(Laid-Off) Lawyer of the Day: Hudson River Plane Crash Passenger Frank Scudere
Back in January and in March, we reported on staff attorney layoffs at Skadden Arps. Apparently, there was one staff attorney who had his job (temporarily) saved by the amazing luck of being on the downed plane that made an emergency landing on the Hudson River on January 15.
From MSNBC.com:
In seat 24B as US Airways Flight 1549 fell silently toward the Hudson River, attorney Frank Scudere did not know that his name was on the list of lawyers that his firm planned to lay off the next morning.
Listen up Law School Revuers, this story lends itself to some kind of truly creative take on Lost. We’d suggest the title Laid-off Lawst.
Scudere, 48, went from plane crash survivor to Biglaw laid-off refugee in a period of under three months:
The [morning after the crash], he was in his Times Square office at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, one of 2,000 attorneys employed at one of the largest corporate law firms in the world, when whispers went around about layoffs. An attorney he didn’t know called him and asked him to come down to a conference room. Before he went, he told another senior attorney, “Oh, man, this can’t be happening. I was on that plane yesterday.”At the meeting, he was told he had been on the list to be laid off, but because he had been on the plane, he wouldn’t be let go — at least “not today.”…
On March 26, a little more than two months after the US Airways drama, he was called down to the HR office and informed that his position was eliminated. “I was totally blindsided, because I had been told there would be no more layoffs,” he said.
Skadden may have hoped the delay would help it avoid getting media attention. That hope was in vain. This does not come as a surprise to us. We reported extensively on the elimination of the staff attorney program at Skadden. We just hadn’t realized a “celebrity” was among those for whom the bell tolled.
Scudere has some angry words for Skadden, after the jump.
Scudere is using his minor celebrity status to voice unhappiness with Skadden’s approach to layoffs:
Scudere recognizes that the law firm was under economic strain and appreciates that it paid him for more than eight weeks beyond his last day, plus $500 in exchange for signing the standard letter agreeing not to sue. Nevertheless, bitterness creeps in. He’d like the firm to know that there are more civil ways to lay off a person than cutting off his medical benefits immediately, and giving him three hours to gather his belongings before security escorts him out.“I don’t feel like I deserved special treatment. I just deserved to be treated civilly,” he said. “I’m a 48-year-old attorney and I’ve worked in Big Six accounting firms. I’ve been laid off before. I’ve laid people off before, but I’ve never treated people like that before. It’s bereft of any dignity.”
Keeping Scudere on for another two months of work after the plane crash suggests civility to us. But yes, hustling someone out within three hours of being laid off, is not awesome. Plus, they took away his Blackberry.
Skadden is getting all kinds of mainstream media attention these days. Last weekend, the New York Times wrote in amazement about the firm’s pro bono deferral program, and its sending Heather Eisenlord off to “teach English to monks in Sri Lanka and possibly help bring solar power to remote parts of the Himalayas.”
Unfortunately, Scudere didn’t have the option to go off and breastfeed African orphans on Skadden’s dime. Staff attorneys are not eligible for the Sidebar Program.
Lawyer survives Hudson River flight, loses job [MSNBC.com]
Earlier: Staff Layoff Watch: The Bell Tolls for Skadden Staff
Staff Layoff Watch: A Roundup




Comments
I heard about this already. Supposedly the guy was a dick anyway.
N. Wacker Stud
first
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202429977058
At least Skadden didn't layoff more than half the first year class in NY, and a third of the first year class in LA.
I'm looking at you Latham. Shame on you.
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202429977058
Frank Scudere does not deserve any media attention or focus. He should be grateful for surving the "Miracle" on the Hudson and by being on that plane his term of employment was extended by 2 more months. Mr. Scudere is not a green attorney. He has been around and knows how this business works. It really perturbs me to see this buffoon complain about his misfortune when others are suffering tenfold his fate. Mr. Scudere, you never complained before when you were in the position to fire other temp contract attorneys. Now you cry? Do yourself a favor and stay in South Carolina where your distasteful attire and demeanor will probably be better tolerated.
Wah wah. He didn't land the damned plane; he just had the misfortune (?) of being on it.
What is MSNBC's angle here? The only survivor of that crash that should have gained leverage over their job security as a result is Sully.
Isn't he a mob informant that is living in Scottsdale now?
