To the Sonnenschein summers: Go say hi to the Thacher Proffitt people. They are honorable men.

Welcome to the Machine. Suckers.

Hi summers. Advice for most of you - don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. To you lucky few who will survive the summer with offer in hand - enjoy it while it lasts. Deferral season starts in September.

This would never happen at Locke Lord Dallas.

Why can't we post comments on the Morning Docket? I have a number of things to say about Eliza's writing.

Holy shit. Summer Associates are starting and I'm still unemployed. Unbelievable.

Hey Latham summers, Dave Gordon and Bob Dell are going to give you repeated assurances about how the firm is going to honor its obligations to you. They told the class of 08 the same thing before firing the majority of 1st years in the NY office, and a third of the 1st years in LA. Don't believe anything these worthless pos say.

Incoming Summers: Be prepared to work your tails off. Our MidLaw firm only hired half of your kind last year. Among those that did get offers at the end of the summer were the ones who arrived early, stayed late, and always asked for work/assignments from the more "difficult" partners to deal with. Just some helpful advice.

Good Luck.

Summer Associates: so you thought law school was cut throat? Now you enter the summer knowing that you may be on the chopping block, and the only thing that stands in your way - is the girl next to you.

This is how offers will be given:

1) School Prestige: T3s forget it.
2) Looks: If you are overweight, unattractive- forget it
3) Finance or Science education: if you are a English major forget it.

Happy Monday everybody.

YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS

Skadden Secure

I hear a group of laid off latham first years are planning to kill self at offices around the country during the summer program.

Hey Latham summers, try not to get any blood on your brooks brothers no iron shirts. You're not going to have much money to buy new clothes after getting laid off as first years.

As a leader in the legal world, I have always pushed for expenses and entertainment budgets to be very low (except for us partners of course). We are proud to have been at the forefront of this trend for the past 10 years. Additionally, we have a large group of summer associates this year, all who are putting in extensive work on many of the matters left behind by former associates who were given the exciting opportunity to pursue a different career.

All of our 33 Summer Associates have worked 50+ hours the past two weeks, and will for the remainder of the summer. Additionally we will continue our long standing trend of offering the top 2 associates an opportunity to join our "Work-Toward-Associate" program in which they are given an opportunity to work a 6 month unpaid internship, at the end of which, if we their work is of the highest level, they will be offered partial employment.

We are very proud of the programs we have as they not only work to develop ones legal skills, but also character, work-etic, and team building:)

Summer 2009 will be on record as the worst summer associate season ever. Little work, few events, cold treatment from associates and partners, and 50% (or less) offers.

Sucks to be the Class of 2010.

Happy 1L thanks ATL.

I once knew an unattractive olderfemale law student from California who thought she would be competing for a summer job this summer.

Now she is working on campus for summer, as a RA, and i will be collecting a fat check each week. Honey- you may be skinny- but your attitude and face will make you unhirable.

I'd like to say a hearty "welcome" to all of the Schiff Hardin summers joining the stealth layoffs of massive numbers of Schiff associates in progress.

If you want to understand this profession i'd suggest renting Shawshank Redemption and fastforwarding to the part when Freeman expalins the concept of being "Institutionalized". Good luck.

Right, 9, because having a science education is totally more valuable for non-IP work and a finance education is totally more valuable than litigation (the only major practice area with work) than being able to write clearly and concisely (skills an English major would likely have).

There's no way I'm going to survive until the Latham 09 people start. This is way too depressing. I want in on that laid off latham 1st year suicide club.

-suicidal laid off still unemployed latham first year

THANKS ABA FOR OPENING MORE AND MORE LAW SCHOOLS AND FLOODING THE MARKET WITH LAWYERS!!

Dave Gordon is a fine manager I tell you, the finest Syracuse Law School has to offer. Only 45% of Latham NY Associates laid off under his watch, and per Dave Gordon, the NY office is well diversified.

Summers need to find a guardian -- and quickly. I suspect that at many law firms only 50% or so of summers will receive a full-time offer of employment at the end of the summer. Additionally, it will be hard for summers to prove themselves as not much work will flow down to them (many summers will be evaluated largely on the basis of pro bono assignments). If I were a summer I would work hard to find one person with clout (just one partner or prominent of counsel) who could potentially be vocal on my behalf and could argue that I should be in the 50% of summers that receive a full-time offer. Summers who find themselves without such a guardian may be SOL at the end of the summer.

