Staff Layoff Watch: General Motors Won’t Save Weil Staff
Working at a firm that gets high profile work doesn’t make you immune to the ravages of the tanking economy. Above the Law can now confirm that Weil Gotshal has laid off 79 staffers. We received the following statement from a Weil spokesperson:
Effective today, the Firm has eliminated 79 administrative positions across its US offices. The decision to undertake this action has been an extremely difficult one; the fact that many peer law firms were forced to make similar moves is of little consolation. In taking these steps, we have made every possible effort to be fair-minded and those who are affected have received severance packages that provide transitional income and benefits, with access to a range of services that include healthcare and career guidance. We believe the package we have designed to assist those whose positions have been eliminated more than meets industry norms.
For those keeping score at home, this means that Weil believes it is perfectly able to handle the mega-bankruptcy work it is involved in without the benefit of extra staffers — or a fresh class of incoming associates.
If staff isn’t safe at Weil, are they safe anywhere?
The Weil statement goes on to cite cost concerns from its clients as the reason for the layoffs:
The buyers of legal services - many of whom are experiencing declining markets or even financial distress - are demanding that their service providers produce the most cost-efficient product possible. We have to be cognizant of this industry-wide expectation and plan accordingly.
Have Weil staffers been crushed under the wheel of economic efficiency? Congratulations to the survivors. Good luck to those that have been let go. Luckily, tomorrow is Saturday. Nobody gets laid off on Saturday.
Read the full statement after the jump.
WEIL GOTSHAL & MANGES — STATEMENT — STAFF LAYOFFS
Effective today, the Firm has eliminated 79 administrative positions across its US offices. The decision to undertake this action has been an extremely difficult one; the fact that many peer law firms were forced to make similar moves is of little consolation. In taking these steps, we have made every possible effort to be fair-minded and those who are affected have received severance packages that provide transitional income and benefits, with access to a range of services that include healthcare and career guidance. We believe the package we have designed to assist those whose positions have been eliminated more than meets industry norms.
The Firm’s management genuinely regrets the need for this action, but has determined that it is vital to our continued efforts to increase the efficiency and competitiveness of our organization in a rapidly evolving business climate. Given the current economic landscape, our Firm, like all organizations faced with the challenges of a changing marketplace for our services, must do more with less. Notwithstanding the balanced nature of our practice, we are not immune to the larger long-term forces shaping the industry or the economy at large. The buyers of legal services - many of whom are experiencing declining markets or even financial distress - are demanding that their service providers produce the most cost-efficient product possible. We have to be cognizant of this industry-wide expectation and plan accordingly. The steps we have taken today, while distressing, are consistent with meeting that need. We are not planning any additional reductions in administrative positions in the US at this time.
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I would rather ride a sandworm without maker hooks instead of being a Weil staff attorney forced to buy GM cars to keep their jobs.
who wrote this?
wait, what, nobody gets laid off on a Saturday?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Excuse me while I take a breath....
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
So much for Biglaw.
Elie MysTTTal is due for a fifth donut.
what peer firm has done this?
$2 Trillion in debt issued by the U.S. this year, and guess who is buying it. The federal reserve, with money that it is printing...It will cost $500 to buy a loaf of bread in a few years. YES WE CAN. CHANGE. HOPE. SOCIALISM YOU CAN BELIEVE IN.
$2 Trillion in debt issued by the U.S. this year, and guess who is buying it. The federal reserve, with money that it is printing...It will cost $500 to buy a loaf of bread in a few years. YES WE CAN. CHANGE. HOPE. SOCIALISM YOU CAN BELIEVE IN.
what peer firm has done this?
Squisha squisha!
You know what gets my staff going? The hottest female lawyer in South Carolina competition:
http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/13/carolinas-hottest-lawyer-competition/
On second thought, that makes it clear why "lawyer hot" is a disclaimer.
As tough as it is for those who were let go, this is obviously smart expense management on Weil's part. They clearly learned something from their bankrupt clients!
Haven't heard from the Thompson Hine Rogue Associate in a while. Wonder if he got caught out? If so, I'll miss him.
:sadnana:
Its tough times for all of us. For those of us that have job. We thank god and for those that dont we are pulling for you.
What this thread needs is more cowbell.
:sadbanana:
I told you Weil was about to do layoffs in that puppy post. Get ready for associate layoffs next!