@2 - You suck worse than a room full of Kirkland female associates and a male stripper.
$500 in exchange for giving up a lawsuit. Give me a break.
Frank, where is your shame? You took $500.00 to keep quiet, you were given an extra 9 weeks on the job and now you come out to the media and say you were "blindsided" by your termination? You have no honor. You should have been terminated before you even boarded that plane.
At least this wasn't a MISCARRIAGE of justice like at Paul Hastings.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Does anyone find partner emeritus funny and/or interesting? I think of all the lame avatars, his is by far the lamest.
I survived a crash landing on the Hudson and all I got was this lousy Skadden-asslobster.
PE ... Don't you have some final exams to be studying for?
PE, I wish you were dead.
14 -
yes. he is not funny
This is one of those terrific stories where every player in the cast looks like a total scumbag and moron.
This guy got a PR reprieve and should have been out looking for a different job a day after Skadden told him he might go in the future. His complaints now make him look like a whiny fool.
Skadden looks utterly ridiculous now, having given this guy an extra 90 days only to fire him the same week that their "pay associates to do bong hits for a year" program was the most e-mailed story on the NYT website. It doesn't take a Don Draper to figure out that they should have retained this chump for another three months to save on the media drubbing. Fire him up front, after the crash (like a gutsy player), or spin your PR game out to the end (like a smart but sleazy corporation), Skadden. Cripes.
The plane be sinking...
@13, I don't get it. Miscarriages at a Paul Hatsings are funny?
PAUL WEISS REMAINS!
21 -- http://abovethelaw.com/2008/05/paul_hastings_farewell_email_a.php
I wonder what Mr. Scudere's conjoined twin had to say about this firing? Did Skadden keep her around?
@24 - Skadden fed his conjoined twin to Elie.
Partner Emeritus is the only glimmer of good humor on this board of cry babies. If you thought your career was going to begin and end at a corporate law firm making six figures for doing bitch work your whole life, you're an idiot and should be thankful that you had the opportunity to make a good income for the few years before they canned you. You have to go out and make a living for yourself in this world. Stop hiding from reality.
I'm not sure why you are all ripping Scudere a new one here. He doesn't sound like he's whining about this.
It's an unfortunate situation for all involved, but I think all the parties seem to have handled it appropriately.
PE is pretty awesome.
26 = partner emeritus
PE is pretty awesome.
How old is this guy? He's a staff attorney?
He's been reviewing documents for 25 years now?
I wish the swift Paul Hastings hanger of justice would be used on PE. Suck it ya vagina faced old coot!
Skadden is considerably better than McDermott Will & Emery.
P.E. = Premature Ejaculation
"[There are more civil ways to lay off a person than cutting off his medical benefits immediately, and giving him three hours to gather his belongings before security escorts him out."
There are also less civil ways that many law firms prefer.
Also, he forgot that his layoff package included 3 months of paid work and job search time that none of the other staff attorneys got because they didn't get their feet wet.
18 - agree
14 - he is not funny and certainly not a partner, much less emeritus
I think his main complaint is that he was whisked out the door in 3 hours after being notified. That's a valid complaint.
PE - Nice of you to mention he has no honor but your omission of Skadden's dishonor (by informing him, no more layoffs would occur) tells me why your opinion carries no currency.
35: why does a staff attorney have medical benefits anyway? i thought they got nothing and liked it?
Professor Emeritus = CLS 2L Stud
24B? Eww -- middle seat in coach.
This comment is addressed only to post no.38. All other comments making reference to my earlier remarks merit no response except they show a collective compassion for someone who hid most of his legal career behind meaningless assignments. Perhaps you sympathize with Mr. Scudere because you find your legal career in a commode.
To 38. If you believe any HR proclamation that there will be no layoffs and that your job is secure in this recession, then you have diminished capacity to understand simple concepts such as employment at will and force majeure. Did the Easter Bunny leave you a basket of eggs?
PE was great when he started his rants but is now boring and repetitive as fuck. He is now well below the par in terms of the average level of the shticks posting here, and he should definitely move on prior to sinking faster and hitting bottom. You can only get funny so far with the same jokes.
13:
Do you think this guy is a stupid as Ms. Miscarriage? He has said a few slightly negative things about his former firm, but nothing close to what Ms. Miscarriage said. I would be willing to bet that Mr. Scudere gets a job before the Miscarriage whiner.
