 - Nope. High floors are necessary near the river. It provides protection against the rats, at least until the vermin discover how to work the window-washing apparatus.
134 - yeah you've completely discredited yourself by trolling so hard for Dunkin' Donuts and putting down French Presses.
This is a very weird shtick. I don't quite understand it, but you may be on to some next level shit here.
You're not fooling anyone, Mystal. Starbucks, DD, whole rotisserie chickens; you'd choke down anything that was put in front of you, and we all know it.
134 - you have no idea what a French Press is, do you? It's not a drink.
Intelligentsia, FTW.
I have to agree with 131, or "N. Wacker Stud." A loop location is simply more prestigious than a non loop location. K&E is now on "the other side of the river" any way you slice it. And yes, they used to be in the loop. The "lakeshore east" neighborhood never really existed until recent years with the rise of Millenium Park. While Standard Oil/Amoco/Aon might now also be encompassed by relatively new neighborhood designations, being south of the river and east of Lake Michigan it was always and will always be also in the loop. Furthermore, "the loop" for commercial purposes would never be defined by the narrow confines of the elevated tracks. While it might make sense to those whose familiarity with Chicago is confined to Google Maps, it makes no sense to anyone else.
DD really is shit - i once had one of those turbo iced coffee things and the next thing i knew, i was David Lat at one of his "speaking engagements." Starbucks is wayyy better but def not the best. Try coffee from a CLOVER machine and then you'll see what really good brew tastes like.
At starbucks, i do recommend getting Americanos as an alternative to their wishy washy drip. They're smoother and espresso is more gentle on a lawyer's stomach.
- The Lawyer Chef
147 you meant west of the lake (east of the lake is Michigan), but point taken.
147, you're delusional if you call anything east of Michigan a part of "the Loop." It's another quarter mile uphill to get to Aon, and there is absolutely nothing remotely close to it. Until you cross Michigan, of course.
I cannot believe there have been approx 150 posts mostly about the Chicago loop. Is there any subject matter too boring for lawyers to argue over?
I cannot believe there have been approx 150 posts mostly about the Chicago loop. Is there any subject matter too boring for lawyers to argue over?
151, 152 - To be fair, the post count is somewhat inflated due to idiots double-posting.
Not only does Cuban coffee taste better than either of the two, but it's also the cheapest by far. 60 cents for a shot, or enough to share with a few co-workers for $1.
The bad news is, you have to work in South Florida. It's the one thing that legal market has going for it.
147, I used Google Maps to point out that 117's thoughts about being closer to Metra stations were totally wrong except for the Millenium station, which was basically in the same building. Having lived IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO (not in the suburbs or in Wisconsin), since I was 4, I just knew that 300 N. Lasalle was closer, but I wanted to provide some hard evidence.
I don't really care if you think that " 'the loop' for commercial purposes would never be defined by the narrow confines of the elevated track." That's how it is. If you say "the Loop" when you mean the area around the Aon Center, people in the know think that you're a dumbass. Since that area has been developed in the last 10-20 years, it's always been called "The New East Side." (The signs went up 10 years ago or so.) You can also call it "North of Millenium Park." As much as that is lame douchebagrealtor-speak., it's more accurate than calling it the loop, unless you talking to someone who lives in Lombard and calls all of Chicago "downtown."
As for the Aon Center being more prestigious, that is flatly wrong, at least for Kirkland's space and what they can do with it. I work for a bunch of douchebag funds and banks impressed with that stuff, and when we have been to Kirkland for meetings they have been surprised that Kirkland is in such crappy offices. The wear and tear is evident and you can't do the telecom, power and cooling you need for top of the line office space in the Aon Center anymore. It looks like 1987 in there. So you really don't know what you are talking about. Are you also the fool who thinks that a french press is a kind of drink instead of a device?
da bears suck
DD is for truckers
Peet's is by far the best ... neither Starbucks nor DD are peer coffee establishments
I heard their old office was a dump. Shit, I saw that building being build from across the street......in my piece of shit office on the 8th floor.
One of these days the Midwest and East Coast will realize that Starbuck's or Donuts Coffee is not even close to Peete's Coffee. How's that weather Chicago? Its high 60's in sunny Northern California.
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Not good! Cheaped out on the deferral stipend.
Of course they're not on the top. How would the associates bill hours if they spent the whole day riding the elevators?
HEB coffee is hard to beat, particularly the Austin Blend.
Peete's sux
134 - completely SELFPWN3D
self-righteous douche that regurgitates some shit his hipster friend told him, uses oversimplified categories, and doesn't actually know anything about coffee. sounds right for the DD drinking crowd.
Starbucks sucks slightly less than the brown water served at Dunkin Donuts.
Real coffee, however, is much better.
my vote: "El Pico"
I hate when people pronounce "espresso" as "eXpresso"! There is no freaking "x" in "espresso."
Dunkin' Donuts is pure shit. Watch them put the sugar in some time. There is more sugar in one of there coffees then actual coffee, but i guess thats what it takes to make that crap drinkable. Blech.
More MWE bashing please.
People who like coffee don't drink Dunkin' Donuts unless they absolutely have to. Simple fact. If you take issue with this statement, you don't actually like coffee. Instead, you like some putrid blend of coffee-laced water, cream, and sugar that does not qualify as coffee.
That said, I prefer to make french press coffee at home to buying coffee anywhere.
also, Peet's is, in fact, the best of all commercial coffee purveyors. Suck one.
I worked at Starbucks 15 years ago. Starbucks was fairly new back then and not many people had tried it. We used to give out a lot of samples of the coffee, and it was funny to watch people sample it. NO ONE liked it the first time they tried it. The looks on their faces were so funny, like they'd just licked an ashtray.
However, as someone else pointed out, Starbucks' espresso is excellent and I highly recommend the Americanos (espresso and hot or iced water) instead of the drip coffee.
Here's a trick to save money in this economy: Order an iced americano with "lots of room" for cream. Then fill up your plastic cup with milk from the condiment bar. You just got an iced latte for half price.
Peer firms avoid all of the above-mentioned brands in favor of artisanal micro-roasters.
Shucks, Vinson & Elkins has an in-house full service Starbucks, Barristas and all. Go for the gold!
Shucks, Vinson & Elkins has an in-house full service Starbucks, Barristas and all. Go for the gold!
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159, we have Intelligentsia in Chicago. It entirely destroys Peet's. Temperature was low 60's and beautiful today. What's your point?