Where to find a guardian? Look first to (a) the partners who interviewed you (they must have liked you since you got an offer); (b) partners who attended your undergrad and/or law school; (c) partners in the practice group you want to work in; (d) partners who praise the work you do for them over the summer. That failing, look to prominent of counsel attorneys or even senior associates who appear to be in good standing (it is not hard to determine who these attorneys are) as potential supporters. It may sound lame, but treat this summer as a political campaign (you are campaigning for an offer, along with the other summers, and "the voters" may only select 50% of the candidates).

Good luck to all. Work hard and don't be complacent and don't say or do anything stupid.

#18 "being able to write clearly and concisely" is not an issue at T14 schools. Maybe if you go to a T4 Toilet like Suffolk or Touro- then you have an argument.

Don't sweat it, 20. Rumor has it that individual state bar examination boards (NY, CA, TX, NJ, MA, a few others) are taking corrective action to stem the glut of lawyers. Supposedly they are vastly increasing the difficulty of their bar exams, seeking to achieve a sub-50% passage rate.

Sucks to class of 2009.

#21: Syracuse is a fine school. That is if you are overweight and HAVE to work for the federal government.

18, obviously you have never met an English major. They are teh retarded.

SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY

GUNNER DEATH MATCH - THREE ENTER, ONLY ONE WILL RECEIVE AN OFFER. AND YOU THOUGHT LAW REVIEW TRYOUTS WERE BAD! HO HO HO!

SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAAAAAY!

18:
People who couldn't get into the hard sciences or didn't even think they should bother trying are at a clear disadvantage when it comes to intelligence and the logic required to understand the law.

As for concise writing, those of us in the hard sciences learn how to write much more concisely than the long-winded blowhard English majors.

26: That was a clear and concise assessment.

If you are a Summer Associate at Thompson Hine, then prepare to watch fat, incompetent partners continue to run a business into the ground.

Marvel at not getting any work that matters and being forced to do secretarial work for associates because of the secretary firings.

Prepare to not get offers. Prepare to wish you had summered somehwere else.

Thompson Hine - working here compares somewhat favorably to prison (for now)!

On my first day, DAVE GORDON said the first years are the most vulnerable group at LATHAM, and that LATHAM would honor its commitments to us. Davey also said LATHAM is "WELL DIVERSIFIED."

Several months later, BAM, LATHAM fires the MAJORITY of NY FIRST YEARS.

PLUS, most of us the laid off first years are still UNEMPLOYED. No one at LATHAM gives about what happens to us.

Enjoy your collegial law firm.

28=simpleton idiot.

One of the "Building a Better Legal Profession" board members is starting at my firm today, and I look forward to hearing his or her assuredly well-informed views on how we should change our firm.

SMU is not TTT, #18.

Save those checks. They'll help with 3L tuition or your living expenses when you don't get an offer and have to search for five months after graduation.

And yes, that means don't assume you will get an offer. They aren't inclined to give offers to protect reputation this year. They always have the economy to blame now.

That also means that any summer BS - alcohol problem, laziness, attempting to mate - probably has less than zero tolerence. They'll almost be looking to manufacture reasons to say someone wasn't considered for an offer to raise the %.

2Ls...we are screwed. We are SCREWED!!

LATHAM is a collegial, well diversified law firm you fucks.

Sincerely,

Bob Dell and Dave Gordon

28, your final sentence is not concise.

GIven that I have $250,000 in student debt and no job, I would rather fire a lasgun at a Holtzman shield instead of being a summer associate in 2009.

Inside scoop. There will be a massive Skadden Layoff for first years.

One way to liven things up, the firms should run their summer program Survivor style. Challenges, immunity and one voted out of the program each week. The last one left get the only real offer that is going to be made.

I feel bad for fat or ugly summer associates. Goodbye Law Review prestige and hello "staff attorney"

To all summer associates, I have one question:
What's astroglide trading at?

Enjoy.

Summers: Everyone is going to look you in the eye and lie to your face.

Sure, you think you have a good BS detector and the people who interviewed you would never lie to you -- but come on, this is the adult world, and the partners and associates are not your pals. Many, if not most, firms have pre-summer meetings where everyone can get on the same page and be ready to answer questions in the way the firm would like. And those are the answers people are going to give; not the truth, just the party line. So take it all with a grain (our entire mouthful) of salt.