500 lol
Elie,
Is it true that nepotism saved a certain bar failer at a certain V10?
42: clearly your comment was NOT addressed only to Post No. 38, because you spend 45 words out of a 103-word post addressing everyone except 38.
Guys in my high school used to be "totally blindsided" upon learning that they are laid off, after they were already told they were on the list to be laid off, it was no big deal.
dear 20, nice wrinkle. well done.
What's worse, laying off this guy or laying off a new associate six week after they start and two weeks after his wife has a newborn baby. My firm did the latter.
Wait, what is this about nepotism and failed bar exams at a NY V10? I'm confused.
I DEMAND AN UPDATE OON THE 125 APPLICANTS TO THE SIDE BAR PROGRAM! WERE THEY APPROVED. DID SKADDEN LET 125 ASSOCIATES WALK OUT THE DOOR? GIVE US AN UPDATE!
I DEMAND AN UPDATE ON THE 125 APPLICANTS TO THE SIDE BAR PROGRAM! WERE THEY APPROVED. DID SKADDEN LET 125 ASSOCIATES WALK OUT THE DOOR? GIVE US AN UPDATE!
I fail to see how any of this is relevant to the discussion of how prestigious I am.
HOletariat
PE: it was once funny, but stopped being so a long time ago.
37,
Getting whisked out is how most other companies work in the real world - IT/software companies are infamous for locking people out even before they are laid off and if the guy really worked in the Big 6 he should know the drill.
he is a complete whiner.
Nepotism at the v10? Which one? Someone should investigate these nepotism/failed bar exam claims. If the firm isn't a meritocracy, it needs to own up to that.
ROD PAMPERS
I demand that people who make demands via an anonymous entry on a blog be shot.
I sternly disagree with the haters. Partner Emeritus is the only reason I continue to read this blog. If you don't like him it is because he makes you insecure.
This comment is addressed to post no. 47.
It took you 5 minutes to do a word count on a simple post? You clearly lack the criteria to be employed as a document reviewer at a peer firm.
Skadden
i have to agree with PE here...so what he was on a plan that crashed...who the fuck cares...he shouldn't have gotten an extra 2 months because of it
PE - So that is the best non response you can give to 38? You come across as a better shoe salesman than lawyer and probably a more successful one at that.
i have to agree with PE here...so what he was on a plan that crashed...who the f cares...he shouldn't have even received an extra 2 months because of it
Partner Emeritus makes me horny.
You guys disparaging Staff Attorneys are pretty stupid.
Where do you think associates end up after their 3-year shelf life expires? You won't all land cushy in-house or government jobs.
$135k+ for a 9-5 job is pretty good, especially if you're at a place that lets you do substantive work (briefs, motion practice, etc.).
31, we can only hope that one of those little NASA Mars rovers will find and release you, since you obviously live trapped under a rock up there.
What do you think happens to 40-something and 50-something in-house attorneys if they get laid off? They don't have a book of business, and most corporations prefer to fill any open positions with BigLaw 6th-year newbies. So most are unlikely ever to find another "real" job, and many wind up working contract. A relatively stable BigLaw staff attorney gig is a dream job for them.
A 50-something friend of mine in that position is currently in the hospital after nearly succeeding in a suicide attempt. I am not kidding. That's just how it is. After getting laid off a few years back, he could no longer find even $25/hour document review work and hasn't got a dime left to his name.
So all of you laid off junior associates ought to be thankful you’re at least young enough to get yourselves re-hired again, somewhere, when the economy picks up again.
As a REAL partner (i.e., one who brings in business), at a REAL firm, let me say that this PE character is a true buffoon. Hey PE, good luck spending all of your time attempting to deflate the aspirations of junior associates and law students. I will be making sure my dedicated team of junior partners, associates, etc. wrap up my three deals that are closing by Monday. You (or your character) can tell the readers of this site how doomed they are, while I am keeping MANY people busy and gainfully employed. I will be too busy to check back in here for the foreseeable future, so don't bother with one of your fraudulent responses. That is all.
careful 57, you don't want to "disparage" anyone.
Skadden has totally dicked over its staff attorneys. In my mind, its treatment of staff attorneys totally cancels out the above-market bonuses it paid to its associates. Skadden is no better than CravaTTTh.