If GM made cars like the Coyote X from Hardcastle and McCormick, they would be bailing the government out, instead of the government bailing them out.
10 - i love it. Plus I guarantee no women read this blog, so we wouldn't have to worry about offending anyone...if you care about that kind of stuff (i dont)
I'm a former Latham 2nd Year associate who got fired. Maybe if Latham took preventative actions like this, I wouldn't be pounding the pavement sweating bullets as my severance runs dry.
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AWESOME
19 means that comment toward 11
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18
Can you imagine a fatass like Newt Gingrich or Rush Limbaugh trying to fit in a Coyote X? They'd wedge themselves in permanently.
Wait. How is cutting staff allowing the firm to provide cost-effective solutions when billing rates are not changing? In fact, cutting staff means more associates doing marginal staff work because there is no time to get required preapprovals for staffing and OT for a closing or a production. In increases bills. Cost-effective for the client might mean lower rates per hour or per project. Which would require lower compensation for fee-earners, of whom you would need more, because I'm not billing 200s for several straight months for 100K.
In this economy, don't kill yourself to bill 2400 plus because you won't see the fruits of your hard work. Instead, all the money will be diverted to PPP.
Agree with 24. Clients should be concerned about Weil's faulty "analysis" of the situation.
The ship be sinking...
23:
True story:
They changed the Coyote X in the second and third seasons because Brian Keith, who played Hardcastle, had trouble getting in and out of the original.
Yes, the ship be sinking, but how far can it sink?
I am gonna whack off to this post all weekend!
28
The amount of knowledge you have about an obscure TV show is frightening.
What can I say? Firm's a TTT... Weil GoTTTshal
13,
I won't miss him or her, but i had the same thought. Intentionally using the firm name to get it out there on Google is a pretty serious admission. And any decent forensic spook could find him or her in a heartbeat by remotely checking a few computers. We do it all the time for employees suspected of stealing IP.
Wait. How is cutting staff allowing the firm to provide cost-effective solutions when billing rates are not changing? In fact, cutting staff means more associates doing marginal staff work because there is no time to get required preapprovals for staffing and OT for a closing or a production. In increases bills. Cost-effective for the client might mean lower rates per hour or per project. Which would require lower compensation for fee-earners, of whom you would need more, because I'm not billing 200s for several straight months for 100K.
"the fact that many peer law firms were forced to make similar moves is of little consolation"
Then why mention it? Douchebags.
7&8 doesn't know crap about economics.
Nice try, right winger.
"Nobody gets laid off on Saturday."
Elie, you're a racist.
Layoffs are coming soon to the DC and NY Weil offices. Count on it.
Weil is a cesspool of kissasses, scheisters, copy and paste posers, socially awkward tardbutts, and other rejects. The sooner its condemned to rubble the better.
38: How do you know? Work is really slow in the DC office.
please explain to me then, 36, how printing $2 trillion dollars and injecting it into the economy will NOT result in out-of-control inflation.
I assume that Weil is passing on the savings to their clients by an across the board lowering of rates....yeah right.......
40: Not really going to care if you understand or not, but "printing money" doesn't necessarily equal "out-of-control" inflation. Maybe get some economics education and come back later. Thanks.
poop
41, maybe you should read the NY Times instead of being a dittohead. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/29/opinion/29krugman.html?em
Elie, how is "administrative" defined @Weil? Most firms don't consider paralegals/secretaries to be admin., so could Weil actually be getting rid of middle management?
You all know as well as I do that the partners at Weil or almost any other large corporate law firm won't take $ 10 a year less even if it means saving the jobs of staff people who can't afford to lose them, who have probably been loyal and good workers for years even decades, and who can't afford to lose one paycheck. And in public they'll talk a good game . . .
45, instead of citing a liberal columnist at the NY Times, why don't you look at actual gold prices and the dramatically rising long-term Treasury bond yields.
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/28/inflation-fears-push-up-bond-yields/
45,
First of all, the NY Times is a propaganda machine. Second, that article makes absolutely no sense. It does not take a genius to realize that printing money and incurring deficits 5 times as large as Bush ever did will result in enormous inflation in the long run. Read Warren Buffet's letter to Berkshire Shareholders for 2008. Buffet, who by the way is a registered Democrat and supporter of Obama, makes it very clear that inflation is going to be a major problem. I'll take his word of the propaganda press NY Times any day of the week.