Summer Associates: so you thought law school was cut throat? Now you enter the summer knowing that you may be on the chopping block, and the only thing that stands in your way - is the girl next to you.

This is how offers will be given:

1) School Prestige: T3s forget it.
2) Looks: If you are overweight, unattractive- forget it
3) Finance or Science education: if you are a English major forget it.

@40, no there won't. Go back to KS, you swine flu spreading parasite.

N. Wacker Stud

I once knew an unattractive olderfemale law student from California who thought she would be competing for a summer job this summer.

Now she is working on campus for summer, as a RA, and i will be collecting a fat check each week. Honey- you may be skinny- but your attitude and face will make you unhirable.

28: A more concise version of your last sentence:

"Students of the hard sciences write more concisely than long-winded English majors."

- English major

43-9 bid

there is a shortage

I am a senior associate who is on the recruitment committee at a Biglaw firm and who also has given substantive assignments to prior summers. I do not have work to give out this summer, and if any work comes my way I have no choice but to keep it for myself for job security reasons. I am sure there are thousands more associates just like me.

If I were a summer, I would take every memo, pro bono project, etc. that came my way and do it like it were the thesis blocking me from graduation. Work with as many people as possible, get as many good reviews as possible in the file, and maybe it will be ok, but no guarantees. The summers I worked with last year were pretty bad - lack of enthusiasm, shoddy work, etc. only a few standouts. Then they were shocked when 50% of them didn't get offers.

I am a senior associate who is on the recruitment committee at a Biglaw firm and who also has given substantive assignments to prior summers. I do not have work to give out this summer, and if any work comes my way I have no choice but to keep it for myself for job security reasons. I am sure there are thousands more associates just like me.

If I were a summer, I would take every memo, pro bono project, etc. that came my way and do it like it were the thesis blocking me from graduation. Work with as many people as possible, get as many good reviews as possible in the file, and maybe it will be ok, but no guarantees. The summers I worked with last year were pretty bad - lack of enthusiasm, shoddy work, etc. only a few standouts. Then they were shocked when 50% of them didn't get offers.

44 is spot on. People are straight up told to lie to you about the firm.

Nearly every single person you deal with will throw you under the bus if necessary and will not bother wasting their limited capital in trying to get you a job. Especially when that partner or of counsel is trying to protect that 5th year who actually knows what she's doing.

Was Syracuse the best law school Dave Gordon could get into? Why the fuck did they put him in charge of LATHAM New York?

#53: Syracuse WAS ranked in the top 50s in the 1970s-1980s. Now it is a TTT because they let in NJ white trash and ugly and heavy girls who can't get employed.

I am a senior associate active in recruitment and also a mentor to summers. Here's my advice: if you are a finance or science major, forget it. Swallow a frisbee and get out of my firm. You are an idiot. Your writing is neither clear nor concise. If you majored in finance, you also are a huge bud lite-swilling d-bag and probably suck at beer pong, though you will protest to the contrary.

Pounding me secretary in her ass on a Monday!

#53. Syracuse is the Yale of TTT.

Thompson Hine partners will lie to you and tell you not to worry, that they only bring on as many SAs as they intend to make offers to.

Don't believe it. Stealth layoffs of associates are ongoing. Many SAs will be no-offered.

Save your money as much as possible.

SMU is the Yale of East Texas, bitches!

12 = PE

23, I think you overestimate the writing skills of T14 students. They were good at the LSAT, not necessarily good at writing. I've seen the work product,. While there may be some correlation between a good school and good writing, it is not particularly strong (especially for the lower end of the T14).

Tips for surviving at Latham

1) be a hot female
2) flirt with the partners
3) give it up to one of these fugly losers

Jimmy Carter just died.

Which is worse- get a no-offer from Biglaw or working as an RA this summer?

What happens to the ugly and fat law students?

RA is probably worse. But stuff like clinics is probably better. You'll actually learn something that shows you can work with clients, as opposed to sitting around an office doing nothing for 3 months and then not getting a job.

"Summer associate" isn't a great resume line in the first place.

Please report to have your heart plug inserted if you have not already done so.

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In my experience, those that croon about science vs. liberal arts majors betray their own lack of pedigree--these debates only go on at lower-tier, public undergraduate schools as the debate simply does not exist in top tier undergrads.

Venable layofffs.

Latham NY summers: welcome to your "collegial, well diversified" hell

Skadden Layoffs

Summer associates should well lube all orifices below the waist, because the only way you're going to get an offer is take it as often as possible from any and all partners who might be interested. Happy pumping.