68: i think we're on the same page. i was commenting on how sad it was.
at least he got benefits.
News flash, fellas: ALL law firms are TTT. You're all pissing away your lives, and for what? Money that you'll never have time to enjoy? Money that you'll end up paying in alimony when your neglected marriage crumbles?
Man, I sure am glad I went in-house.
PE: How does it feel to know that your wife has been fu*king other men, even probably some of your associates that you love to treat like sh*t, while you were at work late every night, and that your daughter(s) fu*k everything that walks to get back at you for being such an ass?
PE = DB
@70
Disparaging: –adjective that disparages; tending to belittle or bring reproach upon: disparaging remarks.
You have a problem with my word choice?
@73
I don't know about you, but I'm doing it so I can afford a nanny and school for my kid.
I don't know how people make it in NY without a 6 figure income, and apart from law, finance and accounting, I don't see a lot of obvious ways to make that kind of money.
Am I gay?
I must come to the defense of my colleague and good friend Partner Emeritus. This man is truely a staple of the legal profession. His opinion carries weight well beyond the bounds of the legal world as well. When we were youths, we used to ride the train back home to Greenbrier County together. We played golf and tennis, rode horses, and generally made fun of the paupers who served us. Ahh, the good ole' days....
With regards to this pauper who was firm for his poor performance at Skadden Arps, he should quit crying and bow up. Back in my day we were thankful to have a job whether it be mining coal or lynching African Americans. The prudent move would have been to terminate his employment the day following the plane crash. A decision like that from a prestigious powerhouse like Skadden would have been respected rather than criticized, especially after one sets eyes upon this white negro.
13 - making fun of miscarriages (or people who suffer them) is never funny, even in your self-centered, it's-all-about-me world.
I hear BLS students make some good money stripping on camera.
41 - not only is 24B a middle seat in couch, it's in the 3rd to last row of the plane near the restroom.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/US_Airways/US_Airways_Airbus_A320.php
41 - not only is 24B a middle seat in coach, it's in the 3rd to last row of the plane near the restroom.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/US_Airways/US_Airways_Airbus_A320.php
13 - making fun of miscarriages (or people who suffer them) is never funny, even in your self-centered, it's-all-about-me world.
82: the fact that you looked that up made me lol
72,
Alas, my 50-something friend did not have benefits. Contract attorneys don't. He had been paying for medical insurance out of pocket, but he couldn't afford it any longer. The last I heard, he was trying to get Medicaid, but I don't know whether that was in place when he tried to kill himself. So I have no idea how he will pay for his hospital bills, and I am afraid he will simply try again after he gets out.
The entire system really sucks.
--68
I think that the "Emeritus" banter has taken a turn towards the highly offensive (see #79). These comments should be removed immediately and the commenters banned.
I feel bad for this guy - the plane crash, the loss of his father, the job loss. It' a tough story. I admire his positive attitude and that he has his wife and kids. In fact, his wife is a very pretty woman.
The only thing I don't get is who and why commutes between NYC and South Carolina? I've never heard of any attorney at any level doing this. Please explain.
- 87. Lighten up Francis.
This comment is addressed to the editors of this blog.
I disavow any association with the poster known as "Senator Emeritus." I neither know who this person is nor do I subscribe to his racist views. Please remove his highly offensive post at once.
Don't be such a wooos PE. I have lost all respect for you.
I appreciate Senator Emeritus' subtle humor and mocking of Robert Byrd.
Hey Kash,
Of all the coverage given to Biglaw layoffs on ATL this is the first reference I've seen to the term "Biglaw laid-off refugee" used in the actual article. Gee, how did you come up with that term, uh? Did it come to ya all-of-a-sudden-like last night while sipping on your $13 bottle of pinot grigio? You had some epiphany, did ya, sweetie? Or have you been surreptitiously trolling posted comments on ATL for some panacea to your perpetual writer's block? I've seen the "refugee" reference used in guest comments but never in the storylines. You should footnote your references, sweetheart. Just a thought. have a lovely day, dear.
Whenever I see the PE avatar I just skip over the trite repetitive banter masquerading as intellectualism, pseudo, at best.
I maintain that PE is either a 2L who should be focusing on being in top 1% of this 4th tier school, or is a first year associate in some comfy litigation group.
