Lawyers Losing at Love: Bounced from The Bachelorette, Cut from The Cougar
Lawyers tend to do well on reality TV shows. Siblings Victor and Tammy Jih, both California lawyers, just won a million dollars on The Amazing Race. Back in 2006, another Asian attorney, Yul Kwon, snagged a seven-figure prize on Survivor: Cook Islands.
(By the way, May is Asian/Pacific American Heritage Month. Yay Asians! Two of your ATL editors, yours truly and Elie Ying Mystal, are Asian American.)
Not surprisingly, lawyers tend to excel on reality TV shows involving skill and strategy. Alas, fluency in legalese might not be helpful when you’re trying to speak the language of love. From a tipster:
No story on the lawyer on the season premiere of The Bachelorette? The guy was a total douche, but he redeemed himself with his closing line. As he had just failed to make the first cut of guys that the Bachelorette was interested in, he told the camera, “Maybe she’s just not into awesome guys.”
Another reader wrote, about eliminated contestant Stephen (above right; he looks a bit like Bob Saget):
This guy is 30, apparently just graduated law school, is a lawyer in NYC, and when he got kicked off the show said that the B’ette didn’t understand what happens in cities, prefers hicks, etc. He was utterly douchey…. If you were to do a post, I’m sure you’d find out more about this dude…
If you know more about New York lawyer Stephen, feel free to share in the comments. It looks like he won’t be threatening the record of Texas lawyer Jeremy Anderson, who currently holds the title of the longest-lasting attorney contestant on The Bachelorette.
Commentary on The Cougar, after the jump.
Stephen isn’t the only legal eagle crashing earthward on the wings of love. Last month, a 22-year-old law student from Boston University was cut from The Cougar.
One commentator described Jim as “the bowlegged asshole who was stupid enough to talk smack about how old [The Cougar’s] friends are.” Also eliminated was J.D., who does not appear to have one — he’s a retirement account manager, not a lawyer.
Speaking of cougars, how about placing one on the Supreme Court? The Pasadena Star-News contacted us earlier this month for comment on the candidacy of Judge Kim McLane Wardlaw, the Ninth Circuit jurist who is part Mexican-American. Our comment didn’t make it into the article, but we wrote the reporter an email:
Judge Wardlaw is rich, blonde, and beautiful. She lives in a palatial mansion, drives a Jaguar, and has chambers straight out of Architectural Digest. Other Ninth Circuit judges have schoolboy crushes on her.If nominated and confirmed, Kim Wardlaw would be the most glamorous jurist ever to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court. If anyone can salvage the fabulosity-deprived seat once held by the downright dowdy David Souter, Justice Wardlaw can.
Judge Wardlaw, sadly, is married. But it would be great to have a lawyer or judge as the next protagonist of The Cougar. The world is full of older Biglaw babes who would be worthy objections of affection for younger men.
Stephen [The Bachelorette]
The Cougar - Episode 2: The Saddest 40th Birthday Party Ever [40 Whatever]
Pasadena judge possibly considered for Supreme Court [Pasadena Star-News]




Comments
first?
I do not even watch this type of TV, but I found myself reading the whole article. Then I quickly realized, "Oh, David wrote it."
???
The "she must not be into awesome" was, well, awesome.
And his introduction was hilarious, too. Wish Stephen had been kept around for a few more episodes.
elie mysTTTal
My first first . . . I'd like to thank the academy, frat guy and long lost Loyola 2L.
This post is racist. Please remove it.
I am OFFICIALLY declaring June "White People Month."
We will celebrate everything that has ever been invented... other than gunpowder which is part of this month's celebration.
At least that's what my grade school teachers taught me.
Disagree that the attorney was douchey. That body builder guy = definition of a douche. And the guy with the foot fetish = definition of creepy. Attorney came off witty but uncomfortable with the whole thing.
Steve, was great... by far the best one on the show. loved his first line, telling her that he will save her a drink.
guess she will end up being a loser with no man... she really is a fool who already got dropped on national tv and cried about it...
sorry she just is a dumb girl with no future.
Nice shirt. What label?
Nice shirt. What label?
Answer: Target... pronounced "Tar-zhay" (tɑrˈʒeɪ)
I hate to admit I watched the show. She was actually quite charming and witty. Steve was DEFINITELY a douchebag, that was clear. Without a doubt the cocky-for-no-reason gunner in law school that everyone loved to hate. Too bad there wasn't more time for the douchery to come out.
My favorite asian lawyer in V Monkey.
Maybe we can start an ATW petition to give him his own show.
And we should find one for Mystal. It can be a live action remake of Fat Albert.
HHeeyyy, heeyy, heyy!
Damn. I wanted to see the QE comments get to 500. I actually read all 497 comments.
Too bad for the d-bag attorney; I would have acted with grace and class had it been Tila Tequila.
ahhhh! what happened to the QE thread?