All I can say is that it's going to be a very uncomfortable summer for most Summer Associates. Given the number of layoffs, freezes, and salary cuts in the last few months, associates are likely to hide in their offices to squeeze every last ounce of billable hour from the workday, because staying above the billable hour threshold looks to be the only way to save our jobs. There's no way at this point that I'd give a single 0.1 hour assignment to a summer associate when I desperately need to hoard that time for myself.

So that's the climate. No socializing because the class size is being cut dramatically, the budget is nearly non-existent, and the associates will be too busy trying to stay afloat to offer anything in the way of "mentoring" or even conversation. No interesting work, because demand is down and we'll be too busy fighting each other for the remaining assignments. And who knows at this point if any firm will have the wherewithal to make an offer to *anyone* at the end of the summer. So have fun.

-- A shell-shocked first-year at a Vault Top 50 firm

I went to W&M. Can I get a job in Chicago?

"28: A more concise version of your last sentence:

"Students of the hard sciences write more concisely than long-winded English majors."

- English major"

A more concise version of your sentence:

"Hard science majors write more concisely than long-winded English majors."

- psych major

Any info on Jones Day

Dear SAs,

Whether you realize it or not, this summer will be Darwinian. Take *nothing* at face value. Seek work. Face time counts. Do *not* get drunk at firm events. No matter how "buddy-buddy" partners, associates or even your fellow summer associates appear, they are all competing for limited work, and you are not at the firm to make friends. Don't be a prick, but also remember that there is a finite amount of work to be had, and that you better prove that you are worthy to get some of it. Despite what happened in prior years, this is not summer camp anymore.

RA was never a good resume line in the first place. It means "didn't do anything."

By the time you finished with 2L, if your academic research is worth anything, YOU should be writing articles if you want to impress someone with non-job "research."

This is the most depressing post ever.

So are Latham partners explicitly trading job security for sexual favors now, or is it still a covert yet open secret?

Ladies, get that shit in writing if at all possible.

Are all of your firms really circling the drain that closely? My firm has had no layoffs, salary cuts or freezes, and is hiring a full summer class with no substantial cuts to the program. Moreover, most junior associates have enough work to bill 2000, and some of us are quite overworked. I can't imagine working at a place where the competiton has gotten so vicious.

Come on. A well managed and relatively healthy firm will not cut offers to 2L simply because of the 2009 recession. These 2Ls will enter the workforce in late 2010-possibly 2011 if firms choose to defer (which they might). Seems to me that the ones under pressure are the class of 2009.

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No. If you wanted to work in Chicago, you would have gone to law school in Chicago.

Have fun at Ye olde Law Firm in Williamsburg.

28 / English Major / Psych Major,

Even more concise:

"Science write good, wordy bad."

1. be friendly to everyone; don't act nice to the attorneys and like a jerk to the staff. it's not a secret.

2. don't talk down other firms and/or law schools.

3. don't get into fights with the other team during softball games. don't yell at your teammates during the game. no one is impressed by your hyper-competitiveness.

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More concise

Nerds not wordy.

Hi! Summer Associate checking in here, are 2 hour free-lunches standard at every firm this year? My firm has too many SA events! I don't know if I can keep up with the schedule...

Hi! Summer Associate checking in here, are 2 hour free-lunches standard at every firm this year? My firm has too many SA events! I don't know if I can keep up with the schedule...

That is a depressing article to link to on these kids' first day.

"Not a good time to be coming out of law school, is it?

It’s not. But it’s really not a good time to be a 2L. They’re going to get hit the worst, I think. "

Rank in order of non offers;

1) Heavy girls
2) Fat Guys
3) Ugly Girls
4) Heavy Girls/Guys from TTT
5) Ugly Girls from TTT
6) Law review at TTT + Small Ivy
7) Law review at TTT + IVY

Which is worse

RA for summer or a Department of defense legal staff internship?

My advice, make sure you befriend PARTNERS, not just associates. Although the associates may be cool to hang with, only the partners have any real power or say in this world you are aspiring to enter

advice for summers: stop reading ATL. they'll know how much you are browsing and you want that number to be zero.

www.philalawyer.net has an **excellent** mock commencement speech that should be made mandatory reading for first year associates and SAs alike.

check it out - you won't be disappointed.

Dear Summers:

You may see the term "ass lobster" over the course of you summer. You will not be told what this term means. The only hint we can give you is that the term was first used to describe something associated with Kash.