In either case, he's a stupid clown, as evidenced by the fact that he's been called out on a number of things for which he professes wisdom in, but in fact has no clue on.
Whenever I see the PE avatar I just skip over the trite repetitive banter masquerading as intellectualism, pseudo, at best.
I maintain that PE is either a 2L who should be focusing on being in top 1% of this 4th tier school, or is a first year associate in some comfy litigation group.
In either case, he's a stupid clown, as evidenced by the fact that he's been called out on a number of things for which he professes wisdom in, but in fact has no clue on.
"Still, he said, he has to thank Capt. Chesley B. Sullenberger III and his crew for giving him more time at the law firm. "
I wonder if the fired staff attorney might be able to bring a reliance (ie, promissory estoppel) action against Skadden. Did he rely on the promised funds? If so, he might be able to use Restatement 90 to prove that Skadden breached here.
He got a freaking pass for surviving the plane dropping out the dayum sky but did this IDIOT really believe that weren't going to lay him off? STUPID AZZ should been on the phone with ALL of his contacts and floating that resume the day they told him he was getting a reprieve. And for anbody who believes ANY emlployer cares that your wife just had a baby, or you were just hired and should be spared a layoff WAKE THE HELL UP unless you have an IRON CLAD contract last time I checked NY is an "at will" state when it comes to employment your boss could decided that he just doesn't want to look at you anymore no matter how good your work is and guess what you are OUT unless of course you can PROVE discrimination of some kind, get injured on the job or some other MIRACLE. Some you entitled folks are working my nerves with how much you are worth after law school there is no FIRST YEAR worth more than 85,000-100,000 I DON"T CARE HOW MUCH DEBT, WHAT SCHOOL YOU WENT TO, LAW REVIEW, ORDER OF COIF WHATEVA YOU ARE A FIRST YEAR YOU AIN"T WORTH $165,000 PERIOD end of rant. Nobody twisted your arm to choose law as a profession knowing lawyers are a dime a dozen. Hell yeah NY is expensive as hell AGAIN ITS A CHOICE and you made it to (1) live/work here and (2) take the biglaw offer, now you crying about the long hours, no respect yada yada. But yet you charge three meals a day to the client, take car service and taxis (god forbid you use public transportation and absolutely positively MUST LIVE IN MIDTOWN so yeah you entitled byatches need six figures to live like this and if you don't make that DEAL WITH IT FOR FOR CHRIST SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY or quit your biglaw BEFORE they lay your azz off and move the hell out of high priced NY and hang out your own shingle!
He got a freaking pass for surviving the plane dropping out the dayum sky but did this IDIOT really believe that weren't going to lay him off? STUPID AZZ should been on the phone with ALL of his contacts and floating that resume the day they told him he was getting a reprieve. And for anbody who believes ANY emlployer cares that your wife just had a baby, or you were just hired and should be spared a layoff WAKE THE HELL UP unless you have an IRON CLAD contract last time I checked NY is an "at will" state when it comes to employment your boss could decided that he just doesn't want to look at you anymore no matter how good your work is and guess what you are OUT unless of course you can PROVE discrimination of some kind, get injured on the job or some other MIRACLE. Some you entitled folks are working my nerves with how much you are worth after law school there is no FIRST YEAR worth more than 85,000-100,000 I DON"T CARE HOW MUCH DEBT, WHAT SCHOOL YOU WENT TO, LAW REVIEW, ORDER OF COIF WHATEVA YOU ARE A FIRST YEAR YOU AIN"T WORTH $165,000 PERIOD end of rant. Nobody twisted your arm to choose law as a profession knowing lawyers are a dime a dozen. Hell yeah NY is expensive as hell AGAIN ITS A CHOICE and you made it to (1) live/work here and (2) take the biglaw offer, now you crying about the long hours, no respect yada yada. But yet you charge three meals a day to the client, take car service and taxis (god forbid you use public transportation and absolutely positively MUST LIVE IN MIDTOWN so yeah you entitled byatches need six figures to live like this and if you don't make that DEAL WITH IT FOR FOR CHRIST SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY or quit your biglaw BEFORE they lay your azz off and move the hell out of high priced NY and hang out your own shingle!