Don't think Stephen was a douche at all... nothing wrong with trying to be funny and not gushing all over about a chick you've just met for 10 seconds. And the last line... come on, that was awesome!
i went to school with steve - he was a nice guy and not douchey.
6,
What no Dune guy?!
May the Face Dancers find you and do a curettement of your internal organs while dancing daintily in the pale moonlight on the desert in Arrakis all the while stringing your internal organs all over the place.
20 - Give it up Steve
This guy seemed cooler than the rest of the guys on the show. He was clearly making a joke when he said that she "wasn't into awesome guys."
I'll take them. I am a single female attorney that likes nice dinners, picnics on the beach, barbecues, traveling to exotic destinations with fancy cuisines and of course quiet evenings at home watching a movie with some popcorn and soda, and a candy bar and fried chicken, ribs, chicken and steak.
Repeating from comment thread last week:
for those who care, i can confirm that PE is a 1L (soon to be 2L) classmate of mine. we attend a non-T50 school on the east coast. he has become a bit of a mini-celebrity here with his postings, most of which are done during classes. it is common knowledge here that he has been doing this, and the attention has only egged him on. i am surprised that no one here has "outed" him yet. i feel compelled to write this now that he no longer is in my section (and hopefully in any of my future classes). in addition, i think that his postings have become increasingly tasteless and unfunny. he also is a know-it-all jerk who thinks that he is a superstar. anyway, just thought that i would share.
--anonymous
It doesn't say much for the judiciary in the looks department if Judge Wardlaw is the best there is.
Yay, happy APA month guys!
Elie's part Asian? In that case, he was completely qualified for Harvard Law.
PS after seeing pictures of Elie on FB, I will not make fun of him anymore... dude's like 6'3 250
Few things signal impending lameness more clearly than starting a comment with "repeating from comment thread last week"
Also on the list are "not to sound _____ but...", "First!" and "promissory estoppel."
25 - He's been outed as a 1L numerous times. But thanks for the confirmation. Also, please do share the name of the school so we can make fun of how pathetic it is.
Since most girl lawyers are ugly as a post or got hit by an ugly stick, you hardly can blame the guy for seeking love and companionship on a TV show.
Elie is Asian? What? Is that supposed to be a joke? It didn't come across as one. Somebody please explain what exactly that means.
1. Steve is awesome
2. Not a law school gunner - more like law school stud
3. If you think he came across as douchey, you're subconsciously afraid of standing in a room with him because you know that deep down, he would make you feel more inadequate in general than you already do - and no one like to be threatened, right? Especially anonymous nerds who bring out their inner tough guys on a blog for lawyers - need i say more?
4. The girl is clearly a black out 7 (on a really good binge) country dink from the backwoods of the Canadian wilderness who, based on her preferences, is attracted to guys she thinks are more like her - dumb and useless (although watch that ass explode within 3 years and never go back)
5. Concession: Steve was out of his league based on #4 - If he wanted to win this competition, he should have competed by standing around and saying hokey shit while flexing his pecs (his calves are like softballs... made of rock). But, he didn't.
6. Even though he lost, his speech at the end was epic and will live within the pages of human history for the rest of days
7. How is everyone's butt today?
I actually attended Law School with Stephen. He is a consumate gentleman and an intelligent attorney. It is a shame he did not advance further on the bachlorette, but I have absolutely no doubt that he will make extraordinary contributions to the New York legal community.
PE is hilarious - his comments send shivers up my toupe
Lat, as always your taste in women is so so sad.
Kim McLane Wardlaw:
http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/2008_fall/around_campus/images/around_campus_10.jpg
Even with the other two to provide contrast, not appetizing.
The QE guy was fired.
There once was a fatty named Elie,
Who had a tremendous black belly.
With every typo he made,
He kept getting paid,
And then bought lots of doughnuts with jelly.
There once was a homo named Lat,
Who also was terribly fat.
With every commenter he blocked,
He imagined their cocks,
And their balls on his forehead, like a hat.
- FREDERICK B. LIMERICK
(ORIGINAL LIMERICK INNOVATOR, PRIOR TO ALL COPYCATS LIKE "ABOVE THE LIMERICK" ETC.)
Quinn RemainED
Elie's part Asian? I didn't know that. I'd believe that he ate an Asian but that's about it...
The guy was a tool. Period
He may have made it passed the first round if he had actually spoken to the girl instead of being a wallflower.
He's a Wallflower? Did anyone see them tour with Sheryl Crow? They were a real smash! That Jakob Dylan really gets my juices flowing.
any attorney working on the cougar should be shot, what a worthless ridiculous show, no wonder kids are getting dumber and dumber
http://www.myvarefinance.net/index.html
Phillipinos are "Asian" only in the US. Although the Japanese treated Phillipinos during occupation far better than did Americans, Japanese would never have considered Phillipinos as Japanese subjects.
i know someone who wants to date this guy like woh (and she's smokin' hot)...what is his full name?
it's Stephen Scrumplestiltskin Flaggelloonotchcats VII
Hope that helped, 46, you smeritlyn ghretyk!