Seems pretty ambiguous, 48, given the brisk sale of 5 year notes and the U.S.'s continued AAA rating. Nice use of the word "dramatically" there, too. Go hit some economics books, junior.
Listen, 49, if you don't want to take the time to understand the issues here then remove yourself from the table. This has happened before and--guess what?--inflation hasn't necessarily been a problem. Instead of chirping GOP talking points, son, educate yourself on the finer issues going on here.
50, the 5 year note is not a long-term note. The AAA rating is irrelevant as to whether the market expects inflation. Are you reading the right economics books?
The yield on the 30 year note went from 2.78% to 4.5%. In case you're economically illiterate, that's huge.
Just because they are GOP talking points does not mean that they are without merit. As I said, Warren Buffet, the greatest economic genius of our time, and a registered Democrat, believes inflation will be a major problem as a result of the current fiscal and monetary policy.
Republicans - willing to take the opinion of Rush Limbaugh over the analysis of Nobel Prize winning Economist Paul Krugman.
Facts are inconvenient little things. If you and the rest of the Grand OLD Party keep true to your extreme conservative roots, why, I bet you'll have the Republican party polling all the way at 28% favorables up from the current 21%!
You can do it! Keep the (blind, unreasoning) faith!
Since when did Warren Buffet equal Rush Limbaugh?
52, wow, there really are a lot of mistakes there. Thanks for trying, though! Have a great weekend!
53,
Show me where Buffet said bread would cost $500.
54, no we're willing to take the reality that long-term treasury yields have almost doubled over the hypothetical musings of someone whose expertise is in trade patterns.
Or maybe reality has a well-known conservative bias.
Buffet's economic knowledge and skill destroys Paul Krugman. Impossible to argue otherwise.
51- Why don't you enlighten us on the finer points?
59,
Over the last year:
Warren Buffet - huge losses to his portfolio. Expresses serious doubts about the market's ability to police itself without government regulation.
Paul Krugman - wins the Nobel Prize for his economic analysis.
Gee, that was actually shockingly easy to do. Not that I doubt that most intellectual feats seem impossible to you...
Buffet never said bread would cost $500, you idiot. He said inflation will be a major problem because of current fiscal and monetary policy. Check out the 2008 letter to the shareholders.
62,
Totally agree. The person that claimed bread would cost $500 is a complete idiot.
It's funny how the only liberal responses are "you're wrong" and citing Paul "I love Enron" Krugman. Winning hearts and minds.
Krugman won his Nobel Prize for what he did 30 years ago, geniuses.
61,
Almost every investor on the planet took paper losses in the past year, but Berkshire is still one of the strongest, if not the strongest, out there. Your next point about government regulation is accurate, but has nothing to do with inflation. Sorry. Try again.
2008 shareholder letter stated there were risks of inflation, not that it "would" be a problem.
Buffet has also repeatedly stressed the dangers of not taking decisive government action to stimulate demand and drag us out of the Bush recession.
Stimulative spending. it is simple Keynesian economics (look it up).
When capacity outstrips demand, you need stimulative spending or you have economic contraction. Please come back after you've completed your high school education. No one wants to waste their time educating your dumb ass because this is really basic stuff.
63,
It's called hyperbole you F***ing moron.
65 - why sorry? You said it was impossible to argue Krugman trumps Buffet.
I did so easily.
Your response in 65 is that Buffet did as poorly as every other investor (see how that undercuts your claim about his knowledge/skill? Basic logic at work, try and keep up).
You had no counter as to Mr. Krugman being honored with a Nobel Prize for his economic analysis.
Thus, your response served only to strengthen my argument by pointing out how Buffet has failed to distinguish himself from other investors in this economic climate. Indicating that he has no greater understanding of this crisis.
You lose. (read it a couple times, think about it, maybe take a nap or ask a friend for help, then come back to me).
67,
Exactly. Your concerns and shrill chicken-little screaming is just a bunch of hyperbole.
I'm glad I could help you arrive at this moment of realization.
Your welcome.
ON-TOPIC REPEAT OF #46 FOR ELIE:
ELIE, HOW IS "ADMINISTRATIVE" DEFINED @WEIL? MOST BIGLAW FIRMS DON'T CONSIDER PARALEGALS/SECRETARIES TO BE "ADMINISTRATIVE". DID WEIL ACTUALLY DO THE RIGHT THING AND GET RID OF MIDDLE MANAGEMENT?