Yours truly,
The Law Firm Community

Don't go to SMU.

28: Are you aware that Richard Posner was an English major?

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You're wrong! Fat guys always get offers because the firm knows they have no life and will stay in the office all weekend.

98: Are you aware that Richard Posner can be a little wordy sometimes?

The guy writes a new book every other month, for crying out loud!

mid-law recruting coordinator here - we made 100% offers each of the last three years (even last year, when we had a strong class). we haven't had to defer anyone yet, but this summer, we're likely looking at only 40-60% offers, depending on performance. maybe the possibility of a deferred offer (start in 2011) for those we want to keep but feel like we can't in good faith commit a spot to. definitely will be an interesting summer.

What does the turbo button do on my desktop pc? I am afraid to press it.

Shame on you ATL. You might have mentioned to the dear little baby summers that if they think writing in to "tips@abovethelaw.com" is going to be "anonymous" they better do it from their HOME computer and from an anonymous gmail account.

Summers, your email traffic is monitored by your firm. Any and all emails containing an @abovethelaw.com address will probably go through, but they will also be flagged and read by someone in the firm's media department. If you have actually "scooped" something for ATL that is embarrassing to the firm, you will (if lucky) get a not-so-friendly chat from one of the recruiting people, or (likely) simply get no-offered at the end of the year.

And if you scoop the firm on something that is REALLY embarrassing or negative, you'd better not have done so in a way that allows you to be identified by circumstantial evidence. Summer Witch hunts are a deeply rooted part of the SA lifestyle.

Oh, and your internet usage time is also logged. Just thought you might want to keep that in mind. Firms are begging for excuses to no-offer you this year. If you give them one, they will take it.

69- More info?

This is crap. At large vault firms that reduced their summer classes in size, I don't see them deviating from their historical offer rates. Especially considering these kids won't start working until fall 2010/winter 2011. If anything, they're just recruit even smaller classes this summer/fall for next years summer groups. But, vault firms that have much larger classes (Proskauer, etc), I don't know what they'll do though..

He is the Asslobster King of Chicago.

If I hire a science major expecting strong legal reasoning and clear and concise drafting, do I have I promissory estoppel claim under Restatement (Second) Section 90 when he can't write worth a damn because he's a friggin science geek?

63 -- Fucking finally! I knew the world suddenly felt like a better place, but I didn't know why . . .

107, no because comment d specifically denies a reliance claim under those facts...please check your statute supplement before you post.

@ 107: yes, and well played.

PromASSory
EstopeLOBSTER

When I get nervous I repeatedly punch myself in the balls until I vomit, then I feel better.

Summers - 99% of these posts are written by yourown of lawstudents who didn't get a summer job obviously. This is obvious by the 20 arguments over science v. liberal arts posts on this site. Hear you go: 99% of the people you work with do not know or care about your undergrad major unless you're doing patent work and need the hard science background. You learn legal writing in lawschool, not writing a paper on the foreshadowing in some book you read that was written 200 years ago.

I'm new here. Please answer the following:

1) what is an ass lobster?

2) what's the deal with all the references to promissory estoppel? and

3) does anyone have a connection at the ABA that would be open to considering withdrawing accreditation for all T3 and T4 schools. Heck, T2 for that matter. 50 law schools is plenty. No one will miss U. Florida.

I went to Stetson and now have my very own asslobster shop that turns a tidy profit.

Suck me, beautiful

114 here. One more:

4) is Kashmir single (or in an unhappy relationship with a douchbag)? anyone have her phone number? Is she into guys who quit biglaw after 3 years and started their own firm making 2x the money and working 3/4 of the hours?

Dear 114,

Check the ATL archives for answers to (1) & (2). You have plenty of time since there is no work for SA's to be doing.

As for (3), if somebody can answer that, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Is Stetson a real place? I have heard of it but I always thought it was one of those made-up places, like London. We always used to make fun of crappy lawyers by saying "he probably went to Stetson."

Now that I know it actually exists I feel awful!

An ass lobster is a distant relative of the Glass Cock, 114.

18: Science majors have a definite advantage over your typical "generic" college grad with a degree in English, communications (wtf is that anyway?), political "science", etc. Science majors learn deductive reasoning from day one as an undergrad, which goes beyond mere "good writing". Law school was a complete joke for we science majors, who sat there bored while professors tried to teach basic comprehension and reasoning skills to our classmates with their touchy-feely degrees.