I know Steve and he's the nicest dude in the world. Douchey doesn't even go in the same sentence with this guy. He was just being a clown and it was funny. The only douches here are the people who didn't get it.
I would love to date Stephen, I hope he checks this and leaves his contact information. He was totally hot and much more clever and witty than the D-bags she kept.
46/49 - You're an idiot. Please shut up.
lulz.... Steve is the author of 23 out of the 51 comments here.
Does anyone know if Stephen ever lived in Chicago? I think I hooked up with him in Vegas. HAH!
52 - I think I hooked up with you in Vegas....
the glowing recommendations are all clearly steve-o.
in 33 he gives himself away. The steve doth protest too much, methinks.
His initial profile was douchey, like when he said "I'm a catch because I'm a practicing attorney." Big freaking deal.
But then he got cooler as it went on.
Well done 38, but you forgot someone.
There once was a journalist named Kash,
Who allegedly had a lobster in her ass.
She wrote better than Elie,
And was considerably less smelly,
Even when she couldn't help but pass gas.
(The previous version was funnier, but it angered the censorship gods).
I guess no one wanted to point out how two strains of racist thinking are changing the way the ATL audience views Elie. I'm sure everyone is thinking the same thing, including myself. It's funny and sad.
My first thought about Steve was, oh, a first year attorney. Probably deferred and a ton of debt to pay off. Not a good catch.
Evidently even today, Jewish males are weirdly compelled to prove their sex appeal to peasant (non-Jewish blue-collar) females. The pathetic display reminds one of German Town Laws and other laws going back 2000 years.
33=stevey sucky school
I can say that Steve is a douche. He is also an actor prior to school. Which should clear-up any concern about how he is 30 and just getting out of school. I went to law school with him and can tell you that he reeks of desperation. He has been in the NY post trying to find love. That went so well, the girl called her friends and hung-out with them the whole night.
On our first day of law school he was hitting on anything that moved. He is so full of himself, he even attended a viewing party at a local bar here in NYC. Knowing full well and good that he was not making past the first show. The sad thing is that I was taking bets on how long he would last and no one would go higher that 3 episodes. We all knew his d-baggedness would emerge before then. Seems it came out well before the end of episode one.
where did he go to law school and where is he working?
61 - how bad did steve really make you feel about yourself? c'mon tell us - were his grades better than yours? (probably). is he better looking than you? (most likely). do you have any balls? (no). does steve? (clearly)
we closely watch others we envy - as you clearly have - tracking things he's done, watching and spending time thinking about his failures while putting them out on ATL to compensate for your own, and hypocritically calling him a douchebag when he's probably only treated you well in your interactions.
but i guess the good news is that you're saving money on therapy and hopefully you don't have some "hit" list filled with people who have made you feel sorry for yourself.
61 - how bad did steve really make you feel about yourself? c'mon tell us - were his grades better than yours? (probably). is he better looking than you? (most likely). do you have any balls? (no). does steve? (clearly)
we closely watch others we envy - as you clearly have - tracking things he's done, watching and spending time thinking about his failures while putting them out on ATL to compensate for your own, and hypocritically calling him a douchebag when he's probably only treated you well in your interactions.
but i guess the good news is that you're saving money on therapy and hopefully you don't have some "hit" list filled with people who have made you feel sorry for yourself.
- Not Steve - he doesn't even read these comments because he's too busy being awesome
*affirmanod*
Ok, in light of the fact that no one will fess up to where Steve went to law school or where he works, it is safe to assume that he went to a crappy school, has crappy credentials and has no job, thus proving that he IS A LOSER and not a good candidate for marriage.
I'm fairly certain Steven Reich (there ya go, his full name) graduated in 2008 from New York Law School, He did act prior to law school. Last I knew, he had previously been a part of the wonderful Bloomberg/Robert Half temp gig but that was short lived and he was done there sometime around January?
Stephen was HIDEOUS and he should have been on the show "Average Joe" instead of "The Bachelorette".
His nose was way too big for the rest of his face, and his arrogant obnoxious pompous attitude (i.e. "I'm not 'country' enough for her", "Maybe she doesn't like 'awesome' guys") didn't make him any less physically unattractive.
He's the ugliest guy I've ever seen on the show, and I just knew IMMEDIATELY on first sight that he would get the boot on the premiere episode. He looks like he has bad breath, and I wouldn't be surprised if he has B.O. too
Hey 66, thanks. Boy, did she ever dodge a bullet.
Ladies, if someone tells you he is a lawyer, you have to ask where did you go to school, where do you work, how much debt do you have?