Yeah 66,
Paying off your favorite unions with trillions of taxpayer dollars is exactly what Keynes said. Wake up and realize what Obama is doing to this country before we become France...or worse.
71,
*Yawn*
Unions got trillions of dollars? Back to moronic hyperbole so soon?
That's ok, I guess it just got exhausting for you.
I'll just wait until you have something to say with a factual basis.
Hmmm... this could take a while...
hey retards, WHERE ARE THE HOT LAWYER CHICK LINKS? that will give you something better to whack it to, instead of your own witty comments
Incidentally, France provides better health care to its citizens than we do, yet the U.S. system costs two and a half times more per capita. Yeah, France sounds awful.
Of course, the french health care system is the most expensive around, so look on the bright side, our public plan could be even cheaper than theirs.
73 = 71 desperately trying to change the subject because getting his ass kicked on basic economics.
Sad, really.
Sorry, Unions only got hundreds of billions, that makes it ok. Keep avoiding the merits, and that anyone with a high school education knows that printing money causes inflation. Keep spouting the propaganda. Change. Yes we can. ...blah blah, this country is going to hell under Obama.
20 is a victim and was in no way responsible for being terminated.
76,
Unions got hundreds of billions? Riding that moronic hyperbole for all it's worth, eh?
No response to the fact that you yourself said how Warren Buffet hasn't distinguished himself from other investors in this crisis?
You start by saying the Krugman v. Buffet argument is impossible. I make the argument easily. Your response actually further strengthens my argument.
You either won't respond to or don't understand my point about Keynesian economics. And now you're throwing out made up numbers of paybacks to unions that you have no support for.
Here's the threads yet to receive responses:
1) how bad you got your ass kicked on the Krugman v. Buffet argument
2) How bad you got your ass kicked on the basic point that stimulative spending is the response when capacity outstrips demand
3) then we can discuss the trillions and/or hundreds of billions in "pay offs" to unions (that you claim in 76 is not hyperbole).
Start with (1) and work your way down.
did someone change the subject from staff layoffs to an economic debate? is this a PR distraction on behalf of Weil?
did someone change the subject from staff layoffs to an economic debate? is this a PR distraction on behalf of Weil?
Further point on stimulative spending - after WWII the U.S. had debt equal to 120% of GDP, and it was the beginning of the biggest period of economic growth and prosperity in our history.
Currently, U.S. public debt is less than 40% of GDP. If we look at gross debt (not that you'd know this, but this figure includes funds held by the U.S. gov't such as social security), then it is at less than 80%.
Japan did not climb out of its "lost decade" until it undertook serious stimulative spending that ultimately pushed their debt to above 100% of GDP.
Based on comment 76, looks like the crybaby has no answers and decided to run home!
After an ass whooping like that, I'm not surprised.
Someone else please explain to this moron why our current fiscal and monetary policy are going to lead to massive inflation...it's friday night and I have things to do. BTW, 82, you have done nothing other than quote an article from the marxist NY Times...
Hahaha, oh he would have won all of the points he can't even respond to, he just has stuff to do (hahaha). Seriously, lamest/weakest face saving attempt ever.
Faaaacism! (very scary)
I'm afraid I'm out of here for the evening too, so until next time. Asshat.
Edit to comment 84 - ooops, I meant to say
Maaaarxism! (very scary)
It's hard to keep up with which random 1950's red scare insult is the current favorite.
Anyway, have a good weekend all. And don't forget to do the charitable thing and try and help a dittohead pull their head out of their ass.
I was a paralegal at Weil from 1992-1995 and can say that I nailed 11 chics at that place, most of them at least 5 times. Other than that it was just another lawfirm. Good luck to all.
This thread is boring. No one has any inside info on Weil. I can read pontifications on politics and economics anywhere.
Anyone have any good Weil info?
"the fact that many peer law firms were forced to make similar moves is of little consolation"
How gratuitous can a statement be? Did anyone expect there to be consolation - If there was any consolation whatsover, then you're a big asshole. No - it was just a way of saying - "BTW - others are doing it - so don't blame us for being a follower." But you can't say that, else it shows that you're a follower.
87, can you say "i want to keep my job"?