Oh, and btw, 32 is an English major. My condolences.

@114

RE: #3

I'm somebody with a "connection" at the ABA. They will not reduce the amount of law schools just so you can have an easier time getting a job. I'm sorry life isn't working out the way you planned.

"Heart"

-Guest

note to summers and 1st years, looks count. Get your suits at Riflessi on 57th and 6th. Italian brands, nice prices, slim cuts and free sewing. they did right by me

121 - I don't need a job, I own my own firm after I left biglaw. T1, law review, and well connected, I get at least one call a week from other firms wanting to buy me out.

However, I get a LOT of resumes from a lot of crappy schools out there, indicating there are way too many "lawyers." I'm not about to hire someone from one of those schools when there are T1 lawyers looking for a job as well.

It belittles the profession.

105 - part of the economic contraction we are seeing is *permanent.* 2011, 2012, 2013 et seq will not be like 2005, 2006, or 2007.

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You altered the meaning of the sentence. Those noun phrase subjects are similar, but not identical--and your edit loses some precision and meaning.

-Former English Teacher

"Law school was a complete joke for we [sic] science majors, who sat there bored while professors tried to teach basic comprehension and reasoning skills to our classmates with their touchy-feely degrees."

"98: Are you aware that Richard Posner can be a little wordy sometimes?

The guy writes a new book every other month, for crying out loud!"

I love it. One of our most brilliant legal thinkers is deemed "wordy" merely for being prolific.

100: Good point. The English major Richard Posner is a wordy dullard and a terrible legal thinker. I'm sure that you, as a science major, are making much more significant contributions to the legal profession at your three attorney intellectual property firm. Further, I'm sure that your legal writing is more concise and incisive than is Posner's.

I am a handsome, laid-off graduate of HYS..

Where is PE?

Get thyself a mentor, preferably someone with real juice at the firm. More valuable these days than performance.

@123 You belittle the profession.

I have high hopes for the drama content of SA season on ATL.

So many pathetic trolls here...spreading misery and gloom.

My advice to the summers (the best you'll get). Work hard, hunker down, and make friends. That's all you can do. And ABOVE ALL, don't read any of the comments on ATL. That's the best thing you can do for yourselves.

130, hopefully dead. I was busy at work all dead and haven't checked most of today's threads. But thankfully, he's seems to be absent lately.

Latham summers who are enjoying my office right now,

First, I do not have animosity against you since half of you will not start at Latham one way or ther other.

Second, a bit of advice. Do not do any work at all. People who do work at latham or even do good work are not respected. Only people respected are whose who talk about doing a lot of work and stay in their offices till late at night just clicking on the same document for hours. All you need to do is suck up a lot. Don't waste you time sucking up to Dave "my brother works at Cravath" Gordon. Suck up to Kirk Davenport/Jaffe, Jonathan Rod (totally crazy), James Kearney, Chadakoff (only likes girls or those from Harvard) and the recruiting department. That is the best chance of you getting an offer which you can later use to shop around for a real job. By the time you would start at Latham, it will be out of V50 and you will have many better choice. Believe me when I say that only douchebags are left at Latham and the Latham culture is completely gone. Latham is worse than skadden now - sorry to disappoint you harvard people.

The 90% cut prediction is for rising 2Ls you moron - note the reference to summers in 2010, not the class of 2010.

Your scare tactics are a joke. I had quail eggs with my salad today. Then, I followed up with filet mignon and dessert.

139 - That sounds like the food I feed my cat. And I was laid off.

137,

F me. I hadn't thought about that: One of those little shits is sitting at my desk, making $3,500/week for writing memos to file from 9:30 - 11:30 and 2:00 - 5:00 five days/week (when they're not overloaded with new-this-summer "training sessions" designed to distract from the lack of substantive work).

I hate this profession, at least (1) the way it was practiced at my former firm, and (2) BigLaw summer programs generally.

Every time I hear that someone's sibling, or a family friend, etc. is going to law school (especially a non-T20ish), I cringe. Five years ago, I was recommending it to everyone as an easy $125k for anyone who could score 166 on the LSAT and tie a tie.

you know who else went to Syracuse Law School and came within one ounce of being thrown out for plagiarizing his 1st year research memo?

that's right - Joe fucking Biden. damn you liberal smarter than everyone else fuckwads.

Syracuse Law if the Yale of third tier toilets