Here is the latest addition to the LawSpeak-English translation dictionary:
There will be no more layoffs--we will be making more cuts, probably including you, within the next two to four weeks
Your position is safe--you will be laid off within the month
Regardless of what happens, your job is safe--start packing now, you will be laid off within the week
We need to consider the possibility of [insert phrase here]--there will be layoffs coming soon
Me, 40-ish, thinks he is hot and would hit that hard.
93 must have some psychological/social issues.
98,99: Go back to doing your secretarial work. Nobody cares what you think. You have no idea what being a lawyer is all about, nor about the sacrifices people went through to get their JD, and you certainly know nothing about hanging your own shingle. When we need something from you, we will leave a post-it note on your desk.
Dear Mr. Pictured Stonefaced Emeritus J.O. :
I realize the legal world manipulates definitions of words to fit their own agenda..and frankly who doesn't periodically? My point is to the critic of Frank Scudere, "where is it, implied or expressed that this guy is crying about his circumstances. As a matter of fact I interpret that he's doing just the opposite. I'd say he had a hell of a time and is just dealing with it. And I wonder, for about 1 second how YOU, the person that presents himself as some self important, better than Frank Scudere would handle such a situation. My guess, snivel like a bitch. And you know something, I would understand. But to criticize him for being a baby is not what the "normal" person would read into his story. Do you know Mr. Scudere personally? Who would not be upset about being let go? He's a human being. This is an article about a circumstance that you have no idea, nor I, what it feels like to crash in a plane, then lose a great job..., but where we differ is with empathy. You have zero...which perhaps makes you even more successful financially, I suppose. But B.F.D., you don't look happy in your photo, you look unhappy with your panties in a bunch.. you stuffy prick. I bet your golf game sucks ass too... And if I had to guess, which I will, your happiness comes from a bank account. And still you look like the biggest asshole? The only person that cares about your H. Freeman suits is you....Come on old fart, have some compassion for one man's setback. Your critical writing about a guy that just wants to provide for a young family and now deals with shitty hand dealt to him, well you come along and bash him for sniveling. You'd be the first MF'er to push aside women and children on that terrible accident to self preserve before anyone else...I am just speaking your language, Emeridicktus. Just doing to you what you did to him: forming an opinion in critical words of another person I don't know other than my interpretation a single piece of written words.
Lastly, no doubt you're successful representing your clients. You look successful, although you're not a handsome man, like Frank Scudere. Subsequently that could be the drive for your success and that's fine. You should be a lot less critical of others in a circumstance you have no idea what it's like. You should hire this guy, dipshit. If for no other reason , but to add to your trophy case...but not to be cased next to your bimbo girlfriends that if you had no success would not find you interesting at all...Shit, now I am becoming a prick like you...but maybe you read this and hopefully reflect on your critical words of a man, that happened to experience something we have no idea nor want to know what it is like to go through.
You're such a dickhead to bash a guy like Frank Scudere...I'll pray for you Emeritus that you stop being a dick to others.
103 if ya didn't care you wouldn't have responded. You dont' know me so you you HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I KNOW. Whatever sacrifices you made to get your JD AGAIN NOBODY FORCED YOU IT WAS A CHOICE THAT YOU MADE. You are obviously one of the entitled whiny azz byatches that I refer to that think you shyt don't stink cause you made such great sacrifices to get your JD. AGAIN no 1st year is worth 165,000 which is why most of you are getting wiped the phuck out in these massive layoffs and guess what? I STILL HAVE MY JOB, praise the Lord and Hallelelujah. You go back to looking for a job or better yet studying cause ya azz is probably still in lawschool and "have no idea what being a lawyer is all about or about hanging your shingle. I will be able to make a living long after the last lawyer is laidoff. Oh and just so you know I HAVE MY J.D., Howard University 1984.
Hey 101:
A. Hope you're a female
B. You ought to hit hard the PE pictured old fart.
C. I don't care if you're F or M regarding B.
#28
PE doesn't respect brown nosers, people that express their feelings from setbacks, public defenders, para legals, online law school courses and others' ideas that differ from his own. He's not awesome. My boy, Joe Dirt teach him a few things about real life.
# 28, your comment "he's awesome" is like searching for a higher deck on the Titanic.
101 here (and very female). Thanks, 106 but PE is not my type. I like them a bit rough around the edges. I would hit Scudere hard and Captain Sully Whateverberger even harder. Both have hot wives despite mediocre incomes so they're probably a good time.