Weil let 20 NY staffers go in January, so this is their second round. But what are the "administrative positions"?
here's something you can do to help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t2eqNzrnQ
pass the message on so others will know.
you know what's SUPER FUN about being at a firm that has laid off a whole bunch of admin folks? being in the admin pool and still BEING at the firm. All the extra work is AWESOME!! Keep it coming, I'll keep working harder and faster, baby! AW YEAH!
king and spalding is a shit hole
King & Spalding Socked with $90k Discovery Sanction
This is one of those "think before you leap" lessons. Lawyer A says Lawyer B had obstructed discovery and misrepresented facts to the court. Judge says he's going to figure out who's telling the truth. He did so. Essentially, the court lambasted K&S's counsel for accusing Duane Morris's counsel of being uncooperative in discovery. The order in the patent infringement suit of CBT Flint Partners v. Return Path, No. 1:07-CV-1822 (N.D. Ga. Aug. 2008) is here:
http://www.dailyreportonline.com/Editorial/PDF/PDF%20Archive/Cisco-order2-081908.pdf
and the an article about it, is here:
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202423885428
Based upon my experience there, this is how they operate all of the time in all offices and in all practice areas - a cut throat, unprofessional, and, often, unethical law firm
OK 78, here goes,
1.) Paul Krugman is an ivory tower liberal economist who has done zero work in the private sector. Talk to me when he has taken a withering textile manufacturer and turned it into the most successful conglomerate in the world, and number 12 on the fortune 500 list. Also, Buffet is among the most wealthy people in the world, and although Berkshire's market value has decreased in the past year, it is stronger than ever, and will come back even stronger. You lose on the Krugman v. Buffet argument. Big time. Also, Buffet is not biased, unlike Krugman, who is an unabashed liberal. I'd like to see whether Krugman's portfolio took some hits last year.
2.) You are correct on this point. Stimulative spending is necessary to increase aggregate demand during times of economic downturn. And some degree of deficit spending is inevitable, and probably beneficial. But, a $2 trillion deficit this year, financed by money that the federal reserve has printed, will lead to massive inflation. Also, when this is combined with the massive trade deficit in the U.S., and rising energy prices (which will get much worse in the next few years, despite all of Obama's "green energy" initiatives), and we have a recipe for disaster. Bottom line, inflation will get out of control in the coming years, and this massive stimulous spending will make it much worse than it has to be. Particularly because less than 10% of it is actually going to infrastructure projects (which Keynes advocated). Which brings me to...
3.) Union payoffs are in the hundreds of billions under Obama. Check out the $100 billion we gave the automakers when everyone knew they would be in bankruptcy within a year...this was a union payoff, pure and simple--with my money. Other examples include the massive growth in public employees under Obama--hundreds of thousands of new government workers...all to benefit those big bloated, tax eating public employee unions. There, now I kicked your ass on all of the above arguments. Sorry I did not respond last night, but I had better things to do.
GM wil file on Monday am. Obam ahas press ocnfernce at 1100 am est. Followed by the President of GM with a press conference at Weil's office in NY.
Too bad the Weil admin staff weren't members of the UAW - they wouylkd still have jobs.
Change I can't believe in: USA on the road to economic ruination. On parle francais ici.
SOCIALISM YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
94--
True dat. I worked there a long time ago and, for the most part, I concur in your assessment. A terrible place to work.
Personally, I can't wait for this country to turn into France, so that finally we can have some decent domestic wine and cheese produced.
#100 - Bitches
Why isn't there any serious discussion about this country turning Into Italy? Why is it always about France? Personally, I prefer Italian clothes, cars, women and cheese over their French counterparts (though I'd take a wine from Bordeaux over a wine from Piedmont any day).
United States of Italy - that's change I can believe in!
Well, if Weil is letting folks go, what the hell can the rest of us expect? They have Lehman, General Growth Properties and--the motherload--General Motors. If this firm cannot keep its people busy, then things are looking shittier in the legal market than previously suspected.
Staff included secretaries and paralegals. Here is what was said in small break out meetings during the afternoon.
1) 36% of all Weil attorneys throughout the U.S. offices are working on bankruptcy right now.
2) 4 out of 5 of Weil's top clients are restructuring right now and thus they are not sure how much business they will be getting from those 4 clients in the future.
3) GM- Well, bankruptcy fees are not automatic. You have to submit the bills and wait for them to be approved.
That's about it.
People, Weil had a round of attorney layoffs back in January, at least in the New York office. They probably got rid of about 30-35 junior and midlevel associates. They where super-stealthy, to be sure, but they happened. I know, because I was one of the laidoff. So, my former colleagues at WGM, when Barry Wolf and Tom Roberts and Steve Danhauser get up and promise that Weil is a family, and that the people make the firm, and that they will not do attorney layoffs, and they will take care of their own, they are fucking lairs.
That is all.
104--
I am not at Weil--wish I was--but I would like to give you some advice. Take it for what it's worth: If you're going to call somebody out as a "liar," try not to spell it as "lair." If you're response is that you're posting on a blog, that is not an excuse. You leave yourself open to the Weil trolls who are, no doubt, monitoring this site for a swift and decisive response.
104: Please explain super-stealthy. I'd like some points as my firm just implemented cost-cutting measures which will of course develop into layoffs at some point.
#104, I didn't know about the attorney layoffs in January. I was one of the downsized staffers in the Jan. 9th layoff. I'd figured they did some stealth layoffs during 2008, since so many attorneys left. In fact, a lot of staffers on 2nd shift left in 2008, so I don't know why they had to make further cuts. One of the word processing operators suddenly passed away on October 1st, just weeks after another was fired for cause.
Well, all of the Weil folks who are working on bankruptcy, as well as those at firms across the country doing the same thing, means that in a year or two, there will be a glut of attorneys on the market who will have bankruptcy experience on their respective resumes. If you're thinking long-term strategies, corporate or finance may not be a bad way to go to buck the trend.
My firm had its staff layoffs (and stealth attorney layoffs to the tune of about 7 a week). Attorneys leaving the firm "to pursue other opportunities." Zero overtime or comp time permitted for the remaining staff with increased workload. End result? Clients paying $300/hour attorney rates to have PDF documents created and have Bates labels applied. How is that holding down costs?. Support staff and clients both getting screwed and the firm just getting richer. Associates, on the bright side, are getting plenty of billable hours (but how many of those billable hours require a law degree)? Perhaps, at best, it serves as a good humbling experience for Associates.
LOL @ 105 calling out 104's obvious typo with this gem: "you're response".... a much more egregious 3rd grade English error to be sure. 105, you sir are an asshat. If YOUR response is that this is just a blog, YOU'RE still an asshat.
109, That is the model. Push work to billers. Take work away from cost centers.
109, That is the model. Push work to billers. Take work away from cost centers.
Clients don't pay for Bates labeling. What are the associates calling what they are doing - Prepare client documents to be produced? In that case, the firm makes money.
Or, you know, you can outsource Bates labeling for cheap and the client pays for that expense.
But paying a $25/hour secretary to Bates label? How does the firm make money on that?
105 - this is 104, good point on the spelling. But trust me when I tell you that you do wish you were at Weil. I've lost 20 pounds, sleep soundly through the night, and other than the lack of paycheck, its the best thing that ever happened to me.
106- the signs are, in retrospect, obvious. First they get rid of the tech budget, then they get rid of the mentoring budget, then they fire staff, and then attorneys.
107- it was at the end of January. I was out of the office Friday evening when that email went out. Since it was encrypted, I had to find someone still at the office to read it to me. However, it did serve their purposes, in that it didnt make it to ATL.
I'm sorry that you were one of the ones let go...
curious to know how many staffers were let go in each of Weil's offices...
Well, well, news of the layoffs seems greatly underestimated. I was one of the laid of staff members and there were definitely more than 79. I was there for a long time (over a decade) and I was told my position was eliminated and shown the door without even a chance to say goodbye to anybody. They want to keep everything hush, hush, as if we can't talk to our former coworkers! I wasn't even allowed to take all of my personal belongings. At least the associates who were laid off were allowed time to pack up and say goodbye. There is no loyalty in American business anymore. When I think of all of the job offers I turned down while working at Weil, it makes me sick. I regret every hour that I worked for free, every vacation day that I came in to solve a problem and all the other free work that I did for the firm over the years. The severance was lump sum and taxed at 50-60% so it was a joke. I will survive because I live simply and have no debt, but I am left with a bitter taste in my mouth. I am still searching for another position 2 months later.