Okay, maybe I wouldn't hit Sully.
105: It's nobody's fault but your own that you couldn't get into/make it in Biglaw. If it makes you feel better to berate people who have lost their jobs, that's on you. I am glad for you that you were able to find a job outside of the practice of law. It assures that none of us will ever have to deal with you as a colleague. Now STOP SHOUTING and go back to pretending you enjoy your life.
Hello 108...106 here...How about a stockbroker 40ish? I am divorced...but if I am more attractive not divorced I will lie..hahaha. Whateverberger? That's funny...you have wit...and probably income, maybe more than mine...but money is stupid.....I know I am piqueing your interest....and today, my hands are still rough from plowing my horse pasture as my real passion isn;t my great office and wearing a stupid monkey suit, but working with my hands in a t shirt and jeans...So how do you like me so far? hahaha
Your choice of words give me more than a chuckle.
This comment is addressed to Partner Emeritus:
You postings today seem to confirm the fact that Skadden is a peer firm. Is this a proper inference from your comments, and if so were they one prior to the 2008 bonus season?
skadden is all class
Like other large law firms, Skadden is a relic of the past. It will likely be shut doen in 10 years. The model of these mega law firms with large pay does not work for this era. Firms like Skadden will be obsolete soon.
Like other large law firms, Skadden is a relic of the past. It will likely be shut doen in 10 years. The model of these mega law firms with large pay does not work for this era. Firms like Skadden will be obsolete soon.
108: 101 here, i was joking. i'm really a dude
Um....I'm 108 and 101. I don't know what your deal is 115, but off my corner ho.
Atta girl 108 101....I knew we have something going. You tell that imposter ho to gtfo. So when hare you coming to CA?
105 makes me laugh. What a pathetic, worthless soul. I'm with 103. Go back to that outhouse you clean for a living.
79, f@&$ off
My friends in the litigation department at Skadden told me that this Frank Scudere guy was a complete jerk. The fact that they all felt very strongly about it kind of shocked me.
Still despite his bad reputation I feel really badly he is starting over at his age. That must be tough. But with his experience he should be able to latch on to a small law firm down south that needs an extra body.
Maybe it will be a blessing in disguise cause he'll spend more time with his family!!!
120: sounds like heresay, but dont' worry about him.
He'll be fine, in fact he told me he's already moved on to something else. He never said anything negative to me or the press for that matter, about the litigation group, the lawyers or the firm. HR issue, only. In fact, he told me that he had many friends at the firm, worked closely with the associates- admired and felt privileged to be working there- among so many smart attorneys. So, him being a "complete jerk" means nothing and is an ad hominem comment. You never met him. And I doubt anyone would have said that when he was there. People don't know what to say sometimes, even lawyers. You sound young but are probably very smart too. Smart is a good thing and lawyering can be great, but as Edmund Burke said : "manners are more important than laws". He has good references and a worthy reputation including accolades from over 100 contract lawyers he really cared about. He respected them as much as the partners he rarely spoke with. He told me : "People first, the work always gets done:" His life is taking him beyond law and Skadden was "one great firm" he worked for. And he gave Skadden much in return. But he takes them where he goes now.
121: that is all fine and good but there has to be something more than a little off about him if he agreed to be interviewed by msnbc and ended up with a picture of himself on the cover of their website
most people would recognize that is not a good career move when it is going to show up front and center anytime anyone googles him for the rest of his life
i thought he might have expected him to land a job someplace
in any event his job skills seem highly marketable to me
121: that is all fine and good but there has to be something more than a little off about him if he agreed to be interviewed by msnbc and ended up with a picture of himself on the cover of their website
most people would recognize that is not a good career move when it is going to show up front and center anytime anyone googles him for the rest of his life
i thought he might have expected him to land a job someplace
in any event his job skills seem highly marketable to me
I am truly saddened by the complete lack of empathy shown by many of the comments made here. It's amazing to me how heartless some of you can be; this guy survives a plane crash, loses his father two days later and then loses his job and you have no understanding of how this must feel?
Please people, I hope to G-D that nothing bad happens to any of you but I certainly hope if things go wrong for any of you that you get a little more support than you have shown this man.
I would think this country would be more cohesive in times like this but it's truly disheartening to see the rhetoric here.
Re. 124: On behalf of everyone here, my apologies Mr. Scudere.